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I don't do drama, I just unfollow/block/etc if anything. Would rather just not support or promote someone I knew doing that.

I wouldn't be opposed to blogging about this great meta I just found, that was written before such and such date, and wow, knight enchanter really knows their stuff, predicted so much - aren't we lucky to have someone like this in the fandom? But I don't have any following so it wouldn't get much traction I imagine. :P


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RE: Con w/ Quizzy being protag in next game.

 

Am I alone in thinking allowances shouldn't really be considered for new players jumping into the (what will be) 4th game of a series?

 

On the one hand I can understand that the previous games are pretty dated by gaming standards now, and the differences between Origins and Inquisition might be too much of a leap for new potential fans, but then I feel people should really expect to not understand what the frilly-frag is going on when they jump in part of the way through a series. Inquisition usually handled this okay with investigate options (example; first talking to the Warden, you can ask what the Calling is) and this also helped with players who did play the previous games but may not remember certain details, but if major changes to how the game can potentially be is scrapped to accommodate new players just jumping in, I don't think that's a great idea.

 

Plus, as someone says, the Keep is there to get people caught up, and they do plug it before you start a new game.


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on a completely separate note, regarding the discussion of DnD alignments the other day, this is my fav website resource for that. http://www.easydamus.com/ (specific part: http://www.easydamus.com/alignment.html)

 

Gryff amuses me, because pre-development that occurs as a result of DA:I, depending on who I take the questions in the test (http://www.easydamus...gnmenttest.html) as referring to (her clan vs outsiders when it says stuff like "your friend" or "your community", Keeper versus shem nation monarchs where it says "Your ruler", etc) the outcome is markedly different. Where her clan is concerned she's Neutral Good (having eased up from the Chaotic Good of her younger years). Where outsiders are concerned she can type as Chaotic Evil (I'd say Type 1 specifically, that's from TV tropes), LOL. it sounds ridiculous I know but it's because: I see her pre-development as Lawful Neutral (Internal Moral Compass subtype per TV tropes), and the varying results of the test I see as reflecting that: she has a strict personal code that governs how she acts and that she lives by, which dictates the markedly different way she treats and acts towards her clanmembers and outsiders (shems and flatears included). She'd make an excellent Mandalorian, LOL. her journey through DA:I character-wise is an extremely interesting one for me because so much of what her ideas and code is based on is turned on its head. her LN-ness I also find interesting as Solas is sometimes typed as LN- his personal code is so different that they're still in opposition to one another.


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I wouldn't be opposed to blogging about this great meta I just found, that was written before such and such date, and wow, knight enchanter really knows their stuff, predicted so much - aren't we lucky to have someone like this in the fandom? But I don't have any following so it wouldn't get much traction I imagine. :P

You're supersweet, thank you <3


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No, it's not wimpy and lame, MJ. The internet's a scary place, and I've seen enough tumblr (goes without saying) and dA drama!wars to know that oftentimes it doesn't matter who's in the wrong, if the person has a big enough following the idiots will defend them to the death. I mean, hell, look at Bieber fans! And since it's the internet, people feel at liberty to say and do what they want with little-to-no repercussions.
 

I'm sorry you're experiencing this. :C It's not fun and it's a difficult situation.

 

In all honesty, I've found half of the people who steal stuff like that don't even realise they're stealing. They see it as no different than taking an image they find and posting it to sites like Reddit and Imgur (which is still stealing but I digress). Many would just consider it sharing. I used to go on a site called Neopets and I can't tell you the amount of times my artwork would be uploaded to a competition with my name removed and, after confronting them, a surprising amount don't realise it counts as stealing.

 

That's obviously going under the assumption that they're all telling the truth, and it's possible they're lying, but a good amount of them I kept track of don't do it again, with my or anyone else's artwork, so I'm leaning towards those at least were telling the truth.

 

Still, if they're literally copy+pasting+exclaiming "look what I did!" it's hard to see they don't realise what they're doing. Sorry again, MJ. All the hugs <3.

 

I have worked as a teacher, and I can't tell you how often students lift/steal things others have written! Some realize that what they did was wrong, especially if they stole a whole text, but some will take a text, change a few lines, and still be surprised when I say they have plagiarized it. Some really seem to struggle with the concept of intellectual property being worth equally as much as "real things". The Internet really is a Wild West sometimes, and I have to admit that I would like there to be more rules regarding how you can behave on the Internet (I've seen to many students cry because of mean messages not to want this). The worst part is that because of the anonymity it is often hard to confront people, and when there is no anonymity there is a tendency for mobs to gather to "lynch" people virtually.

