What? Really? Well that just makes me not want to share my Lavellan or Trevelyan.
I share mine anyway. People are going to judge you no matter what you do.
What? Really? Well that just makes me not want to share my Lavellan or Trevelyan.
I share mine anyway. People are going to judge you no matter what you do.
I share mine anyway. People are going to judge you no matter what you do.
Even just sharing here, we're like, the lowest pressure group on the internet.
I just read all of this discussion about light skinned Lavellan and POC (person of color I suppose?) and I want to ask an earnest question (and hope I'm not offending anybody), how does a "POC" people feel about the term POC?
Over here we have "Ashkenazim" & "Mizrahim", I'm half-half and my boyfriend is Mizrahi.
Ashkenazim are usually white, Mizrahim usually have darker skin tone and suffer from racism - are thought to be less educated than Ashkenazim and thought to be more violent.
I'm white as paper despite having Mizrahi origin and my boyfriend looks like an average Arab. I asked him what he think about being called POC and he dislikes it and said the term is just as bad as the term "colorful" and that he would rather be called Mizrahi.
I just read all of this discussion about light skinned Lavellan and POC (person of color I suppose?) and I want to ask an earnest question (and hope I'm not offending anybody), how does a "POC" people feel about the term POC?
Over here we have "Ashkenazim" & "Mizrahim", I'm half-half and my boyfriend is Mizrahi.
Ashkenazim are usually white, Mizrahim usually have darker skin tone and suffer from racism - are thought to be less educated than Ashkenazim and thought to be more violent.
I'm white as paper despite having Mizrahi origin and my boyfriend looks like an average Arab. I asked him what he think about being called POC and he dislikes it and said the term is just as bad as the term "colorful" and that he would rather be called Mizrahi.
The phrase always struck me as very odd, though I suppose it's because American racism is different from other types? I live in what probably the most multicultural town in New Zealand (whch despite being thought of as white, apparently, is a mix of every possible nationality) and nobody would use the term POC here. Probably because there is so much of every possible skin colour that to call someone a person of colour would be bizarre. Not that there are no race issues, there definitely are, but skin colour has nothing to do with it. I'm half Brazilian and I look it too, in a town full of pacific islanders and Fijian Indians though, calling out my skin colour has no meaning.
A lot of these things are cultural and vary a lot between regions too. Most people on the planet aren't white. But that doesn't mean that colorism or biases never happen within/among other groups. I have a friend from Asia who realized after immigrating just how much bias there was in her home country toward certain groups of people. And they're all Asian, clearly. I know that my grandprents advised their daughters to not date black men. Latin America is so packed with colorism in probably every region. In any case, preferences come into play too. And as I said in my initial post, some people will try to deny others their identities anyway.
The phrase always struck me as very odd, though I suppose it's because American racism is different from other types? I live in what probably the most multicultural town in New Zealand (whch despite being thought of as white, apparently, is a mix of every possible nationality) and nobody would use the term POC here. Probably because there is so much of every possible skin colour that to call someone a person of colour would be bizarre. Not that there are no race issues, there definitely are, but skin colour has nothing to do with it. I'm half Brazilian and I look it too, in a town full of pacific islanders and Fijian Indians though, calling out my skin colour has no meaning.
To confuse it more, the term isn't even just based on skin color, though for some it is. Hence the nobody can really make up their minds and people will deny others and just jumble of things it can become. it's not really a settled thing even here in the US.
Had to unfollow someone recently because of consistent rants calling out lighter-skinned Latinos as just white people and saying we basically don't count and shouldn't have our opinions considered on certain matters. Personally, it's not like I'm unaware that my experience in life is going to be different than my very dark-skinned Cuban friend, but the insistence and denial were too much. If there's one thing to respect, it's people's identities.
But as with anything else, it's good to know where your boundaries and privileges are and to learn how to put your pride away and truly listen to others sometimes.
To be on topic...something Solas surely forgot. ![]()
I live in what probably the most multicultural town in New Zealand (whch despite being thought of as white, apparently, is a mix of every possible nationality) and nobody would use the term POC here.
