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I'm almost 40, and one of the reasons Inquisition really hit the spot for me, is that all of the companions in the game except Sera, who is kind of a tagalong anyway, look old enough to be doing the jobs they're doing.

 

I also like Solas because of his maturity, but that's not the only thing, or I'd have been into Blackwall as well (and I'm not) even though physically Blackwall is more my type. Solas just oozes confidence and certainty of purpose and that's really attractive to me (even if he comes with a ton of baggage).

 

One thing I do really like about DA if that you can play a character that feels grown up and having lived a little and had some experience. There's room for the very young Lavellans and room for mine in her early 30s and for those of you with characters in their 40s, whatever you'd like. It's especially refreshing as a woman.

 

Though, it's who someone is that really makes me interested in them so Solas was pretty much perfectly situated to take advantage of that when it came to my Lavellan since Cassandra is straight, but also because Solas worked for the character as well, with her bits of boldness and curious streak..


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It's really interesting to me to see everyne's take on Cole's personal mission because to me, it was a really easy decision for me. I'm not judging anyone else's decision, but Cole is a spirit, he came to help, not to become a human. Mage Cole died. This is an individual spirit in a unique situation, and a rare spirit at that. It is bittersweet, ultimately, but leaving Cole as a spirit was not changing him into something he was not, not forcing him to become something else or for the world to lose another spirit of Compassion.

But then I kept reading people opting for human Cole, which didn't make sense to me and also talking about the decision being hard.

All my opinion, of course.

+1000 Cole feels always.

I made Cole more spirit, because the inquisition already had plenty of human forces, but only one spirit. It didn't make sense to me to give up the resource, and it did turn out to be a useful resource in the future, since spirit Cole made all those important comments in Tresspasser. But that's my reasoning, as I said, I think it's the ultimate grey choice.

Of course the same pragmatic thinking got me to sacrifice the chargers to form an alliance with the Qun. :D

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Sounds like space :lol:.


I had this one fic idea in which Solas saves the elves by building a giant spaceship shaped like a wolf jawbone in which they fly off to colonize another planet. It had a line saying:

"She was beautiful. Unique. Centuries of research and engineering had culminated in her creation. The USS Lavellan was the key to their salvation."

In my defence, I hadn't slept all night when I came up with this.
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My OC has now woke up in Haven and is meeting Solas for the first time.

 

Waking in Dreams

yay reading right now :D *happy dance* 


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Pheh, no way for my Lavellan and if BioWare tries making her do it I will stonefist them! My Lavellan loves Solas, I love Solas, but there are some lines that shall not be crossed and helping him destroy the world, or even letting him, is just a big NOPE for me. If it comes down to it Lavellan would kill Solas, she'd probably be killing a big part of herself too, but as Solas clearly shows her, there is more to life than just him.

 

Amen. To me, "saving Solas" doesn't necessarily mean saving his life, and it certainly doesn't mean saving the romance at all costs. It means stopping him from doing a really horrible thing because you're his friend and you love him. In there, there's the assumption that he's still a good person. My Lavellan and I both need to go forward on that assumption ... whether it turns out to be true or not. That's why his saying he would love to be proven wrong to a friendly quizzy is so hopeful to me. I get why the romance dialogue seems a little more pessimistic in comparison. But I also don't like the notion that a romanced Lavellan cares more about her picket-fence ending with him than she does about his soul. I mean I get it, but still ...


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I made Cole more spirit, because the inquisition already had plenty of human forces, but only one spirit. It didn't make sense to me to give up the resource, and it did turn out to be a useful resource in the future, since spirit Cole made all those important comments in Tresspasser. But that's my reasoning, as I said, I think it's the ultimate grey choice.

Of course the same pragmatic thinking got me to sacrifice the chargers to form an alliance with the Qun. :D

 Ouch! Sacrificing the Chargers. Ugh I just...no I can't Krem! or is it Crem? I can never remember. I couldn't do it. Bull was looking at her like please not my boy. And I just couldn't. But then I hate the idea behind the Qun. On this Solas and I completely agree.



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Ouch! Sacrificing the Chargers. Ugh I just...no I can't Krem! or is it Crem? I can never remember. I couldn't do it. Bull was looking at her like please not my boy. And I just couldn't. But then I hate the idea behind the Qun. On this Solas and I completely agree.


I don't like the Qun either, that didn't mean we couldn't work together on that one objective. As for Krem (or Crem), I love him, great character!
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I don't like the Qun either, that didn't mean we couldn't work together on that one objective. As for Krem (or Crem), I love him, great character!

