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[Tess]

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I've started playing TS3 again (I prefer TS2 but there's stuff in TS3 I like) and I just splashed out on getting all the EPs but still lack the Stuff packs AND there's so much cool stuff on the Store which I want but I really can't buy any more from there.  I'm NOT getting TS4 though.  Screw that.  I've spent enough on TS2 and TS3 (although I did get the free TS2UE)

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I have TS4 and frankly the base game is rather lacking. I didn't spend much on the repvious games, luckily, so I allowed myself TS4. But so far it's not that great. Maybe with more stuff it will get better, but I got a bit bitter seeing how they shave the base game into bare minimum and than let you pay outrageous sums for "expac" which adds a trait and something small, and sometimes a map. Sometimes not even. Which is also a reason why I hesitated on DA so much before caving in.

[Illyria]

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I have TS4 and frankly the base game is rather lacking. I didn't spend much on the repvious games, luckily, so I allowed myself TS4. But so far it's not that great. Maybe with more stuff it will get better, but I got a bit bitter seeing how they shave the base game into bare minimum and than let you pay outrageous sums for "expac" which adds a trait and something small, and sometimes a map. Sometimes not even. Which is also a reason why I hesitated on DA so much before caving in.

 

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The worst thing about getting TS3 is just how much it will cost to get all the stuff I want from the Store.

Oh, and Late Night and Showtime? Total ripoff. Between them you get what you got in ONE TS2 pack.

[S.W.]

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WHY IS EVERYTHING SIMS RELATED SO FREAKING EXPENSIVE?

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I bought pretty much all of my TS2 expansion packs second hand from CEX a couple of years after they came out, with saved-up pocket money my parents gave me for doing voluntary work as a teenager. Too expensive to buy at full price. I think I've given more money to Bioware over the past six months than I have to any game company EVER and that's through buying almost every main game at a discount.

This is also the reason I never got much into TS3. I spent so much money building up my sims game to this multi-faceted world with all kinds of cool features and when I bought the TS3 base game it felt so bare in comparison. Not even a hot tub, like seriously, why.

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[dawnstone]

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I have TS4 and frankly the base game is rather lacking. I didn't spend much on the repvious games, luckily, so I allowed myself TS4. But so far it's not that great. Maybe with more stuff it will get better, but I got a bit bitter seeing how they shave the base game into bare minimum and than let you pay outrageous sums for "expac" which adds a trait and something small, and sometimes a map. Sometimes not even. Which is also a reason why I hesitated on DA so much before caving in.

This is why I was laughing my ass off when people were complaining that they had to pay 15 bucks for each DA DLC as it came out. If you've played the Sims you know how absurd EA can get when it comes to overpriced, gouging expansions. I felt like I got a lot of bang for my buck, comparatively, from the three main DA DLCs (didn't bother with the skin packs).

[Illyria]

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I bought pretty much all of my TS2 expansion packs second hand from CEX a couple of years after they came out, with saved-up pocket money my parents gave me for doing voluntary work as a teenager. Too expensive to buy at full price. I think I've given more money to Bioware over the past six months than I have to any game company EVER and that's through buying almost every main game at a discount.

This is also the reason I never got much into TS3. I spent so much money building up my sims game to this multi-faceted world with all kinds of cool features and when I bought the TS3 base game it felt so bare in comparison. Not even a hot tub, like seriously, why.

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Yeah. To get any interesting features in TS3 you need to get nearly all the EPs.

AND some of the more interesting features are kept to the Store only. Some are locked to worlds, so you need to splash out £20+ just to get that.

[Tess]

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The worst thing about getting TS3 is just how much it will cost to get all the stuff I want from the Store.

Oh, and Late Night and Showtime? Total ripoff. Between them you get what you got in ONE TS2 pack.

 

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Don't get me wrong... I played Sims since the very first game. I just.... was not that willing to pay and went through the more rocky roads to acquire those. The older I am, the lazier I get and tend to actually pay for the comfort and safety. And even before, I'd buy a game if I liked it after trying it out cracked... I just really disliked the idea of buying something I couldn't try before that. I know there are demos, but they were rarely available in my country. And often would last only few minutes or not let you experience much.

