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I looked at it as what I thought was better for the people of Thedas and asked myself a few questions: "Is the world bettered in any way by his presence?" "Does he deserve to breathe the same air as another human being ever again?" "What would my Warden do?" Yeah, he done dead.

 

LOL my Warden was a mage so she would accept that it was best for him, but he reaction is what makes it worth it for me.

 

I am a rare one who actually liked Servis though and I admit I let him charm me ugh............


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I find myself very much the same whenever I play RPGs, because as hard as I try to be a "Paragon", I do find myself willing to do extremely morally dubious actions to get rid of a greater evil or if it could lead to something that ultimately benefits people.

 

That being said, no matter how "good" the end result might be, if it requires that people suffer to achieve then my natural response is to attempt to thwart it in any way I can, since I do not believe that the ends ever justify the means in that case.

 

So why I guess that I'm sympathetic to Solas and his desire to save his people, it crosses far too many lines that I'd ever be comfortable with. I'd probably go with either a less harmful third option if I could find it, or instead attempt to rebuild Elvhenan and help the Elves who live in the here and now.

 

Solas really needs someone to slap some sense into him and remind him that despite wanting to atone for his mistakes, Elvhenan was still a morally bankrupt empire run by despots who proudly proclaimed their own Divinity, that he destroyed and locked away for a very good reason.

I pretty much agree with everything you said there except for the last part. :)

 

I'm reminded of this banter between Solas and Dorian:

 

  • Dorian: Solas, for what it's worth, I'm sorry.
  • Dorian: The elven city of Arlathan sounds like a magical place, and for my ancestors to have destroyed it...
  • Solas: Dorian... hush.
  • Solas: Empires rise and fall. Arlathan was no more "innocent" than your own Tevinter in its time.
  • Solas: Your nostalgia for the ancient elves, however romanticized, is pointless.
  • Solas: If you wish to make amends for past transgressions, free the slaves of all races who live in Tevinter today.
  • Dorian: I... don't know that I can do that.
  • Solas: Then how sorry are you

This indicates, IMHO, that he has no illusions or delusions about restoring Elvhenan as it was, but lends credence to the idea that he wishes to restore the magic and "life as it was lived" before the Veil. Restoring the natural order of things, the natural state of the world, etc.


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LOL my Warden was a mage so she would accept that it was best for him, but he reaction is what makes it worth it for me.

 

I am a rare one who actually liked Servis though and I admit I let him charm me ugh............

I like Servis too, and I always make him an agent. He's a bit weaselly, but I figure it's good to have as many useful people owing me favors as possible.


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I like Servis too, and I always make him an agent. He's a bit weaselly, but I figure it's good to have as many useful people owing me favors as possible.

 

Servis is like Solas to me. On my first impression I was sure I would dislike them, then they went and spoke... charming little buggers!  :lol:


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Female Fly: Hey baby, you're just my type.
Male Fly: Oh, and what's that?
Female Fly: Wild.

/nerdgiggle

 

Auuugh out of likes <3

 


LOL my Warden was a mage so she would accept that it was best for him, but he reaction is what makes it worth it for me.
 
I am a rare one who actually liked Servis though and I admit I let him charm me ugh............
 
I recruited Servis with both quizzies :wub:  I just can't help it.  He's scum, but he's so ballsy.  First stealing from Cory, then making an unapologetic offer to the quizzy.  (Also I thought he was cute don't judge me)

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I like Servis too, and I always make him an agent. He's a bit weaselly, but I figure it's good to have as many useful people owing me favors as possible.

 

I also recruited Servis. With Erimond dead, the only 'prisoner' in my jail was the box.
 


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Auuugh out of likes <3

 

 
 
I recruited Servis with both quizzies :wub:  I just can't help it.  He's scum, but he's so ballsy.  First stealing from Cory, then making an unapologetic offer to the quizzy.  (Also I thought he was cute don't judge me)

 

 

Lol don't judge me then for saying this! First time I saw him I thought "damn... best looking prisoner yet!"


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Awesome. Get it on little fly dudes.

 

Someone made a deal with Imshael.

 

:unsure:

 

Tell them to use Solas' class flirt lines. I'm partial to rogue, naturally. :P

 

Female Fly: Hey baby, you're just my type.
Male Fly: Oh, and what's that?
Female Fly: Wild.

/nerdgiggle

 

<3  you all  :lol:


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Lol don't judge me then for saying this! First time I saw him I thought "damn... best looking prisoner yet!"


If Servis had hit on my quizzy during his judgment, I might have been tempted. Just sayin' :P
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If Servis had hit on my quizzy during his judgment, I might have been tempted. Just sayin' :P

 

Well so far all the young Tevinter guys have looked goood so I can't wait for DA4!



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I pretty much agree with everything you said there except for the last part. :)

 

I'm reminded of this banter between Solas and Dorian:

 

  • Dorian: Solas, for what it's worth, I'm sorry.
  • Dorian: The elven city of Arlathan sounds like a magical place, and for my ancestors to have destroyed it...
  • Solas: Dorian... hush.
  • Solas: Empires rise and fall. Arlathan was no more "innocent" than your own Tevinter in its time.
  • Solas: Your nostalgia for the ancient elves, however romanticized, is pointless.
  • Solas: If you wish to make amends for past transgressions, free the slaves of all races who live in Tevinter today.
  • Dorian: I... don't know that I can do that.
  • Solas: Then how sorry are you

This indicates, IMHO, that he has no illusions or delusions about restoring Elvhenan as it was, but lends credence to the idea that he wishes to restore the magic and "life as it was lived" before the Veil. Restoring the natural order of things, the natural state of the world, etc.

