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[Raeona]

hey have you guys noticed Corypheus has wicked witch heels and legging

 

Even world-conquering madmen aspiring to godhood like to feel pretty.

[Garnet]

Maybe the Wicked Witch is a Tevinter!

Corypheus has really dainty looking feet for such a tall guy. 

[ChuChu]

Well, maybe for a soul to withstand the rigors of the fade, they have to become more spiritual, rather than "personified" (does that make sense?). In other words, they would have to become more of a simple being that is more focused (Mythal=Revenge) rather than stay varied and willful like people. 

 

As to Cory, I think he could transfer bodies on the terms that his soul was an infection (the blight) more than anything else. Then again, it's most likely just a lore mess-up by the writers *shrugs* 

I kind of wondered this as well. Maybe the key to immortality is a secret learned from the spirits, not just from the unbridled connection to the Fade. And it is this acceptance of 'spirit' and education thereof that might also give them the freedom to manifest as a soul/spirit when they are dead. A conscious being.

And yes! It could be. Hehe. Because I am unsure what difference there was between Corypheus' wardens and tainted/lyrium infused minions from the regular old tainted ones. If not a writing mistake, it must have something to do with the wardens giving permission. So zero permission to enter the body = destruction. That's a lot of trust he had in his wardens, if that was the case. I mean. Even Clarel ended up distrusting the whole thing.

 

Ha! We coincide in our confusion. 

 

I wonder if Bioware has been playing fast and loose with the terms soul and spirit and the associated lore (wardens kill archdemons because you can't have two souls at once, yet Flemeth is apparently perfectly comfortable with two, also cole?) or if there is some deeper explanation they simply haven't deigned to share yet. 

 

I like flemeth's horcrux approach to avoiding death at the beginning of DA2, but that only brings up further questions. Can a soul be splintered? How much do you need before it counts as an actual soul and at what point is it possession? And how can she leave her soul somewhere else and still go off cackling about? Flemeth might be one of my favourite characters, but she gives me a lore-headache. And I think she'd be thrilled about that. 

Indeed! Hehe

And yeah, I wonder if they haven't been too clear because that's something they have up their sleeve. Hrm.

Lore headaches abound!

[TheEggCrusher]

I ran out of likes

 

Hearts for all         

[Raeona]

My laptop just died, and now i'm negotiating a cracked screen on my phone I'm going to have to call it quits. Have fun interrogating the lore without me

[ChuChu]

My laptop just died, and now i'm negotiating a cracked screen on my phone I'm going to have to call it quits. Have fun interrogating the lore without me

Haha, I think at this point... unless some late comers can chime in with their own knowledge... I'm going to go the simple way. And that is: it's not set out in stone yet, so all things possible may be plausible ;P

[Kadan]

I kind of wondered this as well. Maybe the key to immortality is a secret learned from the spirits, not just from the unbridled connection to the Fade. And it is this acceptance of 'spirit' and education thereof that might also give them the freedom to manifest as a soul/spirit when they are dead. A conscious being.

And yes! It could be. Hehe. Because I am unsure what difference there was between Corypheus' wardens and tainted/lyrium infused minions from the regular old tainted ones. If not a writing mistake, it must have something to do with the wardens giving permission. So zero permission to enter the body = destruction. That's a lot of trust he had in his wardens, if that was the case. I mean. Even Clarel ended up distrusting the whole thing.

 

Indeed! Hehe

And yeah, I wonder if they haven't been too clear because that's something they have up their sleeve. Hrm.

Lore headaches abound!

This was what I thought before Trespasser, and it still really could apply. If the spirit/soul is strong enough then death of a physical body isn't necessarily the end. I also head-cannon that spirits aid those they feel worthy like Wynne and the bog unicorn. So joining with a spirit might prolong life or even make the person immortal in some way.

[S.W.]

guys


I had this amazing idea. Imagine an all-elven war council.

Imagine Merrill as your diplomat apologising for what a terrible mess we're in and suggesting that you patch up the problem with a spot of tea and hugs.

