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omg wow haha I just got an invite to my (Pagan) friend's Hallowe'en wedding and the theme is "masked and mysterious" and most people are going to be wearing masquerade masks and you have to be masked when you arrive so now I'm frantically looking online for something cool that will also arrive on time (:D

 

i feel like I'm off to halamshiral


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The blanket fort will be here for you.  I'll be here in the feels corner for a while


I'm currently stuck. If you guys don't mind, can you help me out?

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Yes. Here are pictures of my two kittehs.

 

Doctor Merlin Jones

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Professor Abercrombie Bum

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And an accurate illustration comparing eating habits.

 

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They are like my Chai & Cheetah.

Chai looks REALLY similar to Merlin just with medium fur length instead of long, and Cheetah shares color scheme and some of the pattern with Crombie and their faces are really similar.

Chai eats like a pig and litters the floor with food, Cheetah eats in small quantities and never spills food.


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I'm currently stuck. If you guys don't mind, can you help me out?

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:o

They are like my Chai & Cheetah.

Chai looks REALLY similar to Merlin just with medium fur length instead of long, and Cheetah shares color scheme and some of the pattern with Crombie and their faces are really similar.

Chai eats like a pig and litters the floor with food, Cheetah eats in small quantities and never spills food.

It's the same story every morning. I wake up and while I'm making coffee Merlin is freaking out, falling over himself asking for food in his dish while Crombie just casually slinks around doing these little 'meeeeew' sounds while occasionally making out with a wall corner.

 

I love cats.

 

Like, if I lived alone, I would be a crazy cat lady. The world would do well to make sure I don't live alone when I get older.


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It's the same story every morning. I wake up and while I'm making coffee Merlin is freaking out, falling over himself asking for food in his dish while Crombie just casually slinks around doing these little 'meeeeew' sounds while occasionally making out with a wall corner.

 

I love cats.

 

Like, if I lived alone, I would be a crazy cat lady. The world would do well to make sure I don't live alone when I get older.

 

Oh my god that's exactly like that, only Chai goes beyond that - if he doesn't get food on time he starts wrecking the house >_>

Cheetah's all perfect, giving me eyes, "making out" with the wall corner (and.. corners of other stuff like boxes).


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I love cats.

 

Like, if I lived alone, I would be a crazy cat lady. The world would do well to make sure I don't live alone when I get older.

 

Cats are a little inscrutable and independent for me. They're cute, they can be sweet, but I get dogs, and they get me. I'd be that lady with 10 dogs.



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omg wow haha I just got an invite to my (Pagan) friend's Hallowe'en wedding and the theme is "masked and mysterious" and most people are going to be wearing masquerade masks and you have to be masked when you arrive so now I'm frantically looking online for something cool that will also arrive on time ( :D

 

i feel like I'm off to halamshiral

Well there is this Orlesian mask from Etsy. :P

A bit pricey.

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And a ton of other nice ones but this time of year, they're really easy to find.

I've always loved masks but could never wear them because my glasses get in the way.  :crying:


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Speaking of dogs, I am here with a hot cup of tea and giggling over this pic (I think it was Shari'El posted) of doggieSolas tea face.

 

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Speaking of dogs, I am here with a hot cup of tea and giggling over this pic (I think it was Shari'El posted) of doggieSolas tea face.

 

Hahaha  :lol:

I remember posting that, the way he moves his hand over his nose is just like an unsatisfied cat/dog.

 

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Well there is this Orlesian mask from Etsy. :P

A bit pricey.

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And a ton of other nice ones but this time of year, they're really easy to find.

I've always loved masks but could never wear them because my glasses get in the way.  :crying:

Oooh!! Etsy is a really smart idea thankyou! :)

 

I **** you not I just got informed it's in a place called a "palace" ahaha. winter gardens and all. who wrote the story of my life


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Hahaha  :lol:

I remember posting that, the way he moves his hand over his nose is just like an unsatisfied cat/dog.

