Seeing people on the BSN saying that the Solas stuff should've been wrapped up in Trespasser and the Teveniter plot should be something new.
Did... did they play the same serise as me?
How did the miss the THREE GAMES of foreshadowing? This isn't something that could be wrapped up in DAI's DLC.
Seeing people on the BSN saying that the Solas stuff should've been wrapped up in Trespasser and the Teveniter plot should be something new.
Did... did they play the same serise as me?
How did the miss the THREE GAMES of foreshadowing? This isn't something that could be wrapped up in DAI's DLC.
Some people are just.... stubborn that way. Same with arguing about Inky returning - at any capacity, really - to possibly deal with Solas. People just keep claiming that their story is entirely done and they have no relationship (negative or positive) with Solas or knowledge about him that would matter, because for Inky he just can be a random and not especially exciting companion... which is like - have those who claim that actually played DAI + Trespasser??? Or do they know anything about realistic characters at all 
? How can even the most brain-dead Inky NOT try and do something with Solas, especially that alternative is that everyone and their loved ones will die in next few years??
"Oh look, my boring elf companion is back! What was his name again?? ...What? He's Fen'Harel, he created the Veil, is responsible for Cory obtaining the orb and now plans to destroy the world? Nah, who cares - it's not my business anymore! Let someone else deal with it! Me? I'm going to paradise island to spend the rest of my life drinking fermented fruit juice and not caring about anything! ....What? The end of the world stuff?? Oh, I'm sure he's just exaggerating! CYA losers"
Some people are just.... stubborn that way. Same with arguing about Inky returning - at any capacity, really - to possibly deal with Solas. People just keep claiming that their story is entirely done and they have no relationship (negative or positive) with Solas or knowledge about him that would matter, because for Inky he just can be a random and not especially exciting companion... which is like - have those who claim that actually played DAI + Trespasser??? Or do they know anything about realistic characters at all
"Oh look, my boring elf companion is back! What was his name again?? ...What? He's Fen'Harel, he created the Veil, is responsible for Cory obtaining the orb and now plans to destroy the world? Nah, who cares - it's not my business anymore! Let someone else deal with it! Me? I'm going to paradise island to spend the rest of my life drinking fermented fruit juice and not caring about anything! ....What? The end of the world stuff?? Oh, I'm sure he's just exaggerating! CYA losers"
If it's anything like game completion rates, I would bet that a lot of people don't really bother to get to learn anything about their companions at all (apart from maybe one or two if they get interesting). Anything that takes away from time actually killing stuff is put aside. They don't play games for the story but for the action. I can understand, in the case of players who don't take the time to talk to companions, that Solas would seem boring.
And then, you have people who still think DA should be specifically about the Blight and the Grey Warden, because that was the subject of Origins and they aren't interested at all in elves and their past. Their loss, as it's fascinating!
If it's anything like game completion rates, I would bet that a lot of people don't really bother to get to learn anything about their companions at all (apart from maybe one or two if they get interesting). Anything that takes away from time actually killing stuff is put aside. They don't play games for the story but for the action. I can understand, in the case of players who don't take the time to talk to companions, that Solas would seem boring.
And then, you have people who still think DA should be specifically about the Blight and the Grey Warden, because that was the subject of Origins and aren't interested at all in elves and their past. Their loss, as it's fascinating!
That was 13 years ago (Thedas time)! Move. On. There is so much more to Dragon Age than just Grey Wardens and Darkspawn.
"Oh look, my boring elf companion is back! What was his name again?? ...What? He's Fen'Harel, he created the Veil, is responsible for Cory obtaining the orb and now plans to destroy the world? Nah, who cares - it's not my business anymore! Let someone else deal with it! Me? I'm going to paradise island to spend the rest of my life drinking
Probably what I'd do tbh.
Probably what I'd do tbh.
I picture you as Oghren.
Come to think of it, it's funny how many choices went over my head initially. Hawke vs Stroud? Let me see, which of these random men I met an hour ago and give 0 f#ucks about should leave in the fade? Who to put on the throne? I'll go with the dude in funny armor, Cullen says he'll do better, so it might help get him in bed quicker.
I am judging you SO HARD right now.
:I <<< that is my judging face.
I picture you as Oghren.
I am judging you SO HARD right now.
:I <<< that is my judging face.
If it's anything like game completion rates, I would bet that a lot of people don't really bother to get to learn anything about their companions at all (apart from maybe one or two if they get interesting). Anything that takes away from time actually killing stuff is put aside. They don't play games for the story but for the action. I can understand, in the case of players who don't take the time to talk to companions, that Solas would seem boring.
