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[Caddius]

Speaking of writing, how do you guys like to do a bit of scene/location transitions? By that, I'm asking do you like to describe in detail the switch of places or do you just like to quickly let someone know "folks went from point A to point B"?

 

or what do you think works best?

 

If that makes sense.

This is how I've done it so far.

(Put in something transitory here, **** I don't know they took a boat worry about this after NaNoWriMo is over.)

It's a tried and true technique.

[MayriyaNoori]

Mmm....I like how I got two very different responses.

 

I like Cee's because it sounds very solid. Like I'll be able to keep up with myself and I won't get lost in what I'm trying to accomplish.

 

I like Caddius' because it sounds more like "Fcuk it, just roll wit it." And anything that starts with a line like that usually ends up with some good times. Or at least a good story behind it.

 

Now....can I cross the two.....

 

*goes back to typing*

[Cee]

Wondering why I ventured out of the blanket fort and into another thread again.

[MayriyaNoori]

Wondering why I ventured out of the blanket fort and into another thread again.

Ooooo, tell us news of the outside world!

[Cee]

Someone just shared this over on Facebook. Does someone want to make a Dread Wolf version?

 

 

https://www.facebook...5021945/?type=3

[lynroy]

Those pumpkins are awesome!!! Sorry, I love pumpkins and pumpkin carving.

[Cee]

Ooooo, tell us news of the outside world!

 

I went into the "Why I like Dorian's quest" thread and there's so much talk of 'agenda' and 'afterschool special' and more people hating and/or ignoring the cultural aspects and the actual nature of it...and criticizing that "nothing happens" during it.

 

Nothing happens.

 

My favorite mission in Mass Effect 2? Mordin's loyalty mission. There's no combat. You're just finding things and making decisions. But it's the best damned character development in the whole game for me. Patrick Weekes, man. Right in the feelings with the layered characters.

[MayriyaNoori]

I went into the "Why I like Dorian's quest" thread and there's so much talk of 'agenda' and 'afterschool special' and more people hating and/or ignoring the cultural aspects and the actual nature of it...and criticizing that "nothing happens" during it.

 

Nothing happens.

 

My favorite mission in Mass Effect 2? Mordin's loyalty mission. There's no combat. You're just finding things and making decisions. But it's the best damned character development in the whole game for me. Patrick Weekes, man. Right in the feelings with the layered characters.

Nothing......

 

.....but......my Dalish elf became besties with a Tevine and.....Dorian worked it out with his dad..........and I was all "OMG the power of love here is strongz!" and the way Dorian looked when you call him brave I just......

 

WTF game were they playing?!?!?!?

 

Nothing happened.

 

*shakes head*

[Shari'El]

I barely understand but I think INTP/J (sometimes called the Architect: theoretical, abstract, yet logical. And the Mastermind: sceptical, driven, playing the long game usually) might be right. There's just enough softness in him that you think he might be waylaid, but he's still logical enough to continue on anyway.

 

Or maybe INFJ (the Counsellor: insightful and organised, committed to their goals), who cares a bit more about people and feeeelings, but still has a clear idea of what needs to be done for The Greater Good. 

 

Thoughts?

 

I'm an INFJ (used to be INTJ as teen but when I hit 19 I discovered emotions), INFJ are usually described as very sensitive (-sobs-), emphatic, intuitive and said to have artistic tendencies. I think Solas has a front (Fen'Harel) that fits a ENTJ and behind that mask is INF/TP. 

At the end of things this system is flawed because it cannot capture the complexity of the human mind, but it is far better than a lot of methods out there.

[Cee]

Nothing......

 

.....but......my Dalish elf became besties with a Tevine and.....Dorian worked it out with his dad..........and I was all "OMG the power of love here is strongz!" and the way Dorian looked when you call him brave I just......

 

WTF game were they playing?!?!?!?

 

Nothing happened.

 

*shakes head*

 

For obvious reasons, that would've brought him and my Lavellan super together, and that's how I wrote it, but even if I were playing a straight character, there's a lot to care about and even the cultural implications and personal side of parents choosing reputation and status over the happiness and wellbeing of their child.

[Eivuwan]

Hmm, I just realized something. Andruil was so into Solas that she wanted to have sex with him for a year. I think we can all understand why now. Solas is such a cool character because he has been foreshadowed and build upon since DAO. I say he met expectations and beyond. They even paid attention to the sexy aspect of the character.