Imagine Zevran as your spymaster, who at every given opportunity will suggest sending assassins. Orlesian nobles having a land dispute in rift-ridden territory? Assassins. Chantry priests blaspheming your name and ruining your reputation? Assassins. Bears? Assassins.

Imagine Fenris as your really grumpy commander, who never has had enough coffee and continuously has to put up with these two and their antics all day, and who counters every ridiculous suggestion of yours with: 'No'.

JUST IMAGINE IT GUYS.
 

Ah, the Mary Sue Litmus Test. I remember the days when I furiously fed all my OCs through that.
 
On the subject of it - I mean, I guess it doesn't hurt to do it, but it's really not the be-all end-all of what does or does not a Mary Sue make. Some Sues will pass with flying colors while perfectly relatable characters fail miserably. It's a very flawed system, probably because Sues can be very subjective things that rely just as much on how the narrative treats and frames them as much as they do on the actual, solid facts. It really is a judgement call, and not everyone will agree. 
 
I dunno, I just wouldn't put much stock in it, no matter how it turns out.
 
Or just ignore me if you want. Think of me as that weirdo grandma ranting incoherently on things no one cares about.

 
^ I agree with all of this.

Don't get too fixated with making your characters non-sues. The main tell is that the narrative will twist around their wants and desires, and will usually end up devaluing supposedly intelligent and interesting characters for the sake of easily conflict resolution. Even if your characters are quite unique or special, if you let them suffer the consequences of their bad decisions

Most of my characters are self-inserts now, in one way or another. I tend to give them my flaws - one's an insufferable know-it-all, another has a devastating fear of organised social events (aka. parties), another has awful fashion sense...
 

Ah, sorry for misunderstanding.
 
Honestly, I would put DA:I Cullen at least somewhat in that category, though certainly not full-on Mary Sue/Gary Stu.  Before I go any further, let me make a few things clear.
 
I like Cullen.  But I think the narrative bent around him to make him a more sympathetic Inner Circle member in DA:I.  I'm not saying that's inherently a bad thing.  I'm not saying he's evil or abusive or the writers are lazy or any of that nonsense.  In fact, I think his writer did an admirable job given how inconsistent his earlier portrayal can be. 
 
I'm simply saying that story elements (particularly the ones about lyrium addiction) were adjusted to fit DA:I Cullen rather than the other way around.  This is IMO a relatively minor example of the narrative conforming to the character.  I didn't find it obnoxious or anything.  But I did notice it.

 
Ahhh why did I run out of likes right now? This is so true. Cullen doesn't get any **** for his previous decisions. He doesn't get told off for any of the abuses that occurred under his watch in Kirwall as a Knight-Captain and a Templar in a position of power & responsibility, he doesn't get told off for leaving Kirkwall when it was at its most unstable, and I find it really strange that he has absolutely no sympathy for Samson when they're both going through very similar struggles with addiction (I found it odd how Samson was flippantly treated as 'ex-lyrium addict, probably crazy' until we met Maddox, in contrast to Cullen's very sympathetic arc).

I do like Cullen too, and I do think he deserves sympathy, I just wish his previous actions and points of view weren't forgotten about and that'd he'd been accountable for his actions.
 

hey have you guys noticed Corypheus has wicked witch heels and legging
 

AGAIN WHY AM I OUT OF LIKES (I blame bioware for everything).

[Tess]

Killing someone on paper is complicated, without sounding totally cheesy. Eh.

I like my character. Why do I torture her so?

[rowrow]

Because he isn't that kind of wolf.

 

"He wants to give wisdom, not orders."

 

And more importantly, Cole believes he can be redeemed, reminded who he is.

 

I find it very comforting that Cole feels that way about Solas.

 

However, I have to sometimes remind myself that Cole, while a great judge of character ... isn't necessarily the best judge of consequence.

[ChuChu]

Killing someone on paper is complicated, without sounding totally cheesy. Eh.