 

Just want to say I wasn't judging, hope that didn't sound judgy. I love that they made that decision mean something. So few of our decisions seem to have any 'real' impact on the game. It's heartbreaking to see what can happen to Bull if you sacrifice them, but you can't have roses without a few thorns. It added another layer to the feels.



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My fear would be spiders.

 

Spoiler for descriptive experiences with spiders, don't read if stuff like that sets you off.

 

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As for what might be on my Lavellan/Quizzy's tombstone.....Betrayal or Rejection  (Thanks a lot Solas!)

 

Oh, ouch...I always fear that I might fail at killing a spider and then it would jump on me. That's why I always call for someone to kill it for me. I'm even afraid of their dead bodies. Why, oh why such vile creatures exist in this world? :mellow:

As for my Lavellan and her greatest fear... yes, it is Betrayal as well. She always expected it would eventually happen, she knows a thing or two about human nature and the world after all. Hence, she never really admitted her feelings for anyone (I loved the option in Dorian friendship arc- she could say something along the lines that they're best friends, but instead decided to joke about something - she still is his his friend, but she can't just admit it  and that's just the ways she is with  everyone... well, except with Solas most of the time). But expecting that someone would betray her didn't make it hurt less, of course. Poor girl...



I'm so sorry Lavellan, you're my favourite and yet, the most tragic protagonist. :(


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Just want to say I wasn't judging, hope that didn't sound judgy. I love that they made that decision mean something. So few of our decisions seem to have any 'real' impact on the game. It's heartbreaking to see what can happen to Bull if you sacrifice them, but you can't have roses without a few thorns. It added another layer to the feels.


No, not at all! You should judge me more :D
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I have no forum etiquette, so I'm really, really sorry if this is rude or out of line. I just wanted to poke in and say hello-- and that I have loved reading your posts. I am stuck in this massive DA:I / Solas thing. 

 

All of DA is incredible, but the writing of Solas is impeccable. I am an avid gamer and advocate of video games being accepted and treated as a respected art form. Because of this, I have spent a lot of time looking at games from a more academic standpoint vs gamer standpoint. Solas is the best written character I have encountered hands down. In fact, I think his character illustrates the concept of grey-area better than any other personification of such. I am a writer (published non-fiction) that struggles with massive, debilitating depression and have been left feeling "tranquil" for a few years. Solas' arc was so inspiring to me that I've grabbed hold of the obsession wave and am going to ride it as long as it's pushing me to be productive. I have done a bunch of fan art, wrote fan-fiction for the first time ever, and am finishing up a Lavellan costume for a pro photoshoot this Saturday. 

 

Sorry to interrupt and go off topic, but I am so excited to see people who feel the same way I do! Sometimes you just need someone to nerd out with. <3

 

Wow, that is great to hear you've been so inspired personally by DAI and Solas. I have history with depression as well (and the Tranquil have always evoked a lot of horror in me, but that's another topic) and I often feel like stories have saved my life. Video games are becoming art and Bioware is totally on the forefront of this, I think. It's kind of magical to see. I still remember the first time I played DA:Origins, about four years ago now. I would not have called myself a gamer before then. I got invested in my Warden's journey to extent that really surprised me - I had never encountered that outside of books and movies before. I remember thinking to myself that this was an experience I had been waiting to have my whole life and hadn't known it :D

 

I'm a total thread newbie myself, but I already feel like this is the one of the nicest places in the forums to hang out. There are a lot of thoughtful, funny, kind people in here. So welcome :)


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yay reading right now :D *happy dance* 

 

My son hounded me until I relented and posted.

 

Should I make my chapters longer instead of breaking them into 1700-2500 words. I'm a fast reader so it doesn't take me long to read a chapter of that length, but I know others may not read as fast and might wish the chapter would just wrap up already. :)


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Ardent, could you share a link to your thing (if you wish)?

I really like writing comments.

Well, gee I checked out for a couple days due to interwebs problems, but I'd be glad to share a link to my thing. I did just link it to the new BSN Collection, but since you suggested I link...here it is.

Like Sand through the Glass

I finished it in July, so it's terribly non-canon now. I left some things vague hoping that it would somehow stay canon-esque, but I was really into the whole "Solas is a spirit mage" thing so yeah... :P I'm really keen on getting some pointers/criticism. I am terrible with plot or at least moving the plot along gracefully. Reading Looking Glass has me feeling like a literary louse. I really want to write a novel and have for many, many years. I thought the fanfic would help. It did, but it also didn't. I need to work on balancing art with action. Feynite is doing that so well with Looking Glass; I'm terribly jelly. 