[midnight tea]

*talks with Dagna in her PT*

 

Ah, as much as I adore Dorian or Bull or others, I think one of the best friends my Lavellan would have would be Dagna - they have so much in common

 

While Lavellan kinda ended up being sucked into the world by the sheer force of circumstance (fate?) they both 'left' their previous life and world to venture ahead in search of knowledge, new experiences and challenges, yet they never really turned back on their people. Dagna might have become a surfacer and thinks her venture was worth the sacrifice of leaving everything behind, but she's trying to re-connect with people left below and is proud of dwarven accomplishments and heritage. She's completely overjoyed and excitable when it comes to studying magic, but at the same time she's meticulous and scientific with her approach and has great respect for proper craft. She also doesn't shun tradition, but instead tries to merge both old and new in order to take the best out of both. Like I said - so much in common

 

... And then there's of course 'cheerfully blowing up Skyhold' thing! Magical experiments! Lyrium! Technology! Wheeee, what could go wrong? Ooops!

 

LOL, in fact I'm starting to thing that Solas may as well become jealous a bit that Lavellan spends so much time in Dagna's study, coming up with new magical stuff and experiments.... or both he, Lavellan and Dorian would just get completely sucked in for days, coming up with new stuff and disregarding everyone's questions about strange purple smoke enveloping Skyhold that one morning or why do their eartips glow indigo when they sneeze

[MayriyaNoori]

Hmm, I just realized something. Andruil was so into Solas that she wanted to have sex with him for a year. I think we can all understand why now. Solas is such a cool character because he has been foreshadowed and build upon since DAO. I say he met expectations and beyond. They even paid attention to the sexy aspect of the character.

You know what's great about that whole thing?

 

Andruil was hella pissed at him at the time and still wanted to bang him.

 

Solas was a player in Arlathan for sure.

[Cee]

I feel like we shouldn't take those fables literally. Not that he isn't or anything, but I don't think he was actually tied up to become a bed slave.

[Raeona]

I'm an INFJ (used to be INTJ as teen but when I hit 19 I discovered emotions), INFJ are usually described as very sensitive (-sobs-), emphatic, intuitive and said to have artistic tendencies. I think Solas has a front (Fen'Harel) that fits a ENTJ and behind that mask is INF/TP. 

At the end of things this system is flawed because it cannot capture the complexity of the human mind, but it is far better than a lot of methods out there.

 

oh yes, it's definitely flawed, but then trying to define the characteristics of a human mind is always a doomed effort. I'm an INFP which supposedly means I could have been a great wizard, or maybe a time lord, but am wholly unfit for normal life. That's what my anth professor told me <.<

 

Solas is definitely more fluffly than he wants us to think.

[Cee]

I'm an INFJ (used to be INTJ as teen but when I hit 19 I discovered emotions), INFJ are usually described as very sensitive (-sobs-), emphatic, intuitive and said to have artistic tendencies. I think Solas has a front (Fen'Harel) that fits a ENTJ and behind that mask is INF/TP. 

At the end of things this system is flawed because it cannot capture the complexity of the human mind, but it is far better than a lot of methods out there.

 

It's interesting to compare the complexity of Fen'Harel and the inner self of Solas as different 'types'. I do see them as somewhat divergent, Solas posturing to do what he sees as necessary.

 

But it is a flawed system, though an interesting one. I always get ENFJ, which is very much me, but it's nothing I'd rely upon. It feels like lots of people I've talked to primarily online are more introverted.

[MayriyaNoori]

I feel like we shouldn't take those fables literally. Not that he isn't or anything, but I don't think he was actually tied up to become a bed slave.

Come now....it was only a matter of time before the thread took it's turn towards thirsty for the day.

[S.W.]

Ah yeah, I don't mean to say you can describe all modes of behaviour with sixteen 'types' very accurately. For example, my brother is an ISTP, I'm an INTP, similar on paper, but in practice... we're very different people.

Even the idea of personality is a little dodgy, I think - identity is definitely a tool, I think, that we use to help understand ourselves, but it's possible it may not be an accurate depiction of how we often function and may not describe how our behaviour can quickly change under certain circumstances. 'Personality' also presumes that we have a static identity and it usually doesn't leave us room to change.

But MBTI is just for fun, I think It's an interesting experiment, and I like thinking about it.
 

