The only Dragon Age LI ever that I could see myself being in a relationship with were they real is Josephine. She's actually relatively normal. Everybody else is way too out there for my tastes.
It comes with the territory.
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#133701
Posté 10 octobre 2015 - 03:41
#133702
Posté 10 octobre 2015 - 03:42
I miss purple!Hawke. Purple!Hawke said idiotic things, but at least s/he said them on purpose. "What's a Mythal." Seriously
"Solas left to help against the Qunari!"
I mean, no one can blame us for these. It was the writers. Not us. SOME Lavellan's would be that dense, but seriously... just no.
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#133703
Posté 10 octobre 2015 - 03:47
#133704
Posté 10 octobre 2015 - 03:47
Don't know what to tell ya if you're offended, but my statement will stay the same. Chick is slow. Inquisitors in general aren't always the brightest, but even people here know they made Lavellan rather... "young" so to speak.
Optimism often is accompanied with naivety. As for gender, I never said it did. I brought up men simply because Solas is a man.
Just because someone doesn't share your narrow-minded and ill-informed opinion, doesn't mean that they're "slow"!!! What you said was blatantly offensive!
Edit: Go Team Frakkin' Optimism!!! ![]()
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#133705
Posté 10 octobre 2015 - 03:48
"Solas left to help against the Qunari!"
I mean, no one can blame us for these. It was the writers. Not us. SOME Lavellan's would be that dense, but seriously... just no.
Bad choice of writing for a few lines doesn't negate the rest of what's there, seriously.
The Inquisitor doesn't come off as 'young' I am not even sure what that's about. Especially a Lavellan romancing Solas. She's bold and goes after what she wants, she's mature enough to tell him to "take all the time you need", in addition to taking up this role and engaging in heroic actions and navigating politics.
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#133706
Posté 10 octobre 2015 - 03:48
Chill Out Dude!!!
This is a video game, not real life that we're discussing here!!!
And your last statement is both demeaning and illogical based on my real-life and in-game DAI experience...What game have you been playing?!?
? Who's not chill? It being a video game doesn't mean I shouldn't discuss Solavellan's relationship seriously. I'm just defending Solas' part in it.
Bro, we just had a discussion about headcanon and not treating it as fact. Weren't you paying attention?
The part about her being slow is simply observation
It's an opinion, not a headcanon.
#133707
Posté 10 octobre 2015 - 03:49
Oh Colonel...there you go, offending people again. :-P That's like your super power or something.
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#133708
Posté 10 octobre 2015 - 03:50
Just because someone doesn't share your narrow-minded and ill-informed opinion, doesn't mean that they're "slow"!!! What you said was blatantly offensive!
You're again confusing me. I didn't call anyone slow but Lavellan, a fictional character. Gonna ignore the personal insults.
#133709
Posté 10 octobre 2015 - 03:50
The only Dragon Age character ever that I could see myself being in a relationship with were they real is Josephine. She's actually relatively normal. Everybody else is way too out there for my tastes.
It comes with the territory.
Oh, I forgot about Josie. I'd date Perfect Swan Princess ![]()
It is a bit telling, though. I love the character, but I forgot about her romance because the rest of the dating field is full of loonies ![]()
"Solas left to help against the Qunari!"
I mean, no one can blame us for these. It was the writers. Not us. SOME Lavellan's would be that dense, but seriously... just no.
Meanwhile, behold the wit and wisdom of Purple!Hawke:
If you're going to be daft, at least have the decency to be funny too ![]()
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#133710
Posté 10 octobre 2015 - 03:51
Oh Colonel...there you go, offending people again. :-P That's like your super power or something.
It's a gift lol. Not like I'm the first person here to say this about how Bioware made Lavellan.
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#133711
Posté 10 octobre 2015 - 03:51
The only Dragon Age LI ever that I could see myself being in a relationship with were they real is Josephine. She's actually relatively normal. Everybody else is way too out there for my tastes.
It comes with the territory.
Nah, I gotta admit, if I could date Alistair in real life, I'd lock that ass down. And then I'd proceed to be hopelessly insecure because why be with me when he could be with literally anyone else.
But besides that, he's great! Nice sense of humor, immature like me, bit of a whiner, but hey, I'm easy-going. And he's not too bright so I don't have to feel super intimidated and inferior like I probably would with Solas.
Yeah, Alistair - there's the sort of man you stay up til three in the morning watching dumb cartoons with.
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#133712
Posté 10 octobre 2015 - 03:54
Oh, I forgot about Josie. I'd date Perfect Swan Princess
Mandatory post about how much I love Josephine. Would date the Swan Princess of Awesome too.
#133713
Posté 10 octobre 2015 - 03:54
You're again confusing me. I didn't call anyone slow but Lavellan, a fictional character. Gonna ignore the personal insults.
