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[Sifr]

Agreed. I generally can't be bothered to read lots of description about an OC until I know that I'm interested in who they're shown to be. I prefer to learn about details like appearance and background slowly, over the course of a story.

 

I'm so impressed at how Feynite's managed to give a real personality to the Lavellan of LG and TDWH, without ever stating her name or describing her appearance. When I realised what she was doing, it blew my mind a little.

 

I might have to check this one out, I really enjoy tales that are able to keep our interest in a protagonist without revealing all that much about them.

 

That's another reason The Road  is such an amazing film, because you can watch the entire film and only afterwards, do you realise that aside from the woman at the end, no other character in the movie ever is given a name, including the two protagonists.

 

[Kadan]

I'm TheBiscuitBadger (don't freakn ask. it's the bane of my existence) 

 

This one time I soloed an entire end fight with my Keeper at lvl 19, but I think it was at the lowest level? Or it was normal (or whatever the medium one is, I forget). I actually got the boss dead, and was killed by like 3 extra stragglers right at the end. Keeper is the only class I'm good at though, so not that great at multiplayer in general xd 

 

 

 

It's pretty fun, especially with the outfit upgrade system! It's a nice side thing to do once you've done everything in the main game

So you need what an origin name or a new one for the DLC? If it's Origin I'm simply Simbody, don't laugh I've had it as a screen name for sims since Sims 1.

[TheEggCrusher]

That's an excellent point, but then what happens when a detail about the character is revealed later on down the line that then clashes with the picture you had in your head and can change how you feel about that character? That's what worries me about leaving details out until later on or revealing slowly.

Yeah, I feel personally that physical characteristics (if they're going to be described at all) should be revealed right off the bat. I like picturing everything that happens in my head as I read and I can't do that if I don't know what people look like. 

 

In The Looking Glass I can just imagine my Lavellan and what  the general opinion of how Solas looked when he was younger is (light brownish-ginger hair, dreadlocks, etc.) but with original fiction a reader has  no precedent to refer back to, so description about physical appearance is an absolute must for me. 

[TheEggCrusher]

So you need what an origin name or a new one for the DLC? If it's Origin I'm simply Simbody, don't laugh I've had it as a screen name for sims since Sims 1.

Well, I'm on xbox one sooo I wouldn't know x-x can't play with you if you're on pc. 

 

Btw yes, I made my beautiful Loriel Lavellan *points at profile picture* without mods or anything. It took me like 4 hours. 

 

I've been wanting to brag about this for so long you have no idea ಠ_ಠ

[Kadan]

Well, I'm on xbox one sooo I wouldn't know x-x can't play with you if you're on pc. 

 

Btw yes, I made my beautiful Loriel Lavellan *points at profile picture* without mods or anything. It took me like 4 hours. 

 

I've been wanting to brag about this for so long you have no idea ಠ_ಠ

 

She is lovely. I did use two mods, a hair mod and the no vallaslin, but no sliders or anything like that. I have made and discarded nearly a dozen others that were like meh nope, just, eh.

[Janic99]

So you need what an origin name or a new one for the DLC? If it's Origin I'm simply Simbody, don't laugh I've had it as a screen name for sims since Sims 1.

well I have origin account. Did not need a new one myself. I do mod the game myself haha.. I have to *_* XD

[Jayla]

Well, I'm on xbox one sooo I wouldn't know x-x can't play with you if you're on pc. 

 

Btw yes, I made my beautiful Loriel Lavellan *points at profile picture* without mods or anything. It took me like 4 hours. 

 

I've been wanting to brag about this for so long you have no idea ಠ_ಠ

 

I went through about 6 playthroughs before finally getting my girl (my icon) where I like her as she is on PC (no mods as well!), and I went back to my PS4 game to copy the design over with BE, when I loaded it up I was liek "WHAT THE FRIG IS THAT?! Why did I ever think that was pretty?!" xD

 

You know what time I think it is? Share your Inquisitor time! \o/ (Icons specifically if you have it.)