 

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Man, I'm kinda glad my DAI stuff isn't that popular. I'd hate to tune in to the thread just in time to see my stuff getting roasted.  :unsure:

 

Also what drosophila said above is true. Having worked on some actual original for-cash-money stuff, I have to say my fic process is a whole lotta different. Fics get just as much love, but a lot less polish. (And that's saying something when, as my own "editor" -- sob -- I often re-read my fic work until it's reduced to nonsensical words just banging around together before I dare to publish it. Much like how repeating a word enough times makes it stop sounding like a word.)


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Okay, so, update on my reading of Feynite's fanfiction: Decided to skip Dread Wolf's Heart for now. I'll come back to it later if Looking Glass manages to impress which... it hasn't, so far. To that end -

 

(Spoilered because some people don't care and others probably won't like what I have to say about this)

 

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*Sigh* This is why I hate fix-it fic. It rarely pays any respect to what it's fixing.

 

I disagree.

 

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Well, Solas is wrong on a few things. Tea, I would count among them. :D


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Man, I'm kinda glad my DAI stuff isn't that popular. I'd hate to tune in to the thread just in time to see my stuff getting roasted.  :unsure:

 

Also what drosophila said above is true. Having worked on some actual original for-cash-money stuff, I have to say my fic process is a whole lotta different. Fics get just as much love, but a lot less polish. (And that's saying something when, as my own "editor" -- sob -- I often re-read my fic work until it's reduced to nonsensical words just banging around together before I dare to publish it. Much like how repeating a word enough times makes it stop sounding like a word.)

or stolen (not that anyone in this thread has ever stolen from me or anyone else to my knowledge haha). that's fun too >__> 

nooo i'm not salty still NO U


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In defense of any and all fanfic anywhere: This is something people usually do for free in their spare time, it's purely a labor of love. I don't demand as much once I have stared at a screen blackly for thirdy minutes at 2 am, because this is when I found the time to write something after a day full of work, and my brain is fried, my eyes just want to close, but I still want to do this, damnit. 

 

Apart from the occasional beta readers (also volunteers!), fanfic writers lack the support system of agents/editors/publishers to make a finished, polished product. And even when this support is present, the final product will never make everyone happy. It just can't. People have such different tastes, just think of all the criticism voiced at Bioware writers. 

 

Finally, this is purely from experience of getting a non-fiction piece of text published, but the amount of time and effort to remove those last few annoying details to make a polished product is astronomical compared to the amount of time required to just write something. 

 

Well said, while I do wish that some writers would be less sensitive to well-meaning constructive tactful criticism, I do feel very appreciative of what they are doing. When I read Feynite's works, I feel like I should be paying for it. (Yeah, total fangirl right here.)

 

Edit: Inserted "some" for clarification.


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Well said, while I do wish that writers would be less sensitive to well-meaning constructive tactful criticism, I do feel very appreciative of what they are doing. When I read Feynite's works, I feel like I should be paying for it. (Yeah, total fangirl right here.)

 

You keep calling writers sensitive, overly sensitive, and calling your criticism constructive and well-meaning, but maybe try flipping your perspective a bit. There's nothing wrong with sensitivity. You frame it as a negative thing. That said, sometimes the most well-meaning criticism can still come off as intrusive or be something a creator doesn't want to engage with. You refer to your criticism in terms of a helpful gift of sorts, but for some, it might not come off that way, and it's not necessarily that a creator is sensitive. I think calling people thin-skinned or in other ways putting a type of blame on the creators comes off a bit....smug?

 

In any case, asking someone if criticism is wanted first is a good rule to abide by and also not coming away calling people overly sensitive if they don't want it


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You keep calling writers sensitive, overly sensitive, and calling your criticism constructive and well-meaning, but maybe try flipping your perspective a bit. There's nothing wrong with sensitivity. You frame it as a negative thing. That said, sometimes the most well-meaning criticism can still come off as intrusive or be something a creator doesn't want to engage with. You refer to your criticism in terms of a helpful gift of sorts, but for some, it might not come off that way, and it's not necessarily that a creator is sensitive. I think calling people thin-skinned or in other ways putting a type of blame on the creators comes off a bit....smug?

