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[Wulfram]

Can I just ask, where did you find this? My friend loves it and wants to get herself a copy (buy)

It was posted by one of Bioware's artists on tumblr. I guess you'd have to persuade Bioware to start selling it.
http://nthornborrow....w-tarot-cards-i

[Tales2tellu]

Guys, help.

So I've read all of Feynite’s stuff on Ao3 and now I'm addicted. I've started drawing things based on the newest fic, Looking Glass, while I wait for more chapters. And it's great, my art is improving (I think), it's helping me work through the Solavellan feelings....

But it's late, I have to work in the morning, and I just want to draw more fanart of Looking Glass!

What is this fic, LYRIUM?!

[Tanyara]

I'll just leave this here.

From here (There is a download link.  )

Ohgod! I just discovered this one too:

From here

*slinks back into the shadows*

 

May be a unpopular opinion, but here I go

 

I cringe a little bit almost every time he speaks elven   They way he pronounces it is weird (language, pronounciation and intonation freak here), you can really hear that it is a made up language. GDL separates the words to much, so there no music to the language plus that you sometimes hear a very distinct english accent.The spectral sentinels and Lavellan has much better pronounciation imo. And the way Viddasala pronounces orders in qunlat mostly sounds awesome.

 

The way GDL pronounces "Ar lath ma vhenan" is good, but the flow isn't there. He basically says: Ar. Lath. Ma. Vhenan. whereas in real languages there is always a certain blending of the words so it sounds more like Arlathmavhenan.

Not that is has to be said quickly, but the flow makes the words "bleed" into eachother a bit.

 

For example: In written text the words are clearly separated, like "I love you". But when someone actually pronounces it, it is more like Iloveyou. This phenomenon usually becomes apparent when you hear a language that you don't know - you have no idea which syllables and sounds that makes up separate words, it just sounds like a string of sounds. *ends lecture*  *hides*

[MayriyaNoori]

My bestie romanced Cullen, and after meeting Solas in Trespasser, she was also very confused

 

I won't say it's easier if you know the heartbreak is coming.  It's not, and in some ways, it hurts even more than going in naive.  But it's a wonderful story and RP experience.  Besides, there's nothing that says you can only love one character.  I adored both Alistair and Zev in DA:O.  

 

EDIT: relevant Zev is...not relevant, but I still wanted to post him

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source: http://mezamero.deviantart.com/

*wakes up and logs onto thread*

 

Zevran is always relevant.

 

Always.

 

That's all I can really say before a cup of coffee......

[Caddius]

*wakes up and logs onto thread*

 

Zevran is always relevant.

 

Always.

 

That's all I can really say before a cup of coffee......

Hey, if we need an elf to charm his way into infiltrating Solas's elf allies, Zevran could do the trick...

[Garnet]

May be a unpopular opinion, but here I go

 

I cringe a little bit almost every time he speaks elven   They way he pronounces it is weird (language, pronounciation and intonation freak here), you can really hear that it is a made up language. GDL separates the words to much, so there no music to the language plus that you sometimes hear a very distinct english accent.The spectral sentinels and Lavellan has much better pronounciation imo. And the way Viddasala pronounces orders in qunlat mostly sounds awesome.

 

The way GDL pronounces "Ar lath ma vhenan" is good, but the flow isn't there. He basically says: Ar. Lath. Ma. Vhenan. whereas in real languages there is always a certain blending of the words so it sounds more like Arlathmavhenan.

Not that is has to be said quickly, but the flow makes the words "bleed" into eachother a bit.

 

For example: In written text the words are clearly separated, like "I love you". But when someone actually pronounces it, it is more like Iloveyou. This phenomenon usually becomes apparent when you hear a language that you don't know - you have no idea which syllables and sounds that makes up separate words, it just sounds like a string of sounds. *ends lecture*  *hides*

I can hear what you mean. He does tend to separate his elven and.. over-pronounce it, I guess...? You can kind of tell it's being read. I think it's less noticeable in-game. It's not a big deal to me, though. I enjoy the sound of his voice and I love it when Solas talks elfy to me. 

Abelas' elven does sound a little more "flowy" so it's probably not an ancient elf thing. Just a Solas thing.

GDL did a phenomenal job conveying Solas' emotions which is the more impressive part, imo.

