Priceless.
This is awesome!
I am out of likes again, but NeverlandHunter
great job!
Thanks! I see the thread broke out into heated discussion while I was busy 
. I can't leave you guys alone for a second!
My Sebastian one came out weird because I quoted from the internet 
oh well, he's the odd man out anyway. He's just lucky I remembered him!
Mandatory post about how much I love Josephine. Would date the Swan Princess of Awesome too.
I wish I didn't relate to her as much as I do because that makes the game romance weird but for real life, I'd have to say Josephine or you know, DAI Cullen. I never liked Cullen until DAI but yes, DAI Cullen. Cute, sweet, deeply caring, fluffy hair, loves dogs.
Solas doing his goofy thing right there is too good to pass up. But as you said, just because there are dialogue options there doesn't mean you have to take them. Mine never asked Dorian what "company of men" meant because well, she's bi and doesn't need an explanation about same sex attraction. Just an example. But also the Mythal question. She had Mythal's vallaslin, so that wasn't really a question she'd ask.
As far as exhausting dialogue - I mean if a choice isn't in character, and it isn't my first run, I don't pick that option.
Character stuff -
The dating thing is awesome, Hunter
Regarding Solas and dating, in my eyes it's Lavellan who initiates, and he warns few times. It's sad and heartbreaking, but people are allowed to move on.
Question off topic, for writers here and readers.
I've finally started my fanfic after mullng over it few weeks. Put my OC in notes to remember, and did the first chapter draft yesterday I write on mobile, need to put it on my PC, somehow I have feeling of mobile not giving enough perspective... somehow.
Anyway.
How do you feel about... ambiguity?
I am not fully fleshing up the starting events (it is still a draft though. And it will need a lot of correction, due to me being nonnative speaker).
I did not introduce my OC by name yet (as I intend for her to be using a nickname most of the fic), and did not really say how she got into Thedas (yes, onene of those universe and world travesting heroines).
It might sound good to me as I enjoy that kind of writing, but the audience might not agree.
Not that I would fully modify, but I'd taken it into account.
Anyone interested in reviewing my next chapter? I wasn't all that happy with the last one but posted it anyway, hopefully this one fills in the rest of her thoughts. Trouble is I've read and re-read it dozens of times I need a new perspective.
Anyone interested in reviewing my next chapter? I wasn't all that happy with the last one but posted it anyway, hopefully this one fills in the rest of her thoughts. Trouble is I've read and re-read it dozens of times I need a new perspective.
I could. I'm making good progress reading tonight 
I'm not going to re-quote or name any names here, but equating optimism with naivety...HAH!
...It makes me wanna whap someone over the head with my "old-lady" cane!!!
Figuratively speaking, of course...I am really non-violent...But some people seem to have no clue about or respect for those they're talking to...
Yup
And calling a Lavellan played in a certain way "slow" is very rude. Slow is your nose!
Hey guys, apologies for jumping in. I haven't read the latest pages but something's been bugging me and you guys are great at explaining things for me, so I'd love to get some perspective on this.
Anyway, what's with the whole "power balance" issue between Solas and Lavellan, and why is it so damn important? I'm seeing it mentioned a lot on Tumblr right now, and I just don't get it. Why is it not just enough for people to love each other and to be good to each other and, as far as I saw, that's exactly what the romance was?* Am I insensitive in thinking that people are spending way too much time on this? I know that's pretty rich coming from me considering I spend a good portion of my time obsessing on this fandom, but I just don't get how people are content to think on something so much they turn it into a negative.
I'm probably just being naive. x)
Edit: *All lies and the likes aside, but I support Solas keeping his identity as Fen'Harel hidden from everyone. His evil plans, not so much, but I have a pretty good idea on where he is in his head so I don't share any antagonism towards him.
Anyone interested in reviewing my next chapter? I wasn't all that happy with the last one but posted it anyway, hopefully this one fills in the rest of her thoughts. Trouble is I've read and re-read it dozens of times I need a new perspective.
