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[midnight tea]

Solas doesn't seem to care for anything that compromises mental acuity, or creates a dependency like say caffeine. Weekes has said he also doesn't drink alcohol often, as it interferes with his sleep (though we know he was drinking at the Winter Palace - which leads me to believe he was already personally celebrating having taken the eluvians from Briala earlier that day and trying not to think about Felassan). He seems quite the ascetic at times.

 

I'm unconvinced he's taken eluvians from Briala then. He said he "had to override the magic personally" - not 'take it from her personally'. So he just used stronger magic once he's gotten stronger - et voila. In fact, I'm starting to suspect that the "Mythal is sending something through eluvian" in the post-epilogue scene wasn't 'sending' anything away - it was her pushing her power into mirrors in order to re-open or re-activate eluvians herself or her provoking Solas to meet that way (or likely both). He took her powers and finished what she started, being stronger from now on.

[MayriyaNoori]

Pronouns: the true enemy of Thedas.  Or at least, of its writers 

 

@ Mayriya: I saw that post    And I may have added the worst iambic pentameter ever!  I can't decide whether I feel shame or pride.

Wait wha....? What post?

 

Edit; Nvm! I saw, LOL

[Sable Rhapsody]

Replacing now unnecessary post with gif of cats stealing bread.

source: http://lovemeow.com/

[MayriyaNoori]

Alright. AO3 seems to have its marbles back.

 

Let's try this again.

[Raeona]

This is sort of the direction I see things going.

 

Like, I think ultimately what's been going on is a 2000+ year backlash of the war between the ancient elves and the Titans and the Dragon Age is getting to see the full repercussions of it unfold.

 

Which means hopefully the Evanuris show up at some point.

 

Cause hot damn they must be pissed.

 

I really hope this is where they take the next game. The veil drops, the Titans and Evanuris all wake up, remember they hate each other, and go straight back to waging a war they started some 5000 years ago. Meanwhile all the little shems scramble to get out of the way. But a few, the brave, the bold, the completely insane, step in and show the ancient 'gods' how mortals wage war. 

 

As a hold over from the old glitter-pantheon thread, I will forever picture the Evanuris dripping with glitter and wearing massive headdresses, so I'm totally expecting Thedas to be 100% more sparkly as soon as the old magic comes back, lore be damned. 

[drosophila]

Pronouns: the true enemy of Thedas.  Or at least, of its writers 

 

@ Mayriya: I saw that post    And I may have added the worst iambic pentameter ever!  I can't decide whether I feel shame or pride.

 

Pride, falon! Those were some of the best of the worst verses ever

[drosophila]

Wait, did the bad poetry post happen? I'll have to see.

 

I have a little photo thing I may make later. Just a silly thing that made me laugh while at CVS.

 

The Really Bad Antivan poetry challenge on tumblr:

 

http://mayriyanoori....fiction-writers

 

Go and contribute to get the ball rolling! 

[Sable Rhapsody]

I really hope this is where they take the next game. The veil drops, the Titans and Evanuris all wake up, remember they hate each other, and go straight back to waging a war they started some 5000 years ago. Meanwhile all the little shems scramble to get out of the way. But a few, the brave, the bold, the completely insane, step in and show the ancient 'gods' how mortals wage war. 
 
As a hold over from the old glitter-pantheon thread, I will forever picture the Evanuris dripping with glitter and wearing massive headdresses, so I'm totally expecting Thedas to be 100% more sparkly as soon as the old magic comes back, lore be damned.

Likes, where have you gone? Why won't you come back?

I think every BioWare protagonist is, by nature of their role in the story, brave and bold and completely insane    We're talking about people who see a High Dragon spitting fire and think, "Yeah, I can take that."

[Cee]

The Really Bad Antivan poetry challenge on tumblr:

 

http://mayriyanoori....fiction-writers

 

Go and contribute to get the ball rolling! 

 

 

I just found it. I...this is a challenge.

 

I think I'm in second cup of coffee mode, so I'll think about it.

[MayriyaNoori]

*nearly completes updating fics*

 

*AO3 server connection fail*

 

[Raeona]

Likes, where have you gone? Why won't you come back?

I think every BioWare protagonist is, by nature of their role in the story, brave and bold and completely insane    We're talking about people who see a High Dragon spitting fire and think, "Yeah, I can take that."

