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*contemplates the dom!Solas issue*

 

Honestly, I fail to see the problem in any of it if Lavellan is consenting. I think this goes with anything going on in between the sheets for anyone.

 

And to be honest......I can see Solas totally being dominant just to please Lavellan if that's what she gets off on. Even if it's not something he normally does.

 

Cause I see Solas as a considerate lover who would step up to meet his partner's needs.

 

Just sayin'.


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Just wanted to say, and this has nothing to do with Solas, but dominance IRL, if done right, is an equal partnership. 

Honestly, it is hard to express for me in writing here, so thank you. :D


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Just wanted to say, and this has nothing to do with Solas, but dominance IRL, if done right, is an equal partnership. 

 

Yes, wasn't trying to imply otherwise. People should totally hash out boundaries and wants and everything and approach that way.
 

 

 

 

Lol that was not all he meant when he said that about seeing it dominated. It was his flirty reply that had a hidden meaning. He likes to do that. Again that proves he likes to be in charge. He always adds more to the flirt than you and it makes your PC squirm.

 

Funny thing is, the mage one has the biggest hint of attraction, but the other ones are compliments that can make him seem interested in any race. He told my Trevelyan her grace was an enjoyable side benefit. That could be taken wrong. I feel the recycled dialogue kind of ruins the flirting at that point.

 

The subject of the sentence was "focus", and yes, it was meant to sound flirty, but it wasn't necessarily supposed to refer to dominating her. People have been interpreting it that way but it could potentially be a misread or just HC. HC is totally fine. But I think it's also important to examine the line as is and what it means.

 

She's so focused and he'd like to see that focus, something so strong, broken a bit and have her flustered. Without intending to, I've gone and adopted a version of this in my fic, except it's my Lavellan who loves seeing her usually focused girlfriend flustered.

 

And personally, I disagree. I think the rogue flirt is the best and smoothest/shows attraction the best. But that's personal opinion.

 


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I wanted to watch more episodes of Reign tonight, so my daughter started it, well evidently I am 5 episodes ahead of her and I'm not allowed to watch anymore until she catches up.  <_< I should attempt to plot out my NaNo even if it is a loose plot that changes, but I'm procrastinating. It's only the first day I've got time right?  :lol:

 

I'm still at nothing written yet, so we can be in this together. I will try soon though. Maybe I should make some tea.


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Yes, wasn't trying to imply otherwise. People should totally hash out boundaries and wants and everything and approach that way.
 

 

 

 

The subject of the sentence was "focus", and yes, it was meant to sound flirty, but it wasn't necessarily supposed to refer to dominating her. People have been interpreting it that way but it could potentially be a misread or just HC. HC is totally fine. But I think it's also important to examine the line as is and what it means.

 

She's so focused and he'd like to see that focus, something so strong, broken a bit and have her flustered. Without intending to, I've gone and adopted a version of this in my fic, except it's my Lavellan who loves seeing her usually focused girlfriend flustered.

 

And personally, I disagree. I think the rogue flirt is the best and smoothest/shows attraction the best. But that's personal opinion.

 

Lol I honestly saw it as him trying to best her at flirting and making her want more, which works.

 

No not the flirt. I meant what leads up to it. Any race or sex he comments on their grace. I feel it was said rather questionably, but then again Gareth just has that smooth as butter voice and can rile up any player.



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I'd like to point out I was aiming my question mainly relationship wise, not sex wise. :P Although the first inherently does influence the latter.



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I'm still at nothing written yet, so we can be in this together. I will try soon though. Maybe I should make some tea.

 

I finished the chapter!

 

But now I go back to fill in the little bits I missed, sort of a pre-editing stage. And between the part that is normal writing and the part that is ridiculous out-of-place smut there is a single line that says {TRANSITION}

 

I've been staring at it for half an hour :lol:


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Ha! I got a question which might ruffle some feathers.

 

I've seen a lot of people fiercely refusing dominant Solas. Now, Don't jump on me just yet - I am not talking 50 Shades of Awful here. Only a man who'd probably try to lead and have the upper hand in relationship, all in a mature and respective manner. However a lot of the fandom refuses that idea. I do not think it's that way off, though. He's been young and hot blooded once, and now much older and wiser, perhaps, but still himself. He shows signs of dominance throughout the game. (Why does the dominance word sound so bad when written in here? Ungh.) Is it because Lavellan basically initiates the relationship? That itself isn't sign of him not being so.

Now this is just my headcannon I do not - I repeat I do not - take anyone else's headcanons away or as offensive. It's a game, and we're free to imagine whatever we want to.

