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I liked how quizzy had the option in-game to be unaware without being deliberately offensive. I hadn't actually thought about how much interaction my Lavellan had with sexual minorities until Krem's dialogue came up. I decided that given the relatively small population of the Dalish, her background was less cosmopolitan than, say, Adaar who travelled all over the Marches. So Lavellan needed a bit of gentle education, while Adaar understood Krem and Dorian immediately.

 

I left it without asking because I figured she'd feel like it was intense prying. So that remained there. And as i've said, also skipped asking Dorian to clarify same sex attraction, for obvious reasons.


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Haven't caught up with the thread, but did someone metion L?

 

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Also this really inspires me to imagine how some of my favorite anime characters would do as Inquisitors.

 

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Drosophila I love your list! *-* I deem thee anime buddy!

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Neverland, once again, we seem to be twin souls. You are totally now my anime buddy. 

 

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I left it without asking because I figured she'd feel like it was intense prying. So that remained there. And as i've said, also skipped asking Dorian to clarify same sex attraction, for obvious reasons.


My Lavellan's curiosity frequently gets the better of her sense. She asked about Krem but not Dorian, since I figured homosexuality is an easier concept to understand, and even she knew better than to ask during Dorian's quest. My Adaar is bisexual and his mother was a tamassran before fleeing. So he's familiar with the idea of "aqun-athlok."
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From experience, it's actually quite a boring scenario.

 

Person 1: So, Alex went to go see Nicki Minaj perform live the other night. I'm so jealous of him.

Person 2: Them.

Person 1: Ah, sorry. I'm jealous of them. Anyway I heard Nicki was great...

 

[conversation carries on as usual]

 

I'm not trans, but from experience, generally most people don't mind if you mess it up just the once, and apologise immediately afterwards, move on, don't make a big fuss, and don't repeat your mistake? It's not ideal, but it's not necessarily the end of the world.

 

In feminist/LGBTQ meetings, it's nowadays quite common to introduce yourself with 'name and pronouns' so that you know right off the bat how to properly refer to someone. I hope that one day this becomes common enough that whenever you introduce yourself, you automatically introduce your pronouns too, because gender can often be with at complete odds with presentation or expression may typically indicate. In short, you can't really ever tell someone's gender, or their pronouns, by looking at them, it's just that a lot of people happen to look & act in a way that corresponds with what's usually presumed. Even in that scenario, it's quite likely you've interacted with someone who is transgender in your lifetime but isn't out in public, and thus goes by what name/pronouns they were given at birth.

 

I love that when I go to conferences or games or events that attract more diverse crowds, I see more and more pronoun options appearing on badges and such. Mine all match - most people's do. But it's important, regardless. I know people all up and down the binary as far as identity and presentation, as well as nonbinary/fluid folks whose presentation doesn't necessarily match their identities (which sometimes change). Some people might be afraid to ask or may come off as initially confused by the various categories, but it's not too hard to understand with a little effort. And yay, being cool to other people. 
 



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From experience, it's actually quite a boring scenario.

 

Person 1: So, Alex went to go see Nicki Minaj perform live the other night. I'm so jealous of him.

Person 2: Them.

Person 1: Ah, sorry. I'm jealous of them. Anyway I heard Nicki was great...

 

[conversation carries on as usual]

 

I'm not trans, but from experience, generally most people don't mind if you mess it up just the once, and apologise immediately afterwards, move on, don't make a big fuss, and don't repeat your mistake? It's not ideal, but it's not necessarily the end of the world.

 

In feminist/LGBTQ meetings, it's nowadays quite common to introduce yourself with 'name and pronouns' so that you know right off the bat how to properly refer to someone. I hope that one day this becomes common enough that whenever you introduce yourself, you automatically introduce your pronouns too, because gender can often be with at complete odds with presentation or expression may typically indicate. In short, you can't really ever tell someone's gender, or their pronouns, by looking at them, it's just that a lot of people happen to look & act in a way that corresponds with what's usually presumed. Even in that scenario, it's quite likely you've interacted with someone who is transgender in your lifetime but isn't out in public, and thus goes by what name/pronouns they were given at birth.

I've actually read about that happening with meetings! Hello everyone I am NeverlandHunter and I prefer the she and her pronouns!

Gender is fascinating in its fluidity and ability to be interpreted and and accepted so differently by so many different people.

I think I've mentioned this story on the thread before, but I'm going to mention it again because it will forever be fresh in my mind!