 

One thing I do really like about DA if that you can play a character that feels grown up and having lived a little and had some experience. There's room for the very young Lavellans and room for mine in her early 30s and for those of you with characters in their 40s, whatever you'd like. It's especially refreshing as a woman.

 

Though, it's who someone is that really makes me interested in them so Solas was pretty much perfectly situated to take advantage of that when it came to my Lavellan since Cassandra is straight, but also because Solas worked for the character as well, with her bits of boldness and curious streak..

I wholeheartedly agree. I got into gaming in college way back when Knights of the Old Republic was new. I know I'm not in the age demographic most game devs are creating content for. I was surprised so many of the characters in Inquisition were older--surprised but pleased. It's as if Bioware is saying, "Yes, mature adults can kick ass and are interesting people too. Women can be beautiful past 30, and 8 thousand year old men can still fall in love." It'll be a sad day when my player character is the oldest character in a Bioware game. :(

 

I made Cole more spirit, because the inquisition already had plenty of human forces, but only one spirit. It didn't make sense to me to give up the resource, and it did turn out to be a useful resource in the future, since spirit Cole made all those important comments in Tresspasser. But that's my reasoning, as I said, I think it's the ultimate grey choice.

Of course the same pragmatic thinking got me to sacrifice the chargers to form an alliance with the Qun. :D

I also made Cole more of a spirit...more or less because I was seeing Thedas through Egg-colored glasses. Still, I'm glad post Trespasser my Cole is helping the inhabitants of the Fade (and maybe Solas too fingers crossed) rather than honeymooning with Maryden.

 

AND, I too sacrificed the Chargers to keep the alliance with the Qun on my first PT. I was really role playing on that one. That alliance could have been essential to the Inquisition darn it! 


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My son hounded me until I relented and posted.

 

Should I make my chapters longer instead of breaking them into 1700-2500 words. I'm a fast reader so it doesn't take me long to read a chapter of that length, but I know others may not read as fast and might wish the chapter would just wrap up already. :)

I love long detailed chapters, but that's just me. I'm also an extremely fast reader. In the end, it all depends on your purpose of the chapter; did you progress the plot, is there good enough content for a reader to want to know what happens next, does it not feel rushed, etc. Personally, I tend to write small chapters (1,500-2,500 words) and go back and fill them out a bit more to give them more detail and content. Even though they're short, I have a lot happen in them, so it can feel rushed. It's all about execution and content. As long as you meet those well, than you should be fine. 

 

In terms of the length of 1,700-2,500 words, that seems very short to me. The general novel chapter is 5,000 words, and most of the fics I read are around that if not bigger. I write relatively short chapters though, so I shouldn't be talking xd 


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Well, gee I checked out for a couple days due to interwebs problems, but I'd be glad to share a link to my thing. I did just link it to the new BSN Collection, but since you suggested I link...here it is.
Like Sand through the Glass
I finished it in July, so it's terribly non-canon now. I left some things vague hoping that it would somehow stay canon-esque, but I was really into the whole "Solas is a spirit mage" thing so yeah... :P I'm really keen on getting some pointers/criticism. I am terrible with plot or at least moving the plot along gracefully. Reading Looking Glass has me feeling like a literary louse. I really want to write a novel and have for many, many years. I thought the fanfic would help. It did, but it also didn't. I need to work on balancing art with action. Feynite is doing that so well with Looking Glass; I'm terribly jelly.

Thanks! I'll check it out. This weekend well be fic reviewing weekend for me. Beware, I highlight compulsively :P

I tried adding my stuff to the collection but it won't let me.

OK, I'm off to bed.
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I made Cole more spirit, because the inquisition already had plenty of human forces, but only one spirit. It didn't make sense to me to give up the resource, and it did turn out to be a useful resource in the future, since spirit Cole made all those important comments in Tresspasser. But that's my reasoning, as I said, I think it's the ultimate grey choice.

Of course the same pragmatic thinking got me to sacrifice the chargers to form an alliance with the Qun. :D

 

Pragmatism. I went with how it felt, really. Cole wasn't a resource, but a spirit, an individual, not compared with others. I'm sure it's surprising that how the decision felt was a reason for me. :P

 

I was glad though. Spirit Cole has been my only Cole.


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And I could never side with the Qun.

 

*shudder*

 

:P


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I don't write, but can you add Letti to the blanketfort collection on AO3?  :crying: Oh. There's the join button!

Also, how am I supposed to draw with this?!

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I don't write, but can you add Letti to the blanketfort collection on AO3?  :crying:

Also, how am I supposed to draw with this?!

