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[Jayla]

Have you locked your own romance? Because I don't think the banter between them will start before you romance someone else. I also wonder whether they will hook up before Halamshiral and Adamant, because I don't think I've ever had them romanced before those (bur prior to Arbor Wilds).

 

Anyway - you're going to have to start hearing Bull getting flirty with Dorian - especially the "I will conquer you" one ;P The 'romance' banter between them should start shortly after that one.

 

Cheers for the reply. ^^ I've done the balcony scene with Solas, but I guess it depends on when the game considers my romance with Solas "locked in" enough to safely allow the flirty banters between Dorian and Bull to start. Certain flirt options have been removed since balcony scene (IE, Harding and the option to seduce that woman in Josephine's personal quest), but some still crop up with party members (Bull after his personal quest) so... I guess I'll have to wait until after the breakup at latest?

 

I'll try again after the Winter Ball and Adamant as you say, so at least I can put Viv and Sera back on my team. (I'm trying to get both of their approval up for rings and cookies. It's hard work!)

[LilithMB]

I really want the inquisitor back. I like to start a new game with a new character usually. I didnt really get why so many people wanted the warden back. Beloved character yes. But if they had stopped teasing us about our warden in the next games then they could have rounded up the story in origins and the DLC quite nicely. But with inqy I really dont see anyone else in a better position/understanding/reason/passionwhether friended or not/interesting play off with solas as the inquisitor. They dont feel done at all. Starting with a blank slate with all thats going on feels like a waste of time if Im to be honest, when they could spend that time on beefing up the world/inqys personality/solas plans/seeing tevinter with new eyes instead of looking like a native without a clue. As much as I would love to play as a tevinter native it would make more sense to introduce us to that new world as a fish out of water. And we know inqy is full of questions.

The only reason I have doubts about inqy showing up in tevinter at all is best mage dorians romance ending....

He wont let you go with him. If the devs intended for inqy to go to tevinter next game they could have let you go with him right? In secret or whatever.  Im pretty sure dorian is going to be a main point of contact in DA4 (yuuussss )so this is what makes me think that the inquisitor wont feature to much in DA4 which is>>>?????????? after trespasser.. I understand the need for inqy to lay low, but if they magically turn up at the end of the game to see the solas decision through its going to feel a little contrived.

[Moirin]

hugs u and gives you some medicine maybe come back to the math when u feel better x)  get well soon

 

Thank you very much.

 

And all Hawke's are of the same age. So it doesn't matter.

 

I think, actually, as of World of Thedas 2 there is an "official age" for Hawke, to very close to one, and I went with that. I love Hawke and all but this is one of the reasons Hawke is my least favorite protagonist of the series, Hawke always felt to me more like BioWare's character than mine.

 

I have all 7 of my Warden's birth years written somewhere but I'm too lazy to look that up atm. I don't think I decided all of my Inquisitor's ages yet. Just Lavellan and her twin.

[Jayla]

There's definitely benefits of both, I like the way Origins did it the best. It set up your family and life, but that part was over so quickly that the specifics were up to your interpretation. Inquisition was too blank slate for me. I mean, I had no problem headcanoning family and friends, but I think it would of been way more impacting to have someone from your life show up.

 

It's going to be sad to let our Inquisitor's go, but in my opinion it makes the most sense for BioWare to have a whole new protagonist the next game. Just think about the romances there were 8 options in Inquisition, that's 8 different people that have to show up for some semblance of fairness if the Dorian and Solas romances will get to see their loves. Now say BioWare makes 4-6 new romance options, how many extra scenes do they now have to write and make unique and animate and voice over? And even if they decide not to add cameos for everyone's individual romance, how many people are going to stay with their loves and not experience a very fulfilling romance then? 

 

Sure, this could get people to make more characters, but there's only so many times an average fan will play through the game. I have Ithilia Lavellan for Solas, Maeve Trevlyan for I.B., Aurelie Trevelyan for Cullen, Gawaina Cadash for Blackwall, ect. ones I plan to make for the other romances before I'd finally being willing to make and play an Inquisitor that never romanced anyone in Inquisition and is now prepared to accept all the lovins in DA4.