I like my character. Why do I torture her so?

I know what you mean! I think the key to killing someone off is to remember that death is quite ordinary (ASoIaF is a good example of many deaths!). It's rarely theatrical. For me, one of the most memorable character deaths was Ophelia (Hamlet). It all happened off screen.

[FernRain]

The Blanketfort's adventures in multiplayer today:

 

We killed a dragon!

 

 

Much dying was had, thanks to Elvhen (Ardent Blossom I think) for carrying us to victory:

 

 

And Shari got stuck behind a thing and we couldn't stop laughing:

 

[Ardent Blossom]

The Blanketfort's adventures in multiplayer today:

 

We killed a dragon! 

Girl gamers rule! I'll take some shots next time too.

[Janic99]

The Blanketfort's adventures in multiplayer today:

 

We killed a dragon!

 

 

Much dying was had, thanks to Elvhen (Ardent Blossom I think) for carrying us to victory:

 

 

And Shari got stuck behind a thing and we couldn't stop laughing:

 

I haven't been playing multiplayer ever with anyone I've always wanted to try though

[Illyria]

guys


I had this amazing idea. Imagine an all-elven war council.

Imagine Merrill as your diplomat apologising for what a terrible mess we're in and suggesting that you patch up the problem with a spot of tea and hugs.

Imagine Zevran as your spymaster, who at every given opportunity will suggest sending assassins. Orlesian nobles having a land dispute in rift-ridden territory? Assassins. Chantry priests blaspheming your name and ruining your reputation? Assassins. Bears? Assassins.

Imagine Fenris as your really grumpy commander, who never has had enough coffee and continuously has to put up with these two and their antics all day, and who counters every ridiculous suggestion of yours with: 'No'.

JUST IMAGINE IT GUYS.
 
 
^ I agree with all of this.

Don't get too fixated with making your characters non-sues. The main tell is that the narrative will twist around their wants and desires, and will usually end up devaluing supposedly intelligent and interesting characters for the sake of easily conflict resolution. Even if your characters are quite unique or special, if you let them suffer the consequences of their bad decisions

Most of my characters are self-inserts now, in one way or another. I tend to give them my flaws - one's an insufferable know-it-all, another has a devastating fear of organised social events (aka. parties), another has awful fashion sense...
 
 
Ahhh why did I run out of likes right now? This is so true. Cullen doesn't get any **** for his previous decisions. He doesn't get told off for any of the abuses that occurred under his watch in Kirwall as a Knight-Captain and a Templar in a position of power & responsibility, he doesn't get told off for leaving Kirkwall when it was at its most unstable, and I find it really strange that he has absolutely no sympathy for Samson when they're both going through very similar struggles with addiction (I found it odd how Samson was flippantly treated as 'ex-lyrium addict, probably crazy' until we met Maddox, in contrast to Cullen's very sympathetic arc).

I do like Cullen too, and I do think he deserves sympathy, I just wish his previous actions and points of view weren't forgotten about and that'd he'd been accountable for his actions.
 



AGAIN WHY AM I OUT OF LIKES (I blame bioware for everything).

 

Yeah, the treatment of Samson was horrible. He deserved so much better than what the script gave him. 

[Janic99]

aarghh I cannot decide whether to drink from the well with my rogue inky or not n__n I did drink before but then again I don't know what happens in the next game and I am afraid that Solas would do sth since inky is bound to him if she drank..

[Vlk3]

aarghh I cannot decide whether to drink from the well with my rogue inky or not n__n I did drink before but then again I don't know what happens in the next game and I am afraid that Solas would do sth since inky is bound to him if she drank..

 

We don't know for sure, but it seems Solas took the power from Mythal, not her soul - it's most likely that Inquisitor or Morrigan is bound to Mythal. I'm sure it will have consequences (Mythal expects that 'change is coming to the world' which probably means she wants the Veil gone), so bear that in mind if you choose to drink. It might mean that Inquisitor will be unable to stop Solas.
 