Auckland? Totally out of curiosity for my own country
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....I'm just going to chime in with a few cents.....but.......
I have always thought the whole POC term was stupid. Like, I'm sorry, everyone is a color. Unless there is someone out there who is legit invisible.
And they are all pretty, so wtf humanity......really......
Anyway. back to the enabler thread for me.
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I've seen rudeness on both sides (that isn't a comment in support of either side. I have no feelings on way or the other on this headcanon. I don't like people insisting that it's canon because his birthname is Leto and then getting unpleasant towards those who don't share their headcanons.)
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Like I said earlier I think people can headcanon what they want, but I really don't understand how Leto being a female Greek name would prove that he is trans - for example the name "Kim" here in Scandinavia (although technically unisex) is mostly given to boys, while it seems to be the other way around in America. In France men can be named Marie, which is only a female name here. So yeah, people can think what they like but I do not see that as a very compelling evidence.
Heh. Really? I suppose Fenris' mother made certain sure to tell everyone she chose it as a girl's name from Greek mythology just because she hated Dune and didn't want people to think her child was named after the Duke. I mean. Right?
Like I said earlier I think people can headcanon what they want, but I really don't understand how Leto being a female Greek name would prove that he is trans - for example the name "Kim" here in Scandinavia (although technically unisex) is mostly given to boys, while it seems to be the other way around in America. In France men can be named Marie, which is only a female name here. So yeah, people can think what they like but I do not see that as a very compelling evidence.
Leto is also a gender netural name! It's more common as a girl's name but it is a boy's name too.
Also, sorry for starting this whole POC thing.
Auckland? Totally out of curiosity for my own country
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Rotorua actually, though I suppose Auckland beats us in sheer size, I've always found the variety of people more apparent here.
To confuse it more, the term isn't even just based on skin color, though for some it is. Hence the nobody can really make up their minds and people will deny others and just jumble of things it can become. it's not really a settled thing even here in the US.
Had to unfollow someone recently because of consistent rants calling out lighter-skinned Latinos as just white people and saying we basically don't count and shouldn't have our opinions considered on certain matters. Personally, it's not like I'm unaware that my experience in life is going to be different than my very dark-skinned Cuban friend, but the insistence and denial were too much. If there's one thing to respect, it's people's identities.
But as with anything else, it's good to know where your boundaries and privileges are and to learn how to put your pride away and truly listen to others sometimes.
To be on topic...something Solas surely forgot.
I had a heated argument with someone after they insisted I was 'passing white.' Eventually we decided it wasn't a discussion worth having, but it took me a while to realise what made me so angry. I'm a mess of different cultures, with ancestors of almost every possible variety, my entire family fly in the face of any attempt to categorizing people based on race. Someone trying to wrap me up as simply 'pretty much white' really hurt, which is kinda funny because at the time I thought I had no racial preconceptions or prejudices. Oh me, keep on learning.
Also, hearing Merrill call Feynriel a 'half breed' cuts me every time. Screw you Merrill, see if romance you again.
Mini art break. ![]()
Gorgeous artwork of Solas and Lavellan relaxing under a tree.
Lovely comic of Lavellan telling Solas to take away her vallaslin.
Ashae Lavellan's favorite time of year -- SPRING!
(Solavellan)
And lastly, not art but some pretty Solas aesthetics.
Rotorua actually, though I suppose Auckland beats us in sheer size, I've always found the variety of people more apparent here.
Ah yeah, actually I think I remember you mentioning it before. The North Island seems to have more variety
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I'm not privy to a lot of the cultural/historical context that comes with the use of the term 'POC - not firsthand anyway. I'm also speaking as someone who isn't white, but isn't a racial minority either. When I was younger, the term 'POC' ... well I won't pretend that it baffled me, because I consumed plenty of Western media and I'm certainly used to watching movies and reading books full of white people. And even here in Asia, our perceptions of black people are influenced by their portrayals in American media. It greatly pisses me off to think of it, but it's true.