If you need anyone else for tomorrow etc., I'd be happy to help if I can, so let me know. It's getting late here...so I probably won't be coherent enough (and will be switching to my iPad) to be of any use tonight, sorry...And even now I'm having trouble constructing a sentence...Uggggg 
My Lavellan's opinion on the matter.
Spoiler
(She's not blond, she's ginger, but no matter.)
But there's much better things to focus on: I'm off to read and write detailed comments on as many fics as I can before the weekend ends. *holds highlighter and smiles fiendishly*
Just out of lurking to say for a minute, I love this! Will come in handy irl!
I love reading all your theories and ideas about Solas & his relationship with Lavellan. Especially since everyone has their own opinion/understand and take on things and given me a few "oh yeah, never thought/saw it like that before". It's help me understand my own feelings reactions to what happened not just with his character but how my Lavellan would react/cope/understand what's gone on. So thanks I think I've stop obsessing over the last scene together.
My cannon PT was always going to be TrevxCullen (generally play as humans) but thinking that I might just have to duel cannons because I grown very attached to my Lavellen but still love my Trev
Just out of lurking to say for a minute, I love this! Will come in handy irl!
I love reading all your theories and ideas about Solas & his relationship with Lavellan. Especially since everyone has their own opinion/understand and take on things and given me a few "oh yeah, never thought/saw it like that before". It's help me understand my own feelings reactions to what happened not just with his character but how my Lavellan would react/cope/understand what's gone on. So thanks
My cannon PT was always going to be TrevxCullen (generally play as humans) but thinking that I might just have to duel cannons because I grown very attached to my Lavellen but still love my Trev
I couldn't abandon my Trevelyan even after getting pulled into the Solas universe so have decided to cover both of them in my story. Trevelyan is the Herald, the other is an OC. Hopefully I haven't put too much pressure on myself to write them both. I was going to do two separate stories, but ultimately decided it would just start with when they find the OC.
That's the joy of head-cannon and fanfic, you can have your cake and eat it too. 
Anyway, what's with the whole "power balance" issue between Solas and Lavellan, and why is it so damn important? I'm seeing it mentioned a lot on Tumblr right now, and I just don't get it. Why is it not just enough for people to love each other and to be good to each other and, as far as I saw, that's exactly what the romance was?* Am I insensitive in thinking that people are spending way too much time on this? I know that's pretty rich coming from me considering I spend a good portion of my time obsessing on this fandom, but I just don't get how people are content to think on something so much they turn it into a negative.
Oh, it's Tumblr, so it's probably getting blown out of proportion to what's actually in-game 
But the short answer is that Solas enters into the relationship knowing everything about the situation (he has a duty, he's Fen'Harel, he gave Cory the orb, etc.), but Lavellan does not. So there's an imbalance between what they know. And that (for some players) translates into a power imbalance in the relationship since Solas is essentially the one holding the cards.
IMO? There's so little in-game content for him anyway. The imbalance between what they know is present, but it's as important as you want it to be. And fandom can turn something as innocuous as Cullen's love of dogs into a negative--just give it a month or two 
Well no Mass Effect examples because i haven't played, but all those romances could end up happy even if they have inbetween drama! Video game romance warnings aren't worth any credibility
Yes, they can end up happy. They also have a higher chance of ending disastrously. So when the next apostate mage LI says this could be a problem, I think I'll take them at their word Not enough to stop playing the romance, but enough to take note. It's not like any of them were lying to you when they said things could turn out poorly.
I wish I didn't relate to her as much as I do because that makes the game romance weird but for real life, I'd have to say Josephine or you know, DAI Cullen. I never liked Cullen until DAI but yes, DAI Cullen. Cute, sweet, deeply caring, fluffy hair, loves dogs.
I thought he was cute with the mage origin *.* not so much in DA2 when he's tanding back (yes I know it's not his fault) and letting all the abuse that's happening at gallows happen. My Hawke was bitter about that, I'm not. It's my Hawke's feelz.
Are you still going to that meet up tomorrow Cee? It was you that posted about, right? Sometimes with all the people posting it's hard to keep track.
Edit: I guess it would actually be today.
