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[Sable Rhapsody]

What is that game like? Do you get dialogue options? What are the relationships like (if there are any)? I know the environments and facial animations are good.

Keep in mind, I'm not very far in. Beginning Chapter 2.

I'm starting with the first Witcher, so it's...clunky Mods help, but Witcher 1 came out in 2007 and it shows. I also get the feeling that the game expects me to chase skirts, which I'm not doing, and that can be a bit uncomfortable.

On the flip side, the music is gorgeous, the worldbuilding and lore are really cool, and Geralt IMO is a decent protagonist so far. He's got some good snark going on, though you don't get to pick his dialogue options in Witcher 1 except "investigate" hubs and decision points. And I like Triss Merigold, who seems to be the major female character, so I'm pursuing that relationship.

[Cee]

The funny thing is, there's a picture of me at age 4 touching a baby goat's butt.

 

My destiny has come full circle.

[NightSymphony]

I'm so excited..and I just can't hide it...  lol

 

Not only will I get to play Trespasser when I get my new computer...but I also get to play Witcher. I bought 1 and 2 on GOG a few months ago, thinking the computer I have now could handle them ..but noooooooooo. 

 

Also, my wolf jawbone necklace came yesterday. I'm wearing it now.  It's pretty small..but for $14 I'm not complaining too much.

[Flemmy]

Uuuuuh...  had a dream that I've dyed my hair into some sort of shocking color. Again. What is my subconscious trying to tell me!? (....probably to dye my hair. Can't say I haven't been thinking about it for some time...)

Or maybe you just need a change in life over all...

[BoscoBread]

I'm so excited..and I just can't hide it...  lol

 

Not only will I get to play Trespasser when I get my new computer...but I also get to play Witcher. I bought 1 and 2 on GOG a few months ago, thinking the computer I have now could handle them ..but noooooooooo. 

 

Also, my wolf jawbone necklace came yesterday. I'm wearing it now.  It's pretty small..but for $14 I'm not complaining too much.

WOOO - Ok you can skip 1 and 2(unless you really want to play) 3 is where it's at and you don't need the other two for anything other than basic background. I never played either game beyond like an hour and never felt like I was out of the loop.   The game is beautiful and the story is wonderful and you can run around with Geralt's shirt off and have him in long flowing hair. HE'S PERFECT. Also there's Roche. Also Eredin!! Also Avallach(WEEEEP HUSBANDO). AND UNICORN SEX!!! AND GWENT!!!  The DLC was fantastic and this guy was in it and super beautiful. And his story was incredibly sad.  It's massive and well worth the money.  I love it so much. 

 

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[NightSymphony]

lol..but I already bought 1 and 2.  :-P  3 is still too expensive for me right now since I still need to dish out $40 to get Inquisition Gamer of the Year edition. 

[Cee]

 

So I did upload the pic at some point.

 

This will forever cement my goat legacy.

 

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Here is a tiny city elf child with the bad bowl cut her mom always insisted on, enjoying the goats.

 

 

[S.W.]

I'm already a little dissapointed with everything that happened. I had hoped that Solas' plan would be something questionable, something that not all Inquisitors would approve of. But right now, it doesn't look like that. Tearing down the Veil? All right, I can go with that, see what comes of it. Starting a sort of rebellion across Thedas and fighting for a new homeland for Elves? Well, I can see why it cannot be achieved peacefully.
Killing everyone? 'World burning in a raw chaos'? Really? That's his great plan? He sounds as bad a Corypheus and the only thing that makes him different is that he's a handsome elf, and not a twisted darkspawn. But that doesn't help much. I just don't want them to go that route.

From what Solas told in Tresspasser, at some point I got the impression that he's not entirely sure if his plan will get most of people in Thedas die. I just hope that he underestimates them and it wouldn't end that badly. But still...he's ready to do that no matter what the cost is and I don't like it. I just hope that in the next game he won't be painted as a mad villain who is sure he's plan will kill everyone. I'd rather see that he's not sure of that and is willing to take that risk.
 
With romanced Inquisitor, he acts as though it could still work, so it doesn't seem like what he feels must be done is going to kill everyone and destroy this world. Otherwise, why would he even bother with starting the romance?
 
And you know what makes me bitter? I  (and my Inquisitor) felt so sorry for him when the Orb broke. It made me sad. And in Tresspasser he revealed that he wanted the Orb to tear down the Veil and let this world burn. How can he be so genuinely distressed then? I don't know anymore what to think. ;/ And my Lavellan...all these precious moments ruined. She was going to be just another victim all along...

