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[Dr. Doctor]

I think Sera is physically attractive. (She reminds me of a girl I dated years ago.) But I'm not digging her Red Jenny mercenary background plus the "I don't like authority" stuff. I don't know why. In real life I would be friends or date someone like that. But as the Inquisitor leading this super organized Inquisition thing, I feel a bit put off. lol!

Solas: So you're some kind of anarchist?

Sera: I'm not exactly a fan of the nobility, or any of these bigwigs who think they can push us around.

Solas: Sera, you're one of "those bigwigs" now.

Sera: No I'm not!

Solas: Attending fancy balls, dating Lady Trevelyan, look the soldiers even salute when you walk by!

Sera: It's like something out of a sodding fairy tale.

[AnimeLavellan]

Running down the mental list of things I'd do as DAI's GM, it could be that the ancient elves were immortal, but not in the way you'd expect. The higher echelons of elven society knew how to transfer consciousness in a manner similar to how Flemeth has managed to extend her lifespan by possessing her daughters.

While exploring the ruins of Arthalan the party makes a startling discovery, the gods of the Dalish pantheon once walked the surface of Thedas in corporeal bodies. Like the Old Gods, their consciousness is trapped in the Fade while the priests that gave up their bodies to be their vessels remain inside the various temples throughout the city. If Solas can find an intact temple he might be able to view the memories of the vessel, potentially giving the Inquisiton invaluable information about the Elder One.

The party finds a temple but hits an unexpected jackpot, one of the elven gods is still within it's corporeal vessel. But despite being in Uthenera it's way to decrepit to last much longer. Solas could use his ability to go into the Fade in an attempt to retrieve what knowledge he can and attempts to...only to have the ancient deity temporarily posess him. The Mark of the Rift within the Inquisitor's hand glows brilliantly and suddenly Solas is returned to his body.

In the few moments he was in the Fade Solas saw more than just a few glimpses of the past, he saw the memories of of an eon-old being and finds himself wanting more. This of course, is a problem. If Solas leaves his body for an extended period of time there's no telling if he could ever come back or if the being that would inhabit his body would be friendly. Solas doesn't really mind if he was lost in the Fade for the rest of his days, he'd be able to find out more about the world than he'd ever be able to if he slept in a million ruins. The Inquisitor could put a permanent end to this conundrum, but Solas might not approve.

Of course there is another option. Depending on the Inquisitor's race and other choices the Elven God might be convinced to return Solas...if another suitable vessel can be found. The Inquisitor, even a Dalish one won't suffice due to the changes the Mark of the Rift has wrought on their soul. If the Inquisitor is in a relationship with Solas then an OGB scenario pops up.

Now, from a narrative standpoint this probably wouldn't happen. David Gaider came up with the Dark Ritual concept way before DAO's main story was fully fleshed out. Repeating it to me would kind of diminish the impact of the original, which is a major component of Morrigan's character development. If suddenly it becomes a part of another character's story it kind of cheapens the concept because suddenly it isn't unique anymore.

 

That ^^^ is a very interesting theory.

 

^This. I like it in here.  Outside the thread it's all

 

 

But inside it's (usually) just

 

 

Glad things are calming down now. And I really wish people would stop going after the devs every time we get a reveal. Devs are people. This close to release, they are really, really tired people. By this point, I think hearing yet another performance of the "you suck" choir would send me into the closet with Cheetos and booze for an extended period of time. Not...that I use that as a coping strategy or anything...um...*cough*

 

 

 

THIS ^^^^

 

Wow. So that was a lot to catch up on and a lot of mixed emotions to sort through.

I'm still in shock that he has finally been confirmed to be a love interest, but I'm still reeling from the fact that he is both race and gender restricted...did NOT see that coming. I feel fortunate that I am a straight female and was planning on romancing him as a female if he was available so I am glad that he is available to me. On the other hand, I feel so sorry for those wanting to romance him as a male Inquisitor...I really felt like he was going to be bi.

