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[TheEggCrusher]

It sounds like a really cool concept, 'cause I love that kind of stuff!!! I wish I could help...but I probably can't because I know nothing about writing fiction, but I'm kinda working on it...soon...I hope...?!?

Well, at least you like it!! (that's something x-x) 

 

Honestly, any comments would help. Even just what you would wanna do if you fell into Ancient Elvhenan, and what you would most like to read. 

 

Knowing that you didn't completely cringe like "oh god what a horrible idea ew" makes me happy though. I'm verrryyy self-conscious about my writing and ideas. It causes me horrible anxiety. 

[Cee]

They are both very attractive Inquisitors!

L... like from Death Note *-*?

Personally (as in obviously this is just my opinion and you enjoy the game how you wish) I find changing a character's sexuality a bit iffy. I mean I sort of understand because the LGBT community has such a lack of options when it comes to romance in comparison to hetero options... but at that the same time. Neh, I don't know, changing a character's sexuality so you can enjoy them in a certain way is... neh.

Conflicting feelings are very prevalent in me tonight. 

 

I'm not fond of it, but there's a difference, IMO, between using bi mods for straight characters and using mods that change the sexuality of characters like Sera or Dorian, for whom it more or less would amount to a form of erasure. I don't like any of it and wouldn't use them (which is why I made Cass a mage boyfriend, because she is who she is), but mods that erase the identity of already marginalized/minority groups, are on a different level.

 

Again, my opinion.

[Cee]

Well, at least you like it!! (that's something x-x) 

 

Honestly, any comments would help. Even just what you would wanna do if you fell into Ancient Elvhenan, and what you would most like to read. 

 

Knowing that you didn't completely cringe like "oh god what a horrible idea ew" makes me happy though. I'm verrryyy self-conscious about my writing and ideas. It causes me horrible anxiety. 

 

I feel like you might be trying to do too many things at once. It seems overly complicated, but maybe something in your plan would make sense.

 

I'm really not into this sort of AU so I'm not sure if I could give you more than just general writing advice on clarifying everything.

[figment_]

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I would love to fall into Ancient Elvhenen...*sigh*

 

Arlathan at it's glory, the Pantheon and their foibles...the lifestyle...the Magic, and it's practical applications..the spirits...The young "Dread Wolf" with hair and cocky attitude...RAWR

 

Well, at least you like it!! (that's something x-x) 

 

Honestly, any comments would help. Even just what you would wanna do if you fell into Ancient Elvhenan, and what you would most like to read. 

 

Knowing that you didn't completely cringe like "oh god what a horrible idea ew" makes me happy though. I'm verrryyy self-conscious about my writing and ideas. It causes me horrible anxiety. 

(my post is inside-out. Heh.)

[FernRain]

Even just what you would wanna do if you fell into Ancient Elvhenan, and what you would most like to read.

 

If I fell into Ancient Elvhenan I would..

• Play with magic,
• Look at the crystal spires,
• Explore the forests,
• Learn about the Forgotten Ones,
• Wear their nice clothes,
• Visit their libraries,
• See what their nightlife is like.

[Sable Rhapsody]

To be fair, it's really uncomfortable to think about good people doing bad things.
 
There are days when I indulge myself. Just let myself hate the people who stir up hate against various groups, without putting myself in their shoes. But the trouble is, I've been on the other side. I've felt the conviction, the certainty. I know that many of them (many more than we'd like to believe) are acting out of totally pure intentions. Their intentions got perverted by a belief system that told them "you have to show tough love to these people, because they're on a path to their own destruction." They're sincerely trying to help, but they learned the wrong way to try to help.
 
And that's absolutely a scary thought. Because it means I could do bad things without realizing it. More than that, I know I'm capable of doing bad things out of ignorance - I lived that life, and pushed those same harmful views, for almost 20 years.

Sorry, catching up with the thread and had to toss in my two cents.

It took me a while to get over resenting my parents for this exact attitude. Now, I know they were trying to help. I know they wanted the best for me, and they were going about it in the wrong way. Good intentions do not excuse destructive behavior, but they give a context for it. And that context helps on the road to recovery and forgiveness. It's a lot easier IMO to forgive someone for being misguided than it is to forgive someone for being outright malicious.  Back on topic, that's why I find it easy to sympathize with a character like Solas even if I want to beat him about the head with Aveline's "DON'T" sign 

 

 

[Eivuwan]

If I fell into ancient Arlathan, I would eatttt allll daaa magic frilllyy cakeesss.

