What do you agree with Solas on and what do you disagree with him on?
We have been talking about his Trespasser decision a lot and I think most of us disagree with his unilateral way of doing things. We also disagree with his plan. But aside from that, the reason why I love Solas so much is because I share his opinions on basically everything else. His love for freedom, both of the mind and the body. His curiosity and love of knowledge. His distrust of large organizations.
Ma nuvenin, falon
And thank you all for the compliments on my goofy fluff. I'm out of likes again, but you're the best
Fly'Harel managed to miss a few that returned to me. 
It's a good thing to encounter after nightmares.
I'm so sorry, Cee.
Here, hug these cute animals to let go of the dream.
That is so adorable. I want to join Cole there.
I guess it's a good thing in this case that I lose the details of most of my dreams, but that was really disturbing.
Ma nuvenin, falon
Fly'Harel managed to miss a few that returned to me.
It's a good thing to encounter after nightmares.
Yes, fewer nightmares, more of adorkable grad student Solas
Ma nuvenin, falon
EDIT: My likes are back! *goes back and likes all of you*
Spoiler
You do know we're all interested in how this date is going to go, right? Don't just leave it there!
You do know we're all interested in how this date is going to go, right? Don't just leave it there!
I know, I'm thinking way too much about it. Embarrassingly enough, I had to look up Macbeth. I couldn't remember who was first on stage 
You do know we're all interested in how this date is going to go, right? Don't just leave it there!
I agree with him on the being able to learn and aquire knowledge, the freedom to make and walk your own path, to be able to practice magic freely I believe magic is good it's the person and there intentions that make it bad. The only thing I don't agree on is the genocide plan. The main reason I love Solas is because he is not a simple Character he is so much more then that, there are so many layers to him and so many sides.What do you agree with Solas on and what do you disagree with him on?
We have been talking about his Trespasser decision a lot and I think most of us disagree with his unilateral way of doing things. We also disagree with his plan. But aside from that, the reason why I love Solas so much is because I share his opinions on basically everything else. His love for freedom, both of the mind and the body. His curiosity and love of knowledge. His distrust of large organizations.
I'm so sorry, Cee.
This picture makes me lament that the Ranger spec has been absent for the last two games, I bet Cole would have greatly approved of an Inquisitor who learned to become a mix of Doctor Dolittle and the Beastmaster.
What do you agree with Solas on and what do you disagree with him on?
We have been talking about his Trespasser decision a lot and I think most of us disagree with his unilateral way of doing things. We also disagree with his plan. But aside from that, the reason why I love Solas so much is because I share his opinions on basically everything else. His love for freedom, both of the mind and the body. His curiosity and love of knowledge. His distrust of large organizations.
Ma nuvenin, falon
EDIT: My likes are back! *goes back and likes all of you*
Spoiler
I know, I know, an unforgivable sin for a grad student. But Weekes said caffeine was Solas's sticking point for not liking tea. He can be the weirdo.
That is so great! and i second wanting to know how their date goes and if solas manages to screw things up somehow 
That is so great! and i second wanting to know how their date goes and if solas manages to screw things up somehow
Oh, come on. I think he needs a break from screwing things up or being responsible for every last thing going wrong. Give him the five minutes of doing things right this time around. 
What do you agree with Solas on and what do you disagree with him on?
We have been talking about his Trespasser decision a lot and I think most of us disagree with his unilateral way of doing things. We also disagree with his plan. But aside from that, the reason why I love Solas so much is because I share his opinions on basically everything else. His love for freedom, both of the mind and the body. His curiosity and love of knowledge. His distrust of large organizations.
. Capable of rationalizing morally dubious actions as long as they help people. That said, his pride is one of my biggest sticking points with him.
Oh, come on. I think he needs a break from screwing things up or being responsible for every last thing going wrong. Give him the five minutes of doing things right this time around.
I think I have the unpopular view of Solas' actions 
. Trespasser revealed very little in the way of what is going on and what will happen (done I'm sure to leave wiggle room for DA4 and mystery 
) Based off of lore, prophecies, and what we as players have seen in all the games; VEIL GOTTA GO (IMO)! Its unclear why it has to be brought down by Solas since he has not said anything and this hasn't been revealed yet. In my case I would look to see what I could salvage of the world, how to lessen the amount of death and any cultural artifacts/literature destruction, before I brought the veil down. Throughout Inquisition you create so many connections that it would be logical to see what the best minds could come up with in order to minimize damage. Failing no viable options, which maybe there are none or not enough time to put them in play; Solas would know better than we, at least you would hope so.....I would tear it down and live with the aftermath.
Omg! Whaat! I've never had that happening! What did he say??
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My boyfriend and I once had a long conversation about where our morals come from. We eventually came to the conclusion that he cares fundamentally about what's fair for people, while I care about what's best for them. In that sense I'm a bit more like Solas than I'd like to think
Mine knows I'm very much about personal freedom and fairness, as well as treating people equally and with kindness and compassion, so he tries to bait me into these morality conundrums where everything is dire and bad and where it boils down to caring for the few or the many and sacrificing and letting people die. Also tells me I'd be a terrible leader. Too soft and honest or something. Eh, whatever.
But he's perfectly willing to justify dubious things because of that 'what's best' for people rationale, even if it's pretty horrible stuff. He also thinks he's right about just about everything, which is a point of contention between us. So I try to get out of these things every time he tries to bring them up because they just don't end well. If I try to think within the question or propose alternative solutions, he'll try to tell me why those aren't allowed.
Me, I agree with Solas on many things, but not his rough and dismissive views on groups of people. Or tea. At the end of Trespasser, spirit Cole and I are on the same page.
I really hope I am not getting sick. I can never tell if I'm merely being assaulted by allergens or if feeling crappy is from stress or what.