Remind me what's so inherently slow about her again? If we're talking Mythal temple, come on. You can't hold writer screwups against the poor elfy!
If you're saying going after Solas at all makes her slow, that also is a matter of your headcanon about the character. And not choosing the more questionable dialogue choices.
Not everyone played her like she had no clue something was going on with Solas. Personally, mine sensed something real between them and even though it was clear Solas was hiding something, she wanted to see if they could develop something real and good in their relationship, and then be open with each other eventually. And if it couldn't get to that point, well they'd end it. It's not like she promised herself to him and threw her life and soul into her love for him when she decided to pursue a relationship.
She still thinks she can help him seek redemption. Which isn't such a slow idea, from what I know from a meta perspective alone!
Heck, going that route might just be smarter than all out attacking him. Considering how powerful he is, at this point changing his mind seems like the easier task than fighting him. But she would have tried that with Solas even if she wasn't in a romance with him. She's a big goshdarned hero, she can help save him! Maybe.
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#133714
Posté 10 octobre 2015 - 03:57
Mandatory post about how much I love Josephine. Would date the Swan Proncess of Awesome too.
Bah, out of likes again ![]()
Nah, I gotta admit, if I could date Alistair in real life, I'd lock that ass down. And then I'd proceed to be hopelessly insecure because why be with me when he could be with literally anyone else.
But besides that, he's great! Nice sense of humor, immature like me, bit of a whiner, but hey, I'm easy-going. And he's not too bright so I don't have to feel super intimidated and inferior like I probably would with Solas.
I like Alistair, but I feel like we'd end up being friends instead of dating. Despite being the thread twelve-year-old, I don't handle Alistair's particular brand of immaturity very well in relationships. My ex was a bit like that, and it drove me insane.
Now, give me DA:I Alistair, and I will be all over that ![]()
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#133715
Posté 10 octobre 2015 - 03:58
Hares and Bears rhyme even without your accent.
I thought North Americans pronounced beer, bare and bear differently? We pronounce them all the same
(same with hair, here and hare).
if a man warns you that things might go bad ladies, listen. He's not just saying it to seem edgy
I am going to be SO suspicious of every little bit of angsty dialogue in future Bioware romances. Next game I'm gonna line up the mages and elves and think, which one of you is it this time?
I miss purple!Hawke. Purple!Hawke said idiotic things, but at least s/he said them on purpose. "What's a Mythal." Seriously
Isn't the 2nd option on the dialogue wheel basically the purple option? It seems like the first one is generally nice, and the third is aggressive or to the point.
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#133716
Posté 10 octobre 2015 - 03:59
It's a gift lol. Not like I'm the first person here to say this about how Bioware made Lavellan.
Oh dear god, not every Lavellan even romances Solas. If they do, it's their choice. One of my Lavellans is with him and she's not a spring chicken, she's not stupid, she is very emotionally attached to him, though, just like she is to the rest of her family.
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#133717
Posté 10 octobre 2015 - 03:59
Bad choice of writing for a few lines doesn't negate the rest of what's there, seriously.
The Inquisitor doesn't come off as 'young' I am not even sure what that's about. Especially a Lavellan romancing Solas. She's bold and goes after what she wants, she's mature enough to tell him to "take all the time you need", in addition to taking up this role and engaging in heroic actions and navigating politics.
I agree on both counts. It helps that I played my Lavellan close to 40 and certainly experienced about things in the world, but it felt like a decent bit of headcanon had to be in place to play one as being young and shy or inexperienced. Even my much younger Adaar didn't come across as naive by way of the game.
I guess with the romance and all the warnings Solas gave, someone could have their character being young and not experienced enough to recognize the clear signs in the face of new love, but it's just as likely they could be like mine -- yep, things might not end well, but that's fine. Let's have what we can anyway. It's worth the eventual (inevitable) end.
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#133718
Posté 10 octobre 2015 - 04:01
Isn't the 2nd option on the dialogue wheel basically the purple option? It seems like the first one is generally nice, and the third is aggressive or to the point.
It's "clever." And therefore insufficiently trollish, inappropriate, or downright ridiculous to be worthy of the glory that is Purple!Hawke ![]()
The DA:I standard dialogue wheel is basically a defanged version of DA2's. I can understand why they did it, but personally, I prefer DA2's. I know I'm in the minority there, but if I'm going to have tone influence my dialogue, I prefer full ham
Also why I like Renegade ManShep so much.
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#133719
Posté 10 octobre 2015 - 04:03
You're again confusing me. I didn't call anyone slow but Lavellan, a fictional character. Gonna ignore the personal insults.
It certainly seemed like you were insulting the intelligence and/or opinion of any person that chooses to play as a Lavellan romancing Solas. I apologize if that is not the case.