 

I am just wondering from where that "oh no, he'd never" comes. (And again, I am not talking Christian Grey here, or Iron Bull, m'key? Being dominant is not exclusive with being loving and gentle.)

 

I can only speak for myself.

 

discussion of abuse in BDSM scene below:

Spoiler

 

In the case of Solas, my problem is less to do with the above and more that:

1. A lot of it is really terribly written. A lot of it has plenty of the problems that I have outlined above - especially when they play on the whole, ~ oh he's the Dread Wolf ~, like he has this insatiable, animalstic lust thing going on and absolutely cannot control himself. Urgh. Pisss on that. You're a grown adult man who is three thousand years old  surely you must have learned some semblance of restraint whilst stuck in the fade, bloody hell egg. I just don't like how Dark!Solas is done really by most people.

 

2. It plays to type. Solas is an older, more experienced man who comes across as always having the upper hand. What you prefer in bed doesn't necessarily correlate to personality, and plus, I like surprises in my writing. I prefer sub!Solas for this reason.


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I'd like to point out I was aiming my question mainly relationship wise, not sex wise. :P Although the first inherently does influence the latter.

 

Sadly most fanfics of that nature focus on the sex.



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According to this quiz I most identify with Fenris. And yes I can see it. I hide behind my wit, but really I prefer to be alone. (this branching out into the forum is not my usual way. I'm the quiet one at the party going, why am I even here?) But another quiz says I'm more like Wynne and a third like Cole, so hmmmm what a strange mix :lol:

 

http://www.playbuzz....mpanion-are-you

 

Leliana

 

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As for the DAI quiz? I suggest you.. Get away from me because..

 

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Second DAO quiz and I got Leliana again >_>

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Technical - what is considered NSFW and what not just yet? The image below has skin but no obvious stuff. Lavellan not wearing shirt.

 

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I should not have clicked that tag. Oops.

 

*retires to feels corner, wondering if there's any hope of even trying to write fluff chapter might work*

 

I'm writing the last section before the rest. Stuck on parents' response to knowing about Nirwen & Nehn. It's a mess.



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I really disagree with that statement. He did/is betraying you. I agree that he's trying to fix things in his own messed up way and that he does genuinely love/respect your Inquisitor if romanced or a friend but that does not mean what he's doing isn't a betrayal to you and your relationship. 

I agree. It's ok to respect and like Solas as a character, but he is betraying the Inquisitor, as well as the entire Inquisition as a whole. 

 

No one is perfect, and good people can do bad things. This doesn't mean he should be cared about by fans any less.  


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<snips>

 

 
 
Betrayal is using someone for your own selfish gain. He actually wanted to help heal the world, and let people have peace. He breaks up with you so you do not think he led you on and if you accuse him of taking you, he said he would never do that under false pretenses. Anders betrayed you. He had you do a quest that blew up the Chantry and never told you his intentions. He used you to kill many but at least Solas is warning you, probably in hopes you will stop him. Have some faith my friend.

 

Hmm... I can see where you're coming from with that, but betrayal isn't a word that only describes villainous people or situations with ill intent. I agree that the Anders situation was without a doubt a betrayal made worst by his manipulations but this doesn't put Solas in the clear. No matter his warnings (which he doesn't give to a friend) or his motivations Solas is breaking that unsaid contract that comes with any close relationship. He betrays your trust, your friendship, and your organization through his dishonesty, the way he misleads you, and his immoral actions... and planned immoral actions. I'm not saying he betrayed you is an end all for his character. There is still the possibility and hope for redemption, but his past transgressions shouldn't be glossed over or sugar coated just because he's trying to fix things or his motivations are genuine. 

 

http://dictionary.re...browse/betrayal

Solas hits at least three of those^


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I can only speak for myself.

 

discussion of abuse in BDSM scene below:

Spoiler

 

In the case of Solas, my problem is less to do with the above and more that:

1. A lot of it is really terribly written. A lot of it has plenty of the problems that I have outlined above - especially when they play on the whole, ~ oh he's the Dread Wolf ~, like he has this insatiable, animalstic lust thing going on and absolutely cannot control himself. Urgh. ****** on that. You're a grown adult man who is three thousand years old  surely you must have learned some semblance of restraint whilst stuck in the fade, bloody hell egg. I just don't like how Dark!Solas is done really by most people.

 

2. It plays to type. Solas is an older, more experienced man who comes across as always having the upper hand. What you prefer in bed doesn't necessarily correlate to personality, and plus, I like surprises in my writing. I prefer sub!Solas for this reason.

 

Dark!Solas done wrong is a personal pet peeve of mine as well. I'm very attached to my idea of what dark!Solas is like and what the darkness in him is actually like, so I hate it when done in a way that makes no sense with his character. 