At first, I was really worried that, because he is so restricted that his romance arc might be less fleshed out compared to some of the other characters that are available to more Inquisitors...but then I got thinking that this might actually be really interesting. Being so specific is actually an advantage in that the romance arc can play out in a much more defined way that wouldn't have to account for different variables, such as race and gender. So, colour be intrigued! (that, and I have complete and utter faith in Patrick to write an amazing romance arc that is full fleshed out and of the same quality and quantity as the others...and Alan's post made me even more hopeful!)

 

I was originally intending to roll a female human rogue (because I love smexy interracial/species relationships...what can I say, opposites attract for me!) but I am totally fine with redesigning my character as a female Dalish elf, still not sure whether I want to roll a rogue or a mage yet, but leaning towards mage now.

Anyway, I was playing around in the Sims 4 CAS demo and tried my hand at creating my elf, Rue, as I was holding off on Solas confirmation before visualising my Inquisitor!

 

 

 

And, once again, much love to the Solas Thread *hugs*

 

And THIS ^^^^ Very cute quizzy btw

 

Just because Solas is open minded it didn't mean he was going to be available to everyone, case in point. People can be open minded and still have preferences. 

 

THIS ^^^^

 

*bangs head against wall* *repeatedly*
I got to sleep with the intention to stop following DA:I news cause I decided that I already have more than enough info and don't want to know the whole game in advance, when this morning I took just a small tiny little glance at the board... and the headline of this thread jumped at me.

God. damn. it.

... Now I need to make another unplanned character. *sigh* If male, was allowed, I'd already have my usual elf-rogue ready and set. Oh well.
At least he is not in my first two runs (probably) so I can get a warning if it's sucky romance (which I doubt) or about elf babies.
I originally wasn't interested in Solas as a LI at all, but simply as a companion.
Then SOMEONE compared him personality-wise to possibly Spock/Mordin with visuals of Charles Xavier/Lex Luther and... I did wish for him to be romancable if he goes in that direction...


Or maybe Yule (my ice-lovign elf-mage) needs a gender change? *glances over*
Yule: .... *glare*
Me: No outright protest? Hmm... this could work...
Yule: ... *sigh* *retreats in fear of plotting brain*
Me: *mumbling*That's resignation to acceptation, right?

*reads new posts before posthing this one*
... Great. First Spock/Mordin/Charles Xavier/Lex Luther references and now the VOICE X.x
Way to abuse all my weaknesses at once, do you?
The voice was the first thing that sold me to Fenris and Nihlus and Garrus and James, you know?!

...
Phew. I finally made it to the end of the thread... XD

 

XD Made my day

 

Jedi Elf confirmed

 

Has this been done yet?

 

Spoiler

 

XD

 

Isn't it obvious why Solas is gated to elves?

He's actually a centuries-old vampire who subsists entirely on the blood of elven women, feeding upon his victims during acts of lovemaking. If the Inquisitor agrees to provide him with blood, Solas eventually offers to turn her into his undead bride.

 

THIS ^^^ is my new head canon

 

I was already planning on a Mage female Dalish for my fist playhthrough, so the revelation about Solas didn't change my plan.

 

-le snip-

 

And this just about sums up the playthrough I wanna do   Weird

 

Speaking as someone who has repeatedly played DA2 with male!mage!Hawke friendmancing Fenris almost every time  (I have one rivalmance and one Lady Hawke), it's very possible to find other things in the game to mix things up, whether it's story choices or messing around with different character builds or parties.  But I never seem to tire of playing mage or romancing Fenris, so that might be unique to me, haha.

 

I also always romance Fenris. But I play fem/Hawke; usually a rogue.

 

Edit: REALLY sorry for the long post....

[wildannie]

Speaking as someone who has repeatedly played DA2 with male!mage!Hawke friendmancing Fenris almost every time  (I have one rivalmance and one Lady Hawke), it's very possible to find other things in the game to mix things up, whether it's story choices or messing around with different character builds or parties.  But I never seem to tire of playing mage or romancing Fenris, so that might be unique to me, haha.