[figment_]

Well, at least you like it!! (that's something x-x) 

 

Honestly, any comments would help. Even just what you would wanna do if you fell into Ancient Elvhenan, and what you would most like to read. 

 

Knowing that you didn't completely cringe like "oh god what a horrible idea ew" makes me happy though. I'm verrryyy self-conscious about my writing and ideas. It causes me horrible anxiety. 

More: Reading and speech would require learning the language, perhaps with the intervention of some sort of spell...Also you may want to think about a general time period, pre-revolution or during Fen'Harel's rebellion...

[TheEggCrusher]

I feel like you might be trying to do too many things at once. It seems overly complicated, but maybe something in your plan would make sense.

 

I'm really not into this sort of AU so I'm not sure if I could give you more than just general writing advice on clarifying everything.

Good point. I was also worried it was too complicated. Mainly, I want to write a fic where it makes sense for someone to fell into Elvhenan, as well as be suitable for Solas (the solution I came up with I'm not saying since too spoilery) and this was the latest idea I had that actually fit both of those standards in my head. 

 

But yea, pretty complicated. 

 

 

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I would love to fall into Ancient Elvhenen...*sigh*

 

Arlathan at it's glory, the Pantheon and their foibles...the lifestyle...the Magic, and it's practical applications..the spirits...The young "Dread Wolf" with hair and cocky attitude...RAWR

 

(my post is inside-out. Heh.)

 

Good stuff XD Personally, I would love to know more about Elvhenan, which is partly why I want to write this fic. But I also find reiterating a Lavellan AU to be too boring.   

 

If this fic ever becomes coherent enough in my head, I'll definitely write in a lot of "cocky Solas" with super sexy hair (no bald solas for me!! only fully grown out and perfectly styled god-hair allowed) 

[Sable Rhapsody]

The other option is the super fluffy Grad School AU I think I might actually try for a slightly-OOC young!Solas who is bi (because he's no longer a villain, he can't be a depraved bisexual ) and may end up with eventual SolasxDorian. Never thought I'd write that pairing ever. I've never written actual fluff before, I'm definitely a heavy feels kind of writer, so that might be worth trying.

 

I didn't know I wanted this until now.  

 

*ahem*

I WANT IT   

 

I defaulted to Solavellan when I wrote grad school drabblets, but your idea is like a thousand times more interesting.  

 

I know myself well enough to not attempt NaNoWriMo, but good luck to those of you doing it.  I will be your fluffy, cheerleading corner monster!

[figment_]

Good point. I was also worried it was too complicated. Mainly, I want to write a fic where it makes sense for someone to fell into Elvhenan, as well as be suitable for Solas (the solution I came up with I'm not saying since too spoilery) and this was the latest idea I had that actually fit both of those standards in my head. 

 

But yea, pretty complicated. 

 

 

 

Good stuff XD Personally, I would love to know more about Elvhenan, which is partly why I want to write this fic. But I also find reiterating a Lavellan AU to be too boring.   

 

If this fic ever becomes coherent enough in my head, I'll definitely write in a lot of "cocky Solas" with super sexy hair (no bald solas for me!! only fully grown out and perfectly styled god-hair allowed) 

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[NeverlandHunter]

Honestly, it's not so much about the romance as it is about my how my character's animations would look in those scenes. I am expecting a lot of laughter from the awkward animations.

 

Edit: And yeah, L from deathnote.

I love L! L as Inquisitor... he would have found Solas out long before Trespasser!

 

Dammit, I'm out of "likes", AGAIN!

That's the only non spoiler thing I can say about that chapter!

 

Well, at least you like it!! (that's something x-x) 

 

Honestly, any comments would help. Even just what you would wanna do if you fell into Ancient Elvhenan, and what you would most like to read. 

 

Knowing that you didn't completely cringe like "oh god what a horrible idea ew" makes me happy though. I'm verrryyy self-conscious about my writing and ideas. It causes me horrible anxiety. 

It's okay Crusher! You seem to have some great ideas, you just need some thought to refine them.

To keep yourself from Mary Sueing I suggest you think of some realistic flaws for your main character. Perhaps things that would contrast to Thedas but are prevalent in our society. Maybe she's a coward, or a germaphobe, or super out of shape and lazy, or she's squeamish, or she complains a lot about lack of comfort (like from not being used to Thedas clothing and beds and food). 

Also a lot of fanfictions have problems with their original characters because they make them too well liked by other characters, or they too often make them the key to solving all the worlds problems. I recommend this article by TV tropes for help with your original character.

