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I think a lot of Murphy's quotes fit Solas very well:

 

If there are two or more ways to do something, and one of those ways can result in a catastrophe, then someone will do it.

 

It is better for civilization to be going down the drain than to be coming up it.

 

If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you have tried.

 

If anything can go wrong, it will.

 

If anything can't go wrong, it will anyway.

 

Left to themselves, things tend to go from bad to worse.

 

Smile... tomorrow will be worse.

 

The limits of the possible can only be defined by going beyond them into the impossible. 

 

Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely.

 

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

 

It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious.

 

Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong conclusion with confidence. 

 

I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which, when you looked at it in the right way, did not become still more complicated. 

I want to "like" this so badly!!! <3



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In the trespasser slides with a romanced Solas, when Lavellan is dreaming why does Solas appear as a wolf? Is it because she is imprinting that imagine onto him and her mind or the fade is creating that because he's the dread wolf. Or is he really there watching her as the wolf. I know they can be simple dreams but I'm going with that they are not. Again sorry for the stupid question.

He simply can't stay away... <3


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It's quite likely he can shape-shift, given that it's an ancient elven form of magic, and it's been hinted that it used to be common (Kieran asks why an elven inquisitor stays in the shape they're in).

Also, practically speaking, If I was going to spy on someone in a forest, I'd turn into a forest animal. It's also possible, given how familiar she once was with him, that appearing as his elven self may draw her attention more quickly, and thus be less effective.

It's not a stupid question, don't worry :)

I thought about that but wasn't sure, because shape shifting hasn't really been that big since DA:O and you only get little mentions hear and there about, and very true it would be much easier to hide as the wolf in stead of him trying to hide behind a tree, would be funny though. Thanks for answering :)

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Not sure that's been asked before but also don't think it's explained why. Could just be that's how the slide was drawn, could be he was literally watching her as wolf. Pretty sure it's just not explained.



Yeah that's why I thought I would ask about it. Just wanted to see what others thought about it, I hope that there is more to it then them just drawing him as the wolf because of who he is. Thanks for answering :)

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I think a lot of Murphy's quotes fit Solas very well:

 

If there are two or more ways to do something, and one of those ways can result in a catastrophe, then someone will do it.

 

It is better for civilization to be going down the drain than to be coming up it.

 

If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you have tried.

 

If anything can go wrong, it will.

 

If anything can't go wrong, it will anyway.

 

Left to themselves, things tend to go from bad to worse.

 

Smile... tomorrow will be worse.

 

The limits of the possible can only be defined by going beyond them into the impossible. 

 

Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely.

 

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

 

It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious.

 

Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong conclusion with confidence. 

 

I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which, when you looked at it in the right way, did not become still more complicated. 

 

There is wisdom there, but few ever head it.

 

My father's would be  If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you have tried. He refused to admit he'd attempted anything he didn't do well or even perfectly. Though looking back there were many times my mother should have hit him upside the back of the head for being an idiot. 

 

Mine are the two that say something will go wrong every-time....it always does. Not that I'm a pessimist. I always hope for the best and plan for the worst. :rolleyes:



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@NeverlandHunter,

 

Here are the wisps in Inquisition:

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Aw! I need to use Dorian more XD

In Origins I used to summon my wisp just to keep me company!


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The wisps go pew pew pew?

 

=x

 

It's true! Look I made my first video ;) -

 

 

I went to the Emerald Graves because I know some of you like that scenery :D.

 

Aw! I need to use Dorian more XD

In Origins I used to summon my wisp just to keep me company!

 

Aw I used mine too even though it wasn't very good. They're a bit nefarious actually, according to the lore.


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Random: I think one of these days I'll make a male Inquisitor and name him Brian.  Just because I can. :-P

 

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Aw I used mine too even though it wasn't very good. They're a bit nefarious actually, according to the lore.

 

I don't know if they're nefarious, this codex entry was written by a circle mage, so he keeps calling the wisps weakened demons, when they might be weakened spirits, and he is probably ignorant of any benign or benevolent functions they might have.

 

But it's actually a very interesting codex entry: So from what I understand a wisp is the weakest form of spirit, holding only a pure concept. Then, the more powerful a spirit becomes, the more they obtain additional nuances and characteristics. So we have wisps on bottom of the power/compelxity scale and spirits like Cole and Imshael on top?


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Windows 10 makes it super easy to make videos.. I didn't find another on youtube of this new talent so I made one:

 

 

Okay, I'll stop.. for now ;).


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I don't know if they're nefarious, this codex entry was written by a circle mage, so he keeps calling the wisps weakened demons, when they might be weakened spirits, and he is probably ignorant of any benign or benevolent functions they might have.

 

But it's actually a very interesting codex entry: So from what I understand a wisp is the weakest form of spirit, holding only a pure concept. Then, the more powerful a spirit becomes, the more they obtain additional nuances and characteristics. So we have wisps on bottom of the power/compelxity scale and spirits like Cole and Imshael on top?

 

Okay yeah you're right, I didn't think of the author. I meant nefarious like an impish pixie, because it says they "mindlessly attack" and "maliciously lure the living into dangerous areas".


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I don't know if they're nefarious, this codex entry was written by a circle mage, so he keeps calling the wisps weakened demons, when they might be weakened spirits, and he is probably ignorant of any benign or benevolent functions they might have.

 

But it's actually a very interesting codex entry: So from what I understand a wisp is the weakest form of spirit, holding only a pure concept. Then, the more powerful a spirit becomes, the more they obtain additional nuances and characteristics. So we have wisps on bottom of the power/compelxity scale and spirits like Cole and Imshael on top?

