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That was just sad, especially after Feynite has been quite open about how anxious she is about sharing her writing. And for something that's quite normal as far as dividing chapters with long scenes, and not "manipulative" or however you want to call it, at all. *sighs* It's just sad that, when you have someone get even a little bit of exposure online, something like that is bound to happen at some point.

This is the unfortunate truth about the internet. People have lost their filters. They believe they can hide behind the persona of their online identity and anything goes. I am proud of Feynite and how she responded. I would have done the same in her place. One polite comment addressing the concerns and ignore any further hateful comments. Not because I am afraid to have a debate or argue on the internet, it simply is not worth my time and I know that in such situations my own filter comes off. "If a wise man argues with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs and there is no quiet"


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Even in novels, tv, etc, things end on cliff hangers. DAI ended on a cliff hanger. It's really strange to me someone would have a problem with this.

Yup, although I've seen this anti-cliffhanger sentiment before in more "professionnal" (read, people who sell their books) venues, as I have a few author friends. Cliffhangers at the end of books (when it's a series) or part (when a serial) seem to completely enrage some people. At the end of a chapter though? That's normal! Splitting a scene in two that way is totally normal.

 

I feel bad for feynite but I also feel a bit sad for the commenter. She seems more paranoid and delusional than intentionally malicious.

Yeah. It didn't look like it was a troll, but someone with some genuine problems who took it out on Feynite and the other commenters. That is sad :(



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Yup, although I've seen this anti-cliffhanger sentiment before in more "professionnal" (read, people who sell their books) venues, as I have a few author friends. Cliffhangers at the end of books (when it's a series) or part (when a serial) seem to completely enrage some people. At the end of a chapter though? That's normal! Splitting a scene in two that way is totally normal.

Yeah. It didn't look like it was a troll, but someone with some genuine problems who took it out on Feynite and the other commenters. That is sad :(


Thanks! That's useful to know. It was never something that enraged me personally, as long as the next installment is coming at some point.
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Yup, although I've seen this anti-cliffhanger sentiment before in more "professionnal" (read, people who sell their books) venues, as I have a few author friends. Cliffhangers at the end of books (when it's a series) or part (when a serial) seem to completely enrage some people. At the end of a chapter though? That's normal! Splitting a scene in two that way is totally normal.

 

I understand that cliffhangers are legitimately upsetting to people who have to wait extended periods of time for another piece of the series (like ASOIAF or even DA) and then pay for the next part - heck, I myself am not a fan of overuse of cliffhangers - but not only Feynite is prolific and updates her fanfiction in lightning-speed pace, she also doesn't ask anyone for anything for this source of free entertainment.

 

With that said, I agree that a short break could do her good - she does indeed seem to spread herself thin... Not in terms of quality of her work dropping, but judging from the sheer amount of stuff she writes, prompts she fills and comments she answers, it likely must have had an impact on her life. A time to catch her breath would likely help her find some sort of equilibrium.


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Yup, although I've seen this anti-cliffhanger sentiment before in more "professionnal" (read, people who sell their books) venues, as I have a few author friends. Cliffhangers at the end of books (when it's a series) or part (when a serial) seem to completely enrage some people. At the end of a chapter though? That's normal! Splitting a scene in two that way is totally normal.

Well she would hate my story. If I have an idea that I can't wrap up within 4-5K words I break it in to two parts and it's often a cliffhanger. Leaving a story or a movie in a cliffhanger does frustrate me, but enrage me? It would take quite a bit to do that with a movie/novel ending.


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Wow, interesting blog. I salute what they're doing. And some of those pics are hilarious :)

 

This post? http://bikiniarmorba...so-i-thought-id

 

I don't think I would agree about Jack's outfit not being sexualised though. I know it 'fits' her personality, but her personality could be (and is) expressed in many ways that don't require a strappy boob harness.

 

Say what you like, boobs are always really distracting when they're *that* uncovered, even if you're not into women. I'm not attracted to Morrigan, but there are still times when I hear her talking away and I just find myself thinking, 'boobs.' :P I'm reasonably sure the concept designers are not so jaded that they're unaware of the effect those things have on the attention. It's not used as an afterthought. Whether the character's personality fits is one question. Another is how often they're using sex to secure interest in a female character before other things. Like it's a baseline requirement.

 

That's the one, thanks.

 

One of their points was the that boob harness was actually more sexualised that having a bare chest (which would've worked for the character).  I thought it was interesting that they pointed out her ME3 outfit is more sexualised than her ME2 outfit.

 

I usually use her alt armour pack from the DLC.  I worry about her being cold down in the cargo hold.