Do you plan for the long dead Lavellan to have been in a romance with Solas? And do plan for your new character to romance him? That can be very tough to write. Even with her dead readers might be resentful of your OC and Solas getting together and Solas moving on from his vhenan. It could be easier to have him never have had a vhenan in the first place. But that all rests on you and how confident you feel about writing what could be a very complex romance and situation for your characters.

Also, did your character play DA? Does she like Solas's character (it might be an interesting twist that she didn't like his character)? Is she upset about what he did? Does she think she's hallucinating or dreaming and does that make her reckless in the beginning? Does she miss her old life or is this the adventure she was waiting for? How does she explain her presence and the things she knows?

I like the idea of a modern girl saying she was an observer from another world. Explaining it like a spirit looking through the Fade, but she instead was a person looking through at another world. She's not lying per se, but she's not telling the truth either. And how could you tell the truth?

What's interesting about the modern girl connection with Solas is that she very possibly would be in denial about the realness of these fictional characters. Very similar to the way Solas saw the world, perhaps she even needs him the way he needed her to see the world as real.

[Kadan]

Ok guys I need help with fanfiction. Bad. 

 

For a while now I've been wanting to write a quality "modern girl in Thedas" fic. This, of course, it pretty hard to do, considering all the Mary Sue stigma and lack of probability or just general sense of the whole concept. Now that Trespasser is out, I desperately want to incorporate Solas into the fic, as well as his salvation and basically an all-around ending that is satisfactory to everything we know now (which is a hella lot and way too little at the same time). 

 

I also want the main character/modern-world insert to have a believable (I stress the word believable) romance with Solas. That alone just adds +1,000,000 difficulty points. 

 

What I got so far, which also happens to change by the day and is never constant: 

 

• main character is pulled into Thedas as Solas begins collapsing the veil, which takes a while, and isn't just instant (I mean it's basically reshaping the fundamentals of the entire world so uh yea takes time; oh and btw she becomes an elf)
• Is taken in by Clan Lavellan, in which the elves tell her that the Inquisitor Lavellan died 17 years ago, and ever since then Thedas has been in an apocalypse war with the ancient elves with no leader to help them fight back (also, with no real clue about what's going on since the specifics of Solas and what his plans are died with the inquisitor)
• main character is like "well, **** son. Can I just go home please? (pretty please?) but also like, "oh my god solas you're an a*s") 
• I don't want to give away too much, but basically time rift appears like "poof here I am to make everything dramatically complicated" and whisks main character into the past and into the time of ancient Arlathan just as the "world is burning in the raw chaos" of the veil becoming completely torn down 
• ok now here is where I'm kinda wobbly. what time period should she end up in? Should the fic focus mostly on innocent/young!solas or fen'harel!solas? Where should she wake up in?

 

Basically, I know the ending of the fic (which I won't say because *too spoilery*) as well as the major plot twist , but I just don't know how to get there ..... (lol sad I know).

 

What would you guys like to read in the context of what I've said? What do you think would be most interesting as well as possessing of the most usable and applicable content?

 

I just need ideas.

 

Throw 'em at me (please) ;-;

 

p.s. if anybody wants me to divulge more of the spoilery aspects (which are extremely important to the plot and would probably help with ideas) pm me. I don't want to post everything on the thread ._.   

 

Hmmm I like the concept.

 

Some ideas I had about a Modern Girl sent back.

 

1. She's pulled here by Mythal or Morrigan, or maybe even a powerful spirit. (Maybe Felix even had something to do with it because of theTime magic.)

2 She finds an Eluvian and it leads her to a ruin near Clan Lavellan. (Ties into the Other places Morrigan talks about)

3. She's from Future Thedas. It's terrible, even worse than present Thedas. (I just watched Back to the Future with my daughter this weekend.)

4. She found a ruin and found an amulet. She triggers it somehow and it sends her into the Fade where the rift pulls her into Thedas.

 

Not really easy to find believable ideas but I can think on it some more if you like the direction of any of these.

[Eivuwan]

I love L! L as Inquisitor... he would have found Solas out long before Trespasser!

 

snip

 

Seriously, why can't we ever have a smart protagonist? We can have book-smart ones, but why can't we have good strategists.

[TheEggCrusher]

 

If I fell into Ancient Elvhenan I would..

• Play with magic,
• Look at the crystal spires,
• Explore the forests,
• Learn about the Forgotten Ones,
• Wear their nice clothes,
• Visit their libraries,
• See what their nightlife is like.

 

 

If I fell into ancient Arlathan, I would eatttt allll daaa magic frilllyy cakeesss.

