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[S.W.]

My Quizzy was so freaking elfy, the norm was 'Solas slightly approves'.... 'Cassandra greatly disapproves'.

 

Oh, mine too, but I'm a thousand miles away from my Halla Princess Lavellen. She has all the refinement and sophistication which I was never quite capable of.

 

After today, I've committed myself to giving more, and more specific, comments and feedback on anything I read. If I read it, I impose on myself to comment on it. But it would be great if others commit to this as well, since there's a range of writers around here with different styles, experience, etc. 

 

If you don't know what to say, here's a handy prompt:

 

1. What was your favorite line? Why? How did it make you feel, did it evoke tears, laughter, anger, anything else?

 

2. Do you think any particular character is very well-done?

 

3. What would you like to know more about? 

 

4. Was there some line, word, description that somehow brought you out of immersion for a particular character? Can you come up with a better alternative?

 

5. How's the pacing? Is the story going too fast? Too slow? Just right?

 

6. Any comments about the writer's style? Is it poetic, easy-going, dramatic?

 

This is just something to get people started. Feel free to add or remove things from the list.

 

So let's try an experiment: Next time you post a fic, add a note at the end that you welcome feedback, and paste these question prompts (or the edited version of them). See if this helps us give and receive more feedback within our little community. 

 

If you link me to a fic of yours (gimme anything, as long as it's under 10k words, I've got nothing scheduled tomorrow), I can do this for you tomorrow.

 

I think a lot of the reason I don't write as much as I'd like is - well, asides from that I've got worse at banging out a load of words at once, and that my skill at time management exponentially increases with how busy I am - is the lack of feedback I get on my work. I love critical feedback. I know some people just like to write for fun - which is why I don't usually leave it - but I've always seen it as something I'd like to do really well on top of that.

[Homeboundcrib]

What is up with Within Temptation and the fact that so many of their songs seem to be connected to Solas? I re-listened to one of my favorite tracks from their latest album Hydra, and just look at the lyrics! It feels like it could have easily been Solas personal soundtrack!



Lyrics:

Spoiler

"Tell Me Why"

I've been losing myself in anger
So much broken by the rage.
Nothing could take my mind off,
How to make them pay.

Killing myself for nothing
And the pain won't go away
Losing myself to madness
And the game's been played

If I could turn the hands of time, I would
But here I am

[Chorus:]
Tell me, why am I still here when it's all gone
I'm living with the ghosts of yesterday
Tell me why am I still trying to hold on
I've got to tear it down, to let it go

I'm too tired to keep on trying,
But I'm spellbound till the end.
Knowing that there's no closure
For my wars inside.

I've buried the good and evil,
Only memories left behind
I am the one still standing
I will live to tell

If I could turn the hands of time, I would
But here I am, here I am

[Chorus]

Tell me why I'm wasting away
Tell me how to break my own chains
'Cause I'm losing after all
How can I escape this grim fate
Tell me how to face one more day
'Cause I'm wasting away

It's all gone silent
I'm searching for fire
Nothing to fight for
Alone

Tell me why am I still here when it's all gone
Whoah, living with the ghosts of yesterday

[Chorus]

Oh this song just bleeds solas everywhere perfect fit for him.

[TheyCallMeBunny]

I KNOW, WT songs are generally perfect for DAI. 

 

This one is for our Inkys:

 

 

That was my very first WT-song (together with See Who I Am) so it has a very special place in my heart.

[drosophila]

Oh, mine too, but I'm a thousand miles away from my Halla Princess Lavellen. She has all the refinement and sophistication which I was never quite capable of.

 

 

If you link me to a fic of yours (gimme anything, as long as it's under 10k words, I've got nothing scheduled tomorrow), I can do this for you tomorrow.

 

I think a lot of the reason I don't write as much as I'd like is - well, asides from that I've got worse at banging out a load of words at once, and that my skill at time management exponentially increases with how busy I am - is the lack of feedback I get on my work. I love critical feedback. I know some people just like to write for fun - which is why I don't usually leave it - but I've always seen it as something I'd like to do really well on top of that.

 

This one, 2318 words so far. Don't read if rivalmances bother you or trigger you somehow. 

 

http://archiveofouro...pters/11124812 

 

I know you published a new chapter of your bottles of Thedas fic, and I haven't read it yet, so I'll do the same!

 

Just give me till the weekend - this week's a bit crazy for me, also Dirthament doesn't love me anymore, an experiment is not working, and I must endure. 

 

Oh, and I agree - feedback does give me that extra push to work on something. It's human nature. 

[drosophila]

That was my very first WT-song (together with See Who I Am) so it has a very special place in my heart.

