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[Kadan]

I feel responsible for starting the whole critique fan fics discussion. When I read someones work the first thing I'm thinking is did it make me feel something? Did it hold my interest? Did it make me think about something in a different way? And I admit I twitch at excessive poor grammar, unless it's intentional  for a character personality and dialogue. I often ignore minor typos and punctuation mistakes because I know how hard those are to find in my own work. I can read through it a dozen times and the moment I post it I find another half dozen errors! One thing I do not criticize is their character development or their style. I am far from an English lit pro so I save those opinions for someone better qualified than me. I may say that in general I dislike a concept, but that is general. I have often found stories that pull off a concept that I find less appealing and get pulled in by their writing and point of view. I feel the same about music. I have no one genre that I like more than others, and i have others that I don't like, aside from a few songs that are very well done or 'speak' to me no matter the genre. I look at fiction the same way.

 

As for my earlier issue, I don't know who the writer is and I won't call attention to their work, I don't want to shame anyone or make them feel bad. I do not think it is anyone that has been in this thread and been part of any discussions. I apologize if I made anyone question their own writing. I have had stuff stolen/plagiarized in the past, and while this isn't that it struck a too familiar cord, and I'm a bit sensitive about sharing my stuff for that reason. It is, unfortunately an issue with the internet and large fan based communities and happens more often than it used to.

[drosophila]

I feel responsible for starting the whole critique fan fics discussion.

 

No, no, I think it was me as usual. People were discussing different fics and I had thoughts, which I wrote up in a post. foot ----> mouth

 

But discussion doesn't have to be a bad thing. Everyhting people posted made me realize all these things people care about. Like punctuation. 

[Homeboundcrib]

Hello Solas tread sorry to derail you off your topic but I just wanted to say thank you to all of you. I have decided to pick up drawing again after 5 long years lol. I see you guys doing all these awesome pics and fanfics. And you's have inspired me to pick up the pencil so thank you. I have done 3 so far all animals cause I can only draw animals lol there okay I think it has been 5 years lol. So again thanks guys

[Sable Rhapsody]

I... It seems fine.

Spoiler

"Back in the captain's cabin, Diane sat on the bed, fingering her wand."

I could string together a coherent sentence, I'll give teenage me that. Thanks, 10th grade English. But the plot and characters meander all over the place. And word choice is, as you pointed out, not great

[drosophila]

Hello Solas tread sorry to derail you off your topic but I just wanted to say thank you to all of you. I have decided to pick up drawing again after 5 long years lol. I see you guys doing all these awesome pics and fanfics. And you's have inspired me to pick up the pencil so thank you. I have done 3 so far all animals cause I can only draw animals lol there okay I think it has been 5 years lol. So again thanks guys

 

When you're ready, don't be shy to share!

[Eivuwan]

I feel responsible for starting the whole critique fan fics discussion.

 

*snip*

 

 

Actually, I started it when I asked a question yesterday about the etiquette of critiquing fanfic.

[drosophila]

I could string together a coherent sentence, I'll give teenage me that. Thanks, 10th grade English. But the plot and characters meander all over the place. And word choice is, as you pointed out, not great

 

Those were some excellently chosen words  It was greatly helped by the fact that I like Pirates of the Carribean. 

 

It needs more slow arrow though. 

[Arshes Nei]

Haha, I was one of the people who freaked out a little about Kadan's issue. I had just made an AO3 account and posted a fic for the first time also...so yeah thought I had accidentally made something unoriginal  . Lol on that note, I also wanted to ask for some critiques from ya'll since there are so many writers here and I know a few of those don't like the modern people in thedas so I was hoping you would be extra critiquey . Always like when there is something that people who hate the genre can find to like, be it style, grammar, character, language, etc...  Can also feel free to ignore, no worries! off to try and bother Kissiebear

 

http://archiveofouro...apters/11580283

[drosophila]

Actually, I started it when I asked a question yesterday about the etiquette of critiquing fanfic.