 

Absolutely, even the most down to earth wardens and inquisitors are still completely nuts. And pretty much every Hawke over qualifies for the term.

 

I like the idea that mortals are much crazier opponents, and far greater risk takers because they have so much less to lose. An immortal creature is gambling with all of eternity, while a mortal's worst case scenario is dying earlier than anticipated. There's a boldness that comes from staring death in the face every day.

[Nightspirit]

My god, what have you done? Can you even begin to comprehend what what you have unleashed?

Incoming haiku:

Spoiler

Pull of the abyss

I’m caught in your gravity

Floating endlessly

 

Spoiler

Get it? Solas cast pull of the abyss on himself and Lavellan can't escape it *elbows side* get it?

It wasn't me, my Lavellan totally wrote this after the heartbreak.

I'm sure I'll find something worse in her collection sooner or later.

[dawnstone]

I'm unconvinced he's taken eluvians from Briala then. He said he "had to override the magic personally" - not 'take it from her personally'. So he just used stronger magic once he's gotten stronger - et voila. In fact, I'm starting to suspect that the "Mythal is sending something through eluvian" in the post-epilogue scene wasn't 'sending' anything away - it was her pushing her power into mirrors in order to re-open or re-activate eluvians herself or her provoking Solas to meet that way (or likely both). He took her powers and finished what she started, being stronger from now on.

How did he get to Mythal then to take her power? There would have had to have been at least one active eluvian he had access to, and not Morrigan's as he had already left Skyhold. It makes sense to me narratively, and makes the story more interesting to me, to think that he was doing his own thing behind our backs at the ball while we were running around trying to fix Orlais.

 

Edit: We don't actually know when he did it, only that he did get control of them. We do know that he has had agents active in Thedas even before the game, so he's been planning all of this for a long time.

 

Wasn't it already established that she sent her wisp through to preserve it for Morrigan? It looked like what she took from Kieran (though obvs not everyone had Kieran- and, omg, there's another theory I'm loving right now - that there weren't two wisps sent through the eluvian if she took Kieran's, because all of the Old Gods have pieces of Mythal split up into them. So, basically, she was reclaiming a piece of her own spirit!) and if both Solas and Mythal already had the ability to access eluvians there would be no need for her to waste power on reactivating the network if she knew he could do it. Even the Qunari who hate magic and had to figure them out on their own can take control of eluvians, I don't see why Solas who is far more knowledgeable about them would have a difficult time.

 

Personally, I am sticking with the datamined info that she wanted Solas to have her power, and the rest, her godhood, would go to Morrigan (I know there was that note from the devs to take what was datamined from the game files with a grain of salt, but it's all we have to work with until the next game and it feels legit to me in terms of where the narrative could go).

Modifié par dawnstonedagger, 26 octobre 2015 - 10:10 .

[Raeona]

It wasn't me, my Lavellan totally wrote this after the heartbreak.

I'm sure I'll find something worse in her collection sooner or later.

 

Your Lavellan was productive! Mine was throwing rocks at old couples by then. Ah, the joys of handling a break up gracefully. 

[Sable Rhapsody]

Absolutely, even the most down to earth wardens and inquisitors are still completely nuts. And pretty much every Hawke over qualifies for the term.

 

I like the idea that mortals are much crazier opponents, and far greater risk takers because they have so much less to lose. An immortal creature is gambling with all of eternity, while a mortal's worst case scenario is dying earlier than anticipated. There's a boldness that comes from staring death in the face every day.

 

BioWare touched on this theme already in Baldur's Gate 2, and again in Mass Effect.  But it's one of my favorite storytelling tropes, so I don't mind if it comes up again in Dragon Age.  I love being a spanner in the works to plans that took thousands of years to come to fruition.  It makes me feel all tingly inside 

 

It wasn't me, my Lavellan totally wrote this after the heartbreak.

I'm sure I'll find something worse in her collection sooner or later.

 

 

My Lavellan took out her heartbreak on the Orlesians.  More than one noble had their position in the Great Game ruined for funsies and profit.  I don't think that's quite what the rest of her friends meant by "staying busy" and not dwelling on things, but hey, at least Viv and Leliana were proud of her 

[Cee]

Mine wound up in the feels corner, developed some temporary insomnia, relied upon her friends a lot, and ultimately did her duty in spite of it. Nirwen was hopeful that there would be an explanation, and that there might be more between them once their work was (supposed to be) complete.