 

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[Cee]

 

 

That's another reason The Road  is such an amazing film, because you can watch the entire film and only afterwards, do you realise that aside from the woman at the end, no other character in the movie ever is given a name, including the two protagonists.

 

 

Bwahahaha, try reading that novel. Between two unnamed male protagonists, the lack of paragraphs, no quote punctuation, and other quirks.

 

It turned me off Cormac McCarthy forever.
 

[Jayla]

Bwahahaha, try reading that novel. Between two unnamed male protagonists, the lack of paragraphs, no quote punctuation, and other quirks.

 

Wow, that sounds like it should be a punishment for wrongdoings. xD

[Tess]

I've just been reading that Avoid Writing a Mary Sue tvtrope article, and there's a point I disagree with and want to discuss with you guys:

 

 

Now, if I'm reading this correctly that line expects fanfic writers to go into detail when explaining a canon character if they intend to do the same with an original character, but I disagree with that.

 

I've read fanfics where they do this and I find myself losing patience reading descriptions on characters I already know what they look like and I'm far more likely to stop reading - especially if they go into detail like what clothes they wear (Solas' turtleneck for example*; I know what it looks like, stop describing it and get on with the story). In my opinion unless there is a key difference in a canon characters appearance that differs from canon (concept!Solas) then physical descriptions for canon characters should be ignored.

 

That said, I think OC's need detailed descriptions, at least (and usually most) at the start (which this quote argues against) when you first meet them so the readers know what they look like. Being vague about appearances can work for certain characters (ME/DAI protagonists), but a big part of making an OC fit in the world where that's not needs the description.

 

*Harhar! On topic!

And thus I have sinned. My oc description is vague, mentions her eyes and hair several chapters in, and avoids overally concrete points, to leave it to the imagination. Except the fact she's short.

 

Regarding the late descriptions in books my brain simply ignores it if the character I imagined differs too much, and carries on with my own depiction instead. No bother there. I have a special gripe with Hitchhiker's Guide though,  as I cannot agree at all with the movie depiction of Zaphod. Ungh. Or the main character. It's a book which I carried around my entire teenagehood. The movie is a sin.

 

Now iff to bury Haven. Oh and I need to put some Cole in. Mhm. Mhmmm.

 

Edit:

I got distracted. Who puts stuff like that on internet? NSFW.

http://40.media.tumb...gcqh9o1_500.jpg

[Kadan]

Here is my OC Carina Right now she doesn't use a last name, and I may never giver her one since she isn't really a modern girl or a Lavellan.

 

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Spoilered, was having trouble getting the bottom of the page without deleting my picture. silly me.

[Cee]

Wow, that sounds like it should be a punishment for wrongdoings. xD

 

Well, they are called Man and boy, but it leads to a lot of HE said that he should blah blah he blah blah and him.

 

I actually managed to finish it, and it was bleak, and good, but an unnecessarily laborious read,

[Kadan]

My cat is staring at me. Waiting, or trying to mind control me. "You touched my lazer light. Release the red light woman!"

[rowrow]

That's an excellent point, but then what happens when a detail about the character is revealed later on down the line that then clashes with the picture you had in your head and can change how you feel about that character? That's what worries me about leaving details out until later on or revealing slowly.

 

Edit: Hit reply button by accident. I don't mean to say explain every minute detail at the beginning should be told (although, to be fair, my OC in my fic sort of does that over the course of the chapter she's introduced in. >_< But I hope it was in reasonable context within the story).

 

It's always a risk, I suppose. Even if you put in lots of description at the beginning, you can't tell your character's whole life story at the start - sometimes details have to come out later that might drastically alter the reader's assumptions about a character anyway. Sometimes it's done on purpose. Without making it seem like you're somehow schooling or punishing the reader (and I am speaking more as a reader), it makes things more interesting, and tells the reader as much about themselves as it does the character. Why do we assume certain things about characters when we haven't been told them? What does that tell us about the kinds of characters we identify most easily? And everyone does have a type they identify with more easily - that's why I find my PCs in bioware games always seem to have really dark hair . But in the end, I really think character always wins out. If the character engages you on a deep level, you can look past a lot. It's kind of like how even characters with dorky names will somehow eventually change what you associate with that name to suit them. I don't know why that happens but it does.

