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This is glorious! And a bit reminiscent of Sera!

Looking at this way, I 100% agree, it makes both semantic and grammatical sense. And heads off a very awkward conversation.

"Where do you think we are?"
"Near the requisition table."
"Which is...?"
"In front of the chantry."
"And the chantry is...?"
"...west of the bridge?"
*sigh* "yes, but is that bridge --"
"West of ferelden? I don't know, Solas, but this is getting weird."
*clenched teeth* "I agree." *gives up on gremlins*

...I laughed irl xD

Pleasant discussion -- would do again. 


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I don't know Cee, I agree with you about Crusher's third point but I don't think your example sentence works for the Fade situation. Solas is talking about a prese situation like it has past while Crystal was talking about a future situation, that was happening, but she spoke as if it was done with.

For me when I saw the fade scene I never thought about that too much because I thought that it's just the way to say it in English because in Finnish our timing like when we speak about the ''future'' we speak it as present. We do not say '' I will be doing this '' we say '' We are doing it ''
Another thing is what I realized today as I was writing down a comment on youtube I had done one personality test and I had written to someone: '' I was also ENFP(I think it was called like that) '' cause that is how I would've said it in Finnish though I should've said '' I am also '' but because well.. I was referring to more that I HAD done the test already in the past and in THAT test I WAS enfp haha so I used ''was'' even though I still AM that. Idk if anyone gets what I mean XD


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For me when I saw the fade scene I never thought about that too much because I thought that it's just the way to say it in English because in Finnish our timing like when we speak about the ''future'' we speak it as present. We do not say '' I will be doing this '' we say '' We are doing it ''
Another thing is what I realized today as I was writing down a comment on youtube I had done one personality test and I had written to someone: '' I was also ENFP(I think it was called like that) '' cause that is how I would've said it in Finnish though I should've said '' I am also '' but because well.. I was referring to more that I HAD done the test already in the past and in THAT test I WAS enfp haha so I used ''was'' even though I still AM that. Idk if anyone gets what I mean XD


It does make sense! And languages are awesome :D
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...I laughed irl xD
Pleasant discussion -- would do again.

Yush! I shall seek you out the next time I'm mired in grammatical befuddlement. You're like ... A spirit of clarity. In the Fade.

I feel like we've been trolled by Bioware.

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"Where do you think we are?"
"Near the requisition table."
"Which is...?"
"In front of the chantry."
"And the chantry is...?"
"...west of the bridge?"
*sigh* "yes, but is that bridge --"
"West of ferelden? I don't know, Solas, but this is getting weird."
*clenched teeth* "I agree." *gives up on gremlins*

And! That bit sounds like it could lead to a nice little logic puzzle. Patrick Weekes would approve!

PS: It really was a nice mind exercise and everyone brought good POVs and knowledge to the table to be mulled over. So yes, it honestly was a pleasant discussion 8D


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I've also thought about this.... 

Spoiler

Well I have to say this sadly but he does say '' If they must die I would rather they die in comfort ''

so... yes.. also he says for inky '' Live well while time remains '' or '' Drawing you here gave me the chance to save you... at least for now.. ''


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And! That bit sounds like it could lead to a nice little logic puzzle. Patrick Weekes would approve!
PS: It really was a nice mind exercise and everyone brought good POVs and knowledge to the table to be mulled over. So yes, it honestly was a pleasant discussion 8D


So...I'm to understand the discussion as an act of the past, yes?
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#131483
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Well I have to say this sadly but he does say '' If they must die I would rather they die in comfort ''

so... yes.. also he says for inky '' Live well while time remains '' or '' Drawing you here gave me the chance to save you... at least for now.. ''

 

Does "live well while time remains" must mean Inky will die? I think you can read it as "live well until the Veil comes down and shit hits the fan", "save you at least for now" is the same.

He doesn't seem certain everybody will die, he says to low-approval Inky "most likely" and there are more hints in the conversation with him.

He probably foresees a change and doesn't know how it will affect the broken people of Thedas.


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Okay, just found this. A Doctor Who reference. :P I don't watch Doctor Who but I guess some people who do watch it might appreciate it? Maybe?

 

Source: http://renatafortuna...st/130541760356

 

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Okay, just found this. A Doctor Who reference. :P I don't watch Doctor Who but I guess some people who do watch it might appreciate it? Maybe?

 

Don't get the reference, laughed anyway. 10/10 good job ;).



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Okay, just found this. A Doctor Who reference. :P I don't watch Doctor Who but I guess some people who do watch it might appreciate it? Maybe?
 
Source: http://renatafortuna...st/130541760356
 
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I'm agreeing with the Sundermount theories offered up here. Worth noting that the cave that Merrill's demon buddy is in is called "Pride's End", and that there's one of those multi-armed fat statues that's been linked to the ancient elves, the Dales, and Dumat-worshipers. The 'Thing in the Dark' that's caused no end of theorizing.