[Shari'El]

But she was already ensnared by luuuuuv. I'm not saying Lavellan still can't make the decision, because now she can. But her initial choice was based off of misdirection. It's like if you were to buy a dog, who you thought to be healthy, and a few months after you got him you found out he had cancer (the previous owners knew this but omissed it). You've grown attached to the dog now, and it is your decision to keep him, but you probably wouldn't have gotten him if you'd have known. Why suffer through all that future heartbreak and pain? What the previous owners did was wrong. They should of let you know what you were getting into. 

 

I know this post is 6 pages old but I wanted to chip in.

 

Two years ago my boyfriend and I adopted two kittens from a shelter (two brothers), we named them Chai & Chili.

When adopting from this shelter they had us sign a form that makes us oblige to have the adopted animals neutered when they're old enough.

We put a ton of love when we cared for them, two months in when they were 3 months the shelter's asked us to come to have them castrated, we were supposed to put them in the morning and take them home in the afternoon.

On that day, my boyfriend came along with a friend (to help him carry two cages), needless to say - he returned home with only one.

I remember the phone call, he called me to tell me Chili died (he was just laying in the cage, nobody even noticed he stopped breathing), at first I thought he was joking, how could a cat die from castration? The postmortem operation made it clear that there was a problem with his heart and it just stopped, it was unclear whether he was sensitive to the anesthetic (that's what they say at the shelter) or over-dosed (he was treated by a junior). I was MAD and utterly devastated.

Would I have done anything different if I had known it would end this way? Yes, I would've taken him to my veterinarian, or outright refuse to have him neutered. If it was a heart flaw or sensitivity then it probably would've killed him later in life, either way, I never regretted adopting him, even if my heart broke.

I loved him, he was happy. He had a good life, even if was really short.

After his death we adopted a new cat, so Chai wouldn't be alone (it was a hard thing to do, because we didn't want to just replace him, he was our child), her name is Cheetah. She is originally from the street, a week into her adoption we had to take her to the vet, she couldn't control her bladder. After the second appointment the vet noticed her heavy breathing and offered a scan, after the scan she was diagnosed with hiatus hernia, apparently she was involved in a car accident when she was on the streets. We were offered to take a chance and make her go under the knife and to repair her hernia. I was scared I'll lose another cat, when I agreed to pay 500$+ on a surgery for a kitten I owned for a week+ people were shocked, the vet himself was shocked because he said her chances were low. She survived, because I didn't give up on her, two years later and she lives happily with Chai in our household. The death of Chili still stings, even after two years, but it gave us the opportunity to save another cat, people kept saying how lucky she is that she got to us because other people would've given up on her.

 

The idea of not adopting an animal just because they were sick, it really bothered me, so I felt compelled to write this long-ish post.

It doesn't matter if they are dying, adopting them gives them a shot at saving them, and if not that, at least live happily with the time left to them.

[MayriyaNoori]

Hey, if we need an elf to charm his way into infiltrating Solas's elf allies, Zevran could do the trick...

Lol, that should be part 3 to my Solas Recruiting Zevran banter write ups.

[Colonelkillabee]

And now this is basically negating any criticism of your argument by calling players too sensitive instead of maybe looking at all of our critical explorations of this matter.
 
Many times on this thread we have been critical of some of the decisions like the Mythal question and some of the other aspects, but if you disagree with someone's opinion, dismissing the opinion holders/players as essentially too sensitive to handle criticism of their characters is also pretty disrespectful.

 
Please:
 

Just because someone doesn't share your narrow-minded and ill-informed opinion, doesn't mean that they're "slow"!!! What you said was blatantly offensive!
 
 
Edit: Go Team Frakkin' Optimism!!!

 

This? This IS too sensitive, sorry. Especially when I didn't call anyone but the fictional character slow and Figment jumps the gun and says I called you this, while insulting me. Obviously she's likely not the only one taking my opinion personally.
 
 

I'm not going to re-quote or name any names here, but equating optimism with naivety...HAH!
 
...It makes me wanna whap someone over the head with my "old-lady" cane!!!
 
 
 
Figuratively speaking, of course...I am really non-violent...But some people seem to have no clue about or respect for those they're talking to...

*rolls eyes*
 
Please. First of all:
 
 

Optimism often is accompanied with naivety. As for gender, I never said it did. I brought up men simply because Solas is a man.

"Often accompanied with" isn't equating optimism TO naivety. Again you jump the gun and prove too sensitive. As for respect, holding back an opinion and going easy on you or others in my eyes isn't respectful. Quite the opposite.