I say: think about what you character is thinking at the time - what are her reasons for drinking or not drinking? How will drinking or not drinking from the Well change her? Do you want to go with her in that direction? No one knows the consequences yet, so it's important to go with the choice that will best suit your character (her morals, personality, etc...) ... do what you think is right at the moment and the rest, well... let's worry about that in future games

Mine didn't drink (though it was a difficult decision), because she wants to make her own choices.

[NeverlandHunter]

Ah, I found one of the other things I remember loving with regards to fandom, fics, and gender., that I reblogged: http://modernscribe....e-doctor-who-or

 

text under here:

 

Spoiler

 

"

Large fandoms—things like Doctor Who, or Supernatural, or Star Trek, or any superhero comic—tend to have unique and separate sides to them: curative and transformative.

Curative fandom is all about knowledge. It’s about making sure that everything is lined up and in order, knowing how it works, and finding out which one is the best. What is the Doctor Who canon? Who is the best Doctor? How do Weeping Angels work? Etc etc. Curative fandom is p. much the norm on reddit, especially r/gallifrey.

Transformative fandom is about change. Let’s write fic! Let’s make art! Let’s make a fan vid! Let’s cosplay! Let’s somehow change the text. Why is Three easier to ship, while Seven is more difficult? What would happen if ______? Transformative fandom is more or less the norm on tumblr. (And livejournal, and dreamwidth, and fanfiction websites, and…)

Here’s the big thing: there’s a gender split. Find a random male fan, and they’ll probably be in curative fandom. Pick a random transformative fandom-er, and they’ll probably be female. Note that this is phrased in a very particular way—obviously there’s guys who cosplay and write fic, obviously there’s women who don’t. But men tend to be in the curative fandom, while transformative fandom is predominately women—and/or queer people, POC, etc. Why? Because the majority of professionally-made media is catered towards a straight white male demographic, leaving little room for ‘outsiders.’ Outsiders who, if they want to see themselves in media, have to attack it and change it—hence slash fic, hence long essays claiming that Hermione Granger is black, hence canons about trans characters or genderqueer characters.

And then curative/male fandom tends to view most things that transformative/female fandom does with disdain. Why? Because, in their eyes, it devalues canon. Who cares about knowing about Tony Stark’s lovers if somebody’s gonna write a fic where Toni Stark is flying about? Their power is lessened. Scream of the Shalka is unambiguously not canon—but it doesn’t have to be in order for me to read and enjoy a 30k fic where the robotic Master was secretly in the TARDIS during Nine and Ten’s time and they shagged behind the scenes. Canon? No, but who gives a ****?

Also, as transformative fandom tends to be an outsider looking in, they’re much more likely to analyze the work from a queer/PoC/neurodivergent/gender perspective. If I come to /r/gallifrey and start to talk about how ‘In the Forest of the Night’ had a questionable portrayal of mental health/autism, I get blank stare. If I go on tumblr, I get a conversation. This is also where the ‘overreacting, shrieking SJW’ trope plays in, either because of a redditor’s misunderstanding of terms and therefore assuming that a mild critique is a scathing one, or because the tumblr user in question is young/inexperienced and jumping the gun.

So, there you have it: /r/gallifrey’s bashing of reddit is part of a larger split in how men and women tend to enjoy fandom, and a lashing against how fanfiction/related things addresses fandom because it’s not the right “kind” of fandom. And also because tumblr is popular with teenage girls, and there’s nothing reddit loves more than shitting on whatever teenage girls like.

 

 

This is really interesting! The part about why minorities fall under the transformative fandom more often makes a lot of sense. I don't think disliking canon deviation is a bad thing though, or necessarily the result of being in the more privileged group. With Dragon Age being a roleplaying game it doesn't bother me as much when people change things, but I still vastly prefer either canon complaint or completely alternate timeline or world. With other things though... well let's just say that I'm that obnoxious fan who rants your ear off about comic to movie adaptions-- oh Maker, or even worst-- book to movie  . My poor beloved book, what did they do to you? It's not exactly the same thing as fans changing stuff around for their works, but I think people dislike it for the same reasons. If you get invested enough in a work you get clinging to how you perceive it and how it should be represented and deviations to that are misrepresenting the greatness that is that work. 