 

This is one of the many issues having the Inquisitor as the protagonist in DA4 would have. 

 

I can see what you mean, but if the intention to carry the Inquisitor over as the new main protag. in DA4 holds true, then there's the implication that there may not be many new, if any, romances. Trespasser (which I realise not everyone will have played for X reason) seemed to show a lot of solidifying of relationships, or the option to anyway. I haven't experienced the romances personally but it seemed like there were a lot of marriage proposals, and even Solas' gets the choice to stick it out (in combination with choosing to redeem him, that's about as commit-y* as it gets).

 

I could see new romance options for those who either didn't romance anyone or want to start a new one.

 

Pretending that dual-protags. becomes a thing, would any of you take a chance to woo the Inquisitor with the new protag.? >:3 Lovely drama.

 

*Guess who's been watching Buffy?

[Elessara]

Cheers for the reply. ^^ I've done the balcony scene with Solas, but I guess it depends on when the game considers my romance with Solas "locked in" enough to safely allow the flirty banters between Dorian and Bull to start. Certain flirt options have been removed since balcony scene (IE, Harding and the option to seduce that woman in Josephine's personal quest), but some still crop up with party members (Bull after his personal quest) so... I guess I'll have to wait until after the breakup at latest?

 

I'll try again after the Winter Ball and Adamant as you say, so at least I can put Viv and Sera back on my team. (I'm trying to get both of their approval up for rings and cookies. It's hard work!)

 

You don't have to wait until after the breakup after the Arbor Wilds.  I know you can get it before that as I have one recent playthrough that has gone through Adamant but not Halamshiral and Bull has had the "I will conquer you" banter with Dorian.  This was after the balcony scene with Solas as well.  I think the balcony scene is like a mini-lock because I don't know that you can actually start a romance with someone else after that but don't quote me on that as I haven't tried.

[Eivuwan]

You know what would be a dumb, but possible plot line? Solas is half-way through with accomplishing his plans and BOOM, the Titans wake up and they are going to destroy modern Thedas AND the sleeping ancient elves. Now Solas and Lavellan will have to team up again to stop the Titans. Ancient elves get conveniently sacrificed in the meantime so modern Thedas is saved.

[Jayla]

-snip- I understand the need for inqy to lay low, but if they magically turn up at the end of the game to see the solas decision through its going to feel a little contrived.

 

^ This is why I think if the Inquisitor shows up in any capacity outside of being the main/dual protagonist, it'll be as a main adviser type NPC at least.

[midnight tea]

I really want the inquisitor back. I like to start a new game with a new character usually. I didnt really get why so many people wanted the warden back. Beloved character yes. But if they had stopped teasing us about our warden in the next games then they could have rounded up the story in origins and the DLC quite nicely. But with inqy I really dont see anyone else in a better position/understanding/reason/passionwhether friended or not/interesting play off with solas as the inquisitor. They dont feel done at all. Starting with a blank slate with all thats going on feels like a waste of time if Im to be honest, when they could spend that time on beefing up the world/inqys personality/solas plans/seeing tevinter with new eyes instead of looking like a native without a clue. As much as I would love to play as a tevinter native it would make more sense to introduce us to that new world as a fish out of water. And we know inqy is full of questions.

The only reason I have doubts about inqy showing up in tevinter at all is best mage dorians romance ending....

He wont let you go with him. If the devs intended for inqy to go to tevinter next game they could have let you go with him right? In secret or whatever.  Im pretty sure dorian is going to be a main point of contact in DA4 (yuuussss )so this is what makes me think that the inquisitor wont feature to much in DA4 which is>>>?????????? after trespasser.. I understand the need for inqy to lay low, but if they magically turn up at the end of the game to see the solas decision through its going to feel a little contrived.