Now I tried the DA demo and got enchanted, so I bought it when there was discount. And then I bought tDA2 and DA:O, coz that's how awesome it was.

Sims, on the other hand, fall further and further from my mark.

 

 

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[Illyria]

This is why I was laughing my ass off when people were complaining that they had to pay 15 bucks for each DA DLC as it came out. If you've played the Sims you know how absurd EA can get when it comes to overpriced, gouging expansions. I felt like I got a lot of bang for my buck, comparatively, from the three main DA DLCs (didn't bother with the skin packs).

 

QFT (thanks SW for giving me that bit of internet lingo).

 

My reaction to Trespasser was '£15 for the epilogue?  And that meant BW didn't need to rush it for the main game?  Awesome.'

 

But then I'm so used to the way EA treats the sims customers.

 

I have a feeling I'm going to get a warning for this.

[Tess]

QFT (thanks SW for giving me that bit of internet lingo).

 

My reaction to Trespasser was '£15 for the epilogue?  And that meant BW didn't need to rush it for the main game?  Awesome.'

 

But then I'm so used to the way EA treats the sims customers.

 

I have a feeling I'm going to get a warning for this.

Aw, are you saying I have a point coming for admitting I used to play in a very underground-y way? Darn.

 

But hey. DA is great. 

[Illyria]

Aw, are you saying I have a point coming for admitting I used to play in a very underground-y way? Darn.

 

But hey. DA is great. 

 

No, I mean for what I said in my post.

[S.W.]

if the mods warn you for that, they're being petty. they can also fight me too.

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Yeah. To get any interesting features in TS3 you need to get nearly all the EPs.

AND some of the more interesting features are kept to the Store only. Some are locked to worlds, so you need to splash out £20+ just to get that.

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Not to mention that the store & the exchange is completely inaccessible if you've bought your copy of TS3 second hand (as I did). You're allowed to sell your game on once, but the code you use to access your TS3 online account is one-use only. Penalises second hand buyers massively. Probably a blessing in disguise though, as I would have forked out a bunch of stuff from the store if I'd been allowed to.

[midnight tea]

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I've started playing TS3 again (I prefer TS2 but there's stuff in TS3 I like) and I just splashed out on getting all the EPs but still lack the Stuff packs AND there's so much cool stuff on the Store which I want but I really can't buy any more from there.  I'm NOT getting TS4 though.  Screw that.  I've spent enough on TS2 and TS3 (although I did get the free TS2UE)

 

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It's one of reasons I stopped playing Sims 3 and never bought 4 - it's a money-sink. At one point it was either continuing to pay for expansions and store stuff or spending it on other games. Can't say I'm unhappy that I switched from Sims to stuff like Dragon Age, even if I still sometimes get an itch to re-install it all again, create a few Sims to torture; control every aspect of their measly existence; play.

[Cee]

Seems it's crap weather across the whole of the UK at the moment. I'd say 'it should get better soon' but who am I kidding?

Sorry about the bad weather, but this made me laugh.

 

We're in an okay pattern right now. Humid, foggy, bit of rain yesterday, but at least it isn't cold yet.

 

 

It's weird weather where I am right now. It's super foggy and humid... and also warm. It's November and I live in the Northeastern U.S.! It was freezing a few weeks ago... I am annoyed. I like nice systematic weather. Fall is chilly, winter cold, spring warm, and summer hot. None of this weird warm fall weather after it's already turned cold but then decided it changed its mind and wants to be warm again -.-

 

Example.   Give me all the humid and warm fall days possible because the miserable cold is coming and I don't want extended miserable cold. It's bad enough it's dark at 4:45pm already.
 

 

 

So....I was perfectly fine for a few months..no Solas dreams. I've been busy playing other games and it's been good, but now that my new computer will be here soon and I'll be able to play Inquisition again...I had a dream last night.  I remember nothing except running around in Haven. My computer needs to get here NOW!!!

 

When is your computer scheduled to arrive?

 

I had a DA-related dream last night that I don't quite remember except that at one point, someone ran Josephine through with a sword and I cannot remember why, but it was super intense and sad.
 

 

[midnight tea]

Sorry about the bad weather, but this made me laugh.