 
Yeah, if I'm going to be honest, I'm happy his character wasn't completely butchered, and I think Trespasser was genuinely one of BioWare's best DLCs to date, but I'm actually pretty disappointed with their treatment of Solas. Even if they've been planning this development for some time, it's frustrating.

(spoiler because I'm angry and I write a lot and I get quite Solas critical in this post)

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I mean, if he's so willing to destroy the world, why make him so compassionate and sympathetic in the first place? Why bother making him care about injured refugees in the Hinterlands or innocents caught up in the storm? Solas, I always imagined, is quite capable and willing to do extreme, sometimes violent things - but for the sake of others in the long run. And I'm fine with that. I don't think means to an end is always such a terrible approach, but, there comes a point where the immediate consequences of your actions outweigh, and possibly even tar, your desired end. Destroying the whole bloody world definitely comes under that latter category. Despite his willingness to go to extremes, if you'd asked me six months ago - who do you reckon, out of all the DA cast members, would be most likely to destroy the world? - the answer wouldn't have been Solas.

My opinion of the character has taken a massive hit, if I'm going to be honest still, since what drew me to him was his compassion and his moral standards - both of which just seem... hypocritical, an attempt to recover from his mistakes, and attempt to 'do his best' despite circumstances, rather than changing circumstances he is fully in control of. I think my opinion of Solavellan has gone down as well given that two year time gap - enough time for most people to recover, move on, find a much healthier relationship with someone who isn't going to drop everything and leave with no explanation. Solas has treated Lavellan like crap and I think they would honestly be better with someone else, despite how sweet they are together. I mean, there's a comic out there (hilarious, by the way) which has Solas admitting his hidden, undying love to a teapot - before breaking off the romance, 'ir abelas vhenan'. That's basically how he saw Lavellan at first. That's basically the romance. I think the fact that he viewed her as a literal object disgusts me - and it hampers the perspective that it was a romance between equals, retrospectively. I also think it's the reason he isolates the Inquisitor and askes them to oppose him (well, he implies as much, even if he doesn't say it) in Trespasser - they're the only person, to Solas, that is even half-way a person, and can even attempt to oppose him.

I'm not entirely sure if I ship Solavellan anymore. I definitely like the egg as a character, still - although he's taken the jump from interesting protagonist to interesting antagonist, and that development has meant that I feel that Lavellan deserves much better. Even if that star-crossed lovers thing with redemptive love despite all the barriers is a really compelling drama I just feel too much for my Lavellan.

I think what also irritates me is that yet again, our character will be the agent which retains stability, rather than the agent for change. In all three games we've been a character who has attempted to defend how things are. In DA:O's case, against a blight, that makes sense. In DA2's case, that's arguably more questionable - sure, they kick out the qunari, but they ultimately are forced to pick a side. In DA:I's case, this comes out the strongest (part of me believes that the assisination quest is unecessary. There's a clear line of sucession to Gaspard, who was opposing Celene. Orlais would probably not be in political chaos. Even if it is - would that really help Corypheus so much? Idk, we can still take the bastard down. Screw Orlais). I repeatedly felt like I was defending institutions and organisations which I honestly don't think are worth saving. If they play DA4 so I have to defend the stability of Tevinter against the Qunari & the elves, I'm leaving. I really, really don't like Tevinter.
 

  I really will never escape the goats.
 
I was thinking of getting a fennec fox with the leftover crowns I had.

Cee, I think you've become the unofficial Goat Lady of the blanketfort.

[Flemmy]

Yeah, I've thought the same

But how about Love is an open door:

SOLAS: OK, can I just say something crazy?
LAVELLAN: I love crazy!
SOLAS: All my life has been a series of stupid mistakes.
And then suddenly I bump right into you.

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[Flemmy]

 

 

I only have time to come up with this (from Love is an open door):

 

Lavellan: It's funny...

Solas: What?

Lavellan: We finish each other's...

Solas ...enemies.

Lavellan: That's what I was gonna say!

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[rowrow]

I still don't see Solas as the big bad we are going to have to face. Is he cunning? Yes. Does he have an agenda that I disagree with? To a certain extent. (I really want to see the veil brought down personally, just not at the cost of innocent lives) I think he knows something worse is coming and that he has to make some difficult choices that may or may not harm those living in Thedas. There are too many approvals based on acts of compassion and kindness for me to think Solas is this all powerful evil villain that is bent on destroying the current world. Instead he feels a deep guilt and responsibility for the current state of the world and feels it is his duty to right his wrongs. Even when that might make him look like a monster to others. I see him as someone willing to put the well being of the many over the needs of the few.