I barely understand but I think INTP/J (sometimes called the Architect: theoretical, abstract, yet logical. And the Mastermind: sceptical, driven, playing the long game usually) might be right. There's just enough softness in him that you think he might be waylaid, but he's still logical enough to continue on anyway.
 
Or maybe INFJ (the Counsellor: insightful and organised, committed to their goals), who cares a bit more about people and feeeelings, but still has a clear idea of what needs to be done for The Greater Good. 
 
Thoughts?

 
Those would be the three I'd label him with. I think he works more as an INTP than an INTJ, since INTJs tend to look for the application of knowledge, and see it as something they can test and use in the real world. INTPs are more interested in knowledge by itself, and will more happily dabble with abstract concepts and things which aren't immediately helpful, searching more for wisdom than solutions. 'Wisdom is its own reward' is very Solas.
 
That said, if we're interpreting Solas to be more feelsy than logical at core, then INFJ probably suits better.
 

I'm an INFJ (used to be INTJ as teen but when I hit 19 I discovered emotions), INFJ are usually described as very sensitive (-sobs-), emphatic, intuitive and said to have artistic tendencies. I think Solas has a front (Fen'Harel) that fits a ENTJ and behind that mask is INF/TP. 
At the end of things this system is flawed because it cannot capture the complexity of the human mind, but it is far better than a lot of methods out there.

 
I had the opposite journey - I was a sweet lil' hippie child INFP who believed in the power of love with all her heart, but at some point I became cynical Or rather, I realised that I was more interested in technical concepts than feels, but I often used technical concepts as a framework to understand feels, which made it very difficult to figure out what I was doing at first.

[Eivuwan]

You know what's great about that whole thing?

 

Andruil was hella pissed at him at the time and still wanted to bang him.

 

Solas was a player in Arlathan for sure.

 

I think some Lavellans feel the same way. Hella pissed, but still want him in bed. lol

[Cee]

Come now....it was only a matter of time before the thread took it's turn towards thirsty for the day.

 

Well, we started with how to kill people, so I suppose this trajectory makes sense.

[Solas]

I don't mind that I missed her at all really! I mean it would have been cool to speak to her and it's sod's law she came by when I wasn't there but the main thing is she came by, and spoke to our leaders, and engaged with them, and so did lots of other MPs and stuff and we had a presence there and everything and yeah a win I'd say

 

re: Solas and MBTI from pre-release info we had on him I placed him INTP but since the game come out obviously had to revisit that and now trying to make up my mind.

[Cee]

 I had the opposite journey - I was a sweet lil' hippie child INFP who believed in the power of love with all her heart, but at some point I became cynical Or rather, I realised that I was more interested in technical concepts than feels, but I often used technical concepts as a framework to understand feels, which made it very difficult to figure out what I was doing at first.

 

Meanwhile, I have pretty much always been feels & sensory info and had to work to understand that by applying some concepts. When you're a kid, it takes some time to learn that not everyone operates in the same way, and even now, I have to deliberately frame things in certain ways unless I know I'm talking to someone else who is more empathetic, intuitive, and sensitive like me. If I don't, I might come off a bit like Cole to some people.   

[Solas]

also I am an ISTP /o/

[_Lucinia]

I went into the "Why I like Dorian's quest" thread and there's so much talk of 'agenda' and 'afterschool special' and more people hating and/or ignoring the cultural aspects and the actual nature of it...and criticizing that "nothing happens" during it.

 

I ventured into that thread yesterday, and promptly closed it off after a few posts.  "It's terrible writing and so cliche and afterschool special."  o.O In the mean time I remember what DG said about writing that quest and how personal it was for him.  I dunno I'm heterosexual so I know I totally lack perspective and experience when it comes to the subject matter.  But I didn't find it cliche and dull at all.  Dorian's sarcasm and snark is a bit of a wall he uses to protect himself.  That doesn't mean that what he said to his father was silly or out of character.  Not to mention it's kind of a heavy subject matter that isn't shown in games very often. Handle it the wrong way and you upset an entire section of your fanbase.  Damned if you do, damned if you don't.  I guess I am just tired of folks on the BSN resorting to using "it's terrible writing!" for anything they personally don't like.

[Solas]

I've learned not to venture into threads on Krem's gender/transgender topics in DA   some right dbags in orbit out in the forum proper tbh