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[drosophila]

I kind of hate this narrative which purports that if you're a leader, you have to make 'tough decisions' which ruin people's lives, and when people protest against those, they're being 'petty' or 'small-minded' (nevermind that they often risk their jobs or lives to speak out, as if that decision isn't 'difficult', and as if they aren't considering anyone else when they speak up). What's the point of trying to improve the world with your big vision when you ruin the world in the process?

 

But a leader does have to make tough decisions. The problem is that different people need different things and sometimes (most of the time?) no matter what you do, you won't make everyone happy.

 

Sometimes there will be limited resources and you will have to give one group more vs the other. For example, IRL, what if you only have enough money to fund the top 1% science grants, but the top 5% are all equally deserving very important studies?

 

Sometimes deciding in favor of one group will directly harm another. For example, if you support mage freedom, side with the mages, make Leliana divine, and disband the Circles, what happens to all the templars who gave the better part of their lives to the order? They're now out on the streets, have to find another occupation, and are left to deal with lyrium withdrawal by themselves. 

 

I think you'll always do some damage to the world if you're trying to change things. 

[Mlady]

So funny thing just happened. I was in the Hinterlands, leveling up and was at the house the Templars set on fire to kill the Mages. As my Herald was talking all grim about it, I heard a horrified scream and Solas ran out of the house, his coat on fire 

[drosophila]

So funny thing just happened. I was in the Hinterlands, leveling up and was at the house the Templars set on fire to kill the Mages. As my Herald was talking all grim about it, I heard a horrified scream and Solas ran out of the house, his coat on fire 

 

Yep, that's why I HC that my Lavellan taught him how to use it properly  

[Arshes Nei]

Pretty sure if I was a video game character I might be considered a villian . Where I would not be "MURDER AND MAYHEM! MWAHAHAHA!" there would be choices that "heroes" would not agree with. This being due to actions that have a more logical/reasoned aspect instead of an emotional one. IRL and in gaming those that are ruled by their sense of logic can be seen as cold (one of those people and proud! WHOOP! ) but there is no malice behind it which makes them scary to deal with

[thats1evildude]

Here's a comic for you guys:

http://ishot-u.devia...g-Dad-566309862

Not by me.

[Sifr]

See, I think what's 'best' for people is what's fair and what's compassionate. I don't see why those should come into conflict.

 

I kind of hate this narrative which purports that if you're a leader, you have to make 'tough decisions' which ruin people's lives, and when people protest against those, they're being 'petty' or 'small-minded' (nevermind that they often risk their jobs or lives to speak out, as if that decision isn't 'difficult', and as if they aren't considering anyone else when they speak up). What's the point of trying to improve the world with your big vision when you ruin the world in the process?

 

I make a really awful renegade to be honest.

 

This is the main problem I had with how they wrote Captain Janeway in Star Trek: Voyager, because even on the rare times they had other characters rightly point out how extremely stupid, reckless or suicidal her decisions as Captain were, the show always conspired to prove her ultimately correct and everyone else was wrong to have ever doubted her.

 

It's also what's annoying me with how The Walking Dead  has once again declared the Ricktatorship (again) because they simply cannot write Rick Grimes as both good and right at the same time. Instead, he's either stuck as being the nice guy who isn't proactive or is prone to making bad decisions, or an active force who's making the right decisions but alienating everyone with how much of a control freak he's being.

 

It's a shame that leaders tend to always be written this way.

[Cee]

Oh man I love Chloe so much but in my first playthrough of Life is Strange I was such a massive dickwad to her.

 

Chloe blames me for smoking weed? Nope.

Chloe wants me to shoot her drug dealer? Nope.

Chloe wants us to steal the school's disability fund? Nuh-uh.

 

I almost considered standing up for David. Max is such a massive square in that playthrough, I'm quite surprised Chloe still hangs around her.

 

Still kissed her, of course.

 

I didn't shoot Frank or steal the money either, but after the beginning of ep 4, I kind of wish I had let her. I played as more of a balancing figure in Chloe's life but Chloe's influence on Max loosens her up a bit. It was more a collection of other little things. I did take the blame for her and Frank did wind up injured...later.

 

And yes, naturally, there was a kiss. I Chloe.

 

*muffled aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhing in episode 5 coming so soon*

[Cee]

Pretty sure if I was a video game character I might be considered a villian . Where I would not be "MURDER AND MAYHEM! MWAHAHAHA!" there would be choices that "heroes" would not agree with. This being due to actions that have a more logical/reasoned aspect instead of an emotional one. IRL and in gaming those that are ruled by their sense of logic can be seen as cold (one of those people and proud! WHOOP! ) but there is no malice behind it which makes them scary to deal with

 

I'd probably be....Cole.

[Arshes Nei]

UGH! Where is Bee when we need him/her. Im sure they would have a field day with the current discussion. Love what comes out of his/her finger mouth

[Mlady]

See, I think what's 'best' for people is what's fair and what's compassionate. I don't see why those should come into conflict.

 

I kind of hate this narrative which purports that if you're a leader, you have to make 'tough decisions' which ruin people's lives, and when people protest against those, they're being 'petty' or 'small-minded' (nevermind that they often risk their jobs or lives to speak out, as if that decision isn't 'difficult', and as if they aren't considering anyone else when they speak up). What's the point of trying to improve the world with your big vision when you ruin the world in the process?

 

I make a really awful renegade to be honest.

 

The one thing that I dislike is making Erimond tranquil. People outright protest against it (how could you? How dare you!) yet this guy nearly summoned a demon army from the Fade, including a freakin' Nightmare that makes the Archdemon look like a pet Dragonling! That I do find petty and small-minded.