 

The elves of today are really no better off than they were when he was freeing slaves pre-veil. If anything he sees their plight as worse and it is all his fault. To fix that, to give them a chance at a decent existence, it will require setting Theads on its ass. A lot of people are going to have a hard time adapting or accepting that kind of change. This is what I thought when I heard him say while this world burned in raw chaos he would restore the elves. It's going to cause a severe shift in the balance of power. I'm not saying that catastrophic events aren't going to happen, we know that is likely after seeing the destruction of the crossroads from the creation of the veil, but people survive catastrophic events all the time.

 

Why do the Inquisitor and advisors react by preparing for a war, though? That's where Trespasser leaves us. Did Solas just do a poor job of explaining himself and then walk away letting the Inquisitor think he meant to destroy the world? I'm not saying that Bioware wouldn't set up our expectations and then knock them down again ... they might. But it can't hinge simply on 'the Inquisitor jumped to conclusions'. Solas takes the trouble to tell the Inquisitor what he intends, and even invites them to stop him. Why do that, if he himself didn't believe that the consequences of his plan would be extremely dire? Why talk about people living out their last days in comfort? Why talk about whether the people of modern Thedas are really people or not? Correct me if I'm wrong, but he refers to 'your people' and 'my people' even when talking to Lavellan, so 'restoring elves' likely does not mean any elves currently living in Thedas (except Abelas and friends). It's not just political upheaval he's after. Taking down the Veil will change Nature itself. The effects will presumably extend all over the world, well beyond Thedas.

 

I definitely see Solas as someone compassionate, who wants what's best for most people. But we already know he's willing to fracture the world in order to bring about what he thinks is right. He did it once. At this point, it's my theory that he's either motivated mainly by grief over his mistakes, or the foreknowledge of some greater disaster coming to the world. (I keep thinking he knows something about the Old Gods we don't.)  I'm kind of hoping that it's the second case, but at the end of the day I still find myself questioning how it is that he feels himself qualified to decide just how many lives are worth paying as currency for restoring the world. And there's probably an uncomfortable parallel with the Inquisitor there. I see what you did Bioware ...

[Flemmy]

 

 

Wow, Sera looks really good in the Qunari armor *-*

Um, I mean I like her reaction! Solas and Bull's smiles are in sync!

I like your new profile pic Fen'Inan!

 

I love Noragami it's one of the few mangas I've read because I liked the anime so much.

 

Awesome Ariris! The song has an eerie tune to it, but it really fits the lyrics and your video! Your Lavellan is pretty too! She has a unique almost otherworldly look to her.

 

Confession time. I only use my mounts when I want to jump of ledges and other heights so I won't die   My mystical undying hart has taken me down many a mountain side.

 

I thought their banter was priceless   I would pay to see them interact again. What do you think Morrigan's reaction to Solas apparently murder power stealing Flemeth would be?

I'm of the opinion that if Solas were to succeed with his plans Morrigan would survive by going into the Crossroads and finding a safe place. 

 

My Skyrim horse was too heroic for his own good. Stupid horse thought he could fight dragons. I lost too many hours having to reload saves to revive him and Meeko -.-

 

 

 

 

@Mayriya 

I'm out of likes!

Disney Leliana is so cute!

Disney Josephine is kind of creepy... which is weird for me to think since I consider Jasmine the pwettiest pwincess

Disney Cullen looks much better than prince human Beast, but dat hair 

 

Like   and I haven't read Noragami yet beacuse I have so many others I am reading at the moment but I plan on reading it in the future.

[Kadan]

I've only played through it once, but I didn't see it so much as preparing for war as trying to find a way to stop Solas. I wouldn't put it past Bioware to have us think Solas is the threat when there is an even bigger one lurking.

 

Why is he determined to tear down the veil? Is he really so stuck in the past and his mistakes that he can't see anything else? I didn't see him as being that kind of person. That would be too black/white for Solas and he is very much about the grey areas when it comes to decisions. Even Weekes describes Solas as a tragic figure, not an evil one. So there has to be something we are missing. Maybe I'm waving my Team Optimism flag too proudly, but I don't think Solas is really the one we have to worry about.