I'm guilty of this too I've got mostly friendmance FHawke (mages and rogues) and one rivalmance.  I had intended romancing Anders second playthrough but just couldn't bring myself to knowing what happens and that it was inevitable.  All my pcs romanced Zevran, all f elf but they do have different friends, outlooks, sense of humor etc...  I may also have a fmage amell who romanced Zev, but the problem was I found Alistair to be unbearably annoying

 

I'm more confident on being able to stick with the plans this time - I like Cullen, and my pcs always flirted with him in origins.  His attitude towards mages is kind of understandable in DA2 and I'm really interested to see how his character has developed since then...   Ooooo,  I said I was going to romance him with a human rogue... scratch that, its got to be a mage...  Dalish rogue for Solas then.

[Kirie]

Well, Solas isn't less interesting to me because he's straight. I am really disappointed about the imbalance and, I'll be honest, it's hard for me to maintain my interest in the game right now. Part of it is a bit of bias that I'm not interested in Iron Bull as a romance, because he's not attractive to me and I don't support the Qunari, I admit. I was really hoping to fall back on equal options overall. It would help if Blackwall was available, but I don't really want to hope for it, since that just means other people have less options. But if I can muster up enough motivation to stay interested in DA:I, generally, then I'll probably be around this thread as usual.

Sorry for the presumption on my part Mort. I definitely understand your point of view, and I don't blame you one bit. Very glad to see you'll be sticking around the thread still!

[LBickert]

I also always romance Fenris. But I play fem/Hawke; usually a rogue.

 

Edit: REALLY sorry for the long post....

 

Yup, I did this too! Always falling for Fenris in DA2 and I was usually a fem/hawke rogue as well. Something about elfs makes me swoon.   

[Illyria]

Solas: So you're some kind of anarchist?

Sera: I'm not exactly a fan of the nobility, or any of these bigwigs who think they can push us around.

Solas: Sera, you're one of "those bigwigs" now.

Sera: No I'm not!

Solas: Attending fancy balls, dating Lady Trevelyan, look the soldiers even salute when you walk by!

Sera: It's like something out of a sodding fairy tale.

 

This is amazing.  Thanks for making me smile.

[AnimeLavellan]

I planned so many of my wardens, but I actually only completed Origins with two of them. My M!Surana romanced Morrigan and my M!Mahariel romanced Zevran. In DA2, I have two Hawkes (though I completed the game at least five or six times); both were female, but the first was a mage while the second was a rogue. Both romanced Fenris. Plus, I also had a bit of a crush on Orsino as well as Tamlen (my first DA love ). And, maybe it was just me, but I also thought Huon was hot and that he and Nyssa were perfect for each other (aside from the blood magic part).

 

Elf fetish?

 

....

 

Seems about right.

[Felya87]

Don't let adoption be a depressing thought!  

My cousin and his wife just adopted a beautiful baby boy and they are beside themselves with joy! (They aren't religious, but they went through Catholic charities. It's a great option!)

 

never! even if I could have children, adoption is an experience I would have done the same. I have many family friends who have done so, and friends who have been adopted, and are all truly happy.

 

But I know it would make having a child harder than having the chance to have one myself. And it was quite depressing when I knew about my medical condition, mostly because I had other problems.

 

still, that make totally not against the chance to have a character that would like having a family once the big disaster is finished.

[dragondreamer]

I'm secretly hoping for something akin to "the dark ritual" and that my fem elf will become the Mother of Dragons. (ohhh f*** yes...)

 

Gotta be honest, sounds like it might be fun. 

 

My Surana is already the Father of Dragons, if put that way.

[renfrees]

I'm the same.  I've tried romancing other characters but then I get distracted by Fenris and accidently hit the flirt button.  Several times.

 

But my main Hawkes are all pretty different, even if most (all) of them are sarcastic, Lady Hawke mages.

Hah, words from my mouth. The only times Fenris was friendzoned, were when I was playing male Hawkes, who tried to romance Anders or Merrill. But somehow Hawke's LIs in these playthroughs ended up on a bench, and I've been running around in the company of Fenris and Isabela (I adore their relationship, too). 