[Colonelkillabee]

Yup
 
And calling a Lavellan played in a certain way "slow" is very rude. Slow is your nose!

If that's what yall think is rude, you've lived very sheltered lives, lol. Anyway, I didn't call ones "played in a certain way" slow, but the general character. You can roleplay a specific character to be different than what bioware has provided you to bypass their intentions in your headcanon. I'm not judging people's specific characters, but the one bioware seems to have given.

[Illyria]

Okay, I have to spam you guys and share this because I am so excited-- I finished my Lavellan costume o__________o

 

Sorry for the really bad lighting in my studio. I am getting pro-photos tomorrow. (not pictured, bow, quiver, bracers, boots and belt/skirt made of "wolf pelts.")

 

eeeee

 

Okay, sorry. /Goes back to lurking

 

 

 

Edit- Here is the skirt/belt and thing without coat. 

 

 

So talented!
 

[Aneira]

A little late to the party, but sometimes I do have to sleep.

 

Exactly. Just because there is an option to ask 'What's a Mythal?" doesn't mean I clicked it! My Trevelyan did because, emmm what is a mythal? would be running through her head since she knows nothing about the elven gods. But my Lavellan wouldn't ask such a stupid question. She did however ask if Varric was with the Chantry, I mean how was a Dalish elf supposed to know that couldn't be the case. Plus I love to watch Solas laugh in that scene.

 

Especially since there was a dwarf in DA:O who wanted to open a chantry in Orzammar. So: Totally legit question.

And I also choose this option all the time to hear the cucklesnort.

 

Regarding Cullen: I stumbled upon him in DA:O and found him kinda cute, when I met him in the hallway and he ran away. But what really made me love his character is a series of fanfiction I read that was about him and a f!Amell which was just amazing. (For anyone interested, the series is "What we are", "What we were", "What we become" and "What we choose" -maybe in a different order- by crisium over at fanfiction.net)

[Tanyara]

I can hear what you mean. He does tend to separate his elven and.. over-pronounce it, I guess...? You can kind of tell it's being read. I think it's less noticeable in-game. It's not a big deal to me, though. I enjoy the sound of his voice and I love it when Solas talks elfy to me. 

Abelas' elven does sound a little more "flowy" so it's probably not an ancient elf thing. Just a Solas thing.

GDL did a phenomenal job conveying Solas' emotions which is the more impressive part, imo.

 

Yeah, GDL did a fantastic job with the emotion! Easily the best voice acting I've ever heard. And the pronounciation doesn't really ruin it for me, it's just a small annoyance ^^ 

[lynroy]

May be a unpopular opinion, but here I go

 

I cringe a little bit almost every time he speaks elven   They way he pronounces it is weird (language, pronounciation and intonation freak here), you can really hear that it is a made up language. GDL separates the words to much, so there no music to the language plus that you sometimes hear a very distinct english accent.The spectral sentinels and Lavellan has much better pronounciation imo. And the way Viddasala pronounces orders in qunlat mostly sounds awesome.

 

The way GDL pronounces "Ar lath ma vhenan" is good, but the flow isn't there. He basically says: Ar. Lath. Ma. Vhenan. whereas in real languages there is always a certain blending of the words so it sounds more like Arlathmavhenan.

Not that is has to be said quickly, but the flow makes the words "bleed" into eachother a bit.

 

For example: In written text the words are clearly separated, like "I love you". But when someone actually pronounces it, it is more like Iloveyou. This phenomenon usually becomes apparent when you hear a language that you don't know - you have no idea which syllables and sounds that makes up separate words, it just sounds like a string of sounds. *ends lecture*  *hides*

Thank you for putting into words my own thoughts on this! I share your opinion here.

[Illyria]

Just to add to this - I don't think I've seen a single romance in a BioWare game - especially a romance with any measure of popularity - NOT be called abusive at one point or another. It's like some fandom passtime to pick on and discredit people you don't romance, try to undermine the validity of the relationship because - who the **** even knows. Like, I don't tremendously care for Cullen or his romance, but I don't write up essays about how it's abusive and ~problematic.~

 

But I've seen such essays. Oh, yes. As I've seen them for Alistair, Fenris, Anders, Kaidan. (Notice the pattern? It's always the guys. Why don't the female love interests ever get called on this crap?) It's inevitable that Solas, popular an LI as he is, would get whacked with it eventually. Almost every male LI does. It's gotten to the point where I just tune it out as white noise - some insecure fan with romancer's remorse trying to run others' fun because how dare they like things?