[Dancing_Dolphin]

I'm unconvinced he's taken eluvians from Briala then. He said he "had to override the magic personally" - not 'take it from her personally'. So he just used stronger magic once he's gotten stronger - et voila. In fact, I'm starting to suspect that the "Mythal is sending something through eluvian" in the post-epilogue scene wasn't 'sending' anything away - it was her pushing her power into mirrors in order to re-open or re-activate eluvians herself or her provoking Solas to meet that way (or likely both). He took her powers and finished what she started, being stronger from now on.

Wasn't Flemeth able to not only override Morrigan's key to unlock her eluvian so Kieran could go through, but also *redirect* the eluvian so it went to the Fade? That is how she lures Kieran to her. Morrigan thinks it's Kieran but that is because she is unaware of Flemeth's connection to Mythal. So it makes sense, at least to me, that part of Solas' motivation in taking Flemythal's power was so he could override any key.

[Raeona]

 

BioWare touched on this theme already in Baldur's Gate 2, and again in Mass Effect.  But it's one of my favorite storytelling tropes, so I don't mind if it comes up again in Dragon Age.  I love being a spanner in the works to plans that took thousands of years to come to fruition.  It makes me feel all tingly inside 

 

I love that too. You've got ancient evils drenched up from the void itself, planning every little thing so that in thousands of years time the such and such of the whatever will come to pass. Then some cheeky little brat, barely thirty years old, stands and blows a hole in everything because what do they care about what happens thousands of years from now?

 

It's sort of like a toddlers attitude towards a parents plans for anything more than five minutes away. I work at a daycare so I think getting to play the unholy plan wrecker is my own petty revenge. Now I will destroy the best laid plans! Go ahead, try and stop me! Just see if I won't. 

[MayriyaNoori]

My Lavellan kept busy cleaning up everyone's mess with the optimistic hope that Solas would return and life could get quiet.

Only to have Solas return and basically tell her that everything she fought, bled, lost sleep and sacraficed to protect he plans to undo ultimately.

And he was like, her biggest cheerleader during all of it.

I was actually thinking about doing one of those epic drunken rants with her. Just can't decide when I would set it.

[Ellawynn]

Is it kinda bad for me to hope that the Titans will end up having nothing (Or very little) to do with anything? I know it's unlikely, but I just... don't really care about the dwarves or anything relating to them. The sudden appearance of the Titans just seems so random and unplanned, especially when compared to all the careful foreshadowing they did for the Evanuris and Fen'Harel. Like, I know the Thaig in DA2 was probably a dead Titan, but it feels weird that there's no mention of them at all throughout the rest of the franchise until Inquisition. 

 

Plus I just... I really, really find the dwarves to be boring. Maybe because we rarely see them do anything. 

 

I'm unconvinced he's taken eluvians from Briala then. He said he "had to override the magic personally" - not 'take it from her personally'. So he just used stronger magic once he's gotten stronger - et voila. In fact, I'm starting to suspect that the "Mythal is sending something through eluvian" in the post-epilogue scene wasn't 'sending' anything away - it was her pushing her power into mirrors in order to re-open or re-activate eluvians herself or her provoking Solas to meet that way (or likely both). He took her powers and finished what she started, being stronger from now on.

 

What irks me about that is, if Solas could've waltzed in any time and just taken over the Network by force, why'd he even send Felassan in in the first place? That was pretty much the whole reason I bought the "Solas didn't kill Felassan" theory. Because if he already had access (Or could so easily gain access) why'd he even need to get the password?

 

It just seems like such a pointless detour, with possible endangerment to one of his few agents. 

 

...Also I'm apparently feeling hypercritical today...

[Sable Rhapsody]

I love that too. You've got ancient evils drenched up from the void itself, planning every little thing so that in thousands of years time the such and such of the whatever will come to pass. Then some cheeky little brat, barely thirty years old, stands and blows a hole in everything because what do they care about what happens thousands of years from now?
 