 

I love how we all claim responsibility for this 

[Cee]

No, no, I think it was me as usual. People were discussing different fics and I had thoughts, which I wrote up in a post. foot ----> mouth

 

No
 

We discuss so many topics and it's something we have had some interesting perspectives on, I think.

[Homeboundcrib]

When you're ready, don't be shy to share!

Thanks heaps I'm on my phone I don't know how to put pics up from a phone lol and yes I'm not joking, 22 and not good with phones or computers hahaha.

[figment_]

Please excuse my butting in.

 

Some individuals who are deemed (or judged) "overly sensitive" may be dealing with intensely personal issues such as depression, individual life circumstances, shyness, or severe social anxiety. I feel that it's highly inappropriate to label or be judgmental of another person's likes, preferences or emotional status, especially over the internet. Please be considerate when expressing yourself in response to another's art, work, or life, especially when it's someone you don't know...

 

Just my two cents.

 

 

*goes back to lurking*

[Ellawynn]

Considering that her fanfiction seems to be a "stream of consciousness" type of thing (spontaneously written, with not many substantial edits, even if thought out in her head) I can't help being impressed with her writing - I just wouldn't be able to do this without eventually eating my tail. I'm the perfectionist type who spends way too much time obsessing over details and have tendency to run around in circles.

Oh, yeah, gotta admire her rate of output. I wish I could write that much in so little time. As it is, I write a bit in one go and then lay about being creatively drained for days. 

 

 

 

In any case, I can see flaws and issues, but I can't say I feel the same about Lavellan as some here do. Yes, sometimes she can be unfair towards, say, young!Solas and the elves, but that's the point. She's literally put in Solas's shoes and she reacts near identically to him, if not worse (which I am not surprised by, the woman has suffered through the destruction of everything she loved and didn't have a millenia-old nap to at least get over some of it. Let the girl get some things out of her system).

 

There's a reason why the fic is called Looking Glass (basically, mirror) after all   - so yes, I read all her reactions and perhaps a bit of hypocrisy/kneejerk reaction as mostly intentional. As for the Author's Darling status... a bit, perhaps? 

 

 

Spoiler

Then I guess it's a good thing we see nothing from early Inquisition!Solas because or I'd probably be rather displeased with him, too. I can understand if it's intentional but still, nonetheless, extremely frustrating for me to get through. Everytime she says something about the elves, I just want to grab her shoulders and shout "Get over yourself! You aren't any better than them!"

 

Outside of maaaaaybe Solas, I don't think a single individual who's dismissed her as a non-person has been portrayed in anything resembling a sympathetic light. Where's the nuance to that? The subtlety, the balance? Is there truly nothing redeeming about this world or it's people? Either you agree with Lavellan and see her as a person or you're a jerkbag with no positive qualities?

 

(And, seriously, she masters magic literally within a day, without even trying?)

 

[Arshes Nei]

Hello Solas tread sorry to derail you off your topic but I just wanted to say thank you to all of you. I have decided to pick up drawing again after 5 long years lol. I see you guys doing all these awesome pics and fanfics. And you's have inspired me to pick up the pencil so thank you. I have done 3 so far all animals cause I can only draw animals lol there okay I think it has been 5 years lol. So again thanks guys

It was these guys who made me write after more than a decade.... I BLAME YOU ALL!

[Cee]

 

Um, advancing the knowledge of mankind

 

Also, if you REALLY wanna be inspired, I managed to drudge up my teenage fanfiction attempts with alarmingly little effort.  Part of me wants to expunge it from the Internet right now, but it's so hilariously dire.

 

I present for the Blanketfort's amusement, 16-year-old Sable's attempts at (an unfinished) Harry Potter/Pirates of the Caribbean crossover.  Featuring, of course, Mary Sue as protagonist.

 

This is pretty adorable. I mean, I feel Elizabeth all over it and you've got references and things she probably wouldn't know. And ...stuff.

 

But we do all have to start somewhere, and this is far from terrible or anything. I've seen much worse.

[S.W.]