 

I hope some of that made sense, haha.

[Jayla]

And thus I have sinned. My oc description is vague, mentions her eyes and hair several chapters in, and avoids overally concrete points, to leave it to the imagination. Except the fact she's short.

 

Regarding the late descriptions in books my brain simply ignores it if the character I imagined differs too much, and carries on with my own depiction instead. No bother there. I have a special gripe with Hitchhiker's Guide though,  as I cannot agree at all with the movie depiction of Zaphod. Ungh. Or the main character. It's a book which I carried around my entire teenagehood. The movie is a sin.

 

Now iff to bury Haven. Oh and I need to put some Cole in. Mhm. Mhmmm.

 

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I got distracted. Who puts stuff like that on internet? NSFW.

http://40.media.tumb...gcqh9o1_500.jpg

 

It might just be a topic to agree to disagree on. I don't think my opinion is any more right that whoever wrote that particular segment. x)

 

I'm like that with the Harry Potter films. In my head, Dumbledore is exactly like Merlin from The Sword in the Stone (same voice any everything), so it was awful with the first two movies, because he was too frail for what was in my head, and awful for the rest because he was too stern and... not skinny. xD It put me off the film series. :C The books will always remain dog-eared with covers that are barely holding on, though. xD

[TheEggCrusher]

I went through about 6 playthroughs before finally getting my girl (my icon) where I like her as she is on PC (no mods as well!), and I went back to my PS4 game to copy the design over with BE, when I loaded it up I was liek "WHAT THE FRIG IS THAT?! Why did I ever think that was pretty?!" xD

 

You know what time I think it is? Share your Inquisitor time! \o/ (Icons specifically if you have it.)

 

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ok, here we go (I apologize for bad quality pictures, had to take them with iPhone, also they're really old xd) 

 

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[Tess]

Definitely not invalidating anybody's take on this. It's really prwtty much about personal preference. I tend to type what I'd normally read,  I suppose it's like that for many here.

 

Edit. Shoe. Why do I get first on page only on mobile?

[Homeboundcrib]

Okay I just finished another playthrough with another lavellan lol and now I wanna go cry and rage. I romanced Solas clearly lol wasnt going to but noooooo Solas and his stupid sexy wrinkle sweater , stupid sexy leg wraps, stupid sexy voice, dimples,freckles everything. It's my fault I know what's gonna happen but I do it anyway I had to come rage a little Sorry guys.
God still have love for him though.

[Shari'El]

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And if you listen to Solas and Lavellan's snark fest at the start, Lavellan even pronounces "Ir abelas" wrong, to which Solas subtly corrects when he makes his own apology.

 

-Goes back to listen to the dialogue-

Oh my god, I haven't noticed that, but you're right.

She says "a-beh-lass" he says "a-bah-lass".

[Tess]

Okay I just finished another playthrough with another lavellan lol and now I wanna go cry and rage. I romanced Solas clearly lol wasnt going to but noooooo Solas and his stupid sexy wrinkle sweater , stupid sexy leg wraps, stupid sexy voice, dimples,freckles everything. It's my fault I know what's gonna happen but I do it anyway I had to come rage a little Sorry guys.
God still have love for him though.

Just imagine her in another world... with fluffy Solas, cookie talk, and nights reading books together.

Here.

[Kadan]

Okay DLC installed Game updated, made it through the first proving grounds? Best of all I didn't die... but then it's fairly easy. I choose the Keeper since I like mages. Eventually I might try a rogue. It's pretty, lots of shiny gold statues of Fen'Harel

[S.W.]