 

I must be in Solas'y mood now, because I've read "bad weather" as "BALD weather"...

[Cee]

For the longest time, I really disliked Viv. Then after Tresspasser, she slowly began to grow on me. Now I find her a very intriguing character, not without flaws, but with many many positive sides I really didn't appreciate at first. I admire her toughness and ambition, how she does not give a damn and perseveres towards her goals. She's unapologetic and she plays the Game, but she's strangely honest about it. Plus, her snark is delicious. 

 

She's exactly the type of person I can't stand. The last straw was doing her quest, getting her what she asked for, and then having her just blatantly invite people in order to use you in front of them for her own selfish social climbing. I wanted an option to refuse to entertain her guests and call her out on her self-centered power play.

 

I didn't recruit her after the first time. I will when I make my human mage but for now I may just keep on leaving her invitation unanswered.

[Cee]

I must be in Solas'y mood now, because I've read "bad weather" as "BALD weather"...

 

This is the top result when you image search bald weather.

 

 

Why do I suddenly want Solas in a blue rain coat and ridiculous pose?

[Aneira]

I had a funny and slightly weird dream the other night. I was an assistant of a therapist and one day she came to me and said, that something strange was going on. She had so many new patients lately and all of those told her the same story: They met this guy, who they really liked, but he played hard to get. Eventually they would get into a relationship with him and everything seemed fine. Until he takes them out an a really fancy date, where he breaks up with them. My boss was very concerned about that and wanted my opinion on the matter and asked if I thought she should warn the authorities about this guy who obviously made it a habit to trick women into relationships just to break their hearts. We decided she should give the police a hint about that and sadly the dream changed to something else then.

 

I have nooooo idea, where this came from. Nope. Not at all. Who could that strange guy be? I have never heard of such a story.

 

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It's Solas.

 

 

 

I seem to be jinxed or something; everytime I want to play DAI for a while something happens and I have to stop. Urgh.

[S.W.]

She's exactly the type of person I can't stand. The last straw was doing her quest, getting her what she asked for, and then having her just blatantly invite people in order to use you in front of them for her own selfish social climbing. I wanted an option to refuse to entertain her guests and call her out on her self-centered power play.
 
I didn't recruit her after the first time. I will when I make my human mage but for now I may just keep on leaving her invitation unanswered.

See, my interpretation of that scene is that this is really the only way Vivienne knows how to show her appreciation of you. It may seem like a self-centered gesture but I think she's showing how much you mean to her by letting you meet people who are quite dear through association - her duke's old family - and letting you know 'you're worth knowing'.

She went to the circle at a young age, so has very few familial ties to speak of, eventually moving into a courtly setting, and believes that status and appearances genuinely matter, probably more so than most things, and affect your living conditions the most - which they do in the circle, given the amount of titles you can earn over a lifetime, and likely the freedoms that come with it. That assumption probably hasn't been challenged by the court either.

I think Vivienne genuinely cares, it's just her ways of showing that she cares can also be read as shallow, empty gestures - which is quite clever when you think on it. You have to know Vivienne well to truly understand the difference.

Edit: adding to this a post I found burrowing through vivienne positive hastag:

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>She’s just as adamant that the right outfit will make people respect you regardless of your race–when most people in the Orlesian Court find an elf, qunari, or dwarf in formal dress laughable at best.

> Iron Bull basically adopts her as a mother figure, and she tuts over him like one.

> She accepts Dalish mage training as just as valid as Circle training.

> She consults both Solas and Dorian on magical matters, even though she doesn’t get along with either.

> For all her ambition, she joins the Inquisition at the very beginning, when doing so is more likely to make her a social pariah than gain her any favors.

> Her biggest problem with dissolving the Circle is that there is no viable alternative in place to protect and teach mages.

> She climbs mountains and trudges through bogs in high heels and never complains once.


^ The above, of course, is someone else's opinion, not mine. I'm still a circle abolitionist, don't get me wrong. I think she's internalised a lot of bad opinions about the circle as a result of doing quite so well out of it - but for every Vivienne, who is strong and clever enough to navigate the circle's hierarchy, there are those who simply can't, who struggle with being so canny, who have no such access to freedoms. However I genuinely think her heart is in the right place, that her opinions on the circle are quite complex and come from a desire to protect mages and push for a safe space for their study, and I don't think ambition is inherently an awful thing - one can have ambitions to do good, to help people, to cause social change.