 

Sorry if I'm rambling, but a university here in Sweden had to close today because someone online posted the same threat the man responsible for the shootings in Oregon did. All evidence indicates a troll, and it makes me so angry that someone could do something so vile! :angry:

 

Next post will be on topic, I promise! :)   


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Finally got the invitation.

Here, my scrubby attempt for fanfic.

http://archiveofouro...apters/11449321

 

Feel free to point out really bad mistakes.

I was explaining the newly arised Cult of Fadecheeks to my husband today, while sitting in a crowded Starbucks.

Really good material right there.

:D

 

 

Kadan, I added your fic to the collection and added you as a member! :)

 

...Also, may I suggest that anyone who wants to promote the Blanketfort on AO3 add a link to their sig? 'Cause reasons...

 

**goes back to lurking** <3

Fen'Inan, I just updated your status to "member", so you can add fic as you wish... :)


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RE: Con w/ Quizzy being protag in next game.

 

Am I alone in thinking allowances shouldn't really be considered for new players jumping into the (what will be) 4th game of a series?

 

On the one hand I can understand that the previous games are pretty dated by gaming standards now, and the differences between Origins and Inquisition might be too much of a leap for new potential fans, but then I feel people should really expect to not understand what the frilly-frag is going on when they jump in part of the way through a series. Inquisition usually handled this okay with investigate options (example; first talking to the Warden, you can ask what the Calling is) and this also helped with players who did play the previous games but may not remember certain details, but if major changes to how the game can potentially be is scrapped to accommodate new players just jumping in, I don't think that's a great idea.

 

Plus, as someone says, the Keep is there to get people caught up, and they do plug it before you start a new game.

 

Again in two minds about this.

 

DAI was the first BioWare game I played, period. I was very confused at the start (Circles? Bad? Good? I don't understand what you are saying, Viv), but I was hooked enough to go and research the hell out of the two previous games and continue playing.

 

On the other hand, Wicther 3 was also the first Witcher game I played. At some point, very much in the beginning, you get a dialogue option which pretty much summarised everything you have done in the previous game. I played through it in eeny, meeny, miny, moe style as it meant nothing to me. Then I stopped playing the game (also I don't really like sword fighting, so I guess that contributed too) and yet to come back.

 

New player to both franchises, pretty similar lore situations (well, on the surface to the uninitiated person), stuck with one and left the other one. The again I know people who had ME3 as the first game also.

 

I think they always have to keep the new player in mind, financially it just doesn't make sense otherwise. How much they explain is another question. (David Gaider just actually posted one of the interviews his done, where he was asked just that question - how much do they explain to new players. Here's link, that specific question is somewhere in the last batch of questions. Link ). I think, starting with new protagonist would make it easier to explain, whereas continuing with Inky - harder. And like you said, we have a bond with Inky, she's our inquisitor. People who don't know her story will be way less invested. Just look at home many people are requesting HoF to be back, where as that character means nothing to me as I haven't played Origins yet. If HoF would come back (hypothetically), my reaction would be *shrug*. But then there is an argument that the game is not necessary tailored to me, a relatively new player.

 

Again, having said that, I love my Inky to bits. If I got a chance to be her again and finish her story with Solas, I would love nothing more. I still see your pros, even though I just posted a bunch of cons above.  :D


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Fen'Inan, I just updated your status to "member", so you can add fic as you wish... :)

I feel honoured :) Just trying to summon up a chapter, but my husband took over my PC and started his own DA:O playthrough and totally took away my mojo. I had some great idea while huffing and puffing on a treadmill, but sadly, it is gone.

Pffft.

 

Regarding plagiarization, intellectual property, copyrights and alike have slightly different concepts country from country and region from region. The understanding is very strict throughout US and Europe. It is much looser here in Middle East, and I imagine Asia will have different definition to it as well.

 

It doesn't lessen the pain of having work - any work - stolen. The more if it actually proves to be successful in other's hands. :(


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This place on last night's Once Upon a Time is reminding me of The Fallow Mire.