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#133720
Posté 10 octobre 2015 - 04:07
Remind me what's so inherently slow about her again? If we're talking Mythal temple, come on. You can't hold writers screwups against the poor elfy!
If you're saying going after Solas at all makes her slow, that also is a matter of your headcanon about the character. And not choosing the more questionable dialogue choices.
Not everyone played her like she had no clue something was going on with Solas. Personally, mine sensed something real between them and even though it was clear Solas was hiding something, she wanted to see if they could develop something real and good in their relationship, and then be open with each other eventually. And if it couldn't get to that point, well they'd end it. It's not like she promised herself to him and threw her life and soul into her love for him when she decided to pursue a relationship.
She still thinks she can help him seek redemption. Which isn't such a slow idea, from what I know from a meta perspective alone!
But she would have tried that with Solas even if she wasn't in a romance with him. She's a big goshdarned hero, she can help save him! Maybe.
I don't think ignoring dialogue options that the writers put in for you means its reliant on a headcanon but that's a debate for another day I suppose. Put it this way, I see it as this. There's the writer's intended way of writing Lavellans and the player's idea and how they play them. Sometimes, no matter what, there are things that a player simply can't ignore when looking at their character while some you can. I for instance like to think of my character as intelligent and competent, but we were all fooled in trespasser by spies, so I have to accept that my character isn't so infallible, whether I like that or not. I could maybe make a headcanon excuse, but at the end of the day, I know there's a clear conflict of interests between my intended character, and what the developers laid on the foundation.
You don't have to click on the dialogue options, but they're there. And for a reason. When talking about "Lavellan" in general, they should be taken into consideration. It would be different if the dialogue choices made a drastic difference in character like with Hawke, but quizzy seems much more balanced.
#133721
Posté 10 octobre 2015 - 04:08
I am going to be SO suspicious of every little bit of angsty dialogue in future Bioware romances. Next game I'm gonna line up the mages and elves and think, which one of you is it this time?
And then you'll pick 'em anyway right?
I know, I romanced Morrigan and Merrill.
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#133722
Posté 10 octobre 2015 - 04:09
My Lavellan's opinion on the matter.
(She's not blond, she's ginger, but no matter.)
But there's much better things to focus on: I'm off to read and write detailed comments on as many fics as I can before the weekend ends. *holds highlighter and smiles fiendishly*
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#133723
Posté 10 octobre 2015 - 04:11
It certainly seemed like you were insulting the intelligence and/or opinion of any person that chooses to play as a Lavellan romancing Solas. I apologize if that is not the case.
That's because people don't like it when their chosen characters are bad mouthed. I'm no different, though I dont take it personally.
Apology accepted.
#133724
Posté 10 octobre 2015 - 04:13
Pheh, video game romance warnings are worth sh*t.
And on Lavellan's side it was Solas saying,
"I want to see your focus dominated!"
*Goes to the Fade*
"You change everything."
*Very passionate kiss on Solas's part*
"Here is my half-arsed we shouldn't do this warning. Just letting you know, k?"
All his objections and even his break up was very half-arsed. There are some huge mixed signals being sent.
Especially since one of those "we shouldn't do this, it'll lead to trouble" happens while he's shoving his tongue down Lavellan's throat.
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#133725
Posté 10 octobre 2015 - 04:13
I don't think ignoring dialogue options that the writers put in for you means its reliant on a headcanon but that's a debate for another day I suppose. Put it this way, I see it as this. There's the writer's intended way of writing Lavellans and the player's idea and how they play them. Sometimes, no matter what, there are things that a player simply can't ignore when looking at their character while some you can. I for instance like to think of my character as intelligent and competent, but we were all fooled in trespasser by spies, so I have to accept that my character isn't so infallible, whether I like that or not. I could maybe make a headcanon excuse, but at the end of the day, I know there's a clear conflict of interests between my intended character, and what the developers laid on the foundation.
You don't have to click on the dialogue options, but they're there. And for a reason. When talking about "Lavellan" in general, they should be taken into consideration. It would be different if the dialogue choices made a drastic difference in character like with Hawke, but quizzy seems much more balanced.
By this logic, our Inquisitors are every personality under the sun just because there are many different dialogue options present in the game. Are they all of them just because those options exist? There's a reason they give you a choice of dialogue: RPing. Just because the options are perceived as being less varied than Hawke's doesn't mean they don't represent different personality choices.
Even despite all this, there's no dialogue option pertaining to Lavellan's motivation towards getting involved with the Solas romance, or really about her inner feelings on him in general. That's the point in the romance that you have to fill in on your own, and that's where it just becomes your personal headcanon. If you want to headcanon that Lavellan thought nothing at all was wrong with Solas, do that. If you want to say she did, do that. Neither are wrong and neither are right.
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