I'm calling it a night. I've been up too late too many nights this week. I blame Solas, and Best Elf, and Ululenia for all the Fade visits that make me want to write.
Yes, they can end up happy. They also have a higher chance of ending disastrously. So when the next apostate mage LI says this could be a problem, I think I'll take them at their word
Ah, but it's like as much a part of the game as the weird hair, and the awkward limb movements. I don't expect the awkward limb movements to mean there's actually something wrong with a character, I'd just assume that it's like all the previous times I've seen it!
I'm full of crazy analogies tonight!
Edit: Top!
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I'm calling it a night. I've been up too late too many nights this week. I blame Solas, and Best Elf, and Ululenia for all the Fade visits that make me want to write.
Goodnight Kadan! Sleep well.
I wish I didn't relate to her as much as I do because that makes the game romance weird but for real life, I'd have to say Josephine or you know, DAI Cullen. I never liked Cullen until DAI but yes, DAI Cullen. Cute, sweet, deeply caring, fluffy hair, loves dogs.
Ah, but it's like as much a part of the game as the weird hair, and the awkward limb movements. I don't expect the awkward limb movements to mean there's actually something wrong with a character, I'd just assume that it's like all the previous times I've seen it!
See, I'm paranoid after all these CRPGs And I guess it worked out in Solas's case; I was braced for bad, though honestly, that didn't make it hurt less. It just hurt differently.
I thought he was cute with the mage origin *.* not so much in DA2 when he's tanding back (yes I know it's not his fault) and letting all the abuse that's happening at gallows happen. My Hawke was bitter about that, I'm not. It's my Hawke's feelz.
So here's where I admit that I really did not get the Cullen love until DA:I, and in fact, my Amell was horrible to him. She was kind of the James Potter/Sirius Black of the Circle tower. Ace student and good at heart, but an arrogant little toerag. She resented the templars, and made fun of Cullen for his infatuation because she thought watching him stutter all over himself was hilarious.
That behavior...seriously came back to bite her during Broken Circle
Hey guys, apologies for jumping in. I haven't read the latest pages but something's been bugging me and you guys are great at explaining things for me, so I'd love to get some perspective on this.
Anyway, what's with the whole "power balance" issue between Solas and Lavellan, and why is it so damn important? I'm seeing it mentioned a lot on Tumblr right now, and I just don't get it. Why is it not just enough for people to love each other and to be good to each other and, as far as I saw, that's exactly what the romance was?* Am I insensitive in thinking that people are spending way too much time on this? I know that's pretty rich coming from me considering I spend a good portion of my time obsessing on this fandom, but I just don't get how people are content to think on something so much they turn it into a negative.
I'm probably just being naive. x)
Edit: *All lies and the likes aside, but I support Solas keeping his identity as Fen'Harel hidden from everyone. His evil plans, not so much, but I have a pretty good idea on where he is in his head so I don't share any antagonism towards him.
Well, I suppose while he's still trying to fix the breach, the power imbalance isn't so pronounced, they seem like they are on relatively equal footing, and Solas doesn't do anything to dissuade her from that idea. You might even think he likes being thought of as some innocuous apostate hobo elf.
Then, for much of the game, she does have the power, and he has to depend on her to help him. And then in Trespasser, he reveals he is literally a several thousands year old demi-god who ruined the world - and is going to kill her and everyone she loves (possibly including even himself) to change it back. He has the power now, and she has to scrape at his feet and try to beg him not to do the thing.
The power balance thing is important, because it keeps one partner from taking advantage of the other, or from feeling resentful or used or even utterly dependent on them inside the relationship.
Edit: I'm not sure if this makes sense, because I am super tired, but I'm going to leave it up anyway.
Well. It may have been a poor decision on his part, what with the whole elf god thing and not telling anyone, but it doesn't bother me since once you do know you have the option of breaking up with him or continuing the romance. Which means that however you shake it, Lavellan can now make a wholehearted decision depending on who she is as a character and what she wants. Destruction of the known world notwithstanding.