 

Out of likes, argh

[Baklava]

 

What is up with Within Temptation and the fact that so many of their songs seem to be connected to Solas? I re-listened to one of my favorite tracks from their latest album Hydra, and just look at the lyrics! It feels like it could have easily been Solas personal soundtrack! 

 

Yup. This one too, though it's more solavellan.

 

[Moondreamer01]

Well, mine's in my sig but here is the link : http://archiveofouro...apters/11015309

It's a bit over 5k and 4 chapters right now, with a fifth one that I should be posting as soon as my beta readers get back to me with the edits (*wave at Sable Rhapsody*) It should be a long one, I am realizing, and it's scaring me a bit. But I'll go one as long as possible and I do have a ton of ideas. Not much of Solas in there for now though, I'm afraid

 

Also, an older smutt/fluff piece if anyone's interested (NSFW) http://archiveofouro...g/works/3341282

[Moondreamer01]

Yup. This one too, though it's more solavellan.

 

For me, this is the Inquisitor pleading with Solas to spare the world. It's no paradise but it's worth fighting for. The feelz 

[TheyCallMeBunny]

Oh this song just bleeds solas everywhere perfect fit for him.

 

 

I especially like the phrase "I've buried the good and evil" because it really seems like Solas has done just that - he has numbed himself so as to be able to continue on this path. From a psychological point of view Solas really is very interesting!

 

 

Out of likes, argh

 

 

For some reason I'm never out of likes, which I find a bit hilarious as the people from the area I grew up in are known to be really stingy... I guess that makes sense since on the forums likes are kind of like a currency... 

[Cee]

For a certain definition of knowledge and wisdom, anyway

 

Solas greatly disapproves.

 

We are a mature, well-rounded, sophisticated bunch of individuals.

 

I just made something to eat and loaded on much cheese. With the dogs and cheese, clearly I would make a fine Ferelden.

[TheyCallMeBunny]

Yup. This one too, though it's more solavellan.

 

*snip*

 

A bit off topic, but that song is totally my soundtrack for ME3, and I love it dearly!

 

On topic again, we know that Solas was given the name "The Dread Wolf" by the other Evanuris, and with the exception of the murals at his sanctuary he has always been depicted as such (correct me if I am wrong). So I'm curious, why is he depicted the same way as the other Evanuris in their temples (both the temple of Mythal and Dirthamen had his wolf mosaic, can not remember if I saw him at Elgar'nan's bastion) when his wolf form should represent something bad? I mean, shouldn't he be shunned or at least be shown as a separate "evil" entity if the Evanuris wanted to distance themselves from him? Instead, his mosaic is cohesive with the others. I just find that a bit weird...

 

Sorry if I'm incoherent, it's almost 3 am here... *yawn*

[FernRain]

Just woke up from a dream where Solas turned into a demon because he tried to get Iron Bull to kill Cole.

 

What. the..

[Homeboundcrib]

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I especially like the phrase "I've buried the good and evil" because it really seems like Solas has done just that - he has numbed himself so as to be able to continue on this path. From a psychological point of view Solas really is very interesting!

Yes in nearly every way he has done that just buried everything that is true about himself away hidden so he can continue. He is isn't he I think that's one of the reasons why I really like him, he's not just plain black and white, peel away the layers and there is so much to find. now I'm kinda sad that I couldn't learn about solas in psychology haha oh how class would have been more fun then.

[Kadan]

Imagine Quizzy trying to close rifts.

 

OH S***! I can't breathe!

[Cee]

A bit off topic, but that song is totally my soundtrack for ME3, and I love it dearly!

 

On topic again, we know that Solas was given the name "The Dread Wolf" by the other Evanuris, and with the exception of the murals at his sanctuary he has always been depicted as such (correct me if I am wrong). So I'm curious, why is he depicted the same way as the other Evanuris in their temples (both the temple of Mythal and Dirthamen had his wolf mosaic, can not remember if I saw him at Elgar'nan's bastion) when his wolf form should represent something bad? I mean, shouldn't he be shunned or at least be shown as a separate "evil" entity if the Evanuris wanted to distance themselves from him? Instead, his mosaic is cohesive with the others. I just find that a bit weird...

 

Sorry if I'm incoherent, it's almost 3 am here... *yawn*

 

As far as the depictions, it might be relevant when the statues and murals were created. At one point, even though he was working to free slaves and work toward rebellion, there's still a lot we don't know about some of his activities or exact relationship to all of the Evanuris or the Forgotten Ones. We know that legends can be distorted like a big game of telephone, but all we have to go on now are Solas talking about being given the nickname Fen'Harel, a nickname he decided to use. Like a bunch of friends/acquaintances making a joke. Even Mythal, his closest friend (let's just call her that for now as we don't know more) calls him Dread Wolf and not Solas. Obviously, in that scene, calling him Dread Wolf is, on a meta level, something that informs us, the audience of his identity, maybe that's just the thing she was still used to calling him since he adopted it for himself.