I was camp counseling at a teen camp this summer and the camp had a zipline set up. Well a very androgynous young lady is about to take her turn ziplining when the zipline instructor mistook her for a boy. He quickly corrected himself before he said "boy, girl, gender is a state of mind, right?" then he shoved her off  :lol: it was a Christian camp too! Poor girl, but what a great surprise!

I wonder how language will change with the previously rigid structures of masculinity and femininity and male and female being torn down? Them and they is already becoming a lot more acceptable in usage for an unknown gender. 

Perhaps gender itself will have less meaning in the future?

I love sociology by the way <3 (and philosophy and psychology) and the progress we've made as a society (although it does seem awfully slow at times) in the past century is amazing! Concepts and standards that have been the norm since the beginning of civilization are being questioned and rethought. Of course there have always been exceptions, but for the most part gender roles and identities weren't something that were challenged very often before.

And I went of on a tangent... ignore ignore.

 

And then an ant bit his toe? :D

A question, were ants always real? Because I can't imagine ants were to effected by the construction of the Veil, so Solas's ants are our ants... so people were listed below ants on the important life list...  :lol: oh Solas sometimes I want to strangle you, sometimes I want to kiss you, but I always want to shove a fistful of sense into that stubborn bald head of yours!


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I've actually read about that happening with meetings! Hello everyone I am NeverlandHunter and I prefer the she and her pronouns!

Gender is fascinating in its fluidity and ability to be interpreted and and accepted so differently by so many different people.

I think I've mentioned this story on the thread before, but I'm going to mention it again because it will forever be fresh in my mind!

I was camp counseling at a teen camp this summer and the camp had a zipline set up. Well a very androgynous young lady is about to take her turn ziplining when the zipline instructor mistook her for a boy. He quickly corrected himself before he said "boy, girl, gender is a state of mind, right?" then he shoved her off  :lol: it was a Christian camp too! Poor girl, but what a great surprise!

I wonder how language will change with the previously rigid structures of masculinity and femininity and male and female being torn down? Them and they is already becoming a lot more acceptable in usage for an unknown gender. 

Perhaps gender itself will have less meaning in the future?

I love sociology by the way <3 (and philosophy and psychology) and the progress we've made as a society (although it does seem awfully slow at times) in the past century is amazing! Concepts and standards that have been the norm since the beginning of civilization are being questioned and rethought. Of course there have always been exceptions, but for the most part gender roles and identities weren't something that were challenged very often before.

And I went of on a tangent... ignore ignore.

 

A question, were ants always real? Because I can't imagine ants were to effected by the construction of the Veil, so Solas's ants are our ants... so people were listed below ants on the important life list...  :lol: oh Solas sometimes I want to strangle you, sometimes I want to kiss you, but I always want to shove a fistful of sense into that stubborn bald head of yours!

Does this mean Nugs aren't real to Solas?

 

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Putting my 1,5 year old to sleep is a chore.

This on repeat makes it much easier. hah.

She'll speak elvhen before english, arabic or czech.

 

 

Seriously though. Solas' POV is harder than I thought.

My chapter text at the moment contains two words. "Solas POV."

Screw that egg.


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Putting my 1,5 year old to sleep is a chore.

This on repeat makes it much easier. hah.

She'll speak elvhen before english, arabic or czech.

 

 

Seriously though. Solas' POV is harder than I thought.

My chapter text at the moment contains two words. "Solas POV."

Screw that egg.

That struggle is real and I know your pain.



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Neverland, once again, we seem to be twin souls. You are totally now my anime buddy. 

 

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We shall bring anime to all the gremlins of Thedas! Let Solas realize the greatness of humanity and the potential of all peoples everywhere!

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RL cat owner problem.

 

When you're trying to type out something but your cat thinks it's time to groom your hands.


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RL cat own problem.

 

When you're trying to type out something but your cat thinks it's time to groom your hands.

My cats have 10 and 11 kilograms. Can't ignore those, if they decide you shall pay attention.

 

I found this today (same author as my Icon.)

I love it, really, on multiple levels. And although I know it's Princess Mononoke, it's also teeny bit Solavellan. If you think hard enough.

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Does this mean Nugs aren't real to Solas?

 

=(

Were nugs around during the time of Elfy Great Kingdom?

If they weren't then they are abominations of Gremlin design!

 

Putting my 1,5 year old to sleep is a chore.