 

Yup, I think that's how evolution in Thedas works... well, at least evolution of spirits and the more complex spirits to eventually - souls.


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One of Solas' dialogues discusses wisps as playful and curious, and that they often lead dreamers to things they might otherwise have missed. In Asunder Rhys summons one to distract the Templars, and it talks of using them to play tricks on them often as well as use them for light sources,


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Okay yeah you're right, I didn't think of the author. I meant nefarious like an impish pixy, because it says they "mindlessly attack" and "maliciously lure the living into dangerous areas".

 

Some of them are probably impish, but I can imagine the wisps just being confused or doing something completely different that is misinterpreted as attack. 

 

Yup, I think that's how evolution in Thedas works... well, at least evolution of spirits and the more complex spirits to eventually - souls.

 

I like thinking of it in terms of evolution, and then elven souls being the most highly evolved spirits, who eventually obtained bodies the way fish went to live on land :)


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One of Solas' dialogues discusses wisps as playful and curious, and that they often lead dreamers to things they might otherwise have missed.

 

Do you remember what he says exactly?



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Some of them are probably impish, but I can imagine the wisps just being confused or doing something completely different that is misinterpreted as attack. 

 

 

I like thinking of it in terms of evolution, and then elven souls being the most highly evolved spirits, who eventually obtained bodies the way fish went to live on land :)

 

Haha ha... I know it isn't exactly accurate, but it's amusing to think that Soals is basically a living fossil :lol:


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I don't know if they're nefarious, this codex entry was written by a circle mage, so he keeps calling the wisps weakened demons, when they might be weakened spirits, and he is probably ignorant of any benign or benevolent functions they might have.

 

But it's actually a very interesting codex entry: So from what I understand a wisp is the weakest form of spirit, holding only a pure concept. Then, the more powerful a spirit becomes, the more they obtain additional nuances and characteristics. So we have wisps on bottom of the power/compelxity scale and spirits like Cole and Imshael on top?

Very true! But in our (real world) legends will-o'-the-wisps were little balls of light that would lure travelers off their path into bogs and swamps. 

...so it might not be a stretch that wisps do something similar in the Fade :)


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Do you remember what he says exactly?

 

It's where you ask him about himself and choose if he has always traveled alone and he talks about making lasting friendships. "Spirits of Purpose helped me search. Even wisps, curious and playful would point out treasures I might have missed."


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More about wisps from the spirit wiki:

 

Not all spirits represent a distinct virtue or vice. The weakest spirits, wisps, are shimmering orbs of light too simple and impressionable to be good or evil. In some cases they appear to be benign, aiding mages who summon them in the mortal realm (by distracting foes or boosting spellpower) or in the Fade (as guides). The Mortalitasi of Nevarra draw wisps rather than intelligent spirits across the Veil. Wisp wraiths, however, are known to attack anything in sight, and wraiths are scavengers of beings feeding on scraps of thought and unable to shape the Fade.


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Haha ha... I know it isn't exactly accurate, but it's amusing to think that Soals is basically a living fossil :lol:

 

Somehow that made me think of cavemen, errr, I mean caveelfs. Maybe the first elves lived in caves and wore animal pelts over their... damn!


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Sorry for my spam, I really enjoy talking about wisps :lol:.

 

Carrying on from that dialogue Kadan mentioned.. Solas says, "Wisdom and purpose are too easily twisted to Pride and Desire". If purpose spirits can be perverted to desire demons, that means Imshael was once a spirit of purpose (yes I know he says he's a "choice" spirit instead of desire demon)?

 

And the other forbidden one from DA:2, Xebenkeck from the Trespasser codex, was the same.


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More about wisps from the spirit wiki:

 

Not all spirits represent a distinct virtue or vice. The weakest spirits, wisps, are shimmering orbs of light too simple and impressionable to be good or evil. In some cases they appear to be benign, aiding mages who summon them in the mortal realm (by distracting foes or boosting spellpower) or in the Fade (as guides). The Mortalitasi of Nevarra draw wisps rather than intelligent spirits across the Veil. Wisp wraiths, however, are known to attack anything in sight, and wraiths are scavengers of beings feeding on scraps of thought and unable to shape the Fade.

 

That's why I can never become a Necromancer; I couldn't dream of using or hurting wisps like that. =(


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question for the thread: what're your favorite solas au concepts?

 

Still catching up, but modern AUs seem to be my favorite Solas AUs at the moment. (Bread Wolf, Message Sent, Doughnut Rebel, flower/ink etc.)

As always, I might be in the minority (at least on this thread, surprise surprise! :rolleyes: ) but Professor Solas AUs will always be my favorite. And if it's not obvious from the way I keep drooling over Professor Solas AU art and the fact that I actually drew Professor Solas, Solas as a professor is my jam...

I love it. I live for it. Fite me! (And I've mentioned before that I have kinks, this is one of them.)

At least I could be happy knowing that I'm not the only one who digs that AU. Just not in this thread apparently.  -_- 

The bakery ones are good as well. Also the florist AU. I just wish flower/ink was updated. :(

I tried getting into Arlathan AUs but so far, they don't really catch my interest. At least not at the moment. :unsure:


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... I might be late to the party, but what does AU stand for? Been trying to figure it our for the past thousand pages or so.



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... I might be late to the party, but what does AU stand for? Been trying to figure it our for the past thousand pages or so.

 

Alternate Universe

 

Basically same characters but in a different world - could be our modern world, modern Thedas, Arlathan, you name it. 


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