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Ugh guys, this week has been terrible for me and to top it off I had an especially horrible day today... Is it okay if I ask for a hug or two? Or kittens and puppies? I just feel so drained and sad right now, like I've failed myself.  :crying:

 

And apparently this is my 100'th post... I wish it could have been happier...  :(

 

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http://veeahknee.tum...st/132145536541



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Ugh guys, this week has been terrible for me and to top it off I had an especially horrible day today... Is it okay if I ask for a hug or two? Or kittens and puppies? I just feel so drained and sad right now, like I've failed myself. :crying:

And apparently this is my 100'th post... I wish it could have been happier... :(

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http://veeahknee.tum...st/132145536541


Hey bunny, have many many hugs! A ton of them! And a bottle of wine and a jar of nutella. <3 <3 <3

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Ugh guys, this week has been terrible for me and to top it off I had an especially horrible day today... Is it okay if I ask for a hug or two? Or kittens and puppies? I just feel so drained and sad right now, like I've failed myself.  :crying:

 

And apparently this is my 100'th post... I wish it could have been happier...  :(

 

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http://veeahknee.tum...st/132145536541

I don't have a handy gif to offer you, but have all the internet hugs you need *hugs*.



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Ugh guys, this week has been terrible for me and to top it off I had an especially horrible day today... Is it okay if I ask for a hug or two? Or kittens and puppies? I just feel so drained and sad right now, like I've failed myself.  :crying:

 

And apparently this is my 100'th post... I wish it could have been happier...  :(

 

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http://veeahknee.tum...st/132145536541

Awe! Have a hug from me. <3 Needs to find some cute animal gifs and pics. 

Ah here is one I posted a long time ago to my Facebook account

 

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Ugh guys, this week has been terrible for me and to top it off I had an especially horrible day today... Is it okay if I ask for a hug or two? Or kittens and puppies? I just feel so drained and sad right now, like I've failed myself.  :crying:

 

And apparently this is my 100'th post... I wish it could have been happier...  :(

 

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http://veeahknee.tum...st/132145536541

 

Aww! *hugs* <3

 

Here are some cute puppies.

 

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Ugh guys, this week has been terrible for me and to top it off I had an especially horrible day today... Is it okay if I ask for a hug or two? Or kittens and puppies? I just feel so drained and sad right now, like I've failed myself.  :crying:

 

And apparently this is my 100'th post... I wish it could have been happier...  :(

 

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http://veeahknee.tum...st/132145536541

 

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I want to see this now.

 

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http://local-tavern-...f-the-night-and


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That was just sad, especially after Feynite has been quite open about how anxious she is about sharing her writing. And for something that's quite normal as far as dividing chapters with long scenes, and not "manipulative" or however you want to call it, at all. *sighs* It's just sad that, when you have someone get even a little bit of exposure online, something like that is bound to happen at some point.

 

I don't care enough about LG to get involved in this drama, but someone should probably tell them that writers are supposed to be manipulative. Like, that's the point. Manipulating the reader into caring and having emotions. All art's supposed to make you fee something, and trying to direct someone's emotions is an inherently manipulative act. 

 

Yup, although I've seen this anti-cliffhanger sentiment before in more "professionnal" (read, people who sell their books) venues, as I have a few author friends. Cliffhangers at the end of books (when it's a series) or part (when a serial) seem to completely enrage some people. At the end of a chapter though? That's normal! Splitting a scene in two that way is totally normal.

 

Yeah. It didn't look like it was a troll, but someone with some genuine problems who took it out on Feynite and the other commenters. That is sad :(

 

Alex Hirsch of Gravity Falls fame put it best - cliffhangers are okay if they aren't needed. If you can remove the cliffhanger, and still have an interesting, satisfying story, then go ahead. If not, then you're just cheating the reader out of a resolution.


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Another little art post.

 

Lovely animation version of this artwork of Solas and Lavellan.

 

Solas and Lavellan in a tender moment. (NSFW-ish for nudity.)

 

Kidquisitor comic.  ^_^ Based on a scene from this fic that someone did which is based on the artist's Kidquisitor comics (Confused yet? xD)

 

Late inktober catch up of Solas.


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That's the one, thanks.

 

One of their points was the that boob harness was actually more sexualised that having a bare chest (which would've worked for the character).  I thought it was interesting that they pointed out her ME3 outfit is more sexualised than her ME2 outfit.

 

I usually use her alt armour pack from the DLC.  I worry about her being cold down in the cargo hold.

 

Yeah, I can see the point they're making. I don't know that there's a big difference for me between the two, but then again I'm probably not the target audience. I will say that when it comes to DAI guys, I prefer Dorian's bare shoulder to Bull's shirtlessness. :P

 

Ha! I also worry about Morrigan being cold. I let her keep her outfit, but always give her all those Iced Bands I keep finding.