 

In any case, asking someone if criticism is wanted first is a good rule to abide by and also not coming away calling people overly sensitive if they don't want it

 

I'm not calling people overly sensitive to their face lol, although that is how I feel about it. It's just a difference in values. Also, I don't think all writers are overly sensitive. I've read comments elsewhere in which fanfic writers feel as I do about criticism and what it means to publicize your work. It's just that from what I've learned of the fanfic culture based on what people told me on here, it seems more sensitive compared to what I experience in my daily life. As for asking if criticism is wanted, that is indeed a good rule to abide by. My assumption of course is that when one puts their work in the public space, it is expected that their work would be judged and that they will receive criticism. This is the first time I've heard of a niche in the internet in which this general rule is not followed. It would be nice for fanfic sites to note that for first time readers.

 

Edit: There is nothing wrong with sensitivity, but any trait taken to an extreme is not adaptive.


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I typed up a huge post on the topic, and then it got eaten. So here's a tumblr link from a month ago that's relevant, and I'll keep digging for another post I have in mind but naturally didn't tag because reasons. (Reasons I don't even know, but I'm sure there's some reasons involved.)

 

Something else I've heard and agree with is the 15 minute fix-it rule. Just like someone's appearance IRL. If it can be fixed in 15 minutes or less and you feel like it's something that needs pointing out, okay.  (Your shirt's inside out. Your fly is open.) If it's something like "your smile is goofy looking" then maybe it's time for... you know, silent contemplation. I can suggest a few topics to contemplate on. ;)

 

Same IMO goes for fan art and fic writing. ****, did I make someone's hair the wrong color? I leave out a rip in someone's clothes in a sequential panel? I can fix that fast! Did I pose someone in a way you don't like? Well, I'm 20 hours in and either you're going to annoy me or I'll agree and abandon the picture and that's shitty. You ain't commissioned me, so maybe it's time for silent contemplation again.

 

****, I left in some typos? I can fix that fast! You... you don't like that my Warden is absolutely bug-f*** crazy? Silent. Contemplation. I ain't asked you; you ain't bought this book; this ain't amazon.com. If you don't like the free stuff I put on the internets then please stop readin' it.

 

I ask for concrit on a picture and an arm is a bit wonky looking? Valid. I hadn't caught that. Good job!

 

I don't ask for concrit on a picture because I've already noticed thirty things wrong with it, and you tell me the arm is wonky? Either I already knew and now I'm like OH GOD IT WAS THAT OBVIOUS FSDFLKSDF or you just made it item #31. Which isn't actually helpful because I'm already overwhelmed in things to work on for the next picture. Like teeth. Teeth are bloody hard, okay. And mouths? Mouths are sphincters do you know how hard it is to draw a flat sphincter and make it look appealing when you just think of it as a sphincter with protruding teeth bones on the other side and--

 

Y'get the idea, I hope. All my personal opinion, of course, but one I've had a lot of folks agree with in the past.


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I'm not calling people overly sensitive to their face lol, although that is how I feel about it. It's just a difference in values. Also, I don't think all writers are overly sensitive. I've read comments elsewhere in which fanfic writers feel as I do about criticism and what it means to publicize your work. It's just that from what I've learned of the fanfic culture based on what people told me on here, it seems more sensitive compared to what I experience in my daily life. As for asking if criticism is wanted, that is indeed a good rule to abide by. My assumption of course is that when one puts their work in the public space, it is expected that their work would be judged and that they will receive criticism. This is the first time I've heard of a niche in the internet in which this general rule is not followed. It would be nice for fanfic sites to note that for first time readers.

 

Edit: There is nothing wrong with sensitivity, but any trait taken to an extreme is not adaptive.

 

Agreed.  IMO (sometimes) the attitude in fandom toward criticism (whether of fanfiction, fanart, or even the original work itself) isn't a matter of sensitivity.  In fact, that's not even the term I would use.  IMO it's a matter of unrealistic social expectation.  