I don't think the game gave her enough screen time and made her plot relevant enough - I think had the templar-mage war been extended (as it should have been), then her position on the team could have been more interesting. They didn't do justice to a lot of her complexities and nuances. Also, I wish they'd considered some character development - they expand and explore her character, but Vivienne on the whole is very static, which is a shame.

[drosophila]

See, my interpretation of that scene is that this is really the only way Vivienne knows how to show her appreciation of you. It may seem like a self-centered gesture but I think she's showing how much you mean to her by letting you meet people who are quite dear through association - her duke's old family - and letting you know 'you're worth knowing'.

She went to the circle at a young age, so has very few familial ties to speak of, eventually moving into a courtly setting, and believes that status and appearances genuinely matter, probably more so than most things, and affect your living conditions the most - which they do in the circle, given the amount of titles you can earn over a lifetime, and likely the freedoms that come with it. That assumption probably hasn't been challenged by the court either.

I think Vivienne genuinely cares, it's just her ways of showing that she cares can also be read as shallow, empty gestures - which is quite clever when you think on it. You have to know Vivienne well to truly understand the difference.

In addition to the things I posted earlier: Vivienne strikes me as the type of person who gets sh*t done effectively. If your interests align with hers, she's absolutely someone you want in your inquisition. She won't hesitate and she won't angst. And she's pretty open about the way she is and what truly matters to her.

[NeverlandHunter]

 

Sorry about the bad weather, but this made me laugh.

 

We're in an okay pattern right now. Humid, foggy, bit of rain yesterday, but at least it isn't cold yet.

 

 

 

Example.    Give me all the humid and warm fall days possible because the miserable cold is coming and I don't want extended miserable cold. It's bad enough it's dark at 4:45pm already. 
 

 

 

 

When is your computer scheduled to arrive?

 

I had a DA-related dream last night that I don't quite remember except that at one point, someone ran Josephine through with a sword and I cannot remember why, but it was super intense and sad. 
 

I think we live relatively close to each other Cee! We might have discussed this before. Were you the person talking with me about Amish however many moons ago? Was it Ohio?

 

She's exactly the type of person I can't stand. The last straw was doing her quest, getting her what she asked for, and then having her just blatantly invite people in order to use you in front of them for her own selfish social climbing. I wanted an option to refuse to entertain her guests and call her out on her self-centered power play.

 

I didn't recruit her after the first time. I will when I make my human mage but for now I may just keep on leaving her invitation unanswered.

I like Vivienne as a character, but I would strongly dislike someone like her in real life. I admire her cunning and her ability to maneuver, but in real life that blatant disregard for individuals would really make me angry.

See, my interpretation of that scene is that this is really the only way Vivienne knows how to show her appreciation of you. It may seem like a self-centered gesture but I think she's showing how much you mean to her by letting you meet people who are quite dear through association - her duke's old family - and letting you know 'you're worth knowing'.

She went to the circle at a young age, so has very few familial ties to speak of, eventually moving into a courtly setting, and believes that status and appearances genuinely matter, probably more so than most things, and affect your living conditions the most - which they do in the circle, given the amount of titles you can earn over a lifetime, and likely the freedoms that come with it. That assumption probably hasn't been challenged by the court either.

I think Vivienne genuinely cares, it's just her ways of showing that she cares can also be read as shallow, empty gestures - which is quite clever when you think on it. You have to know Vivienne well to truly understand the difference.

Edit: adding to this a post I found burrowing through vivienne positive hastag:

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>She’s just as adamant that the right outfit will make people respect you regardless of your race–when most people in the Orlesian Court find an elf, qunari, or dwarf in formal dress laughable at best.

> Iron Bull basically adopts her as a mother figure, and she tuts over him like one.

> She accepts Dalish mage training as just as valid as Circle training.

> She consults both Solas and Dorian on magical matters, even though she doesn’t get along with either.

> For all her ambition, she joins the Inquisition at the very beginning, when doing so is more likely to make her a social pariah than gain her any favors.