Please excuse my butting in.
 
Some individuals who are deemed (or judged) "overly sensitive" may be dealing with intensely personal issues such as depression, individual life circumstances, shyness, or severe social anxiety. I feel that it's highly inappropriate to label or be judgmental of another person's likes, preferences or emotional status, especially over the internet. Please be considerate when expressing yourself in response to another's art, work, or life, especially when it's someone you don't know...
 
Just my two cents.
 

 
*goes back to lurking*

^ This is one of the main reasons why I stopped judging people based on their reception of criticism.

[Cee]

Please excuse my butting in.

 

Some individuals who are deemed (or judged) "overly sensitive" may be dealing with intensely personal issues such as depression, individual life circumstances, shyness, or severe social anxiety. I feel that it's highly inappropriate to label or be judgmental of another person's likes, preferences or emotional status, especially over the internet. Please be considerate when expressing yourself in response to another's art, work, or life, especially when it's someone you don't know...

 

Just my two cents.

 

 

*goes back to lurking*

 

Not butting in. This is something that I decided to speak up on because, as a person who is simply wired to be sensitive, man, I've gotten the "overly sensitive" or "thin-skinned" or sensitivity-as-weakness stuff tossed at me for a long time. Though I did also go through serious depression and anxiety too, it took me some time to come to understand that no, I'm just a sensitive person, but sensitivity in itself isn't a code word for weak or unable to take criticism. It's more about how one processes the world but it can sometimes lead to a feeling of overload or anxiety if one feels overly monitored or observed.

[figment_]

Not butting in. This is something that I decided to speak up on because, as a person who is simply wired to be sensitive, man, I've gotten the "overly sensitive" or "thin-skinned" or sensitivity-as-weakness stuff tossed at me for a long time. Though I did also go through serious depression and anxiety too, it took me some time to come to understand that no, I'm just a sensitive person, but sensitivity in itself isn't a code word for weak or unable to take criticism. It's more about how one processes the world but it can sometimes lead to a feeling of overload or anxiety if one feels overly monitored or observed.

Actually, I probably would've contributed to the discussion more, but I'm a veritable train-wreck right now. I have a totally nasty sleep disorder that's rearing it's ugly head and I'm 'xhausted...

 

So please don't take offense to anything I might say right now, I probably shouldn't be typing.

 

PS. "Thumper Rule"

       "Judge not lest ye be judged"

[drosophila]

I'll say it again. Sensitivity as a stregth. A major strength. 

[MayriyaNoori]

I love how we all claim responsibility for this 

Pfft not me.

Howeve, I will take the blame for any Antivan spirals that happen.

[NeverlandHunter]

Hello my fellow threaders! 

 

So I was rewatching the Solas Trespasser scene for the hundredth or so time and I decided I wanted to discuss some of the things that have been stirring around in my head about the scene.

 

First, as your Inquisitor walks through the Eluvian she leaves a few things behind, namely her weapon(s) and her companions. On an amusing note, all your companions gather around the center of the area before you enter the Eluvian. I ran around them after I reloaded to watch the Solas scene again for the first time and shouted at the screen cursing them for not coming with me. Look guys, I know couples having relationship problems are awkward to be around, but I need some emotional support!

 

I imagine what actually happened was as soon as the Inquisitor entered the Eluvian Solas closed it... closing it on your weapon(s) too. Although I won't get into the improbability of him being able to sense the difference between you, your weapons, and your clothing, through a mirror teleporter, a distance away from said mirror teleporter.

 

Anywho, as you walk through the Eluvian you're bombarded by stone Qunari all facing the mirror. Which, I may be missing something, but weren't the Qunari chasing Solas? Why would they be facing the mirror you have to come through to get in that area? Wouldn't Solas have already been there? Maybe he was playing hide-and-go-seek behind the Eluvian? Anyone have any better explanations? It was a cool scene regardless.