Someone toss immunity spirits my way, just in case.
It's an interesting question, and honestly not one I thought about until you asked it. I usually think less about whether I personally agree with a character, and more about whether I can understand where they're coming from.
My boyfriend and I once had a long conversation about where our morals come from. We eventually came to the conclusion that he cares fundamentally about what's fair for people, while I care about what's best for them. In that sense I'm a bit more like Solas than I'd like to think
I find myself very much the same whenever I play RPGs, because as hard as I try to be a "Paragon", I do find myself willing to do extremely morally dubious actions to get rid of a greater evil or if it could lead to something that ultimately benefits people.
That being said, no matter how "good" the end result might be, if it requires that people suffer to achieve then my natural response is to attempt to thwart it in any way I can, since I do not believe that the ends ever justify the means in that case.
So why I guess that I'm sympathetic to Solas and his desire to save his people, it crosses far too many lines that I'd ever be comfortable with. I'd probably go with either a less harmful third option if I could find it, or instead attempt to rebuild Elvhenan and help the Elves who live in the here and now.
Solas really needs someone to slap some sense into him and remind him that despite wanting to atone for his mistakes, Elvhenan was still a morally bankrupt empire run by despots who proudly proclaimed their own Divinity, that he destroyed and locked away for a very good reason.
See, I think what's 'best' for people is what's fair and what's compassionate. I don't see why those should come into conflict.
I kind of hate this narrative which purports that if you're a leader, you have to make 'tough decisions' which ruin people's lives, and when people protest against those, they're being 'petty' or 'small-minded' (nevermind that they often risk their jobs or lives to speak out, as if that decision isn't 'difficult', and as if they aren't considering anyone else when they speak up). What's the point of trying to improve the world with your big vision when you ruin the world in the process?
I make a really awful renegade to be honest.
My boyfriend and I once had a long conversation about where our morals come from. We eventually came to the conclusion that he cares fundamentally about what's fair for people, while I care about what's best for them. In that sense I'm a bit more like Solas than I'd like to think
Mine knows I'm very much about personal freedom and fairness, as well as treating people equally and with kindness and compassion, so he tries to bait me into these morality conundrums where everything is dire and bad and where it boils down to caring for the few or the many and sacrificing and letting people die. Also tells me I'd be a terrible leader. Too soft and honest or something. Eh, whatever.
But he's perfectly willing to justify dubious things because of that 'what's best' for people rationale, even if it's pretty horrible stuff. He also thinks he's right about just about everything, which is a point of contention between us. So I try to get out of these things every time he tries to bring them up because they just don't end well. If I try to think within the question or propose alternative solutions, he'll try to tell me why those aren't allowed.
Me, I agree with Solas on many things, but not his rough and dismissive views on groups of people. Or tea.
When it comes to people, I actually side with Solas a lot. I like the idea of being able to help shape a community, and I also believe that sometimes what's best for people is not always the nicest thing to do in a situation. That being said, kindness is always the thing I try to do first in any set of circumstances involving people.
Where I disagree with him is in the idea that some people are better than others. Regardless of what he would choose to divide people upon - physical features, Qun, knowledge, magic, I think it's wrong. Even immortality doesn't make the ancient elves somehow better than anyone the modern world. If the creature possesses self-awareness, they're people.
The Elven "gods" are not part of what I would bring back, though they would most likely be an unfortunate side effect, one in which I would be certain to have a plan for. The veil coming down isn't about bring back the past. It's about putting order back and bring forth a sense of being that was and is supposed to be there. Magic, the fade, spirits; these things are natural and should not be denied and destroyed so that things can remain better for those who are not comforable with it imo. Yes elves seem to be in a better position if the veil is down but remember that other races existed at the same time too, we as gamers are just not given intel about what things were like for them.
Meh 
I find myself very much the same whenever I play RPGs, because as hard as I try to be a "Paragon", I do find myself willing to do extremely morally dubious actions to get rid of a greater evil or if it could lead to something that ultimately benefits people.
I don't really play and make morally dubious choices. I tend to play characters who seek other solutions and to minimize harm.
It surprised me a bit, while playing Life is Strange, the morally dubious and occasionally illegal things I was willing to do or let slide as Max in order to help Chloe.
See, I think what's 'best' for people is what's fair and what's compassionate. I don't see why those should come into conflict.
I kind of hate this narrative which purports that if you're a leader, you have to make 'tough decisions' which ruin people's lives, and when people protest against those, they're being 'petty' or 'small-minded' (nevermind that they often risk their jobs or lives to speak out, as if that decision isn't 'difficult', and as if they aren't considering anyone else when they speak up). What's the point of trying to improve the world with your big vision when you ruin the world in the process?
I make a really awful renegade to be honest.
You and me both. I always feel like there's some better way, a way to minimize harm. And when games don't give me that, well I understand because it's a game and sometimes control taken from a player can make for a good story or experience, but I appreciate them when they're there, even if they take some more work to figure out and implement.
It doesn't mean that the feeling of helplessness when a game takes that control from you is a pleasant experience. ME - Arrival comes to mind. That was just....awful. It was pretty much everything my Shepard stood against.
I don't really play and make morally dubious choices. I tend to play characters who seek other solutions and to minimize harm.
It surprised me a bit, while playing Life is Strange, the morally dubious and occasionally illegal things I was willing to do or let slide as Max in order to help Chloe.
Oh man I love Chloe so much but in my first playthrough of Life is Strange I was such a massive dickwad to her.
Chloe blames me for smoking weed? Nope.
Chloe wants me to shoot her drug dealer? Nope.
Chloe wants us to steal the school's disability fund? Nuh-uh.
I almost considered standing up for David. Max is such a massive square in that playthrough, I'm quite surprised Chloe still hangs around her.
Still kissed her, of course.
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