And then, you have people who still think DA should be specifically about the Blight and the Grey Warden, because that was the subject of Origins and they aren't interested at all in elves and their past. Their loss, as it's fascinating!
It's true that great deal of people don't care about the story in games they play - but in that case the story isn't written for them, in a way, because no matter what the devs put in it, it won't be picked up. Plus, we're talking mostly about people who care about story enough to argue about it on a forum, and this is what I don't get.
We can talk about how personally we feel impacted by a story and if it worked for us or not, and naturally there are people who don't feel about the story or characters the way I do - but it's not that hard to infer things from logical, in-story perspective. Logically, a Dalish elf shouldn't be asking who's Mythal. Logically, people can legitimately question what Leliana is doing in DAI if they killed her in DAO. And logically, Solas's reveal wouldn't leave Inquisitor without any sort of emotional reaction, or determination to stop him, seeing that no matter how they've reacted to him in main game, he is now threatening their world and themselves. Hence the presupposition that the character (not the player) wouldn't care about Solas or what he's doing at all is rather hard to defend, IMO.
It's true that great deal of people don't care about the story in games they play - but in that case the story isn't written for them, in a way, because no matter what the devs put in it, it won't be picked up. Plus, we're talking mostly about people who care about story enough to argue about it on a forum, and this is what I don't get.
We can talk about how personally we feel impacted by a story and if it worked for us or not, and naturally there are people who don't feel about the story or characters the way I do - but it's not that hard to infer things from logical, in-story perspective. Logically, a Dalish elf shouldn't be asking who's Mythal. Logically, people can legitimately question what Leliana is doing in DAI if they killed her in DAO. And logically, Solas's reveal wouldn't leave Inquisitor without any sort of emotional reaction, or determination to stop him, seeing that no matter how they've reacted to him in main game, he is now threatening their world and themselves. Hence the presupposition that the character (not the player) wouldn't care about Solas or what he's doing at all is rather hard to defend, IMO.
Oh, I definitely agree with all of this. I'm just trying to figure out where the comments from these people come from. But then, it's like all those people taking to game forums ONLY to complain how lame and horrible the game is (WoW forums were known for it at the time I played, and I've seen it here too the few times I've waded outside this thread) and I can't understand giving so much emotionnal energy griping about something again, and again and again. *shrugs*
General is likely the 'complaint forum'. If someone is happy, they won't be there to winge. The silent majority of the playerbase would then be content enough.
That was hard to express.. Words. They do not come to me well at 3 a.m.
Guys I have to whine a little.
I was so close to finally finishing my damned bachelor degree and now it appears I have to wait one more semester. That may not sound too bad, but see, I am already late as it is. I should have finished last winter's term but I couldn't because I was missing credits from a course that I had to take in third or fourth semester. In third semester there was no course that interested me so I chose to wait for the next term. I signed up for a course then, but the lecturer send me a message saying that I cannot participate, since the course is only for people who had taken it in third semester. The other courses were already full, too. The next term was for internships only, so I could not take any courses and had to work full-time instead. Then things happened and I started to think about dropping out of college. I don't want to go into too much detail here, but let's just say I had a hard time and no interest in doing anything anymore, especially thinking about things concerning my future.
Eventually I got over it, it's a year later now and I decided I do want to finish. I earned 177 out of 180 points already. I asked a professor if I could join her 3rd semester course to catch up on the missed course. She said I could and that it would be possible to write a paper and leave the course early so I can register for my bachelor exam in time. (It is not possible to register with unfinished courses prior to 5th or 6th semester.) NOW she says, no I cannot drop out after having attended just one third of the time. This means I will not be able to register and have to wait for next semester. I will also have to pay the fees for summer term, although I will just be writing my thesis for 10 weeks and defend it at the examination board four to six weeks later.
She also said I could try and ask other lecturers if they would be okay with me only attending a short time and writing a paper instead. But honestly I doubt anyone will.
I'm so mad right now and could kick myself for not having taken any course just to be done with it. Also I noticed my thoughts going back to the places they have been for almost the last year and I do not want that to happen again. It took me so long to overcome my fear and go back to college and now this happens.
I dread the time when people start asking again when I will be done with my studies. I was so glad to be able to actually answer that instead of just trying to be as vague as possible and drop the topic quickly.
Sorry for my ranting, I'm somewhat upset and there's no one I can talk to right now.