 

I really hope that the reason of gating is not breeding. I won't romance Solas on principle, then. Not that I'm against babies, but I don't want it to be his reason for falling for my Inquisitor.

[Phate Phoenix]

Something else to keep in mind, is that it looks like Solas wasn't originally meant to be a LI.  He may have become a LI after the inclusion of races as a way of giving straight traditional Dalish women more of an option.  If Solas and Sera were already seen as straight and lesbian to begin with, the option for more traditional Dalish men simply was never there.

 

That's an amazing point, and I can't believe I didn't think of it myself. I mean, I thought he was probably was a new addition to the LI group, but it never occurred to me that he might have been written as straight before that decision came in.

 

I love the Solas thread. Y'all are so smart. 

[ApathyFollow72]

Let me explain myself. I was sharing my personal thoughts on the matter. In hindsight I realize I may have sounded childish and over dramatic. And, for that I do apologize. 

 

And, LBickert, you're not wrong. I do feel like it would be repeatative. I sometimes go on Youtube and watch romance videos, either to see a character's romance arc maybe because I don't have plans to romance that character; or I want to see how different options can change the romance, a different perspective. An example, in DA 2 I romanced Anders on the friendship path with a diplomatic Hawke. I then Youtube his romance and saw the rivalmance arc. It gave me a different view of his romance. That's was I was hoping for for Solas, going on Youtube and seeing the different options. Now, only a fem elf can romance him and yes while not every character is going to be the same, they're all female elves. So, it gives me the feeling that once you experience once you don't have to do it. I may be wrong, it a common occurrence for me, but that's my opinion as of right now. Could it change it the future? Of course. Nothing is set in stone. I've already decided that I am going to go ahead and play my fem elf mage as my first playthrough and romance Solas. Funny, what four hours of sleep can do. 

 

And, I do apologize for any derailment to the thread I may have caused. I only wished to share my opinions.

 

I also have a feeling this might be late again. Sorry for that too.

[AnimeLavellan]

Let me explain myself. I was sharing my personal thoughts on the matter. In hindsight I realize I may have sounded childish and over dramatic. And, for that I do apologize. 

 

And, LBickert, you're not wrong. I do feel like it would be repeatative. I sometimes go on Youtube and watch romance videos, either to see a character's romance arc maybe because I don't have plans to romance that character; or I want to see how different options can change the romance, a different perspective. An example, in DA 2 I romanced Anders on the friendship path with a diplomatic Hawke. I then Youtube his romance and saw the rivalmance arc. It gave me a different view of his romance. That's was I was hoping for for Solas, going on Youtube and seeing the different options. Now, only a fem elf can romance him and yes while not every character is going to be the same, they're all female elves. So, it gives me the feeling that once you experience once you don't have to do it. I may be wrong, it a common occurrence for me, but that's my opinion as of right now. Could it change it the future? Of course. Nothing is set in stone. I've already decided that I am going to go ahead and play my fem elf mage as my first playthrough and romance Solas. Funny, what four hours of sleep can do. 

 

And, I do apologize for any derailment to the thread I may have caused. I only wished to share my opinions.

 

I also have a feeling this might be late again. Sorry for that too.

 

This is what I do, though I never bothered with looking up Anders' romance arc, friend or rival (he's just not my type). And I agree with everything you said here.

 

On another note, I think Solas is gonna be like what happened with Fenris, for me at least. I just can't not romance Fenris. And I have a feeling that I won't be able to just sideline Solas; I'll be making f!Lavellan's for days.

[Fialka]

I'm secretly hoping for something akin to "the dark ritual" and that my fem elf will become the Mother of Dragons. (ohhh f*** yes...)

 

Gotta be honest, sounds like it might be fun. 

 

My Surana is already the Father of Dragons, if put that way.