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Ugh guys, this week has been terrible for me and to top it off I had an especially horrible day today... Is it okay if I ask for a hug or two? Or kittens and puppies? I just feel so drained and sad right now, like I've failed myself.  :crying:

 

And apparently this is my 100'th post... I wish it could have been happier...  :(

 

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http://veeahknee.tum...st/132145536541

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#141719
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Also, when you're trying to work and this:

Spoiler

 

I think you need to offer tribute or something.


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Ugh guys, this week has been terrible for me and to top it off I had an especially horrible day today... Is it okay if I ask for a hug or two? Or kittens and puppies? I just feel so drained and sad right now, like I've failed myself.  :crying:

 

And apparently this is my 100'th post... I wish it could have been happier...  :(

 

tumblr_nwzfdipfrw1u0a7sro1_500.png

 

http://veeahknee.tum...st/132145536541

Kittens.jpg

 

Sorry you're having a rotten time. *group hugs*



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Ugh guys, this week has been terrible for me and to top it off I had an especially horrible day today... Is it okay if I ask for a hug or two? Or kittens and puppies? I just feel so drained and sad right now, like I've failed myself.  :crying:

 

 

I know what that feels like.

 

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*Snip*

 

Soooo adorable! 

 

Hey bunny, have many many hugs! A ton of them! And a bottle of wine and a jar of nutella.  <3  <3  <3

 

Aw, many thanks! Wine I do have, but sadly no nutella... fortunately we Swedes have a brand of chocolate called Marabou that is equally as good! 

 

I don't have a handy gif to offer you, but have all the internet hugs you need *hugs*.

 

Hugs are awesome, thank you! 

 

Awe! Have a hug from me.  <3 Needs to find some cute animal gifs and pics. 

Ah here is one I posted a long time ago to my Facebook account

 

*snip*

 

That is just too cute! Best use of doll house ever!

 

Aww! *hugs*  <3

 

Here are some cute puppies.

 

*snip*

 

Thank you! And those little puppies are sooo fluffy! 

 

 

*snip*

 

Cuteness overload! And I twitch that way in my sleep as well! 

 

*snip*

 

Bunny approves of this picture! Thank you So much! 

 

*snip*

 

Sorry you're having a rotten time. *group hugs*

 

Oh, how I love kittens! Thank you so much! 

 

I wish I could convey how much you all have brightened my day! You made me smile, and that has been rare this week! The forum doesn't allow nearly as many  <3  <3  <3  as I would like to give to you all! The Blanket Fort rules! *Cuddles down deep*

 

 

Long post, but you all deserved replies!  :kissing:


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#141723
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I know what that feels like.

 

*snip*

 

I thought I got you all in my previous post, but I missed you! Thank you so much for making me feel better about myself!  <3



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Jack was bisexual.  She just wasn't romanceable by women.

 

I know she mentions previous time with at least one woman and makes comments but then she tells you she's not into women like that. Either way, I know several women who would've romanced her if possible.

 

*waves*

 

Right. How did I manage to forget? <3

 

Solavellan hell is all Cassandra's doing.



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Wow, interesting blog. I salute what they're doing. And some of those pics are hilarious :)

 

This post? http://bikiniarmorba...so-i-thought-id

 

I don't think I would agree about Jack's outfit not being sexualised though. I know it 'fits' her personality, but her personality could be (and is) expressed in many ways that don't require a strappy boob harness.

 

Say what you like, boobs are always really distracting when they're *that* uncovered, even if you're not into women. I'm not attracted to Morrigan, but there are still times when I hear her talking away and I just find myself thinking, 'boobs.' :P I'm reasonably sure the concept designers are not so jaded that they're unaware of the effect those things have on the attention. It's not used as an afterthought. Whether the character's personality fits is one question. Another is how often they're using sex to secure interest in a female character before other things. Like it's a baseline requirement.

 

 

 

That's the one, thanks.

 

One of their points was the that boob harness was actually more sexualised that having a bare chest (which would've worked for the character).  I thought it was interesting that they pointed out her ME3 outfit is more sexualised than her ME2 outfit.

 

I usually use her alt armour pack from the DLC.  I worry about her being cold down in the cargo hold.

 

 

Right, my issue was , they did eventually give Jack a reason in game for wearing the strap. She was trying to strap down a bit because she was on a prison ship. And thus it waves off the strap and why she looks like she does in ME3 - no more flimsy binding strap so now she's put her boobs on display. I mean, I have no issue with real people who dress however they want, but when it comes to media, giving characters reasons just to justify even somewhat questionable design decisions has the effect of making a lot of people roll their eyes.

 

Just look at the reveal for why Quiet in Metal Gear Solid V is dressed in a bikini and ripped stockings. If the design team had just said "we wanted to have her dressed like this" instead of coming up with what might be the flimsiest excuse in recent memory, the honesty would've at least been more acceptable.