I think it's the key moment where you really know if you can accept the whole person or care only for the part you did know.
In some ways, the Trespasser reveal is only the beginning of getting to know who Solas is, from Lavellan's perspective at least. Even for the player, you're forced to ask yourself how much of the Solas you knew was real. I ended up concluding that a lot was - but even so, finding out his plans does change a lot of what you knew of him before. It's not just a case of adding 'more' to his character.
There's knowing acceptance, there's blind acceptance, and there's taking a leap of faith. In my mind, choosing 'redeem' is the leap of faith. It's counting on there being enough good in Solas that he's worth trying to save, whether you succeed or not. That's my Lavellan's choice. Even so, she's effectively given up on the romance (though not the love) for the moment because it matters much more to her to save the idea of who she thought he was. Post-Trespasser, she would have to be questioning her own judgement a lot. I remember during my main game playthrough - pre-reveal - thinking to myself that I hoped Solas wouldn't turn out to be 'evil'... it was just a passing thought. I didn't actually think he'd become a villain, but there's a reason I had the thought in the first place. Sometimes he's just a little too mysterious and reacts to things in an odd way. I headcanon that my Lavellan was often frustrated and confused by his behaviour but saw enough that was definitely good and lovely about him that she wanted to take a chance and keep getting to know him.
We're still being asked to take that chance, in my opinion. We don't know everything about Solas yet. My Lavellan is having to wrestle with the fact that if she's honest, she may have been really wrong about fundamental aspects of his character. It would never have occured to her that he saw her and their friends as anything less than people. His behaviour suggested the exact opposite - that he saw everyone as an individual of fundamental worth. She never thought he'd be willing to destroy a world - his anger at the Wardens, his disdain for Morrigan's eagerness to drink the Well, not to mention the fact that he's helping you against Corypheus, all indicated that he found 'at all costs' types arrogant and contemptible. She never thought of him as the kind of person who would decide that he knew what was best for everyone - see his deep antipathy to the Qun. And she believed that his anger at the Dalish actually meant that he cared deeply about the plight of elves. (And he does, just not necessarily modern elves.) All these things formed her basic understanding of the person she fell for. All are being called into serious question.
It's on a different level than, say, Blackwall, or Zevran's past with Rinna. I romanced Zevran, and never really had trouble accepting with his past, because it didn't shake my view of him as a fundamentally good person - if anything, learning about his regret confirmed it for me. Same with Blackwall.
We may not know the whole story with Solas yet, and I still believe he's really good at heart. But he may also have a flaw that makes it impossible to co-exist with him. My Lavellan may have to accept that, in order to be true to herself. And I may have to accept that about Solas in order to do justice to his character. 
I'm sorry if all this comes off as terribly pessimistic. I still count myself on Team Optimism, but I understand if y'all want nothing to do with me
See, I'm paranoid after all these CRPGs
So here's where I admit that I really did not get the Cullen love until DA:I, and in fact, my Amell was horrible to him. She was kind of the James Potter/Sirius Black of the Circle tower. Ace student and good at heart, but an arrogant little toerag. She resented the templars, and made fun of Cullen for his infatuation because she thought watching him stutter all over himself was hilarious.
That behavior...seriously came back to bite her during Broken Circle
-.- I rushed through the game after the Crestwood scene waiting for the moment we'd get back together. I thought Solas was pulling a Fenris, or a Zevran! That's what fricking male elves do! They break up with you, then you have an emotional moment and **HAPPILY EVER FRIGGIN' AFTER**
Aw, poor Cullen. Your Amell was mean!!
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Can I just ask, where did you find this? My friend loves it and wants to get herself a copy (buy)
UGH. I need to go to bed!
Goodnight!
-.- I rushed through the game after the Crestwood scene waiting for the moment we'd get back together. I thought Solas was pulling a Fenris, or a Zevran! That's what fricking male elves do! They break up with you, then you have an emotional moment and **HAPPILY EVER FRIGGIN' AFTER**
Oh I was the same, the end of the game was rather anti-climatic because of this. I skipped the party and went straight to my room in tears, it was awful..
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