 

Not that I am blatantly ignoring the possibility that he is indeed the bad guy, I see him as the misguided honorable sort that thinks he is the only answer to fixing a world he was responsible for creating in the first place. Because it can really go the way many think it will. In his eyes he created a world of ruin and death, as well as a world of tranquil. It is so much worse than he imagined, and maybe he is being short sighted when he sees it. He can't see past the bad, or in his mind the bad outweighs any good the world has. If this is the case I hope the Inquisitor can make him see that.

[FernRain]

*Writes from the fade*

 

Cee, do not disappoint the goat. It is perfect.. as though the Divines peered through Aetherius and offered a goat especially for you! The fennec cannot compare..

 

*Ah! A sloth demon! So tired..*

[rowrow]

I've only played through it once, but I didn't see it so much as preparing for war as trying to find a way to stop Solas. I wouldn't put it past Bioware to have us think Solas is the threat when there is an even bigger one lurking.

 

I wouldn't put it past them either. Half of me is hoping they do this because I don't want to spend the whole next game fighting Solas. The other half of me feels like it wouldn't do justice to Solas' story. For better or worse, Bioware has set him on this path, and even if it doesn't play out how we expect, I still want to know just how much Solas is willing to sacrifice. They raised that question, I can't see them not answering it.

 

 

Why is he determined to tear down the veil? Is is really so stuck in the past and his mistakes that he can't see anything else? I didn't see him as being that kind of person. That would be too black/white for Solas and he is very much about the grey areas when it comes to decisions. Even Weekes describes Solas as a tragic figure, not an evil one. So there has to be something we are missing. Maybe I'm waving my Team Optimism flag too proudly, but I don't think Solas is really the one we have to worry about.

 

I actually do kind of see him that way. I don't know that it makes him evil or black/white. It seems very human to me, and very tragic as well.

I do think there's something, or a lot of somethings we're missing though. Of course, Solas won't fill in the blanks for us. That would be too helpful.

[Flemmy]

I had a dream last night about me as a mage, Solas and Lavellan. It was the moment when Solas is just about to tear down the veil with some sort of magical machine (in the fade) and right then I had solution to tear down the veil safely without it being a threat to Thedas or the people. Somehow the dream jumps and suddenly Solas is all groggy from being hit to the head and a memory lost and I am in the middle of the process of removing the veil safely and the dream ends.... Weird, right?

[Ariella]

Thank you, everybody, and Cee, I send my application
 

My nightmare is that he does turn into a full-on villain, it becomes apparent that there was never any real hope and all the time you spent getting to know and love him was purely to make things 10000 x more sad. We're all familiar with the sad villain trope, but of course we don't think of Solas as a villain, we think of him as a friend/loved one and that's a special kind of torture by design. I have to say I personally deal with this 'your friend turns to the dark side' thing very badly, by which I mean I get really upset by it. Sometimes the rug gets pulled out from under you and you're left with the idea that character you liked was mostly imaginary. Sometimes it just really hurts to see someone with a good heart lose their way, like with Leliana if she gets hardened, or Bastila (who I seriously cried over even though I didn't romance her). With Solas it was a combination of both these hells, and sometimes I wasn't sure which.

I understand completely. One of my favorite novel series when talking about a person someone suspects is a traitor. The main characters says something along the lines of "I can't imagine him turning against me" and I find the response fitting and somewhat painful:

"That's what everyone always thinks about traitors, lad. It's why we hate them so."

Damned fitting for Solas. I just hope it doesn't last. He's one of my absolute favorites in a really strong cast. I fact, I think DAI is probably the strongest cast of characters, companion wise, they've done.

It's not impossible that the big threat we're expecting turns out not be the real threat. That's kind of what happened in DAI and the mage-templar war. But I don't see this happening with Solas and the Veil - for one thing, that seems like a bit of a cop-out. What makes this whole conflict so painful/riveting is that his willingness to sacrifice everything makes us question who he really is as a character. We don't know all the details yet, so we're not sure just how far gone or how ruthless we can say he is. Even if something Much Worse appears, they still need to answer that question. If they don't, we will all stay in this hell forever and the Blanketfort will need to start handing out citizenships or something.

I'm wondering if a lot of what will come into play this time will be his relationship with the Inquisitor, if they were friends, in the end, it may be easier to set him on a redemptive path. But you are right, though I have to wonder exactly how they're going to answer those questions. I'm hoping for a more show than tell, but the one person who might give us a clue is a statue, though Morrigan might have something, either from the well or from Mommy dearest, depending.

[Kadan]

I actually do kind of see him that way. I don't know that it makes him evil or black/white. It seems very human to me, and very tragic as well.

I do think there's something, or a lot of somethings we're missing though. Of course, Solas won't fill in the blanks for us. That would be too helpful.