 

To be fair, them not letting Inquisitor go with Dorian (though it's implied in romanced Dorian cards that he's been seen in Minrathous) is likely the same reason why they didn't let Lavellan go with Solas - all Inquisitors have to be at the very same time and space at the start of the next game, that is: trying to unravel Solas's plan or travelling the world in search of answers. So even if they chill with their loved ones in Minrathous, Antiva or wherever, this will only be a short, temporary thing, instead of their main spot in the game.

[NeverlandHunter]

I really want the inquisitor back. I like to start a new game with a new character usually. I didnt really get why so many people wanted the warden back. Beloved character yes. But if they had stopped teasing us about our warden in the next games then they could have rounded up the story in origins and the DLC quite nicely. But with inqy I really dont see anyone else in a better position/understanding/reason/passionwhether friended or not/interesting play off with solas as the inquisitor. They dont feel done at all. Starting with a blank slate with all thats going on feels like a waste of time if Im to be honest, when they could spend that time on beefing up the world/inqys personality/solas plans/seeing tevinter with new eyes instead of looking like a native without a clue. As much as I would love to play as a tevinter native it would make more sense to introduce us to that new world as a fish out of water. And we know inqy is full of questions.

The only reason I have doubts about inqy showing up in tevinter at all is best mage dorians romance ending....

He wont let you go with him. If the devs intended for inqy to go to tevinter next game they could have let you go with him right? In secret or whatever.  Im pretty sure dorian is going to be a main point of contact in DA4 (yuuussss )so this is what makes me think that the inquisitor wont feature to much in DA4 which is>>>?????????? after trespasser.. I understand the need for inqy to lay low, but if they magically turn up at the end of the game to see the solas decision through its going to feel a little contrived.

I would throw my Inquisitor to the wolves _{or one wolf in particular} if it meant the chance to see/play my Warden again! Yeah, I know the Warden is even less likely to show up than the Inquisitor, but my Warden made such a big impact on me! The Inquisitor is awesome too, but look how screwed up Thedas got on her watch, Warden Tabris will clean it right up (after she stops to do a million side quests first)!

 

I'm kidding not really maybe but I find it highly unlikely the Inquisitor will be the protagonist, she'll probably make a cameo appearance, a good one if we're likely, and maybe we'll even have a mission in control of her (what they should of done with Hawke!).

[Eivuwan]

I can see what you mean, but if the intention to carry the Inquisitor over as the new main protag. in DA4 holds true, then there's the implication that there may not be many new, if any, romances. Trespasser (which I realise not everyone will have played for X reason) seemed to show a lot of solidifying of relationships, or the option to anyway. I haven't experienced the romances personally but it seemed like there were a lot of marriage proposals, and even Solas' gets the choice to stick it out (in combination with choosing to redeem him, that's about as commit-y* as it gets).

 

I could see new romance options for those who either didn't romance anyone or want to start a new one.

 

Pretending that dual-protags. becomes a thing, would any of you take a chance to woo the Inquisitor with the new protag.? >:3 Lovely drama.

 

That's like masturbation on a new level.

[LilithMB]

There's definitely benefits of both, I like the way Origins did it the best. It set up your family and life, but that part was over so quickly that the specifics were up to your interpretation. Inquisition was too blank slate for me. I mean, I had no problem headcanoning family and friends, but I think it would of been way more impacting to have someone from your life show up.

 

It's going to be sad to let our Inquisitor's go, but in my opinion it makes the most sense for BioWare to have a whole new protagonist the next game. Just think about the romances there were 8 options in Inquisition, that's 8 different people that have to show up for some semblance of fairness if the Dorian and Solas romances will get to see their loves. Now say BioWare makes 4-6 new romance options, how many extra scenes do they now have to write and make unique and animate and voice over? And even if they decide not to add cameos for everyone's individual romance, how many people are going to stay with their loves and not experience a very fulfilling romance then? 

 

Sure, this could get people to make more characters, but there's only so many times an average fan will play through the game. I have Ithilia Lavellan for Solas, Maeve Trevlyan for I.B., Aurelie Trevelyan for Cullen, Gawaina Cadash for Blackwall, ect. ones I plan to make for the other romances before I'd finally being willing to make and play an Inquisitor that never romanced anyone in Inquisition and is now prepared to accept all the lovins in DA4.