In addition, the more I think about about it and every time I read these last three lines, the more I am convinced that "freeing all of the slaves" is still part of Solas' "plan." :unsure:

 

 

(Sorry to quote my own post, but it was for...context...)

Go Team Optimism!!! :wizard:



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Well so far all the young Tevinter guys have looked goood so I can't wait for DA4!


Hnnnngh yes. Hell, even the old Tevinter guys are decent. At least, the ones whose faces aren't melting of Blight. And Calpernia and Maevaris are gorgeous, sassy Tevinter goddesses.

It's gonna be a good game :D
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Hnnnngh yes. Hell, even the old Tevinter guys are decent. At least, the ones whose faces aren't melting of Blight. And Calpernia and Maevaris are gorgeous, sassy Tevinter goddesses.

It's gonna be a good game :D

 

Just throw in Solas all god-like looking like in Trespasser and it's pure eyecandy!


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Hnnnngh yes. Hell, even the old Tevinter guys are decent. At least, the ones whose faces aren't melting of Blight. And Calpernia and Maevaris are gorgeous, sassy Tevinter goddesses.

It's gonna be a good game :D

 

Krem <3 Though I'm happy with my result of him and Maryden.


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I looked at it as what I thought was better for the people of Thedas and asked myself a few questions: "Is the world bettered in any way by his presence?" "Does he deserve to breathe the same air as another human being ever again?" "What would my Warden do?"

 

Yeah, he done dead.

 

I think everyone should choose what they're comfortable with and what they think is right for that situation, that's just what it works out as for me. Erimond's sins are beyond any normal forgiveness. What he likes or dislikes does not matter, because there will never be true justice. All you can do is make sure he doesn't hurt anyone else.

Yeah, Erimond is the only prisoner I executed  (unless you count "the box" :P); and I had no qualms whatsoever about doing it. I think I got unanimous approval for my decision too! :D


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BTW if you have human Cole and Krem is alive, does he date anyone else?

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Just throw in Solas all god-like looking like in Trespasser and it's pure eyecandy!


Maybe the devs updated Solas's sexy god look because they knew we were going to Tevinter, and he had to compete with all that readily available eyecandy :P

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I wanted to draw my Lavellan but didn't want to sit here all day fussing over the proportions so I.. I cheated and traced :unsure:. And I don't know how to go about coloring since I'm still somewhat new to this. It would probably take me days if I do..

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Oh the shame of self-art-post. I only do it here because I feel safe :pinched:.


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This indicates, IMHO, that he has no illusions or delusions about restoring Elvhenan as it was, but lends credence to the idea that he wishes to restore the magic and "life as it was lived" before the Veil. Restoring the natural order of things, the natural state of the world, etc.

 

Yeah, Solas wants to bring back Elvhenan, but without the slavery or the Evanuris in charge (although his plan would free them, which is still not good).

 

It's probably the reason why during that conversation where he asks about the Inquisitor's goals, he approves when we say that we want to restore things to how they were before ("well, not precisely how they were before"), since that's his goal as well.


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Maybe the devs updated Solas's sexy god look because they knew we were going to Tevinter, and he had to compete with all that readily available eyecandy :P

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source: http://solas-sahlin.tumblr.com/

They did something to his face, I don't know if they changed his skin or if they tweaked the proportions of his jaw and chin - it seems like his face used to be thinner. It could just be the diving v-collar of his armor, I guess. He just looks so goood. Ugh.


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Maybe the devs updated Solas's sexy god look because they knew we were going to Tevinter, and he had to compete with all that readily available eyecandy :P

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source: http://solas-sahlin.tumblr.com/

 

I can't say he doesn't look good in it, but blingy "posturing is necessary" general Solas isn't really my preference for him. Give me the soft, ribbed sweater and green pant things and wolf jaw. :P


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They did something to his face, I don't know if they changed his skin or if they tweaked the proportions of his jaw and chin - it seems like his face used to be thinner. It could just be the diving v-collar of his armor, I guess. He just looks so goood. Ugh.

I'm pretty sure they tweaked his jawline and jaw width as well as cheekbones 

 

before: tumblr_ngp83zpyPY1r8r3tpo1_500.gif

(lol best pic I could find which showed his jawline and cheekbones properly)

 

after: 

 

 

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cheekbones seem to have been made smaller and the jawline lowered as well as a bit more proportional and wide?


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Yeah, Solas wants to bring back Elvhenan, but without the slavery or the Evanuris in charge (although his plan would free them, which is still not good).

 

It's probably the reason why during that conversation where he asks about the Inquisitor's goals, he approves when we say that we want to restore things to how they were before ("well, not precisely how they were before"), since that's his goal as well.

While I agree, It may be a bit more complex than just "bringing back Elvhenan". I think he wants to perhaps restore the Elves, mages and other oppressed people to "what they should have been" (?). Regarding the Evanuris, I feel that it's a decision between the lesser of two evils. I can only hope that they would be freed in a weakened state, and that we will be given the opportunity to redeem or defeat them one-by-one as necessary...

 

This and what I mentioned in my other post (re: freeing the slaves) seems to contraindicate "destroying the world", "killing everyone", genocide or murder as part of his "plan." :rolleyes:


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Guys, I'm rolling up character sheets, listening to Lady Gaga, and drinking wine.

 

This is a good evening :D


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I'm pretty sure they tweaked his jawline and jaw width as well as cheekbones 

 

before:

(lol best pic I could find which showed his jawline and cheekbones properly)

 

after: 

 

 

cheekbones seem to have been made smaller and the jawline lowered as well as a bit more proportional and wide?

:lol:

 

Is it just me or did they add more age lines to his face too, like the lines around his mouth seem deeper. Maybe it's just the lighting.


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