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Step one: Remove the obstruction blocking your view.

Step two: Ignore its protests.


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Step one: Remove the obstruction blocking your view.

Step two: Ignore its protests.

Easier said than done. I poked it and it just cooed and rolled around. XD


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My last bf left me EXACTLY like Solas did, so I am single and not looking. Took my heart with him. I am amazed I managed to get through that romance a year after it happened to me for real. I think it would be adorable for lovers who were Dragon Age fans though.

Hugs.

My last one did it too. I married after that.

Which is probably Mythal's pushing events,considering that the dude left me 8 mo preggo.

Was a delightful year after that. Not.

 

Hey, life sucks sometimes, but hands you both lemons and sugar at the same time.

Wasn't it for my now 9 year old, I wouldn't be where I am.

Playing Solasmance ruffled some feathers (my ex had waist long dreadlocks in a mohawk... remember young Solas art? Rrrr.), but mostly melancholy wise. It would never work out. And we had some great memories formed together. 

 

So, yeah. As I was saying.

Hugs.

I feel your pain, lethallan.


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Ah! I was all happy thinking BW gave me a lovely Trespasser DLC for my 46th birthday. Instead it turned into agony and heartache. :::shakes fist::::
And Kadan, you aren't the only Old kickin' it on this thread. I too started out with an Atari. People act surprised when they learn I'm a gamer and I never understand why. Gen X grew up on them, why would we stop? I don't play everything, but give me a good story and characters and I'm all over it.

It does seem amusing to my son's friends though, which makes me laugh. My sons GF was here once when I was playing DA2. There's the part where you meet Zevran and he throws his dagger into someone's eye. I started laughing and yelled "yeah! In the face!!!" And the GF nearly fell down laughing. From then on they'd just randomly blurt out "In the face!" Around me. So at least it entertains the whippersnappers. Now get off my lawn!

 

Oh, I'm not the oldest anymore! My sister is 46 and she's a gamer too, although I can't seem to get her to finish her DA:O PT,which means she'll probably never be interested in the rest of the series.  She tends to spend her time in MMO's.  I've been gaming since I was 8 years old (42 now) with my Sinclair ZX Spectrum, the days when just loading a game would take an entire afternoon...

 

I think Solas was confirmed as physically in his early 40's last year some time, so it worked well.


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Varric thinks like a friend. His main concern is Cole's desires, what he came in this world to be, his chance to grow be a more complex human being, rather than the simpler (but not inferior!) spirit.

Solas thinks like a leader. He looks at the big picture and how Cole fits in it, as a rate spirit of very gentle nature, as the only spirit in the Inquisition, as a spirit who will be protected by binding if he can shred more of his human side to get the amulet to work, as a spirit that could help many people. For him once again it's pragmatism and the needs of the many outweighing the needs of the few.

 

Not that what you're saying about Solas isn't true generally, but I think that in this case he just understands Cole's needs better.

 

Varric tries to be a friend to everyone, and that's what I love about him. But I think his response to Cole is at least a little coloured by discomfort with Cole's spirit nature. He wants Cole to be more human because that would make it easier for Varric himself to relate to Cole. But how does he know that Cole came across the Veil specifically to be more human? The way I see it, everything Cole does is a function of his compassion. All of it, even the fact that he took on the real Cole's identity. And he still seems much more like a spirit, and with a spirit's needs - the need to express a particular emotion or impulse. Even his fear of being bound seems less for himself and more for the potential harm he could do to others. At least that's my impression of it.

 

Solas has had 'many lasting friendships' with spirits and knows more about them than anyone in the Inquisition, from both an academic and a personal standpoint. They already are people to him and I believe he knows better what their actual needs and desires are. He cares for Cole as much as he does any 'real' person, from what I can see. I'm sure Varric wants the best for Cole, but I think Solas understands more what that 'best' actually is.

 

That's my take on the Cole quest.


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I don't write, but can you add Letti to the blanketfort collection on AO3?  :crying: Oh. There's the join button!

Also, how am I supposed to draw with this?!

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This is why I love cats.

 

When my daughter takes a nap I usually sit down at my computer and think "Whew, little break for me."

 

That's when I will something jump onto the back of my chair and the tickle of whiskers on my cheek. It's hard to get things done with cute things always hanging around. =)


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Edit : Top of the page. It's not Solas, but I thought it would be appropriate!

May I present, Felassan! (She does an awesome version of Abelas too)

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Source : http://artemorte.tum...dom-old-asshole

 

That is beautiful and very hot. *whistles*


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