> Her biggest problem with dissolving the Circle is that there is no viable alternative in place to protect and teach mages.

> She climbs mountains and trudges through bogs in high heels and never complains once.


^ The above, of course, is someone else's opinion, not mine. I'm still a circle abolitionist, don't get me wrong. I think she's internalised a lot of bad opinions about the circle as a result of doing quite so well out of it - but for every Vivienne, who is strong and clever enough to navigate the circle's hierarchy, there are those who simply can't, who struggle with being so canny, who have no such access to freedoms. However I genuinely think her heart is in the right place, that her opinions on the circle are quite complex and come from a desire to protect mages and push for a safe space for their study, and I don't think ambition is inherently an awful thing - one can have ambitions to do good, to help people, to cause massive social thing.

I don't think the game gave her enough screen time and made her plot relevant enough - I think had the templar-mage war been extended (as it should have been), then her position on the team could have been more interesting. They didn't do justice to a lot of her complexities and nuances. Also, I wish they'd considered some character development - they expand and explore her character, but Vivienne on the whole is very static, which is a shame.

Well said Shallow waters

[midnight tea]

In addition to the things I posted earlier: Vivienne strikes me as the type of person who gets sh*t done effectively. If your interests align with hers, she's absolutely someone you want in your inquisition. She won't hesitate and she won't angst. And she's pretty open about the way she is and what truly matters to her.

 

Yeah, for all her scheming, she is one of most straightforward and honest people in the entire inner circle Even straightforward Sera or Cass or Varric have their secrets (Cole is sort of in a category of its own), not to mention Blackwall, IB or Solas.

 

It's kind of the same with Orlesians and their culture - someone made a point here or there, that while they may use masks and participate in the Game, it's honest in a way that people know exactly what they're dealing with. In both cases it's a type of peculiar honesty and openness that I can't make myself not to appreciate. In fact, I think I kind of adore it, with the spades of hilarious irony and subtexts it brings to the table.

[Tess]

Internet and it's weird corners.

 

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http://daelves.tumblr.com/page/4

[Cee]

I think we live relatively close to each other Cee!

 

I like Vivienne as a character, but I would strongly dislike someone like her in real life. I admire her cunning and her ability to maneuver, but in real life that blatant disregard for individuals would really make me angry.

 

 

 

Wasn't me, I'm in NY.

 

As for Vivienne, the snark is amusing and she was strong enough to make a life for herself, but at the same time, her terrible personality and social climbing power plays are such a huge turn off. She would get on my nerves so badly, and so soon. If there's one thing I instantly dislike, it's snobbery.

 

I've never not recruited a companion before. Never. She was the first one.

[Cee]

Internet and it's weird corners.

 

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http://daelves.tumblr.com/page/4

 

 

No, no, you need the full context for that first set.

 

http://fuckyeahvarri...ital-use-of-our

http://fuckyeahvarri...requested-bonus

[NeverlandHunter]

Wasn't me, I'm in NY.

 

As for Vivienne, the snark is amusing and she was strong enough to make a life for herself, but at the same time, her terrible personality and social climbing power plays are such a huge turn off. She would get on my nerves so badly, and so soon. If there's one thing I really dislike, it's snobbery.

 

I've never not recruited a companion before. Never. She was the first one.

Oops, well same region   I'm Pennsylvanian!

 

That is telling if you chose to just not recruit her. She must have really gotten under your skin! What do you think of moderately snobby characters like Dorian or even Sera (although she'd deny it!) or more so snobby characters like Morrigan?

[Ellawynn]

On the subject of Lavellot - I... wouldn't put much stock in anything she has to say on Solas or the Solasmance. After bumping into her rants several times over the past few months, she projects a lot onto the situation and insists that her own uncharitable view of Solas is the only correct one. She even manages to take his calm, accepting reaction to keeping the vallaslin, and turn it into a spineless backpedaling on his part. She really doesn't want to see much good in him, so of course her posts won't take it into consideration.

 

Also she tried to criticize the Solavellan fandom for "having too many white Lavellans" and that pretty much turned me off of anything she has to say. Like, seriously? Policing how people customize their own playable characters? Ugh.