It's funny, I started the series with DAI and to me the game is all about elves. Maybe magic, but mostly elves. I remember not understanding at first why everyone was making such a big deal out of the Wardens.
Adamant must have been really confusing/weird.
Oh, I definitely agree with all of this. I'm just trying to figure out where the comments from these people come from. But then, it's like all those people taking to game forums ONLY to complain how lame and horrible the game is (WoW forums were known for it at the time I played, and I've seen it here too the few times I've waded outside this thread) and I can't understand giving so much emotionnal energy griping about something again, and again and again. *shrugs*
Agreed. I mean.. you didn't like something.. how desperate life you must have to start to complain about it in public cause honestly I feel like that is pure attention seeking to get reactions from the atual fans -sigh-
I feel bad for the people who seems not to have anything to enjoy in their lives but just always complain :/
Agreed. I mean.. you didn't like something.. how desperate life you must have to start to complain about it in public cause honestly I feel like that is pure attention seeking to get reactions from the atual fans -sigh-
I feel bad for the people who seems not to have anything to enjoy in their lives but just always complain :/
It depends. I think it's understandable that someone would complain if they invested hours in previous games and DAI took a turn they didn't enjoy.
If I don't like how Solavellan ends, I will complain in public. And I'll be pretty desperate 
Art
Egg Dad Comic
http://ishot-u.devia...g-Dad-566309862
On The Other Side of The Eluvian
http://lenacast.devi...uvian-566280569
Solas and Lavellan - Passionate kisses
http://xerses.devian...ellan-566242242
Silly little drawings
http://toxic-innocen...wings-566243586
Solas and Lavellan - Really pretty
http://velvetrue.dev...on-28-566151107
So I am guessing most of us here wants to redeem Solas. I am just hoping that for those who want to kill him, the writers will give him a clean death like Corypheus. Man, some of the hate for Solas on the other threads and all the details of how they want to kill/torture him just makes me go o_O.
The other option in Trespasser is "stop" not "murder in the most painful way imaginable," and I've had one character who chose it. I expected it to be more nuanced, actually, and I was disappointed that the description in the Keep was as... er... "final" as it was. What I intended was more "Solas, we've been friends for a while, and we've been through a lot together, so I'm not going to mince words with you. I am going to stop you. I'll save you if I can - and I really hope that it's possible - but I can't let you destroy everything we've both worked so hard to accomplish. I won't let this be your legacy." What I got was "I'm going to end you." I didn't reload because that was my "experimental character," but I'm choosing the redeem ending going forward. That's a lot closer to what I wanted.
Even with that, I'm pretty sure they aren't going to let the more bloodthirsty players indulge their more savage homicidal ideations. I'd think that they would allow some future protagonist to execute him like Hawke could execute Anders and that would be the extent of it. BioWare may be under pressure from the "Moar dark 'n' gritty!!!1!11!!ONE" crowd, but they have always specialized in heroic fantasy, and there's nothing heroic about eviscerating a former friend and potential lover.
And as an Anders fan (and a Blackwall fan), I can tell you that the vitriol some people are spewing is nothing new. It isn't easy to love a character so many people are determined to hate.
Guys I have to whine a little.
I was so close to finally finishing my damned bachelor degree and now it appears I have to wait one more semester. That may not sound too bad, but see, I am already late as it is. I should have finished last winter's term but I couldn't because I was missing credits from a course that I had to take in third or fourth semester. In third semester there was no course that interested me so I chose to wait for the next term. I signed up for a course then, but the lecturer send me a message saying that I cannot participate, since the course is only for people who had taken it in third semester. The other courses were already full, too. The next term was for internships only, so I could not take any courses and had to work full-time instead. Then things happened and I started to think about dropping out of college. I don't want to go into too much detail here, but let's just say I had a hard time and no interest in doing anything anymore, especially thinking about things concerning my future.
Eventually I got over it, it's a year later now and I decided I do want to finish. I earned 177 out of 180 points already. I asked a professor if I could join her 3rd semester course to catch up on the missed course. She said I could and that it would be possible to write a paper and leave the course early so I can register for my bachelor exam in time. (It is not possible to register with unfinished courses prior to 5th or 6th semester.) NOW she says, no I cannot drop out after having attended just one third of the time. This means I will not be able to register and have to wait for next semester. I will also have to pay the fees for summer term, although I will just be writing my thesis for 10 weeks and defend it at the examination board four to six weeks later.
She also said I could try and ask other lecturers if they would be okay with me only attending a short time and writing a paper instead. But honestly I doubt anyone will.
