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I still think the Western Approach or potentially Solasan temple. But it's more interesting why he wouldn't reveal it. I bet there are others still sleeping there.


Want to know something sad?

I haven't explored the Western Approach at all because everytime I went there something kept causing my game to crash to a white screen. To do the main storyline quest there I had to mount up and gallop across the map spamming f5.

I haven't checked to see if this has stopped in a while.

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Someone just asked Weekes on Twitter:

 

" Can you say where in Thedas Solas was while he was in uthenera?"

Weekes: NOPE (all caps like that)

 

 

Hmmmmm

 

Playing DA2 again, and I reckon he might have been not too far from Kirkwall, actually.

 

Flemeth was transported to Sundermount because a) she needed to get around Morrigan, and B) she had 'an appointment to keep', in her own words. Bear in mind that it took Hawke a year to get her then, and even then she was surprised the amulet had made it there at all in such good time, which explains the time discrepancies perhaps (this occurred ten years before the breach). Flemeth had by that point been living in the wilds for years - hence, 'witch of the wild'. I doubt she'd relocate for anyone unless it was incredibly important, and I really can't think of anything more important than preparing for the awakening of the dread wolf. I strongly suspect she has part in it.

 

I think this case is strengthened further by the obscure codex entry you get in the Black Emporium in Act 3: The Emergent Compendium. Amongst the newest pages in the compendium, there is this: "Two shadowed spheres among stars subtitled "aboofqp iboxE'kbC px bpmfizb kX", where the latter half of that translates to 'an eclipse as Fen'Harel stirred'. This would be around 9:37ish Dragon, which is by Solas' account actually too early, but it's possible the power needed to eventually awake him was gathered from the eclipse. Even if this wasn't the true awakening, some kind of magical ritual occurred within the timeline of DA2 which affected Fen'Harel in some way. Mythal's followers were able to find his sanctuary, so I really doubt it'd be too strange if Mythal was able to find and enter where he was in uthenera, particularly if he does turn out to have previously been her guardian before the fall.

 

Assuming Flemeth is still in the Free Marches (admittedly she could have just been trying to lose Morrigan and would travel freely from that point on), her location during the events of DA2 is probably also Solas' location. So I'd guess, 'not too far from Kirkwall'. Helps also that the veil is thin there, and there'd be symbolic value in having it close the site where the Magisters first attempted to enter the black city.


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I always figured it was Sundermount. There was a lot of weird stuff going on there - Ancient elfy magic, weakened Veil, dragons, Flemeth, and something I rarely see brought up is that, in Act Three, one of the corpses in the back of the Bone Pit is carrying a Warden's Oath - and we know the Wardens were up to something in the area around Kirkwall.

 

At the time I assumed it was one of the Old God prisons. Now I think it's where Solas was sleeping in Uthanera (Or, if not him, something else ancient and elfy) Flemeth needed to be take there because she had "an appointment to keep" - messing with Solas, probs. The Warden's Oath Corpse Guy, along with the wardens in Kirkwall, were there investigating the area or (If Legacy's already been completed) finding the Orb. And the elven ruins and general magicky-ness are all because it's the site of an ancient elven slumber party.

 

It's not an airtight theory, no, but something's definitely up with Sundermount, and at the moment this is my best guess.

 

haha, someone beat me to it and argued for it much more convincingly :P

 

Sundermount would be my guess too, or close by (I think it's likely that wherever he was asleep, it's very hidden). Remind me, does anyone remember if there was a broken eluvian in the chamber at Sundermount where you confronted the demon with Merrill? It'd be wonderful if that existed and potentially led to his chambers. I'd like to know how differently Merrill would have felt about it all if she knew the Dread Wolf was sleeping nearby, heh.



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@Ellawynn and @Shallow waters

 

Didn't think of Sundermount (I should seriously replay DAII in depth instead of doing yet another canon PT), but you bring up great points. Now what business did he have in the Western Approach after he woke up then?

 

If it was Solasan temple, then probably not.  There's only animated corpses and the elemental resistance sarcophagi there.  Unless the people in the sarcophagi were elves in magical stasis, and we murdered them by looting the temple  :blink:

 

If someone's sleeping in that temple, it's probably deep underground and can only be accessed in a very special way.