 

 

On the Mary Sue checklist and what I think a Mary Sue is,

If you've ever read a YA romance then odds are you've come across the Mary Sue character. I suggest you try to avoid picturing yourself in the character's situation and instead think of the average person in it. Try to detach yourself from the character if you're putting too much of you into her/him. If you can take constructive criticism ask someone you trust to be honest whether or not they find your character interesting. It's easy to love your own character, much harder to love someone else's... it's like children. You may be blind to their flaws but outsiders will not be, in fact people are judgmental so they will definitely notice them (flaws are good for a fictional character though, you just don't want the flaw to be boring or unrealistic).

People make a big deal about Mary Sues and characters having any Mary Sue like qualities, and they are indeed annoyingly prevalent, but that doesn't mean they have to be unlikable. Kvothe from The Name of the Wind is a good example of a character with a lot of Mary Sue qualities (especially in the far inferior second book The Wise Man's Fear) but I still enjoyed his character and the world and supporting characters were so great that his Mary Sueishness didn't effect my feelings about the book (great book by the way, I definitely recommend it!). The problem with fanfiction is that your original character is an invader. Your character is already less important and less cared about than the others and then if they come in and start acting like they own the place (other characters inexplicably gravitate towards them, they are the solution to a catastrophic problem, they are uber special sauce and all the other characters need to catch up to them, ect) readers are going to dislike them. I've been reading a good amount of fanfiction lately and I think it's very clever of writers that make their Lavellans vague, don't give them a name, don't describe them-- it allows the reader to put their Lavellan/themself into the situation so they're more likely to forgive trespasses. This is not saying you can't make a fully formed, named, and described Lavellan and her be well received, I just think it takes more work.

[FernRain]

I haven't been playing multiplayer ever with anyone I've always wanted to try though

 

The multiplayer DLCs are free now if you want to join us . You'll have to be on PC though, which you can download a free trial of and then play the multiplayer for an unlimited amount of time.

[Kadan]

guys


I had this amazing idea. Imagine an all-elven war council.

Imagine Merrill as your diplomat apologising for what a terrible mess we're in and suggesting that you patch up the problem with a spot of tea and hugs.

Imagine Zevran as your spymaster, who at every given opportunity will suggest sending assassins. Orlesian nobles having a land dispute in rift-ridden territory? Assassins. Chantry priests blaspheming your name and ruining your reputation? Assassins. Bears? Assassins.

Imagine Fenris as your really grumpy commander, who never has had enough coffee and continuously has to put up with these two and their antics all day, and who counters every ridiculous suggestion of yours with: 'No'.

JUST IMAGINE IT GUYS.
 
 
Don't get too fixated with making your characters non-sues. The main tell is that the narrative will twist around their wants and desires, and will usually end up devaluing supposedly intelligent and interesting characters for the sake of easily conflict resolution. Even if your characters are quite unique or special, if you let them suffer the consequences of their bad decisions

Most of my characters are self-inserts now, in one way or another. I tend to give them my flaws - one's an insufferable know-it-all, another has a devastating fear of organised social events (aka. parties), another has awful fashion sense...
 
 
 

I so want them for my war council now! I can just hear the snark! Oh the crazy things they would say to each other!

[NeverlandHunter]

aarghh I cannot decide whether to drink from the well with my rogue inky or not n__n I did drink before but then again I don't know what happens in the next game and I am afraid that Solas would do sth since inky is bound to him if she drank..

Vlk3 brought up a great point Janic. It depend a lot on if you're okay with metagaming (am I using this correctly?) or not and if you prefer straight roleplaying how you can validate your Inquisitor's actions.