I'm so mad right now and could kick myself for not having taken any course just to be done with it. Also I noticed my thoughts going back to the places they have been for almost the last year and I do not want that to happen again. It took me so long to overcome my fear and go back to college and now this happens.
I dread the time when people start asking again when I will be done with my studies. I was so glad to be able to actually answer that instead of just trying to be as vague as possible and drop the topic quickly.
Sorry for my ranting, I'm somewhat upset and there's no one I can talk to right now.
*hugs*
I follow what is possibly the most Anders positive blog on tumblr.
And I still hate the guy (sorry, Cee).
I'm not bringing out the gif. I'm too sleepy for even the cutest of headbutts. 
Oh god noooo, you made me think of something.
Animal activist Solas.
Fen'Harel's sanctuary for farm animals.
Fen'Harel removes animal branding and ear tags from rescued farm animals.
"Mythal inc. was the best of them, they cared for the animals and worked on getting meat replacement into the market, but once they shut them down...."
"I kidnapped all of the other CEOs and locked them away!"
World wasn't prepared and not enough food was made, farm animals everywhere, some long time after animals evolved and became the citizens of the current world.
"I will restore the elves, even if it means the death of your people" "mooooooowhat?!"
Oh god, I'm horrible.
I'm allowed to laugh at this because an animal activist, right?
I would enjoy this too. You'd need a few wolves though, somehow.
I think I mentioned a while back my AU idea of the Inquisition at a Pride event? Because I totally need to write that. Mostly for this:
Random Chantry Priest: It's the Maker and His Bride, not the Maker and Her Bride!
Leliana: *eye rolling intensifies*
I remember this. Yes, write this.
Come to think of it, it's funny how many choices went over my head initially. Hawke vs Stroud? Let me see, which of these random men I met an hour ago and give 0 f#ucks about should leave in the fade? Who to put on the throne? I'll go with the dude in funny armor, Cullen says he'll do better, so it might help get him in bed quicker.
This is some amusing perspective.
This is some amusing perspective.
Well, my favorite dumb choice of my first PT was: It says here it's a mage's punishment, let's make Erimond Tranquil. What?! Why does everyone hate me?
Oh, and for extra impact, I was playing a mage as usual.
Guys I have to whine a little.
I was so close to finally finishing my damned bachelor degree and now it appears I have to wait one more semester. That may not sound too bad, but see, I am already late as it is. I should have finished last winter's term but I couldn't because I was missing credits from a course that I had to take in third or fourth semester. In third semester there was no course that interested me so I chose to wait for the next term. I signed up for a course then, but the lecturer send me a message saying that I cannot participate, since the course is only for people who had taken it in third semester. The other courses were already full, too. The next term was for internships only, so I could not take any courses and had to work full-time instead. Then things happened and I started to think about dropping out of college. I don't want to go into too much detail here, but let's just say I had a hard time and no interest in doing anything anymore, especially thinking about things concerning my future.
Eventually I got over it, it's a year later now and I decided I do want to finish. I earned 177 out of 180 points already. I asked a professor if I could join her 3rd semester course to catch up on the missed course. She said I could and that it would be possible to write a paper and leave the course early so I can register for my bachelor exam in time. (It is not possible to register with unfinished courses prior to 5th or 6th semester.) NOW she says, no I cannot drop out after having attended just one third of the time. This means I will not be able to register and have to wait for next semester. I will also have to pay the fees for summer term, although I will just be writing my thesis for 10 weeks and defend it at the examination board four to six weeks later.
She also said I could try and ask other lecturers if they would be okay with me only attending a short time and writing a paper instead. But honestly I doubt anyone will.
I'm so mad right now and could kick myself for not having taken any course just to be done with it. Also I noticed my thoughts going back to the places they have been for almost the last year and I do not want that to happen again. It took me so long to overcome my fear and go back to college and now this happens.
I dread the time when people start asking again when I will be done with my studies. I was so glad to be able to actually answer that instead of just trying to be as vague as possible and drop the topic quickly.
Sorry for my ranting, I'm somewhat upset and there's no one I can talk to right now.
That sounds like a really sucky situation. Degrees are hard and they take so much energy to complete. You can always vent in here. I think I speak to the majority of us when saying we don't mind and we're here to listen.
So, a big internet hug to you if you want one.
Well, my favorite dumb choice of my first PT was: It says here it's a mage's punishment, let's make Erimond Tranquil. What?! Why does everyone hate me?
Oh, and for extra impact, I was playing a mage as usual.
Hahaha... that's what happened to me as well. I am still ashamed 
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