 

Want to know something sad?

I haven't explored the Western Approach at all because everytime I went there something kept causing my game to crash to a white screen. To do the main storyline quest there I had to mount up and gallop across the map spamming f5.

I haven't checked to see if this has stopped in a while.

 

It was one of my least favorite maps, it will be ironic if it turns out to have that much story relevance.



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Let's not forget the mask of fen'harel could open a portal into the Fade



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haha, someone beat me to it and argued for it much more convincingly :P

Nah, you plugged some of the holes my version had. The time difference between the Compendium, for instance - I actually hadn't thought of it like that, that Flemeth (Or someone else) used the power of the eclipse to wake him. I had just assumed the Compedium was capable of logging events that hadn't happened yet.

 

The only issue I have with it are the Wardens in Act Two. As I recall, Legacy can be beat at any point in the game, even Act Three. So why would the Wardens be there if in some playthroughs Corypheus is still locked up? I guess it's not impossible that they're in habit of keeping tabs on all manner of ancient magical beings (Since, God, can you imagine a blighted Dread Wolf?) but there isn't much other evidence to support that, and besides, the location of the Old Gods is only known to high-ranking wardens. Why send a rookie like Carver to handle something so important?

 

Granted, I also suspect that there's some weird magical bullshit going on with the Wardens, because what ancient order doesn't mess with weird magical bullshit at one point or another. We really need to go to Weisshaupt at some point.



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@Ellawynn and @Shallow waters

 

Didn't think of Sundermount (I should seriously replay DAII in depth instead of doing yet another canon PT), but you bring up great points. Now what business did he have in the Western Approach after he woke up then?

I'm not aware of anything shady Solas was doing in the Western Approach. What's the story there?

 

Let's not forget the mask of fen'harel could open a portal into the Fade

Was DA: Redemption canon? People talk about it like it's canon, but it's my understanding that it was just some fan series with big(ish) name actors, and that while some characters show up in the main game as a nod to it, the actual events and lore of Redemption are pretty much made-up and non-canonical.

 

(Sorry for the double posts)



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Am I the only one who tends to headcanon my characters in their 30's or more? ... Somehow, I can't play younger than myself.

Will suck in a time... I suppose.

 

I'm late to the party but, nah. Alleyana is by necessity 14 years older than the Hero of Ferelden, so that puts her at around 47 when she stumbles out of the Fade the first time, and 50 when Solas dissolves her arm.

 

--

 

Also I saw some other folks talking about male Lavellans? I made my HoF so I could see him in the frostbite engine, though he's a Tabris Surana, not a Lavellan. Still. I think he came out pretty well.

 

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I'm not aware of anything shady Solas was doing in the Western Approach. What's the story there?

 

One of his location comments about the Western Approach is, "I traveled here once. Nearly died from a lack of water." So he must've either slept there or at Solasan, and passed through on his way to other places when he woke up, or if he slept somewhere else, he must've had some business there afterwards.



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One of his location comments about the Western Approach is, "I traveled here once. Nearly died from a lack of water." So he must've either slept there or at Solasan, and passed through on his way to other places when he woke up, or if he slept somewhere else, he must've had some business there afterwards.

 

It could also refer to events when he was a lot younger, back in Arlathan.  He wandered off into the desert to find himself, and ignored Mythal's admonishments about hydration and sunscreen :P


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It could also refer to events when he was a lot younger, back in Arlathan.  He wandered off into the desert to find himself, and ignored Mythal's admonishments about hydration and sunscreen :P

 

I think the Western Approach only became a desert after the Second Blight, so that was long after Arlathan. From the old ruins it seems it was some major Tevinter city back in the day. Could be that before that it was some major Elvhenan city. He also says about it, "This was once a place of old empires and great rituals." (inexact quote, but emphasis on empires and rituals).

 

Come to think of it, dude had a lot to say about the Western Approach while everyone else was mostly bitching about the sand. Yeah, definitely something shady going on there. 


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Come to think of it, dude had a lot to say about the Western Approach while everyone else was mostly bitching about the sand. Yeah, definitely something shady going on there. 

 

Strange, he barely said anything in my game.  I think all of Varric's grumbling about dwarves and sand and dwarves might have taken precedence.