Ok guys I need help with fanfiction. Bad. 

 

For a while now I've been wanting to write a quality "modern girl in Thedas" fic. This, of course, it pretty hard to do, considering all the Mary Sue stigma and lack of probability or just general sense of the whole concept. Now that Trespasser is out, I desperately want to incorporate Solas into the fic, as well as his salvation and basically an all-around ending that is satisfactory to everything we know now (which is a hella lot and way too little at the same time). 

 

I also want the main character/modern-world insert to have a believable (I stress the word believable) romance with Solas. That alone just adds +1,000,000 difficulty points. 

 

What I got so far, which also happens to change by the day and is never constant: 

 

• main character is pulled into Thedas as Solas begins collapsing the veil, which takes a while, and isn't just instant (I mean it's basically reshaping the fundamentals of the entire world so uh yea takes time; oh and btw she becomes an elf)
• Is taken in by Clan Lavellan, in which the elves tell her that the Inquisitor Lavellan died 17 years ago, and ever since then Thedas has been in an apocalypse war with the ancient elves with no leader to help them fight back (also, with no real clue about what's going on since the specifics of Solas and what his plans are died with the inquisitor)
• main character is like "well, **** son. Can I just go home please? (pretty please?) but also like, "oh my god solas you're an a*s") 
• I don't want to give away too much, but basically time rift appears like "poof here I am to make everything dramatically complicated" and whisks main character into the past and into the time of ancient Arlathan just as the "world is burning in the raw chaos" of the veil becoming completely torn down 
• ok now here is where I'm kinda wobbly. what time period should she end up in? Should the fic focus mostly on innocent/young!solas or fen'harel!solas? Where should she wake up in?

 

Basically, I know the ending of the fic (which I won't say because *too spoilery*) as well as the major plot twist , but I just don't know how to get there ..... (lol sad I know).

 

What would you guys like to read in the context of what I've said? What do you think would be most interesting as well as possessing of the most usable and applicable content?

 

I just need ideas.

 

Throw 'em at me (please) ;-;

 

p.s. if anybody wants me to divulge more of the spoilery aspects (which are extremely important to the plot and would probably help with ideas) pm me. I don't want to post everything on the thread ._.   

 

I'd make it simple. If you want her to eventually end up in Ancient Arlathan, then just send her straight there. Maybe time got refracted when the veil was made/torn down so she was flung backwards instead. I'm guessing you'd want to do a time-travel fix-it fic, at heart, if it's a post-trespasser thing?

 

I think you need to ask yourself:

1. her motivations - why does she want to save this world? why not just say '**** it' and try and go back to her own?

2. her ability to help. how would she singlehandedly save the world?

 

if you want, feel free to PM spoilers to me.

[FernRain]

-Goes back to listen to the dialogue-

Oh my god, I haven't noticed that, but you're right.

She says "a-beh-lass" he says "a-bah-lass".

 

Is this at the very start when you're running around with Varic and Cassandra and he asks if you're Dalish? I need to find that video again..

 

Okay DLC installed Game updated, made it through the first proving grounds? Best of all I didn't die... but then it's fairly easy. I choose the Keeper since I like mages. Eventually I might try a rogue. It's pretty, lots of shiny gold statues of Fen'Harel

 

Yeah! I can't remember if you said you were on PC? And I don't know how to add people but if you can I'm MurkyRain.

[Homeboundcrib]

Just imagine her in another world... with fluffy Solas, cookie talk, and nights reading books together.
Here.

I will and already am with that pic lol I love that one. I can already see it fluffy, nerdy Solas and lavellan. thank you can't stay angry with Solas for too long, especially when he looks like that. Oh great just turned into a perv now.

[Shari'El]

Is this at the very start when you're running around with Varic and Cassandra and he asks if you're Dalish? I need to find that video again..

 

Haven chat, elf dialogue tree. He says something along the lines of "I thought you would like to tell me about the elves" and afterwards your character can apologize.