 

My next thought. After Solas is done speaking to the Qunari woman he turns around an starts walking away from her, presumably towards the other Eluvian. He must realize the Inquisitor is there though, if not for the mirror closing trick then for the Mark getting closer. And he's already shown he has some sense of people behind him since he did the Medusa thing to what's-her-rank. Yet he continues to walk away even as the Inquisitor shows up behind him and it isn't until she speaks his name that he stops walking and turns towards her. 

 

Also, thank you Mark for waiting until the Inquisitor brought you up before you went all "killkillkill" on her again. But actually I'm going to over analyze that... cuz I can

What if Solas was actively holding the Mark at bay for the duration of their conversation and "let go" when she brought it up? He couldn't have wanted a prolonged conversation with her, especially if she's a romance or friend. He only let her talk and ask questions that he wanted to answer. Probably because he felt he owed her some fraction of an explanation (he owes her more than that !). Notice how he steers the conversation? He doesn't let the Inquisitor dwell on topics that would make him uncomfortable. He pushed her to ask certain questions, and when he's done letting her ask them he allows the Mark to go off again. Now I'm not saying he purposely allowed the Mark to consume her arm or cause her pain. I think that would have happened regardless, and in deed, without him it would have killed her. But I believe Solas might have been capable of holding off the Mark's reaction for awhile longer but chose not to. He might justify it as why prolong the inevitable while in truth he let it go to get away from her sooner.

 

Can't have that Inquisitor making him feel worst and maybe even swaying him. 

 

So that's all I have to say about that (at least until I can think of more to say  ). What are your thoughts? Do you have any explanations for the second two things (the weapon thing was a minor gripe. I think it goes with disappearing helmet.). Do you agree or disagree with my Mark theory?

[Kadan]

Please excuse my butting in.

 

Some individuals who are deemed (or judged) "overly sensitive" may be dealing with intensely personal issues such as depression, individual life circumstances, shyness, or severe social anxiety. I feel that it's highly inappropriate to label or be judgmental of another person's likes, preferences or emotional status, especially over the internet. Please be considerate when expressing yourself in response to another's art, work, or life, especially when it's someone you don't know...

 

Just my two cents.

 

 

*goes back to lurking*

As one that has dealt with being called overly sensitive or dramatic as a tween and young adult I try very hard to make critiques as friendly as possible. Unless a writer has specifically asked for me to point out flaws I don't address anything more than typos that are obvious.

 

Not butting in. This is something that I decided to speak up on because, as a person who is simply wired to be sensitive, man, I've gotten the "overly sensitive" or "thin-skinned" or sensitivity-as-weakness stuff tossed at me for a long time. Though I did also go through serious depression and anxiety too, it took me some time to come to understand that no, I'm just a sensitive person, but sensitivity in itself isn't a code word for weak or unable to take criticism. It's more about how one processes the world but it can sometimes lead to a feeling of overload or anxiety if one feels overly monitored or observed.

It took me a long time to be able to handle constructive criticism. I still have trouble with snark, but I'm more likely to snark back than sob in teh corner now.

 

Actually, I probably would've contributed to the discussion more, but I'm a veritable train-wreck right now. I have a totally nasty sleep disorder that's rearing it's ugly head and I'm 'xhausted...

I feel you there. I haven't slept more than 3 or 4 hours at a time in 10 months! And at least once a week a pull an all nighter. I have found it not only makes me more sensitive, I'm also prone to misread or misjudge where a person is coming from.  And after reading some of what I type when really tired I find I leave out important words in a sentence. The brain works faster than the typing and they just can't keep up so they make an executive decision to short hand for me

[Solas]

I m drunk bt I love this thread and you guys ))))

[drosophila]

Pfft not me.

Howeve, I will take the blame for any Antivan spirals that happen.

 

I can claim responsibility for any Fly'Harel jokes, fly smut, discussions of flies in microwaves, discussions of flies in general, the slow arrow, other stupid jokes, excessive talking about writing, and basically a lot of trolling. I think the only reason I haven't been banned yet is because I don't draw. 

[drosophila]

I m drunk bt I love this thread and you guys ))))

 

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