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Tell me he has sexy nerd glasses.

 

There is just - there is such a sad lack of modern AU Solas with sexy nerd glasses.

 

Please. Please I need this.

*Ahehehehehem*

Absolutely.

 

(Kind of NSFW)

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Strange, he barely said anything in my game.  I think all of Varric's grumbling about dwarves and sand and dwarves might have taken precedence.

 

Oh, I never got any of it in game. I listened to Dana Duchy's party banter videos. Sorry that I don't have the time to fish for a link now. I'm working on this thing, and... aaaargh, turns out taking care of a team is difficult. Solas, how do you run your network of agents, so efficiently? Lasa ghilain!



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I think the Western Approach only became a desert after the Second Blight, so that was long after Arlathan. From the old ruins it seems it was some major Tevinter city back in the day. Could be that before that it was some major Elvhenan city. He also says about it, "This was once a place of old empires and great rituals." (inexact quote, but emphasis on empires and rituals).

 

Come to think of it, dude had a lot to say about the Western Approach while everyone else was mostly bitching about the sand. Yeah, definitely something shady going on there. 

Oh. Huh. Well... *Shrug* I dunno.

 

Although... Western Approach is where the Fenrir Astrarium is. I suppose that story might relate somehow. 

 

And yeah, I'm pretty sure the Solasan Temple is connected to him in some manner. And of course he seals it with the most tedious, back-breaking puzzle in the entirety of Inquisition. Like goddamit Solas, I grew up on platformers but this game just ain't built for it.



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And yeah, I'm pretty sure the Solasan Temple is connected to him in some manner. And of course he seals it with the most tedious, back-breaking puzzle in the entirety of Inquisition. Like goddamit Solas, I grew up on platformers but this game just ain't built for it.

 

I think, in that case, I'm going to make him pay for it in the next playthrough.  He designed the stupid thing, he can do all the undignified platforming :P


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Strange, he barely said anything in my game.  I think all of Varric's grumbling about dwarves and sand and dwarves might have taken precedence.

Varric does not grumble, he iterates dramatically!  :P

I didn't hear much Solas dialogue there either.



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I think, in that case, I'm going to make him pay for it in the next playthrough.  He designed the stupid thing, he can do all the undignified platforming :P

 

Great idea! I think I'll headcanon him being all grumpy about it, while secretly thinking, "Why did I do this???"


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Oh, I never got any of it in game. I listened to Dana Duchy's party banter videos. Sorry that I don't have the time to fish for a link now. I'm working on this thing, and... aaaargh, turns out taking care of a team is difficult. Solas, how do you run your network of agents, so efficiently? Lasa ghilain!

 26:02 - The Western Approach


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Thanks, falon! (You didn't eat the cookies, right?)



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I think, in that case, I'm going to make him pay for it in the next playthrough.  He designed the stupid thing, he can do all the undignified platforming :P

Having completed it once, it will be hard to reisist doing it again but then I start to think about some of those shards and how much of a pain they were. Officially TBD. :P



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Thanks, falon! (You didn't eat the cookies, right?)

You're welcome... uh, why?

 

Also "This is where I appreciate learning the magic to prevent sunburn on a bald head."

Is this the only time he acknowledges being bald XD?


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Having completed it once, it will be hard to reisist doing it again but then I start to think about some of those shards and how much of a pain they were. Officially TBD. :P

 

Yeah, I never completed it.  So I'm going to put Solas in the crotch-flap pants and do some platforming.  For elvhen lore :D


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You're welcome... uh, why?

 

Also "This is were I appreciate learning the magic to prevent sunburn on a bald head."

Is this the only time he acknowledges being bald XD?

 

Oh, don't worry about it :)

 

Yes, my favorite location comment of all times. I remember hearing it for the first time and it made me cry a little, because it was just so adorkable Solas. 



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Oh, don't worry about it :)

 

Yes, my favorite location comment of all times. I remember hearing it for the first time and it made me cry a little, because it was just so adorkable Solas. 

*Eyes suspiciously* 

Drosophila you're always the one passing out cookies, if people start getting sick we'll know who to blame!

 

 

:lol: That is so cute! I'm glad he acknowledged it... I did wonder.


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