It's sort of like a toddlers attitude towards a parents plans for anything more than five minutes away. I work at a daycare so I think getting to play the unholy plan wrecker is my own petty revenge. Now I will destroy the best laid plans! Go ahead, try and stop me! Just see if I won't.

LOL. Poor Solas dealing with toddler gremlins breaking his orb 

 

IRL I'm a humanist, so I really like the idea of mortals pulling together and being badasses, flaws and all.  It's very satisfying to go toe-to-toe with immortal baddies, and basically win because you refuse to lie down and die like they expect you to.  

 

 

What irks me about that is, if Solas could've waltzed in any time and just taken over the Network by force, why'd he even send Felassan in in the first place? That was pretty much the whole reason I bought the "Solas didn't kill Felassan" theory. Because if he already had access (Or could so easily gain access) why'd he even need to get the password?

 

It just seems like such a pointless detour, with possible endangerment to one of his few agents. 

 

...Also I'm apparently feeling hypercritical today...

 

Originally, I don't think he ever planned to reveal himself to the gremlins.  He acted through agents for everything, including getting the orb to Cory.  When that didn't pan out, he was forced to do a lot of things personally.  Helping the Inquisition.  Stopping Cory.  And he does get steadily stronger over the course of the game, at least in a gameplay sense.  Maybe he was too weak to take over the network by force back when Masked Empire happened. 

[Ellawynn]

 

 

Originally, I don't think he ever planned to reveal himself to the gremlins.  He acted through agents for everything, including getting the orb to Cory.  When that didn't pan out, he was forced to do a lot of things personally.  Helping the Inquisition.  Stopping Cory.  And he does get steadily stronger over the course of the game, at least in a gameplay sense.  Maybe he was too weak to take over the network by force back when Masked Empire happened. 

But why would he have to reveal himself to gremlins to take over the network? I mean, he never really expands upon what he had to do to manage it, but if the theory that he did it at the Winter Palace is true, it sounds like he just needed a working eluvian. And he didn't seem to have much pressing need for the network if he went until Inquisition to gain control of it, so why not just wait until he got some power back, or got his orb open?

 

It just ties back into my sneaking suspicion that Masked Empire was written with a different, pre-Inquisition-rewrites version of Solas in mind.

[dawnstone]

Is it kinda bad for me to hope that the Titans will end up having nothing (Or very little) to do with anything? I know it's unlikely, but I just... don't really care about the dwarves or anything relating to them. The sudden appearance of the Titans just seems so random and unplanned, especially when compared to all the careful foreshadowing they did for the Evanuris and Fen'Harel. Like, I know the Thaig in DA2 was probably a dead Titan, but it feels weird that there's no mention of them at all throughout the rest of the franchise until Inquisition. 

 

Plus I just... I really, really find the dwarves to be boring. Maybe because we rarely see them do anything. 

 

 

What irks me about that is, if Solas could've waltzed in any time and just taken over the Network by force, why'd he even send Felassan in in the first place? That was pretty much the whole reason I bought the "Solas didn't kill Felassan" theory. Because if he already had access (Or could so easily gain access) why'd he even need to get the password?

 

It just seems like such a pointless detour, with possible endangerment to one of his few agents. 

 

...Also I'm apparently feeling hypercritical today...

Dwarves became a lot more interesting to me after Descent. The Stone capital 's' has always been there with some sort of weirdness, some vague sentience, we simply didn't know how much more there was to it, because we hadn't gotten to that part in the story yet. Not to mention the the memories the Dwarves had of the Titans were erased (conveniently, I know).

 

With Solas and Felassan, it could have just been one of those things leaders do - this was task he was delegating to someone whom he trusted could handle it, while he did other things. Felassan betrayed Solas over it, and Solas had to override the magic himself. Perhaps he did not have that capability, until he took Mythal's power, it has not been explicitly spelled out, just that at some point it happened.

[dawnstone]

And I am totally not derping around on DA theory stuff today to avoid working on any of my stories, nope, not me.

 

Spoiler

I totally am.

[Raeona]

And I am totally not derping around on DA theory stuff today to avoid working on any of my stories, nope, not me.

 

Spoiler

I totally am.

 

Me too! Shepard's yelling in the back of my head because I'd rather muse over the Evanuris than write another fight scene. Meanwhile Solas shakes his head in disappointment. 

 

I was suppose to have uploaded the next chapter last Saturday.