 

More: Reading and speech would require learning the language, perhaps with the intervention of some sort of spell...Also you may want to think about a general time period, pre-revolution or during Fen'Harel's rebellion...

Hmmm good stuff to think about. 

 

And @figment the general time period is what I'm most worried about. This goes along with how I want Solas to be: with a hardened heart or still "innocent" (cocky, head-sure)  or somewhere in-between. Nearer to the revolution he would have been more hardened for example.

 

@Eivuwan I would be eating all the frilly cakes too XD (probably out of stress and WHY THE HELL AM I HERE WTF DO I DO, I'M GOING TO EAT MY FEELINGS)

[NeverlandHunter]

I'm not fond of it, but there's a difference, IMO, between using bi mods for straight characters and using mods that change the sexuality of characters like Sera or Dorian, for whom it more or less would amount to a form of erasure. I don't like any of it and wouldn't use them (which is why I made Cass a mage boyfriend, because she is who she is), but mods that erase the identity of already marginalized/minority groups, are on a different level.

 

Again, my opinion.

I agree, people might say it's a bit of a double standard, and honestly I can't argue that, but there's something worst about making Isabela white over making Morrigan Chasind skin tone. Not that like either, I don't, but I think the literal whitewashing is the great of the two evils.

[Eivuwan]

I agree, people might say it's a bit of a double standard, and honestly I can't argue that, but there's something worst about making Isabela white over making Morrigan Chasind skin tone. Not that like either, I don't, but I think the literal whitewashing is the great of the two evils.

 

Or the ones that make Vivienne white. *Shudders*

[TheEggCrusher]

I love L! L as Inquisitor... he would have found Solas out long before Trespasser!

 

That's the only non spoiler thing I can say about that chapter!

 

It's okay Crusher! You seem to have some great ideas, you just need some thought to refine them.

To keep yourself from Mary Sueing I suggest you think of some realistic flaws for your main character. Perhaps things that would contrast to Thedas but are prevalent in our society. Maybe she's a coward, or a germaphobe, or super out of shape and lazy, or she's squeamish, or she complains a lot about lack of comfort (like from not being used to Thedas clothing and beds and food). 

Also a lot of fanfictions have problems with their original characters because they make them too well liked by other characters, or they too often make them the key to solving all the worlds problems. I recommend this article by TV tropes for help with your original character.

Do you plan for the long dead Lavellan to have been in a romance with Solas? And do plan for your new character to romance him? That can be very tough to write. Even with her dead readers might be resentful of your OC and Solas getting together and Solas moving on from his vhenan. It could be easier to have him never have had a vhenan in the first place. But that all rests on you and how confident you feel about writing what could be a very complex romance and situation for your characters.

Also, did your character play DA? Does she like Solas's character (it might be an interesting twist that she didn't like his character)? Is she upset about what he did? Does she think she's hallucinating or dreaming and does that make her reckless in the beginning? Does she miss her old life or is this the adventure she was waiting for? How does she explain her presence and the things she knows?

I like the idea of a modern girl saying she was an observer from another world. Explaining it like a spirit looking through the Fade, but she instead was a person looking through at another world. She's not lying per se, but she's not telling the truth either. And how could you tell the truth?

What's interesting about the modern girl connection with Solas is that she very possibly would be in denial about the realness of these fictional characters. Very similar to the way Solas saw the world, perhaps she even needs him the way he needed her to see the world as real.

Ugh all of these are spoilery, but for this specific idea only, the main character ​was the inquisitor BUM BUM BUM (hence the 17 year time gap) 

 

Wanna pm about it? I'd really like to tell you more, rather than just being like "well, uh .... because of somethingIcan'ttellyou" 

 

Hmmm I like the concept.

 

Some ideas I had about a Modern Girl sent back.

 

1. She's pulled here by Mythal or Morrigan, or maybe even a powerful spirit. (Maybe Felix even had something to do with it because of theTime magic.)

2 She finds an Eluvian and it leads her to a ruin near Clan Lavellan. (Ties into the Other places Morrigan talks about)

3. She's from Future Thedas. It's terrible, even worse than present Thedas. (I just watched Back to the Future with my daughter this weekend.)

4. She found a ruin and found an amulet. She triggers it somehow and it sends her into the Fade where the rift pulls her into Thedas.

 

Not really easy to find believable ideas but I can think on it some more if you like the direction of any of these.