 

This is one of the many issues having the Inquisitor as the protagonist in DA4 would have. 

this could be interesting as well. I think I remember was it David Gaider??? who said that they thought it would be interesting to have love triangles or cheating on your partner/breaking up existing relationships and all that mess. Was it him? I wouldnt ever do it to my baes (solas/dorian) and it would be a headache to get it right but hey..it would add depth and angst and a clean slate to those who want it?

[GoldenGail3]

Hmm, I'm not sure whether you're taking a sarcastic tone by trying to use my username in a condescending fashion. Just to clarify my remarks were meant as playful banter. I'm hoping you picked up on this rather than taking it as a personal attack? Tone is hard to convey on the internet, even when emoticons are used to accentuate our emotions.

 

Anyways, I'mma write this just in case, because I'm sensing some snark, though it might be my imagination.

 

Namaste

 

OMG, i didn't even read your user name.  Unintentional mistake on my part. 

[Jayla]

That's like masturbation on a new level.

 

Okay, I laughed really loud at that. xD It's 2:51am! People are trying to sleep!

 

I really haven't done any self-inserting* with my Inquisitor, the closest I get to is giving them certain traits I share; IE, left-handed, blue/grey eyes, etc. But that's about it... But for those who do... yeah. I concede. xD

 

*Phrasing!

[NeverlandHunter]

I can see what you mean, but if the intention to carry the Inquisitor over as the new main protag. in DA4 holds true, then there's the implication that there may not be many new, if any, romances. Trespasser (which I realise not everyone will have played for X reason) seemed to show a lot of solidifying of relationships, or the option to anyway. I haven't experienced the romances personally but it seemed like there were a lot of marriage proposals, and even Solas' gets the choice to stick it out (in combination with choosing to redeem him, that's about as commit-y* as it gets).

 

I could see new romance options for those who either didn't romance anyone or want to start a new one.

 

Pretending that dual-protags. becomes a thing, would any of you take a chance to woo the Inquisitor with the new protag.? >:3 Lovely drama.

 

*Guess who's been watching Buffy?

If they didn't have new romance options at all that would be unfair to new game purchasers, or people not interested in the romances in DA4. They could just have less... but there again is less opportunity for new players.

 

That would be... weird. And also very difficult for BioWare to do.

 

_{^{Me I have! I just watched the one Halloween episode from Season 2!}}

 

You know what would be a dumb, but possible plot line? Solas is half-way through with accomplishing his plans and BOOM, the Titans wake up and they are going to destroy modern Thedas AND the sleeping ancient elves. Now Solas and Lavellan will have to team up again to stop the Titans. Ancient elves get conveniently sacrificed in the meantime so modern Thedas is saved.

If they're really going to allow Solas to be redeemed the most reasonable course I see (for someone as stubborn as Solas) is for a third party to force him to help the new protagonist/the old one.

[NeverlandHunter]

That's like masturbation on a new level.

*Chokes on tea*

[Eivuwan]

If they didn't have new romance options at all that would be unfair to new game purchasers, or people not interested in the romances in DA4. They could just have less... but there again is less opportunity for new players.

 

That would be... weird. And also very difficult for BioWare to do.

 

_{^{Me I have! I just watched the one Halloween episode from Season 2!}}

 

If they're really going to allow Solas to be redeemed the most reasonable course I see (for someone as stubborn as Solas) is for a third party to force him to help the new protagonist/the old one.

 

This is why I said it's a possible plot-line, but dumb because he's forced by outside factors instead of changing from within. I don't like how Bioware "resolved" the fight between mages and templars. It's like they just got tired of that plot-line and want to do something else so they just used plot-no-jutsu to get rid of the conflict.