 

On a RL note,

Spoiler

 

Just stay safe tomorrow.
 



#131488
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:blink:

 

Umm, are you sure you're not over-analyzing the whole "We saw you die" line? I really never saw it that way and thought it's just stating the obvious -- that Solas and the rest of the companions saw Quizzy and Dorian "die".

 

(Yes, I read your post on the psychological standpoint btw.)

 

 

This.  Replying to agree, basically.


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#131489
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Gorgeous art of Lavellan as the new Fen'Harel by shalizeh7. (I don't remember if this has been shared before.)

*stares at pretty fan art*  <3

 

*comes back to thread and reads*

 

You know, I wonder if the other threads on BSN are cool enough to have debates/discussions about auxiliary verbs.

 

I find it pretty boss myself.

I know! How cool is that!  :police:


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#131490
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The Solas thread ... come for the discussion about Solas both good and bad, stay for the debate on grammar and semantics.

 

... and cookies!

 

:D


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The Solas thread ... come for the discussion about Solas both good and bad, stay for the debate on grammar and semantics.

 

... and cookies!

 

:D

frilly orlesian cakes  :D


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frilly orlesian cakes  :D


Or stinky Orlasian cheese.

#131493
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frilly orlesian cakes  :D

I hope not the ones Leliana is warning us about! 



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*finally accomplishes making a decent male elf*

 

Woot. Mmmm....I'm gonna romance Josephine this play through.

 

*flirting with Cassandra*

 

I was wrong.


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*finally accomplishes making a decent male elf*
 
Woot. Mmmm....I'm gonna romance Josephine this play through.
 
*flirting with Cassandra*
 
I was wrong.


*Understands and pats on head* It'll turn out for the best. Cass is awesome.
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#131496
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Good news: Skara's mods are back online.  They're on the DAI Tools forum.  Can't provide a link because my tablet is being a pain. 


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Does "live well while time remains" must mean Inky will die? I think you can read it as "live well until the Veil comes down and shit hits the fan", "save you at least for now" is the same.

He doesn't seem certain everybody will die, he says to low-approval Inky "most likely" and there are more hints in the conversation with him.

He probably foresees a change and doesn't know how it will affect the broken people of Thedas.

well he does sadly say '' Returning of my people means the end of yours '' I highly doubt that they wanted to make so many mysteries to that and made it pretty clear whats going to happen next. Now I am not saying everyone will die but most I would assume.. how? I don't know :S
I was correct about his orb giving theory so I feel like if the writers were pretty logical in that one then I would think they will go logical here as well. Trust me I also want to hope more XD and there is always a POSSIBILITY XD but I just highly think it's going to destroy many people some how :(



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Good news: Skara's mods are back online.  They're on the DAI Tools forum.  Can't provide a link because my tablet is being a pain. 

http://daitools.free...eavy-t1245.html

I was just checking them out and grabbing some, in case I'm back to modding.


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http://daitools.free...eavy-t1245.html

I was just checking them out and grabbing some, in case I'm back to modding.

 

Thanks.  For some reason I couldn't paste the link.  No sign of the Halamshiral retextures, though.  Luckily I still have my files for those.  I may grab that skin texture for my m!Lavellan.  Dorian Greatly Approves.


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well he does sadly say '' Returning of my people means the end of yours '' I highly doubt that they wanted to make so many mysteries to that and made it pretty clear whats going to happen next. Now I am not saying everyone will die but most I would assume.. how? I don't know :S
I was correct about his orb giving theory so I feel like if the writers were pretty logical in that one then I would think they will go logical here as well. Trust me I also want to hope more XD and there is always a POSSIBILITY XD but I just highly think it's going to destroy many people some how :(

 

"End of yours", "your world must die", etc.

Like his world died.

It could be metaphorical, he said he destroyed the world, but Thedas still exists, dwarves still exist, elves still exist.

 

I'm 100% certain the Veil will come down in the next game (there are 3 different prophecies foreseeing that and several prominent characters speaking about an upcoming change), I think that the sundering of Veil will not kill everybody because then Thedas will just end.

When he spoke about his previous plan to rip down the Veil via his orb he said that while the world burned in raw chaos, he would've restored the elvhen, I think chaos = spirits, demons, people getting magic, mages growing suddenly stronger, titans awakening, etc.

If having the Fade merge with the unchanging world will cause anybody to die, Solas will stop being grey, it will change him from a compelling antagonist to a full on evil villain. Moreover, (in my eyes) it isn't as interesting if there is nothing to be gained from the removal of the Veil, it takes from the story. 


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