 

I was telling my husband about this conversation and he chimed in:

 

Husband: I could totally see Solas in a BDSM realtionship with Vivienne, where Vivienne is his dom. "Darling, out there you might be a wolf, but in here, you are a kitten. My kitten."


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I can only speak for myself.

 

discussion of abuse in BDSM scene below:

Spoiler

 

In the case of Solas, my problem is less to do with the above and more that:

1. A lot of it is really terribly written. A lot of it has plenty of the problems that I have outlined above - especially when they play on the whole, ~ oh he's the Dread Wolf ~, like he has this insatiable, animalstic lust thing going on and absolutely cannot control himself. Urgh. Pisss on that. You're a grown adult man who is three thousand years old  surely you must have learned some semblance of restraint whilst stuck in the fade, bloody hell egg. I just don't like how Dark!Solas is done really by most people.

 

2. It plays to type. Solas is an older, more experienced man who comes across as always having the upper hand. What you prefer in bed doesn't necessarily correlate to personality, and plus, I like surprises in my writing. I prefer sub!Solas for this reason.

It seems that my formulation is misleading a lot of people. When I talk of dominance, I don't talk BDSM. At all. Normal, usual, average in that manner. I was just baffled how so many people refuse the idea of him being the leading partner in relationship. (not bed! Although........... wrong trail of thoughts, uhm.)

But I suppose that might be the culprit.  As Anariel points out below ->

 

Sadly most fanfics of that nature focus on the sex.



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I should not have clicked that tag. Oops.

 

*retires to feels corner, wondering if there's any hope of even trying to write fluff chapter might work*

 

I'm writing the last section before the rest. Stuck on parents' response to knowing about Nirwen & Nehn. It's a mess.

I......I have given up on fluff with my Zevellan fic,

 

Junesdom can be fluff. At least there.....Wisdom is a spirit.......I would have to be pretty damn creative to turn that into what zevellan is slowly becoming.

 

Zevran: I'm right here, my friend. I already have ideas with diagrams and everything for you.

Me; *facepalm* gd zevran.....

 

Top Edit

 

Because apparently this is all I can post about.

 

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Speaking of Dom/Dark Solas, Feynite writes a pretty good one in her The Dread Wolf's Heart AU. It's a bit creepy, but it's sooo good.

 

Edit: For those who are wondering, yes, Solas in this fic always asks for consent.


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I......I have given up on fluff with my Zevellan fic,

 

Junesdom can be fluff. At least there.....Wisdom is a spirit.......I would have to be pretty damn creative to turn that into what zevellan is slowly becoming.

 

Zevran: I'm right here, my friend. I already have ideas with diagrams and everything for you.

Me; *facepalm* gd zevran.....

 

I laughed when I saw you're TOP again :lol:


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Husband: I could totally see Solas in a BDSM realtionship with Vivienne, where Vivienne is his dom. "Darling, out there you might be a wolf, but in here, you are a kitten. My kitten."

You husband owes me a monitor. And coffee.  :lol:


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Dark!Solas done wrong is a personal pet peeve of mine as well. I'm very attached to my idea of what dark!Solas is like and what the darkness in him is actually like, so I hate it when done in a way that makes no sense with his character. 

 

I was telling my husband about this conversation and he chimed in:

 

Husband: I could totally see Solas in a BDSM realtionship with Vivienne, where Vivienne is his dom. "Darling, out there you might be a wolf, but in here, you are a kitten. My kitten."

I would read that.

 

Because I'm terrible.



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TF I didn't even see that I was TOP AGAIn!!!

 

TF?!?!??!

 

GD ZEVRAN!!!



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You husband owes me a monitor. And coffee.  :lol:

 

Out of likes <3 Hope the monitor's fine, though.

 

I would read that.

 

Because I'm terrible.

 

You know, I'm seriously tempted to write a small one-shot with this one. I mean I already have Vivienne down, might as well put all this character study to good use. But I have all these other things going :lol:


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I laughed when I saw you're TOP again :lol:

 

It's her destiny.


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Dark!Solas done wrong is a personal pet peeve of mine as well. I'm very attached to my idea of what dark!Solas is like and what the darkness in him is actually like, so I hate it when done in a way that makes no sense with his character. 

 

I was telling my husband about this conversation and he chimed in:

 

Husband: I could totally see Solas in a BDSM realtionship with Vivienne, where Vivienne is his dom. "Darling, out there you might be a wolf, but in here, you are a kitten. My kitten."

 

Actually would pay to see that omfg that sounds amazing.

 

Rivalmance finally done right. (Or beautiful hate sex, at least).


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