You know... this might sound weird, but I think I'd mind less if 'elven babies' is the reason for the race gate IF there is in fact some nefarious reason behind it  . And here's where I admit something slightly embarrassing: some of you might have noticed I'm more than happy to go all pissy over romance tropes I hate, but, the whole 'I only pursued you to further my own selfish goals, until I fell in love for real' is one I actually like (in fiction, anyway - don't judge me!  ). I actually thought the Morrigan romance might be kind of cool for that reason (though I never did it myself, since i never play straight men if i can help it... not sure if it comes into play or not). I hope they don't tell that same story again, but i do think it'd be interesting to have a gender-swapped equivalent to that.

[AnimeLavellan]

You know... this might sound weird, but I think I'd mind less if 'elven babies' is the reason for the race gate IF there is in fact some nefarious reason behind it  . And here's where I admit something slightly embarrassing: some of you might have noticed I'm more than happy to go all pissy over romance tropes I hate, but, the whole 'I only pursued you to further my own selfish goals, until I fell in love for real' is one I actually like (in fiction, anyway - don't judge me!  ). I actually thought the Morrigan romance might be kind of cool for that reason (though I never did it myself, since i never play straight men if i can help it... not sure if it comes into play or not). I hope they don't tell that same story again, but i do think it'd be interesting to have a gender-swapped equivalent to that.

 

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[HeyCal]

Everyone keeps saying he only wants the lady elf for her womb and it makes me sad. as much as I'd have liked to romance him maybe with a male elf, I think it's an interesting dynamic for a LI to have a type they were into. I'm super surprised they would do his romance as such, since I said they would never make Varric solely for female dwarves, when now Solas is the elf version of it.

I understand that everyone is bummed, but it's bumming me out that no one seems to really want to romance him now out of almost resentment. Just because he's only for female elf doesn't mean he's not as good as the other LIs and I agree that he probably wasn't added as a romance until the races were added back in. We've never met a companion before that was only interested in their species and I really feel like it's going to be really interesting to talk to him about it and get his feelings/explanations for it. It's weird for me because it seems very xenophobic of him, but I'm trusting that the devs will do a good job with his romance. Honestly, the ancient elf theory sounds really cool, haha, but yes, it's totally more than just wanting babies (though I'm pleased as punch with the possibility)

[AnimeLavellan]

Everyone keeps saying he only wants the lady elf for her womb and it makes me sad. as much as I'd have liked to romance him maybe with a male elf, I think it's an interesting dynamic for a LI to have a type they were into. I'm super surprised they would do his romance as such, since I said they would never make Varric solely for female dwarves, when now Solas is the elf version of it.

I understand that everyone is bummed, but it's bumming me out that no one seems to really want to romance him now out of almost resentment. Just because he's only for female elf doesn't mean he's not as good as the other LIs and I agree that he probably wasn't added as a romance until the races were added back in. We've never met a companion before that was only interested in their species and I really feel like it's going to be really interesting to talk to him about it and get his feelings/explanations for it. It's weird for me because it seems very xenophobic of him, but I'm trusting that the devs will do a good job with his romance. Honestly, the ancient elf theory sounds really cool, haha, but yes, it's totally more than just wanting babies (though I'm pleased as punch with the possibility)

 

THIS ^^^^^

[Dean_the_Young]

After Gaider hyped us about trans characters, it would really suck if they picked a cissexist reason like that (that would invalidate trans headcanons).

 

Since when was wanting heterosexual children-enabling relationship a transphobic reasoning?

[Melca36]

Everyone keeps saying he only wants the lady elf for her womb and it makes me sad. as much as I'd have liked to romance him maybe with a male elf, I think it's an interesting dynamic for a LI to have a type they were into. I'm super surprised they would do his romance as such, since I said they would never make Varric solely for female dwarves, when now Solas is the elf version of it.

I understand that everyone is bummed, but it's bumming me out that no one seems to really want to romance him now out of almost resentment. Just because he's only for female elf doesn't mean he's not as good as the other LIs and I agree that he probably wasn't added as a romance until the races were added back in. We've never met a companion before that was only interested in their species and I really feel like it's going to be really interesting to talk to him about it and get his feelings/explanations for it. It's weird for me because it seems very xenophobic of him, but I'm trusting that the devs will do a good job with his romance. Honestly, the ancient elf theory sounds really cool, haha, but yes, it's totally more than just wanting babies (though I'm pleased as punch with the possibility)

 

 

For what its worth I am looking forward to rolling an elf for him and SEEING how his story goes.  People are jumping to conclusions and making these ridiculous assumptions and they have not even played the game.   