I mulled over the Mythal/Morrigan idea before in my head. Honestly, it's already so hella complicated I feel like it would be nearly incomprehensible if I bring Mythal too tightly woven into the mix. The other ideas though ... interesting Especially the Eluvian one. If I use them, I'll try to make them as original as possible, and not steal. Great ideas to think about though

[NeverlandHunter]

Seriously, why can't we ever have a smart protagonist? We can have book-smart ones, but why can't we have good strategists.

*Holding Lavellan* Me: Shh, it's okay, I think you're very smart.

Lavellan *sobs*: But I didn't even realize that Solas was Fen'Harel!

Me: That's true, but that would have been quite the jump for you to have realized that.

Lavellan: He and The Qunari had agents in my Inquisition the whole time!

Me: Well yes, but Leliana was in charge of that and if neither her nor Bull realized you had spies amongst you then we can't blame you for that.

Lavellan: I never questioned him about his past or his convenient answers and timing!

Me:... I have nothing to say for that.

Lavellan: And I made that dumb Mythal comment! My Keeper would be so ashamed!

Lavellan *sobs harder*: I'm horrible and stupid!

Me: You're not stupid... I mean you're definitely no L, but that isn't your fault. You were made to be easy to roleplay as... a second skin for players to put on.

Lavellan: So the devs think you're stupid!

Me:........

[figment_]

Hmmm good stuff to think about. 

 

And @figment the general time period is what I'm most worried about. This goes along with how I want Solas to be: with a hardened heart or still "innocent" (cocky, head-sure)  or somewhere in-between. Nearer to the revolution he would have been more hardened for example.

 

@Eivuwan I would be eating all the frilly cakes too XD (probably out of stress and WHY THE HELL AM I HERE WTF DO I DO, I'M GOING TO EAT MY FEELINGS)

I would say that in that case, it may be somewhat easier to combine that into a believable narrative before "everything went to hell" in Elvhenan...?

 

It may be a serious and near-impossible challenge to write about the time period up to and inclusive of the construction of the Veil.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Lavellan: So the devs think your stupid!

 

LOL.

 

While I'm sure this isn't true, I do miss being able to play an extremely clever character in older RPGs.  Double-crossing two different powerful drow and feeding them to a demon was immeasurably satisfying.  As was catching a skin-flaying serial killer across two different cities, or using an archdevil's own True Name to kill him.

[Raeona]

Me: You're not stupid... I mean you're definitely no L, but that isn't your fault. You were made to be easy to roleplay as... a second skin for players to put on.

Lavellan: So the devs think your stupid!

Me:........

 

Hahaha- Wait.

[TheEggCrusher]

I would say that in that case, it may be somewhat easier to combine that into a believable narrative before "everything went to hell" in Elvhenan...?

 

It may be a serious and near-impossible challenge to write about the time period up to and inclusive of the construction of the Veil.

Sooo ... only when everything was mostly ok? 

 

God friggn dammit this is hard. 

 

Ugh I gotta think ....

 

I'm probably just going to suffer until one day I have some random epiphany and then start writing it all like crazy. (basically the story of most everything I've written ever)

 

I think what would be important in keeping the fic moving along would be to have it not focus on Solas, but rather the main character's exploration and roll in the world/ Elvhenan. Solas should be like ... a side thing for a while until the end, when it might seem more appropriate to unleash all his complicated drama unto the readers. 

[Eivuwan]

Well, Solas is much smarter than Corypheus so I hope that forces the next protagonist to be smarter as well. I will not accept Solas being defeated through plot-no-jutsu. But Bioware is probably going to make it too easy. It would be amazing if the gameplay difficulty modes could also affect other areas of the game such as plot. Like, if you didn't gather enough clues, you cannot unlock the next quest or something.

[Jayla]

*Holding Lavellan* Me: Shh, it's okay, I think you're very smart.

Lavellan *sobs*: But I didn't even realize that Solas was Fen'Harel!

Me: That's true, but that would have been quite the jump for you to have realized that.

Lavellan: He and The Qunari had agents in my Inquisition the whole time!

Me: Well yes, but Leliana was in charge of that and if neither her nor Bull realized you had spies amongst you then we can't blame you for that.

Lavellan: I never questioned him about his past or his convenient answers and timing!

Me:... I have nothing to say for that.

Lavellan: And I made that dumb Mythal comment! My Keeper would be so ashamed!

Lavellan *sobs harder*: I'm horrible and stupid!

Me: You're not stupid... I mean you're definitely no L, but that isn't your fault. You were made to be easy to roleplay as... a second skin for players to put on.

Lavellan: So the devs think you're stupid!

Me:........

 

I laughed really hard at this. xD