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Last art post from me today. I'm off to bed. :P

 

A scene from Chapter 14 of the fic, 'Wolf Dreams, Halla Wakes'. (Apparently this fic is good as well. Will have to read this someday.)

 

Friendship Part 4. (I <3 Cass.) [ Part 1 | Part 2 | Part 3 ]

 

Adorable chibi art of Lavellan teaching her boyfriend hot to behave. :D

 

Lovely Solas and Lavellan art.

 

Solas sighs.

 

Team Elves: Fenris, Solas, Zevran

Team Humans: Anders, Cullen, Alistair

Team Qunari: Arishok, Iron Bull, Sten

 

Dragon Age Heroes & Companions


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Like here's another unrelated example, I found and called this one out like six months ago or something so it's by the by (been dealt with and apologized to etc, please don't harass this person) just mentioning it for reference. (I don't mind naming this person, and didn't mind approaching them and calling them out on it, because it was just a person. I feel scared and uncomfortable doing so to someone who has a large following, because I've seen that situation unfold many times before - a drama!war explodes and many of the person's dedicated followers don't believe the accuser and start to harass them. It's wimpy and lame of me but there it stands. Too uncomfortable and afraid to disclose it to people, I'm sorry)

 

Anyway,

my%20take_zpsho48dpnz.jpg

 

Pro-tip, it wasn't "their" take, that was my take, copied line by line word for word, pasted. You don't come up with six paragraphs of the exact same words in the exact same order magically, haha.

I feel with you, it's madning. :( I don't what more I can say without perhaps being too much, sorry.


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I will say there is good in the world/faith in humanity still, one time I cross-posted my theory (essay length) to another website under a completely random username and people were saying I'd stolen it from knight-enchanter and I was like omg I'm so sorry thanks but no I AM knight-enchanter, lol!  :D

Good one :)



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So I thought I was crazy or something, but it seems the music in Trespasser is actually Solas' Dread Wolf theme combined with the Qunari combat music in Act 2 of DA2. I knew I was hearing my favorite battle music! Just combing the two made that the most epic game music ever, especially the final battle!



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Speaking of crazy, is it just me or Solas' voice got a little deeper ever since the reveal?

Like it's part of his elven god persona.
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Speaking of crazy, is it just me or Solas' voice got a little deeper ever since the reveal?

Like it's part of his elven god persona.

 Yeah, it sounded different. Exhausted and sad to me. 


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Speaking of crazy, is it just me or Solas' voice got a little deeper ever since the reveal?

Like it's part of his elven god persona.

 

It was deep in Descent too. That elevator seen was just delicious with how he spoke. Since Trespasser was being worked on during JOH, I suspect the VA did a bunch of recordings and kept the same tone he used in Trespasser which is his real voice and not the false cheery, higher one he used with his disguise when joining you.


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"I would treasure the chance to be wrong again, my friend."

I haven't seen the romantic version, but "my love" probably sounds kinda cheesy. That said, is there anyone who has watched Trespasser's ending on Youtube less than 10 times?

Yeah, it sounded different. Exhausted and sad to me.


The acting certainly has adapted to his new role. When the character is in the spotlight, the delivery needs to be even stronger.

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"I would treasure the chance to be wrong again, my friend."

I haven't seen the romantic version, but "my love" probably sounds kinda cheesy. That said, is there anyone who has watched Trespasser's ending on Youtube less than 10 times?


The acting certainly has adapted to his new role. When the character is in the spotlight, the delivery needs to be even stronger.

 

I will always prefer the friendship scene. It's warmer, filled with hope and shows how he bonded with someone not of his people or if not a romanced elf, a Dalish he thought was an embarrassment before he knew them.


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Regardless, it easily is the most powerful line in the whole scene.
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*hugs for threadad*

Isn't that the exact reason that reblogging exists?

Some people...I don't understand.

 

I also started reading Looking Glass! It's so good!

I need to continue packing but I want to just sit here and read it some more.

It'll be a reward for working hard!


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Regardless, it easily is the most powerful line in the whole scene.

 

Yep! If you romance him he says "I wish it could" when your elf tells him their love can overcome it, but as a friend he basically says your friendship means everything to him. It's delivered so well I got more emotional than the romance scene lol but let's be serious! The hate dialogue and 15 second explanation trumps all!  :lol:


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Hello, I'm a lurker. I feel like a little intruder because you all seem to get along so well. So, I figured an awkward introduction was in order before I posted. I've been a bit intimidated by everyone's amazing and enlightening posts and theories. Seriously, not empty praise some posts have been so spot on they seemed like spoilers. I'm finally posting because I realized how much I don't want this game to simply end with my finishing a play-through or two.