[Arshes Nei]

Agreed Anariel. Considering he was a mage and his actions. There is no better punishment then losing your magic, connection to it, and your emotions to the faith you had in Corifyfish

[drosophila]

Oh, wow, not only I have enough virgins, I have a lot more virgins than I thought! HAIL DIRTHAMEN!!!

[Sifr]

The one thing that I dislike is making Erimond tranquil. People outright protest against it (how could you? How dare you!) yet this guy nearly summoned a demon army from the Fade, including a freakin' Nightmare that makes the Archdemon look like a pet Dragonling! That I do find petty and small-minded.

 

Especially when Erimond acts like he could easily be the long-lost cousin of Ramsay Snow! In my first playthrough, I had to pause the game to check Erimond wasn't being voiced by Rheon Iwan (he wasn't), since they even sounded rather similar.

[S.W.]

The one thing that I dislike is making Erimond tranquil. People outright protest against it (how could you? How dare you!) yet this guy nearly summoned a demon army from the Fade, including a freakin' Nightmare that makes the Archdemon look like a pet Dragonling! That I do find petty and small-minded.

 

I don't know about that, I take a pretty practical approach to punishment. I tend to think how can it improve the situation, and how can people's safety could be improved, and how we could best recover from their actions, more so than personal justice. Maybe Erimond deserved to be made tranquil but I felt that killing basically achieved the same thing for the Inquisition. Having one less tranquil isn't going to hinder the Inquisitor much. So in that case I decided to take the slightly more compassionate option, it's not like execution is really a nice way out, and it's not like he can feel smug if he'd dead anyway, so.

[dawnstone]

Agreed Anariel. Considering he was a mage and his actions. There is no better punishment then losing your magic, connection to it, and your emotions to the faith you had in Corifyfish

 

The one thing that I dislike is making Erimond tranquil. People outright protest against it (how could you? How dare you!) yet this guy nearly summoned a demon army from the Fade, including a freakin' Nightmare that makes the Archdemon look like a pet Dragonling! That I do find petty and small-minded.

Tranquility can be healed though. I don't want there to be any possibility of that bastard doing anything to anyone ever again. I chop his head off every time.

[dawnstone]

Oh, wow, not only I have enough virgins, I have a lot more virgins than I thought! HAIL DIRTHAMEN!!!

This... this needs context.

[Mlady]

I don't know about that, I take a pretty practical approach to punishment. I tend to think how can it improve the situation, and how can people's safety could be improved, and how we could best recover from their actions, more so than personal justice. Maybe Erimond deserved to be made tranquil but I felt that killing basically achieved the same thing for the Inquisition. Having one less tranquil isn't going to hinder the Inquisitor much. So in that case I decided to take the slightly more compassionate option, it's not like execution is really a nice way out, and it's not like he can feel smug if he'd dead anyway, so.

 

 

Tranquility can be healed though. I don't want there to be any possibility of that bastard doing anything to anyone ever again. I chop his head off every time.

 

 

I could not kill him because that's what he wanted. Death was too good for what he did to the GW, Thedas and his little partnering with the Duchess. And I'm a player who is compassionate, always gives the prisoners a chance and even redeemed Loghain. This guy though... it's just the pure rage he gets from the sentence that makes me pleased I finally riled up the cruel man.

 

And just because it can be cured doesn't mean he will be allowed to receive the cure. Wow... I really hate this man!

[drosophila]

This... this needs context.

 

Oh, but the context just ruins it They are fly virgins. I need them to romance some hunky fly males. 

[dawnstone]

Oh, but the context just ruins it They are fly virgins. I need them to romance some hunky fly males. 

Awesome. Get it on little fly dudes.

[Cee]

Oh, wow, not only I have enough virgins, I have a lot more virgins than I thought! HAIL DIRTHAMEN!!!

 

Someone made a deal with Imshael.

 

[Mlady]

Someone made a deal with Imshael.

 

 

I laugh everytime I take Cole and he says there's a virgin but I wouldn't want him 

[Cee]

Oh, but the context just ruins it They are fly virgins. I need them to romance some hunky fly males. 

 

Tell them to use Solas' class flirt lines. I'm partial to rogue, naturally.

[OxidantsHappen]

Oh, but the context just ruins it They are fly virgins. I need them to romance some hunky fly males.

Female Fly: Hey baby, you're just my type.
Male Fly: Oh, and what's that?
Female Fly: Wild.

/nerdgiggle

[TheEggCrusher]

7:55:

 

dang ... sometimes I forget how expressive and emotional Solas can be 

 

Trespasser really did change how I see him 

 

This video is a good reminder that he has true feelings, and isn't just setting out to destroy the world as a heartless killer 

[dawnstone]

I could not kill him because that's what he wanted. Death was too good for what he did to the GW, Thedas and his little partnering with the Duchess. And I'm a player who is compassionate, always gives the prisoners a chance and even redeemed Loghain. This guy though... it's just the pure rage he gets from the sentence that makes me pleased I finally riled up the cruel man.

 

And just because it can be cured doesn't mean he will be allowed to receive the cure. Wow... I really hate this man!

 

I looked at it as what I thought was better for the people of Thedas and asked myself a few questions: "Is the world bettered in any way by his presence?" "Does he deserve to breathe the same air as another human being ever again?" "What would my Warden do?"

 

Yeah, he done dead.

 

I think everyone should choose what they're comfortable with and what they think is right for that situation, that's just what it works out as for me. Erimond's sins are beyond any normal forgiveness. What he likes or dislikes does not matter, because there will never be true justice. All you can do is make sure he doesn't hurt anyone else.