[Sable Rhapsody]

While I was never convinced that they'll let us play Quizzy as a main protag (though they may yet return as secondary protagonists), I'm not really sure if characters like Hawke or Quizzy sacrifice depth - quite the opposite in fact. If you have to start with a new character, and you only have it for one game, you only have as much depth as the game lasts and story options we were given. A recurring character necessarily gets more depth, because we don't have to do all the work of establishing the basics about them.

 
That's what I said.    In exchange for losing breadth, Hawke (and quizzy moving forward) have more RP depth.  Sorry if I wasn't clear.
 

this could be interesting as well. I think I remember was it David Gaider??? who said that they thought it would be interesting to have love triangles or cheating on your partner/breaking up existing relationships and all that mess. Was it him? I wouldnt ever do it to my baes (solas/dorian) and it would be a headache to get it right but hey..it would add depth and angst and a clean slate to those who want it?

They kinda did this with Mass Effect. TBH I'm not entirely happy with how it worked there.

[Jayla]

If they didn't have new romance options at all that would be unfair to new game purchasers, or people not interested in the romances in DA4. They could just have less... but there again is less opportunity for new players.

 

That would be... weird. And also very difficult for BioWare to do.

 

_{^{Me I have! I just watched the one Halloween episode from Season 2!}}

 

That's true, which is why - as much as I love the idea of the Inquisitor being the main protagonist - I doubt it'll actually happen. Dual-protag (which I'm against) at least, new protag is more likely.  Totally ready to eat my hat though.

 

I always skip the first three seasons. D: Too much Angel, not enough Spike!

[LilithMB]

 
That's what I said.    In exchange for losing breadth, Hawke (and quizzy moving forward) have more RP depth.  Sorry if I wasn't clear.
 

They kinda did this with Mass Effect. TBH I'm not entirely happy with how it worked there.

oh yeah I know   but they are different teams. So although they would no doubt get it so wrong with some people it could be interesting?

[Sable Rhapsody]

oh yeah I know   but they are different teams. So although they would no doubt get it so wrong with some people it could be interesting?

 

I guess with Jacob Taylor, they tried for "so wrong it could be interesting," and instead overshot into "character assassination by exploding dung heap." 

[FrankWisdom]

OMG, i didn't even read your user name.  Unintentional mistake on my part. 

np, just wanted some clarity

[NeverlandHunter]

That's true, which is why - as much as I love the idea of the Inquisitor being the main protagonist - I doubt it'll actually happen. Dual-protag (which I'm against) at least, new protag is more likely.  Totally ready to eat my hat though.

 

I always skip the first three seasons. D: Too much Angel, not enough Spike!

I don't really like the dual-protagonist idea myself 

The second season is supposed to be the fan favorite! I just started the series and I'm only on the second season on Netflix (I only vaguely remember seeing little bits of it when I was a youngling)

 

This is why I said it's a possible plot-line, but dumb because he's forced by outside factors instead of changing from within. I don't like how Bioware "resolved" the fight between mages and templars. It's like they just got tired of that plot-line and want to do something else so they just used plot-no-jutsu to get rid of the conflict.

That's a good point, but forcing him into that situation might be enough to change his views on the world.

[LilithMB]

I guess with Jacob Taylor, they tried for "so wrong it could be interesting," and instead overshot into "character assassination by exploding dung heap." 

just to clarify, I didnt mean for your character to be cheated on by your inquisition loves. I meant the other way around. And like I said although I would never do it to my LI's it would give a way for new players to have romances or ones that wanted to or have a need for that sort of drama if they were to give us the inquisitor again. But yes it would have to be handled so carefully that it would probably be better to just have a new character.

[midnight tea]

 
That's what I said.    In exchange for losing breadth, Hawke (and quizzy moving forward) have more RP depth.  Sorry if I wasn't clear.

 

UH, sorry for that - I think I'm catching cold and I'm getting all kinds of 'bleh' at this point, which apparently 'sloppifies' my reading comprehension  

[MayriyaNoori]

Okay, still catching up and this is like 5 pages ago.....

 

.....but how do people make such good looking male Lavellans?!?!?!? I have tried so many times and can't do it.