 

After Trespasser I consider Solas to be the best written companion of the series to date for me; and yet not because I learned something more about him. No, quite the opposite I've been left with feelings of knowing less of him. I went in an Eluvian and came out with a whole new perspective as well as some confirmations on lore and legends from this series. He's not the trickster god of Dalish childish frights but he admits he is neither the savior painted in desperation in the Crossroads. I think he has reached me more deeply, more directly than any other character. I've always loved Morrigan on a friendship path and thought her to be well-written and poignant in her struggles to grow. He's similar to her in that regard because I didn't have to romance him either in order to appreciate him and truly love that analytical, morally grey and quietly observant (but strongly opinionated) mind of his. (But I did romance him and will continue to do so because optimistic fangirl is optimistic stubborn. My Lavellan will not surrender! She conquers and comforts!) For some he may be perceived to be this emotionally detached man but I think he's allowed his past shame, guilt or commitment to hollow him. I think he knows it's easier to not wander from a set path when you let no one walk it with you because when you have another by your side you look at your surroundings differently. Suddenly there's a diverging path when there was but one before.

 

TL;DR or the 15 second have I ever wanted to hear one of your endless explanations version: I like Solas alot. He's imperfection makes him perfect and reflective. This thread is amazing. I apologize for rambling. If I post again I'll try to stay on topic.

 


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Hello, I'm a lurker. I feel like a little intruder because you all seem to get along so well. So, I figured an awkward introduction was in order before I posted. I've been a bit intimidated by everyone's amazing and enlightening posts and theories. Seriously, not empty praise some posts have been so spot on they seemed like spoilers. I'm finally posting because I realized how much I don't want this game to simply end with my finishing a play-through or two.

 

After Trespasser I consider Solas to be the best written companion of the series to date for me; and yet not because I learned something more about him. No, quite the opposite I've been left with feelings of knowing less of him. I went in an Eluvian and came out with a whole new perspective as well as some confirmations on lore and legends from this series. He's not the trickster god of Dalish childish frights but he admits he is neither the savior painted in desperation in the Crossroads. I think he has reached me more deeply, more directly than any other character. I've always loved Morrigan on a friendship path and thought her to be well-written and poignant in her struggles to grow. He's similar to her in that regard because I didn't have to romance him either in order to appreciate him and truly love that analytical, morally grey and quietly observant (but strongly opinionated) mind of his. (But I did romance him and will continue to do so because optimistic fangirl is optimistic stubborn. My Lavellan will not surrender! She conquers and comforts!) For some he may be perceived to be this emotionally detached man but I think he's allowed his past shame, guilt or commitment to hollow him. I think he knows it's easier to not wander from a set path when you let no one walk it with you because when you have another by your side you look at your surroundings differently. Suddenly there's a diverging path when there was but one before.

 

TL;DR or the 15 second have I ever wanted to hear one of your endless explanations version: I like Solas alot. He's imperfection makes him perfect and reflective. This thread is amazing. I apologize for rambling. If I post again I'll try to stay on topic.

 

You speak to many of us trust me :)

 

I agree and Weekes said we'd be left utterly intrigued, and he wasn't kidding! Try a new game now, keep Solas in your party for every quest and listen to his banter and comments. Major eye-opener!


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"I would treasure the chance to be wrong again, my friend."

I haven't seen the romantic version, but "my love" probably sounds kinda cheesy. That said, is there anyone who has watched Trespasser's ending on Youtube less than 10 times?

 

It's not cheesy at all. It's moving. It's Solas allowing himself a moment of emotional vulnerability and with it, hope. He can't resist, he feels it all so deeply, and even as he's about to leave to go do his thing, he can't resist letting his feelings escape.


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It's not cheesy at all. It's moving. It's Solas allowing himself a moment of emotional vulnerability and with it, hope. He can't resist, he feels it all so deeply, and even as he's about to leave to go do his thing, he can't resist letting his feelings escape.

 

It's a lovely line but the animations ruin it for me. She's yelling in pain and in the next scene as he calls her "my love" she looks as if she never felt tremendous pain a moment ago and is just kneeling and looking at him blankly lol


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