 

It's perfectly reasonable to expect people to be courteous and thoughtful toward you, yes even on the big bad Internet.  There's no reason to be a jerk just because you're hiding your identity.  But it is IMO unreasonable to expect everyone who interacts with you to like and/or agree with you. That's not just an Internet thing, or a fandom thing.  That's a basic life thing.  There's no maliciousness behind it, or condescension.  It's just part of interacting as a social species.

 


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I disagree. Feynite's Lavellan is the only one I've read so far who is believable as a leader of the Inquisition. I don't get a Mary Sue vibe. I sense a strong character whose major flaw is that she loves Solas too much and perhaps the world wouldn't have been destroyed had she killed him when she had the chance. She's emotional, but not immature. She fully acknowledges that her behavior towards Wolf was petty, but was not able to stop herself. This makes her flawed, yet sympathetic.

I mean, yeah, disagree! I'd love to get some discussion going.

 

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Agreed.  IMO (sometimes) the attitude in fandom toward criticism (whether of fanfiction, fanart, or even the original work itself) isn't a matter of sensitivity.  In fact, that's not even the term I would use.  IMO it's a matter of unrealistic social expectation.  

 

It's perfectly reasonable to expect people to be courteous and thoughtful toward you, yes even on the big bad Internet.  There's no reason to be a jerk just because you're hiding your identity.  But it is IMO unreasonable to expect everyone who interacts with you to like and/or agree with you. That's not just an Internet thing, or a fandom thing.  That's a basic life thing.  There's no maliciousness behind it, or condescension.  It's just part of interacting as a social species.

 

 

Ok, this is a much better term. Anyway, it's funny because it turns out that the author I was worried about was actually not offended by me at all. So I guess I was indeed tactful in my small critique. That is a relief.



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I typed up a huge post on the topic, and then it got eaten. So here's a tumblr link from a month ago that's relevant, and I'll keep digging for another post I have in mind but naturally didn't tag because reasons. (Reasons I don't even know, but I'm sure there's some reasons involved.)

 

Something else I've heard and agree with is the 15 minute fix-it rule. Just like someone's appearance IRL. If it can be fixed in 15 minutes or less and you feel like it's something that needs pointing out, okay.  (Your shirt's inside out. Your fly is open.) If it's something like "your smile is goofy looking" then maybe it's time for... you know, silent contemplation. I can suggest a few topics to contemplate on. ;)

 

Same IMO goes for fan art and fic writing. ****, did I make someone's hair the wrong color? I leave out a rip in someone's clothes in a sequential panel? I can fix that fast! Did I pose someone in a way you don't like? Well, I'm 20 hours in and either you're going to annoy me or I'll agree and abandon the picture and that's shitty. You ain't commissioned me, so maybe it's time for silent contemplation again.

 

****, I left in some typos? I can fix that fast! You... you don't like that my Warden is absolutely bug-f*** crazy? Silent. Contemplation. I ain't asked you; you ain't bought this book; this ain't amazon.com. If you don't like the free stuff I put on the internets then please stop readin' it.

 

I ask for concrit on a picture and an arm is a bit wonky looking? Valid. I hadn't caught that. Good job!

 

I don't ask for concrit on a picture because I've already noticed thirty things wrong with it, and you tell me the arm is wonky? Either I already knew and now I'm like OH GOD IT WAS THAT OBVIOUS FSDFLKSDF or you just made it item #31. Which isn't actually helpful because I'm already overwhelmed in things to work on for the next picture. Like teeth. Teeth are bloody hard, okay. And mouths? Mouths are sphincters do you know how hard it is to draw a flat sphincter and make it look appealing when you just think of it as a sphincter with protruding teeth bones on the other side and--

 

Y'get the idea, I hope. All my personal opinion, of course, but one I've had a lot of folks agree with in the past.

 

I'm never going to look at mouths in the same way again... ever  :lol:


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