 

Perhaps the criticisms have a little more merit, given everything that happens - but I still wouldn't call the Solasmance abusive. Solas does nothing to force Lavellan to stay with him. He never pushes her, never guilts her, never threatens her. He in fact warns her, repeatedly, to turn back, and if she does, he never makes another move. Lavellan gets with Solas, and remains with Solas, entirely of her own free will. As for the lies? As Solas himself pointed out, how was he supposed to tell her? How do you just let slip something like that? "Lovely day today! My, isn't the weather nice? I had a pleasant nap this noon and, oh, by the way, I'm the devil figure of your people's mythology. Gosh, look at those clouds! Think there might be rain?"

 

Solas lied to Lavellan before he ever knew her, before he knew she existed, and certainly before he fell in love with her. There was no practical way for him to be entirely truthful with her.

 

Wait...

 

 

Alistair?
 

[Illyria]

And yet, every single one of the DA characters who warns you off has something bad going on.  Izzy gets cold feet because she's Izzy, and she's got the whole mess with the qunari.  Morrigan flat-out tells the Warden to break up with her.  Anders, Solas...hell, even Wynne warns you about getting too involved with Alistair because (FORESHADOWING) your love and duty may conflict.  To a lesser extent, it also happens in Mass Effect 2 with Thane and Jack, who are respectively dying and a dangerous mess.

 

This certainly doesn't apply to new folks, but I think at this point, those of us who have played our way through the whole DA series can't say we weren't warned.  I got Solas's "this could lead to trouble line," shrugged, and clicked the heart anyway.

 

In the next game I want to have an LI who warns us off repeatedly and tells us that they're bad news and then have the reveal that the big secret is that they're just too busy running an orphanage and puppy+kitten adoption centre, and they're too dedicated to baking and reading the elderly, and how can you ever love me knowing my secret?
 

[MayriyaNoori]

Wait...

 

 

Alistair?
 

I was thinking the same thing.....

 

.......like where is this essay? I have to read it now cause......cause it's Alistair.

 

I'm pretty sure the worst thing he could have ever done to my Warden is accidentally prick her with a thorn while handing her a rose.

 

That could end up being some weird metaphor though.....

[MayriyaNoori]

In the next game I want to have an LI who warns us off repeatedly and tells us that they're bad news and then have the reveal that the big secret is that they're just too busy running an orphanage and puppy+kitten adoption centre, and they're too dedicated to baking and reading the elderly, and how can you ever love me knowing my secret?
 

Said LI ends up being a Tranquil Felessan trying to get his emotions back.

[TheButterflyEffect]

Did he keep his long distance girlfriend's arm as a trophy? Psycho.

[FernRain]

I was talking to Solas as a rival:
 
About Sera:

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A blood mage ancient Elf?

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Foreshadowing..

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And this one is really interesting because I wonder if he's talking about Mythal's death:

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[Illyria]

"Solas left to help against the Qunari!"

 

I mean, no one can blame us for these. It was the writers. Not us. SOME Lavellan's would be that dense, but seriously... just no.

 

Him being Fen'Harel doesn't mean he didn't also leave to fight the Qunari.  Lavellan knows that he hates the Qun, and she knows that he left to do something big.

[Flemmy]

You're not allowed to leave. If you try I bring you back

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!! (Tears streaming and stomache hurts )

[Illyria]

Mandatory post about how much I love Josephine. Would date the Swan Princess of Awesome too. 

 

Add me to that list too.

 

Josie is perfect. 10/10. Would bring home to meet the parents.

[Illyria]

It's "clever."  And therefore insufficiently trollish, inappropriate, or downright ridiculous to be worthy of the glory that is Purple!Hawke 

 

The DA:I standard dialogue wheel is basically a defanged version of DA2's.  I can understand why they did it, but personally, I prefer DA2's.  I know I'm in the minority there, but if I'm going to have tone influence my dialogue, I prefer full ham  Also why I like Renegade ManShep so much.

 

'Because it's a BIG. STUPID. JELLYFISH.'

 

I love Hale and I can't imagine the game as Manshep but he does that line so much better.

 

Also, yes.  Bring back purple!Hawke.

[TheButterflyEffect]

Wait...

 

 

Alistair?
 

 

He acts like he owns you then kicks you to the curb as soon as it becomes an inconvenience.