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It's a bit of mix of approval/disapproval about mages but my Lavellan does appreciate Viv's advice about human society which flatters Vivienne's ego so they get on mostly because of that.

 

My Lavellan's view of humans is ???????????

 

She still won at the Game though.  Mostly because she kept giving Leliana blackmail material.  In the background Josie is just *polite facepalm intensifies*
 


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I could use backup (again) in a Solas debate.  I'm outnumbered again.


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I could use backup (again) in a Solas debate.  I'm outnumbered again.

*puts on police hat* What seems to be the problem  :police:



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*puts on police hat* What seems to be the problem  :police:

 

In the Solas thread in General - Spoilers.  Getting a little bit swamped anti-Solas people.  Everyone is being polite, but it would be nice to have a voice or two on my side.

 

Also, people should check out the Create A Sentence thread while over there. It's great fun.


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Sorry, I bowed out of that thread awhile ago.   -_-

For those interested: http://forum.bioware...5-solas-dammit/



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In the Solas thread in General - Spoilers.  Getting a little bit swamped anti-Solas people.  Everyone is being polite, but it would be nice to have a voice or two on my side.

 

Also, people should check out the Create A Sentence thread while over there. It's great fun.

I'll pop in and say some sage wisdom to get stupid people to back off. 

 

*takes off police hat* *puts on wizard hat* ok let's go  :wizard:  (trying to channel my inner Dumbledore, the sagest sage of all) 



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Sorry, I bowed out of that thread awhile ago.   -_-

For those interested: http://forum.bioware...5-solas-dammit/

 

I've just played my Cole card and now I'm playing the In Hushed Whispers card with a Hawke Set Corypheus Free enchantment. 


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I'll pop in and say some sage wisdom to get stupid people to back off. 

 

*takes off police hat* *puts on wizard hat* ok let's go  :wizard:  (trying to channel my inner Dumbledore, the sagest sage of all) 

 

Like I said, it's all polite.  I just wouldn't mind having a few more pro-Solas voices around.
 



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One of my favorite survival games is Zombie Exodus, done by one guy.  It's probably the most responsive game I've played recently.  It's also only text and pictures.  That's why Zombie Exodus can actually alter its world, cast, and story in response to player action.  All it costs is time and text.  The guy writing it doesn't have to come up triple-A quality animations, art, and VA for each potential branch.  He doesn't have to pay people to create that stuff.  This is also why modders can create so much for the game, with apparently so little.

 

EDIT: Sorry if I come off a bit touchy about this stuff.  Absolutely nothing against indie game designers or modders; they do awesome work.  But I have a few friends who work for large studios, and sometimes I feel like all they get is "Why didn't you include everything we want?" They do work their butts off.  But budgeting is a different beast if you work at a studio like Sony or EA or Riot, and nine times out of ten, budget is the reason why something couldn't be done.

 

I realize that a lot of indies can do so much because they're working with so little, so changing something doesn't cost very much. (I went on a whole tangent about that before realizing it's unnecessary and cutting it.) But that's also precisely my point. Did we really need two voice actors for both genders? Did we really need the Hissing Wastes, the Forbidden Oasis, the Emerald Graves? Did BioWare really have to invest time and resources into luxuries like that, when they could've better refined what's already there? As you said, these games are so reactive because they have low graphics, or no voice acting. Some people qualify that as a negative, but it makes me ask - why have voice acting? Why have high-fidelity graphics? Would a stylized route work better? Would a voiceless protagonist work better? Are the things we obsess over, like graphics fidelity or open-world exploration, really needed to make an enjoyable experience for the player? Why constrain yourself like that, when you have so many resources and so much manpower, when you could make something incredible if you just stepped back and re-assessed what a game needs to be good?

 

Like - if we cut the Emerald Graves, that could've been another quest in the Mage-Templar plotline. If we cut even half of the Hinterlands, that could've been more companion interaction. If we cut the second voice actress, that could've been more lines for Lavellan, more expansion on her backstory, more depth in her romance with Solas (And probably the others, too.) It baffles me that people praise a decision like that - having voice acting at all severely limits your options to begin with, having four for the most chatty character in the game seems pointlessly excessive. And it makes me wonder - was that really needed? Wasn't there something better we could've done with the resources poured into that?

 

I know it's not the fault of people like Gaider or Weekes or - or random EA animator #219. I'm not trying to blame them, or undermine the work they do - I know they're only doing what their boss allows them to, and that they probably work themselves to the bone doing it. But it's so frustrating to see larger developers - developers who could be making this era's Planescape: Torment, or Baldur's Gate, or VtM:Bloodlines - waste on pointless gimmicks, while a single person can make a great game by themselves simply by cutting all the crap they don't need.

 

(And for the record, I don't bear much love for indies either, because that's a scene with it's own mess of problems. But at least they're trying something new, even if it's because their lack of resources forces them to.)



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@Sunnie: I see you lurking and giving likes.


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@Sunnie: I see you lurking and giving likes.

 

Hehe, just thought I'd pay the thread a little visit. 

 

I kinda miss you guys... :crying:


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Hehe, just thought I'd pay the thread a little visit. 

 

I kinda miss you guys... :crying:

 

*hugs*

 

You're never leaving again.

 

*refuses to let go*
 


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Hehe, just thought I'd pay the thread a little visit. 

 

I kinda miss you guys... :crying:

I miss your optimism and your art posts!


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I've just played my Cole card and now I'm playing the In Hushed Whispers card with a Hawke Set Corypheus Free enchantment. 