This on repeat makes it much easier. hah.

She'll speak elvhen before english, arabic or czech.

 

 

Seriously though. Solas' POV is harder than I thought.

My chapter text at the moment contains two words. "Solas POV."

Screw that egg.

You speak all those!? That's awesome :D not just for knowing three languages but ones that are from such different families too! 

Elven is the best though!

Goodness, it can be awful putting kids to sleep. I spent this past summer day babysitting my newborn niece and 2 year old nephew and the summer before that night babysitting my 4 year old nephew, at the time 2 year old niece, and less than 1 year old nephew and I all I can say about that is ohmygoshI'mneverhavingkidsever. Spawn, they're all spawn. Evil incarnate hidden behind the cherub faces of innocence and youth.


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A question, were ants always real? Because I can't imagine ants were to effected by the construction of the Veil, so Solas's ants are our ants... so people were listed below ants on the important life list...  :lol: oh Solas sometimes I want to strangle you, sometimes I want to kiss you, but I always want to shove a fistful of sense into that stubborn bald head of yours!

 

Since they called him the Dread Wolf, they probably ahd wolves back then, so why not ants as well? I think the Veil affected mostly magical and sentient creatures. Some plants and animals may have been harmed by it, but I think it was mostly a by-product of the general chaos, not a direct effect of the Veil.

 

As a location comment in the Emerald Graves, Solas sighs and says sadly, "These trees will likely outlive us all." That makes me think that whatever his plan is, nature itself will survive it.

 

He seems to care and be interested in nugs, wolves, and probably other animals as well. I think he likes animals, and wants to protect them and preserve nature as much as he can. 

 

My HC is that in the beginning of the game he does not actually know how different the gremlins are from ants. He says they seemed like Tranquil to him. So can they feel? They seem to experience some emotion apart from the most base hunger, fear, and desire, but to what extent can they truly feel? Can they reach the emotional and spiritual depths of elven souls? Can they truly appreciate wisdom, kindness, compassion, beauty the way the elves can? 

 

It must be very sad to be him at the beginning of the game. Imagine thinking you're the only survivor of a cataclysm along with a bunch of incredibly superficial dumb people, who cannot challenge you intellectually or care about anything you care about. Now, you might be wrong and realize you have misjudged them. But if you believe you're in this situation in the beginning, you'll probably be miserable. 


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We shall bring anime to all the gremlins of Thedas! Let Solas realize the greatness of humanity and the potential of all peoples everywhere!

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Hmm, I don't know what Solas will think of humanity if I show him my favorite anime shows. Apart from FMA and Fate Zero, he'd probably be horrified by the things I watch.

 

Oooh, another DAI/anime crossover: Solas vs the grils from Girls und Panzer  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:



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Were nugs around during the time of Elfy Great Kingdom?

If they weren't then they are abominations of Gremlin design!

 

You speak all those!? That's awesome :D not just for knowing three languages but ones that are from such different families too! 

Elven is the best though!

Goodness, it can be awful putting kids to sleep. I spent this past summer day babysitting my newborn niece and 2 year old nephew and the summer before that night babysitting my 4 year old nephew, at the time 2 year old niece, and less than 1 year old nephew and I all I can say about that is ohmygoshI'mneverhavingkidsever. Spawn, they're all spawn. Evil incarnate hidden behind the cherub faces of innocence and youth.

You learn to cope, really. Starting with "Sleep is overrated." (Followed by a hysterical whimper.)

My arabic is rather atrocious, and mainly passive, but I definitely do speak czech (my native tongue) and english (hah! didn't expect that, right? :P )

My husband's czech is in similar state as my arabic.

My kids have a three way mishmash and noone but us ever understands them.

Fun though.

 

I need fluff today.

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Since they called him the Dread Wolf, they probably ahd wolves back then, so why not ants as well? I think the Veil affected mostly magical and sentient creatures. Some plants and animals may have been harmed by it, but I think it was mostly a by-product of the general chaos, not a direct effect of the Veil.

 

As a location comment in the Emerald Graves, Solas sighs and says sadly, "These trees will likely outlive us all." That makes me think that whatever his plan is, nature itself will survive it.

 

He seems to care and be interested in nugs, wolves, and probably other animals as well. I think he likes animals, and wants to protect them and preserve nature as much as he can. 