 

He tells of wars and sacrifices he has made and of being betrayed, so there's a whole other side that we still just don't know.

 

Presumably, the doings of the Evanuris, including Fen'Harel, weren't fully known to the people who created those works either. In the real world, we have plenty of art meant to venerate leaders or deities that were done for ones that even had terrible reputations or records.

 

I'm not sure if this is even going anywhere or making sense but ultimately, I think we either don't have enough info or it's just something the art team thought would be there, or thought might be suspect if absent. Especially since they planned Solas/Fen'Harel as a reveal for a while, so leaving him out would've maybe been suspicious since we were supposed to think of the "gods" as a pantheon and  on a similar level with the whole betrayer, trickster, big bad in Fen'Harel.

[Moondreamer01]

As far as the depictions, it might be relevant when the statues and murals were created. At one point, even though he was working to free slaves and work toward rebellion, there's still a lot we don't know about some of his activities or exact relationship to all of the Evanuris or the Forgotten Ones. We know that legends can be distorted like a big game of telephone, but all we have to go on now are Solas talking about being given the nickname Fen'Harel, a nickname he decided to use. Like a bunch of friends/acquaintances making a joke. Even Mythal, his closest friend (let's just call her that for now as we don't know more) calls him Dread Wolf and not Solas. Obviously, in that scene, calling him Dread Wolf is, on a meta level, something that informs us, the audience of his identity, maybe that's just the thing she was still used to calling him since he adopted it for himself.

 

He tells of wars and sacrifices he has made and of being betrayed, so there's a whole other side that we still just don't know.

 

Presumably, the doings of the Evanuris, including Fen'Harel, weren't fully known to the people who created those works either. In the real world, we have plenty of art meant to venerate leaders or deities that were done for ones that even had terrible reputations or records.

 

I'm not sure if this is even going anywhere or making sense but ultimately, I think we either don't have enough info or it's just something the art team thought would be there, or thought might be suspect if absent. Especially since they planned Solas/Fen'Harel as a reveal for a while, so leaving him out would've maybe been suspicious since we were supposed to think of the "gods" as a pantheon and  on a similar level with the whole betrayer, trickster, big bad in Fen'Harel.

I also have the sense that the civilization of Elvhenan lasted for quited a while, although in a crippled fashion, after Solas raised the Veil and most probably vanished (in uthenera) with the rest of the Evanuris. We already know the elves still worship the Evanuris even after they stopped responding to prayer and probably did so until Tevinter swooped in (yes, I know, swooping is bad) and destroyed what was left of Evhenan. I wouldn't be surprised the truth had started being twisted even then, and perhaps Fen'Harel joined the pantheon as the "rebel" god (or trikster god, it's unclear at the point) this early in history.

 

Edit : Top of the page Solas!

 

 

Source : http://smalllady.tum...st/130575923228

[Cee]

Damn it, Solas, why do you walk in such a distracting manner?

[Moondreamer01]

I'll just leave that here

 

 

Source : http://lavellanlove....avellan-greatly

[FernRain]

Imagine Quizzy trying to close rifts.

 

I laughed so much at the last few pages. Thank you everyone! 10/10 quality posts.

[Homeboundcrib]

Solas sure does have some nice thighs in that armor now I'm gonna go pick my head up out of the gutter.

[Moondreamer01]

Solas sure does have some nice thighs in that armor now I'm gonna go pick my head up out of the gutter.

I have to say, watching him approach the quizzy, completely in control while she's on her knees and almost screaming in pain, and he just... stops and looms over her for a second before he talks? It left me feeling things, man 

 

[Homeboundcrib]

I know how you feel he just walks over all cool and fresh like nothing's going on at all, and our poor inqusitiors are screaming in pain on the ground. But you gotta give it to solas he does it with style

[Moondreamer01]

I know how you feel he just walks over all cool and fresh like nothing's going on at all, and our poor inqusitiors are screaming in pain on the ground. But you gotta give it to solas he does it with style

If only Dorian and Vivienne could see him now...

[Homeboundcrib]

If only Dorian and Vivienne could see him now...

Hahaha all yes no smartass comments about our hobo apostate. There jaws would be on the ground.

[drosophila]

A part of Solas that I find bizarrely arousing: How in the main game, his sweater is just a little loose and wrinkles around his abs, but in such a way that you know those are some glorious abs underneath. I love those sexy sweater wrinkles.