 

On a metagame note I personally find it unlikely that Solas has control over the Well drinker. It was Mythal's will and again, as Vlk3 said, Solas took Mythal's power... he didn't actually become Mythal. I doubt that drinking or not drinking it will effect whether or not Solas succeeds though. That's just too big of a deviation in outcomes... unless DA4 is the last game. More likely I think, as people on the thread before have theorized, the Well drinker will be forced to do something, say release the Evanuris. I don't even think it will kill them, because can you honestly see the devs killing Morrigan (unless it's the last game, but even then I find it unlikely)?

 

On the roleplaying side of it think of all the reasons your Inquisitor would drink from it. I say would because I find the reasons for not drinking are a lot simpler-- it's the Well of Sorrows, who hears that and decides to take a sip?

Reasons for drinking:

You don't trust Morrigan and don't want her to have that power

You, like Morrigan, don't believe in the Creators and don't think there is anyone to activate the geas on you (if you knew there was a geas).

You simply want more power

As a Dalish,

You don't want a shem drinking from the Well or being the one to take from such great source of your people's heritage.

You feel obligated because of your heritage to drink

You want the knowledge about your people's heritage

You do believe in Mythal and think this is your duty as an elf

 

My mage Lavellan drank from the Well. Mostly because of the lost knowledge, partially because she didn't trust Morrigan all that much, and also because she felt it was her duty. It didn't help that she didn't think the Creators existed *stares at Solas pointedly*

And on the metagaming level I thought she'd be the most likely out of all my Inquisitor's to do something that stupid, so I wanted the variety. 

[Aneira]

This is really interesting! The part about why minorities fall under the transformative fandom more often makes a lot of sense. I don't think disliking canon deviation is a bad thing though, or necessarily the result of being in the more privileged group. With Dragon Age being a roleplaying game it doesn't bother me as much when people change things, but I still vastly prefer either canon complaint or completely alternate timeline or world. With other things though... well let's just say that I'm that obnoxious fan who rants your ear off about comic to movie adaptions-- oh Maker, or even worst-- book to movie  . My poor beloved book, what did they do to you? It's not exactly the same thing as fans changing stuff around for their works, but I think people dislike it for the same reasons. If you get invested enough in a work you get clinging to how you perceive it and how it should be represented and deviations to that are misrepresenting the greatness that is that work. 

 

 

On the Mary Sue checklist and what I think a Mary Sue is,

If you've ever read a YA romance then odds are you've come across the Mary Sue character. I suggest you try to avoid picturing yourself in the character's situation and instead think of the average person in it. Try to detach yourself from the character if you're putting too much of you into her/him. If you can take constructive criticism ask someone you trust to be honest whether or not they find your character interesting. It's easy to love your own character, much harder to love someone else's... it's like children. You may be blind to their flaws but outsiders will not be, in fact people are judgmental so they will definitely notice them (flaws are good for a fictional character though, you just don't want the flaw to be boring or unrealistic).

People make a big deal about Mary Sues and characters having any Mary Sue like qualities, and they are indeed annoyingly prevalent, but that doesn't mean they have to be unlikable. Kvothe from The Name of the Wind is a good example of a character with a lot of Mary Sue qualities (especially in the far inferior second book The Wise Man's Fear) but I still enjoyed his character and the world and supporting characters were so great that his Mary Sueishness didn't effect my feelings about the book (great book by the way, I definitely recommend it!). The problem with fanfiction is that your original character is an invader. Your character is already less important and less cared about than the others and then if they come in and start acting like they own the place (other characters inexplicably gravitate towards them, they are the solution to a catastrophic problem, they are uber special sauce and all the other characters need to catch up to them, ect) readers are going to dislike them. I've been reading a good amount of fanfiction lately and I think it's very clever of writers that make their Lavellans vague, don't give them a name, don't describe them-- it allows the reader to put their Lavellan/themself into the situation so they're more likely to forgive trespasses. This is not saying you can't make a fully formed, named, and described Lavellan and her be well received, I just think it takes more work.