 

My HC is that in the beginning of the game he does not actually know how different the gremlins are from ants. He says they seemed like Tranquil to him. So can they feel? They seem to experience some emotion apart from the most base hunger, fear, and desire, but to what extent can they truly feel? Can they reach the emotional and spiritual depths of elven souls? Can they truly appreciate wisdom, kindness, compassion, beauty the way the elves can? 

 

It must be very sad to be him at the beginning of the game. Imagine thinking you're the only survivor of a cataclysm along with a bunch of incredibly superficial dumb people, who cannot challenge you intellectually or care about anything you care about. Now, you might be wrong and realize you have misjudged them. But if you believe you're in this situation in the beginning, you'll probably be miserable. 

Hmm, *digging around for sympathy, remembers how he made Lavellan feel* nope!

No, I'm joking (mostly) I do sympathize for the situation Solas was in. I can only imagine his first interactions with people... I'm both laughing and feeling sad at the same time imagining it!

I agree that Solas luvs nature! It's just crazy to think that he probably (originally) valued wildlife more than people life.


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You learn to cope, really. Starting with "Sleep is overrated." (Followed by a hysterical whimper.)

My arabic is rather atrocious, and mainly passive, but I definitely do speak czech (my native tongue) and english (hah! didn't expect that, right? :P )

My husband's czech is in similar state as my arabic.

My kids have a three way mishmash and noone but us ever understands them.

Fun though.

 

I need fluff today.

Edit: Damn,too big.

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Yeah....pretty much.


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Random: Another gorgeous dress that I can see my Lavellan wearing.

https://www.facebook...2615279/?type=3


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Random: Another gorgeous dress that I can see my Lavellan wearing.

https://www.facebook...2615279/?type=3

Wow, that is beautiful.


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Ahh. Finally found my way back to the warm shallows of the hellspiral. I think I'll hang out here for a while before replaying Lavellan and diving back in :P

Galactic domination really takes the edge off the heartache :D
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*typing out cheesy water fight prompt*

 

*giggling like I'm in high school again*

 

Writingz iz for funz.


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Hmm, I don't know what Solas will think of humanity if I show him my favorite anime shows. Apart from FMA and Fate Zero, he'd probably be horrified by the things I watch.

 

Oooh, another DAI/anime crossover: Solas vs the grils from Girls und Panzer  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Haven't watched that one either! I'm failing you Drosophila!

XD Solas would say he was horrified but you know he marathoned those shows!

 

You learn to cope, really. Starting with "Sleep is overrated." (Followed by a hysterical whimper.)

My arabic is rather atrocious, and mainly passive, but I definitely do speak czech (my native tongue) and english (hah! didn't expect that, right? :P )

My husband's czech is in similar state as my arabic.

My kids have a three way mishmash and noone but us ever understands them.

Fun though.

 

I need fluff today.

Edit: Damn,too big.

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They aren't my spawn! I don't want to learn to cope! Do you want to know what my sisters paid me for nannying their kids for a summer? Nothing. I did it out of the charitable goodness of my heart, and the only thing I got out of it is a cavity where my soul was that the spawn consumed.

Honestly I love kids, and I adore my nieces and nephew, but there were points when I felt like I was one scream away from jumping out the window and leaving them to fend for themselves. And that was for two summers... people do it everyday *shudders*

 

That's really cute about your kids! They're so young and already developing some awesome language skills :D What usually gets spoken most often in front of them and to them?

 

I like that picture... but seeing happy Solas and Lavellan makes me sad now :(

Look what you gave up Solas!



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Haven't watched that one either! I'm failing you Drosophila!

XD Solas would say he was horrified but you know he marathoned those shows!

 

They aren't my spawn! I don't want to learn to cope! Do you want to know what my sisters paid me for nannying their kids for a summer? Nothing. I did it out of the charitable goodness of my heart, and the only thing I got out of it is a cavity where my soul was that the spawn consumed.

Honestly I love kids, and I adore my nieces and nephew, but they were points when I felt like I was one scream away from jumping out the window and leaving them to fend for themselves. And that was for two summers... people do it everyday *shudders*

 

That's really cute about your kids! They're so young and already developing some awesome language skills :D What usually gets spoken most often in front of them and to them?

 

I like that picture... but seeing happy Solas and Lavellan makes me sad now :(

Look what you gave up Solas!

It's a totally different feel when you look at them and think Like, you'll be having a bad day with them and then they turn to you, do something cute and you're all like "Awww, that little spawn grew inside me. That's cool." It's like a reset button you get when dealing with your own children.


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