 

It just seems like a great many on this forum want to be catered to and they can't see anything beyond that.

[LiquidLyrium]

From a series that already gave us the 'F*** or die' trope in the first game, I think it's a very legitimate concern that Solas's character arc might be Dark Ritual 2.0. It may not turn out to be that way, but we are wary for a reason. They have already given us a scenario which heavily forced the issue of pregnancy--regardless of if the parties involved wanted it or not. 

 

I'm hoping it's not ending up that way, but it's completely understandable why people would make that assumption, and acting like this speculation is based on nothing is being a bit disingenuous, imo.

[Phate Phoenix]

Everyone keeps saying he only wants the lady elf for her womb and it makes me sad. as much as I'd have liked to romance him maybe with a male elf, I think it's an interesting dynamic for a LI to have a type they were into. I'm super surprised they would do his romance as such, since I said they would never make Varric solely for female dwarves, when now Solas is the elf version of it.

I understand that everyone is bummed, but it's bumming me out that no one seems to really want to romance him now out of almost resentment. Just because he's only for female elf doesn't mean he's not as good as the other LIs and I agree that he probably wasn't added as a romance until the races were added back in. We've never met a companion before that was only interested in their species and I really feel like it's going to be really interesting to talk to him about it and get his feelings/explanations for it. It's weird for me because it seems very xenophobic of him, but I'm trusting that the devs will do a good job with his romance. Honestly, the ancient elf theory sounds really cool, haha, but yes, it's totally more than just wanting babies (though I'm pleased as punch with the possibility)

 

I think quite a few of us have come around, especially after a night's sleep. It was vitriolic yesterday, but there were quite a few faces I've never seen in here before, too, so... 

[RynJ]

The only reason the news worried me is that I worried about what this harsh restriction might mean for the open-mindedness that is apparently a huge part of Solas's character. That doesn't mix all that well at first glance with his very specific gating so that's why I was a little bit skeptical. Plus, as someone who was never all that into the elves and the human vs elf struggle, I could never quite get into characters that were all about that elf power and elf things. I liked them, but I never loved them (Merrill for instance).

 

But I trust the devs to write a compelling story, though, and I'm sure it will turn out to make sense and be great or at least intriguing. I'm sure (or at least I hope) that these super story reasons will have us going "ahhh, okay" by the time we play through the game.

 

Until then, it's just a matter of switching to a character that was already my alternate canon. I'm romancing that darn pajama elf no matter what it takes!

 

But since I got the news I was waiting for, I'll be a lot more careful and sparse in my browsing of these forums now. I'll check in on this thread when I can! Stay classy, Solas thread!

[Parkimus]

Everyone keeps saying he only wants the lady elf for her womb and it makes me sad. - snip -

I understand that everyone is bummed, but it's bumming me out that no one seems to really want to romance him now out of almost resentment. Just because he's only for female elf doesn't mean he's not as good as the other LIs and I agree that he probably wasn't added as a romance until the races were added back in. We've never met a companion before that was only interested in their species and I really feel like it's going to be really interesting to talk to him about it and get his feelings/explanations for it. It's weird for me because it seems very xenophobic of him, but I'm trusting that the devs will do a good job with his romance. Honestly, the ancient elf theory sounds really cool, haha, but yes, it's totally more than just wanting babies (though I'm pleased as punch with the possibility).

 

If anything, having such restricted criteria as a LI may lead to a more focused experience (he can talk specifically about elves, the future with an elf PC, etc). Solas may mention wanting children but I doubt it will be his main motivation for romancing an elf PC. A Morrigan-esque OGB theory, as some have speculated, would be somewhat interesting but a little disappointing - though I'm skeptical of that as well.