The reason I don't see him as being so short sighted is because he spends so much of his time commenting on how impressed he is with team member that can see past the end of their own noses. Why would he continually bring up these things if he himself was incapable of doing the same? He commends Cassandra for giving up power, for admitting she was wrong even at the risk of looking weak, he even admires (at the very least supports) Iron Bull for not sacrificing the Chargers.

[rowrow]

I'm wondering if a lot of what will come into play this time will be his relationship with the Inquisitor, if they were friends, in the end, it may be easier to set him on a redemptive path. But you are right, though I have to wonder exactly how they're going to answer those questions. I'm hoping for a more show than tell, but the one person who might give us a clue is a statue, though Morrigan might have something, either from the well or from Mommy dearest, depending.

 

I'm thinking/hoping that Morrigan is definitely going to play a big role. I may be reading too much into it, but I still remember that look Solas gave her when he was walking out onto the balcony at the Winter Palace. Future arch-enemies?

[Sable Rhapsody]

I'm thinking/hoping that Morrigan is definitely going to play a big role. I may be reading too much into it, but I still remember that look Solas gave her when he was walking out onto the balcony at the Winter Palace. Future arch-enemies?

 

To be fair, everyone gives her that look.  No one likes Morrigan  Except my Amell.  They were besties.

[Cee]

I think he knows the benefits of thinking things through and of careful consideration. But this also conflicts with the other aspects of his personality. He's remorseful and wants to see if he can fix the damage. But he also seems to feel stuck on this path, and yet, to a friendly or loved Inquisitor, says things that indicate a lack of total certainty, and both a desire for the Inquisitor to try and stop him because he can't bring himself to, as well as the knowledge that they will try.

 

As to the criticism of his compassion and how some might see that as a form of hypocrisy. I don't think they actually conflict. Sure, he has a warped view of people, but, given his history and compassion, the side further indicated in Trespasser. Helping free slaves, give  them shelter, give them freedom and choice, this is a tempered form of that. He doesn't see them as 'people' or as having true value but in one sense, this can also be a thing people do in their heads to make the sense of guilt easier to bear. We know, and he acknowledges he didn't see them as people before he was proven wrong, and the fact he admits to being proven wrong is an indicator, IMO, that whatever compassion, helping refugees, and others along the way, was genuine, if tempered.

 

His "I am not a monster" line and talk of dying in comfort if they must die, it further warps this, but again, judging from his banter with Varric, he doesn't consider a diminished (in his opinion) life to be much of a life, but he still talks about say, the man on the island, with some consideration.

 

Solas is so wonderfully layered and complex. Parts are relatable. Parts inspire degrees of revulsion. Parts are very sad. Parts are of the type that make you want to whack him with the magic feather duster of sense until he gets it.

 

[Cee]

To be fair, everyone gives her that look.  No one likes Morrigan  Except my Amell.  They were besties.

 

Sera gave her a look over though.

[Cee]

As for Morrigan, I didn't like her either until later in DAI. After she has been humbled a bit, and grown up, especially with the scene with Flemeth and Kieran. When she was initially shown as returning in some form in DAI, I was disappointed.

[Ariella]

The reason I don't see him as being so short sighted is because he spends so much of his time commenting on how impressed he is with team member that can see past the end of their own noses. Why would he continually bring up these things if he himself was incapable of doing the same? He commends Cassandra for giving up power, for admitting she was wrong even at the risk of looking weak, he even admires (at the very least supports) Iron Bull for not sacrificing the Chargers.

Because sometimes we have trouble seeing these things in ourselves.

Solas does talk a great deal about the Wardens' end justifies the the means attitude. He tells Jana in Crestwood if you try and recruit her that there is a lot to admire in that commitment but there are dangers as well.

People can have wonderful blind spots about themselves, and I think in Solas' case, he's stuck in the idea that this is not how it's suppose to be. It keeps him from seeing the worth of the world that he created because it's not what he expected.

Of course, this softens a bit if you're friends with him, as I understand it, and that's why I think that might be a factor in his potential redemption in what comes next. Depending on how hard it might be to implement of course.

Did I mention I hate cliffhangers?

[Ariella]

I'm thinking/hoping that Morrigan is definitely going to play a big role. I may be reading too much into it, but I still remember that look Solas gave her when he was walking out onto the balcony at the Winter Palace. Future arch-enemies?

I think that might be a stock movement because Cullen gives her a similar look, and I attributed it at the time to the fact he might recognize her from DAO.