 

Quoting myself:

 

 

Now I'm thinking about how to build a Solas theme Magic deck.  I was think blue/green with a lot of wolf summoning cards and mental manipulation.  Any Magic players got advice?



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*hugs*

 

You're never leaving again.

 

*refuses to let go*
 

 

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I miss your optimism and your art posts!

 

Awww! <3

 

Well here are some artworks that came across my dash right now. XD

 

Not sure if you're familiar with coffeependulum's comics and I'm not sure if they were shared here but her comics are adorable! I love her Kidquisitor ones.

 

Solas' feelings on having a child obtaining the Anchor. :P

 

Kidquisitor has allergies. XD

 

Family.  :crying:

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And some other art.

 

Solas carries an unconcious Lavellan

 

Solas looking at Lavellan. This was after they came back from the waterfall according to the artist.

 

Wow, it's been a while since I've posted art. I need to get back in the groove and get used to it again. ^__^;


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Mini art break~

 

I think you guys will enjoy this:

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<3

 

Lavellan chasing Solas. (Road Runner/Wile E. Coyote style)  :lol:

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Edit: Oh! Sunny is back! <3 Yay!


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Yay! Thank you, Sunnie.  ^_^

 

Ooo double art post. Cheers, Garnet.

 

EDIT: ToP New image from Solas-an

http://solas-an.tumb...5/precious-face

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YAY Sunny!!  *hugs*

 

 

Even More Art :D

 

 

Trespasser Comic

http://lightana.devi...DAI-2-570189603

 

Beautiful Solas

http://shersann.devi...t/Sol-570171435

 

Solas The Gozerian :-P

http://vorpalraven.d...-Wolf-570128102

 

Fashionable Egg

http://phersae.devia...asser-570126369


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Mini art break~

 

I think you guys will enjoy this:

anpan-chan

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The best thing about this is there's no context I can give that scene that makes it any less werid.


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I took Vivienne and Solas with me everywhere, I really wonder what her reaction would've been when finding out Solas' identity. She only did the 'greatly disapprove' thing. I think Sera freaked out though.

Oooh! I did a thing a little while back on the companion reactions to finding out who Solas was!

*Goes to find it and that took longer than expected*

Yes I am quoting myself  :P

Solas Thread - The Blanketfort

photo-thumb-871936.jpg?_r=1409341292 Posted by NeverlandHunter on 29 September 2015 - 12:41 AM

GoldenGail3, on 28 Sept 2015 - 11:52 PM, said:snapback.png

You know, i've always wondered what Morrigan would've thought of Solas being another 'Elven god'.. Possibly not surprised, given that her own mother is Mythal, but i do wonder though..

Let's take a moment to imagine everyone's reaction to Solas being Fen'Harel.

 

Cullen: He's who?

Vivienne: It seems I was mistaken. I thought that fool Solas would end up possessed by the very demons he claims as friends. Now I know he already was one. His apparent power did nothing for his appearance though.

Varric: Huh, this should surprise me. The unassuming elven mage offers his knowledge to the powerful organization without anything in return... no, nevermind, I should of saw it a mile away. Now the best way to tell Daisy...

Cole: He didn't want to have to hide, but everything was different and they wouldn't understand. Everything has to change again, it's better if they never knew.

Cassandra: Andraste preserve us! We trusted him, I trusted him, and it was all a deception. I... I need some time alone.

The Iron Bull: Hmmm, magic and demons and gods and sh*t. *Grunts* Should of noticed there was something off about him. He was too used to battle, too used to dealing with people. Sh*t, I'm going to need to use the Qunari training exercise again. *Grumbles* Always has to be weird sh*t.

Dorian: You're trying to tell me that Solas, our Solas, is an ancient elven god? The same person who ran around dressed as a hobo setting his coattails on fire? I'm starting to understand the fall of the elven empire better.

Leliana: I did not think... I had not thought to look into his past better. He avoided speaking of it, I thought to respect his privacy. I should have... *sighs* it is done. I can only move forward and learn from this mistake. Maker guide us all in our time of need.

Sera: You mean Mister Thinks-Elfy-Things-Are-So-Much-Better is a demon elfy not-a-god? No. Just no. Everything can't be so crazy right? Thinks he's so great being creepy weird demon-pants and all that elfy stuff is so great. He can still feel an arrow yeah? Right, just an arrow in the face, and done. Nothing else, everything stops getting weirder and we all go back to being normal.

Josephine: This is all... almost too much to comprehend... and what will people think when they find out that he was a trusted companion? I never would have imagined... this isn't something people will soon forget.

Blackwall: I took a name that wasn't mine, I hid the truth from my comrades and was found out. He saw all of it and watched behind his own mask. 

Morrigan: Tis' unexpected indeed... that he was ever someone so competent. 

 

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I want make a cheesy comment about it being sunnier in the Blanketfort now... oops just did!

Welcome back!

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We've missed you  :crying: !

Although Garnet has been a pro with the art drops <3


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Hey, Sunny, welcome back! Here are some hearts and party wizards.

 

<3 <3 <3 <3  :wizard:  :wizard:  :wizard:  :wizard:


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Neverland's banter made me remember: How come spirit!Leliana had no idea who Solas was and did not think there was something off about him?


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Neverland's banter made me remember: How come spirit!Leliana had no idea who Solas was and did not think there was something off about him?

 

Because spirit!Leliana wasn't aware she was a spirit.


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Because spirit!Leliana wasn't aware she was a spirit.

 

:o Is that possible?