 

I totally feel you on that whole adaption-topic! If I can I watch the movie first and read the book (in my case only books, 'cause I'm not into comics) later. In that order I can enjoy the book as an expansion of the story with more scenes and more insight and all that. If I had to choose between no more movies and no more books I would never hesitate to choose books! They are imo a far superior medium to almost any other medium. Choosing between books and RP videogames would be harder, though. But I think I would still go with books.

 

I also agree on your views regarding Mary Sue characters. I personally can't stand them and I'll be very annoyed really fast and stop reading.

For my own characters I do use the test that was discussed a few pages before, although I just use it as an indicator if I'm overdoing things. You described it pretty well as seeing characters as children and yes, I do love mine and of course don't want others to not like them (I'm bad at writing villains, btw. ^^) But I hardly ever just write without any kind of concept and especially for longer stories I flesh out my character's personalities before I start writing. Or sometimes after I introduced them. I have whole sheets for any of them with every little detail that I need to know about them, most of it the reader will never know. I find it easier this way to write consistent characters. Of course they can and they do change due to their experiences and whatnot, but still. Someone who is a coward will never be the first to run down a villain in my stories. Unless she/he has a really good reason to.

 

Also I tend to do what you noticed with the Lavellans. I hardly ever describe my characters, only if certain aspects of their looks are important for whatever reason. They do have a name though and a fully fleshed out personality. But I personally don't like to read through lines and lines of every little detail of the character's look and clothing. I like to let my readers imagine the character the way they want to.

 

And to make this all relevant to the thread - Solas!

Spoiler

Source: http://www.deviantar...Solas-520798436

 

Edit: Does anyone know if the multiplayer is in any way region gated? I would love to play but I'm not sure that's even possible with accounts from NA and EU.

[S.W.]

Yeah, the treatment of Samson was horrible. He deserved so much better than what the script gave him.

Samson was one of my favourite characters. He was compassionate, caring for his men, and (correctly) critical of the chantry in a way most other characters weren't. He deserved a far kinder treatment than he got in the narrative, which depicted him at the worst as power-hungry and/or mad, when in fact his worse fault was his struggle with addiction and his belief in a life where templars and mages weren't used by the chantry.

(Arguably, he comes off as worse in DA2, where he helps a child escape the circle - straight into the hands of a slaver, knowing he's doing a nasty job but too desperate for lyrium to do otherwise)

I think the character development of villains - Solas excepted - was particularly poor in DA:I, often buried in side-quests and codex entries. You could quite easily skip over both Calpernia's and Samson's quests and be none the wiser about their motivations for teaming up with Corypheus/opposing the Inquisition as well as their doubts about doing so.

[NightSymphony]

Some beautiful art this morning

 

Lavellan and Solas wearing his wolf hood

http://www.deviantar...0-lvl-567171110

 

Solas and his orb

http://yogurtdollart...Solas-567485168

 

 

Sexy Fenris in Chains

http://ynorka.devian...hains-567459443

[NeverlandHunter]

I so want them for my war council now! I can just hear the snark! Oh the crazy things they would say to each other!

Oh man, the Inquisition would crash and burn  they're all horribly suited for those tasks.

 

Who would you use as your three advisers if you didn't have Josephine, Cullen, and Leliana (from the first two games)?

 

I'd say Varric as diplomat, but I don't know how he'd do with the nobles  maybe Wynne...before before *sobs* or Bethany or Sebastian... before he decided the only way to solve problems was taking over cities... _{did he always think that way?}

 

Although I don't think Zevran is particulary suited for Spymaster I concede he would probably be the best suited for Spymaster... although I do wonder how Nathaniel Howe would do.

 

Origins Sten as commander! Although his ideologies might clash with the rest of the Inquisition.... Oh yeah, Aveline! She would be awesome

 

And for my you're screwed Thedas I say Shale as diplomat, Oghren as spymaster, and Morrigan as commander!

 

I'm bored if you can't tell!