I used to think that 'POC' was just a nice way of saying 'not-white', and why would anybody want to define themselves as not-something? And yes, I consider that naive of me now. It's a meaningful distinction for many people whether they like it or not. I still don't claim to understand the term the way someone in the US might. But if I went to live there, I would be considered a POC, and my knee-jerk reaction is to be a little irked by the term. I'd rather be called by my actual ethnicity than what I'm not, to say nothing of being handily put in a category with everyone who 'failed' to be white.
I can't speak for myself (I am a very pale white person), but I have a number of friends - who are people of colour - who use the term 'person of colour'. I mean, this sentence is a good example of its use, as these friends are not all black - some are, others are east asian, others are indian, others consider themselves having a mixed ethnicity - so 'people of colour' is a good term which expresses what I want to say: 'people who are affected by racial discrimination, and thus have more developed and different opinions on the topic than me, a person who is not affected by racial discrimination'.
I think a number of them would broadly agree with you. People of colour are not the same - in fact, they are very, very different, the only uniting factor is that in the west at least is that shared experience of being discriminated by society for their ethnicity, for their race. I think they would argue, if an issue pertains to black people - just use the phrase black people, it's more specific, more correct, and probably more polite. I think they would also argue that there's times where you'd like a term to refer to anyone affected by racism and white supremacy in the west - and 'people of colour' is supposed to be that term.
It's got a time & a place, it's not supposed to be used all the time, I think?
idk, as said above, I'm white, I'm speaking primarily for others who I know have more developed opinions on this.
Has anyone else seen the offical N7 day video?
Has anyone else seen the offical N7 day video?
meee!! ![]()
looks super cool, and I haven't even played any of the ME games.
Also, I thought Andromeda wasn't going to be about Shepherd? Seemed kinda misleading
(I probably don't know what I'm talking about)
top: stare into his glorious screen-shotted eyes
(btw solas-an did an extreme closeup on solas's eyes in neutral lighting, and apparently they are grey with violet around the pupil. you can kinda see it here if you look really closely)

source: solas-sahlin
meee!!
looks super cool, and I haven't even played any of the ME games.
Also, I thought Andromeda wasn't going to be about Shepherd? Seemed kinda misleading
(I probably don't know what I'm talking about)
The video was Shepard's farewell to us: 'This is Commander Shepard, signing off'
The video was Shepard's farewell to us: 'This is Commander Shepard, signing off'
knew I didn't know what I was talking about =3=
but srsly, it looked amazing. Might actually play this one ![]()
(I love anything that gives me feels, and ME seems to be pretty feels-heavy, from the looks of it)
knew I didn't know what I was talking about =3=
but srsly, it looked amazing. Might actually play this one
(I love anything that gives me feels, and ME seems to be pretty feels-heavy, from the looks of it)
Try playing the original trilogy. I know a lot of us here tend to hate on the ending of ME3 but the games are SO GOOD. Very much full of feels, and has several of Weekes' best characters (Mordin Solus and Kasumi Goto are two of my favourites).
I got a lot of feels from that video. And having Jane Shepard narrating it was just... ![]()
I just watched the N7 video. Damn, I miss my Shepard now.
Got all emotional that they used FemShep, too. Bioware ![]()
I'm definitely interested in the ME series now. But I'm SCARED of another accidental hellspiral.
I'm definitely interested in the ME series now. But I'm SCARED of another accidental hellspiral.
It doesn't ever get quite that bad, imo. I think there's only two romances that have an unavoidable bad outcome, and only one where it ends in tears no matter what. That was my romance, of course
. I thought I'd never cry that hard over a stupid video game ever again. Little did I know...
But you should play it. ![]()
I'm definitely interested in the ME series now. But I'm SCARED of another accidental hellspiral.
Like others before me have said: Play it!
The series is so damn good! The only reason why I hellspiralled so badly after I ended ME3 was because I hated the ending.
(The Extended Cut version made it a little bit more bearable.)
If you haven't played Mass Effect I warmly recommend it - I myself was very skeptical at first because I really don't like shooters, but the story and the characters are equally as good as in DA. I would also dare say that there are even more feels in ME, but that is just my opinion. If you, like me, are not a very proficient shooter you can always play a biotic - easier to play and a lot of fun to throw enemies way up in the air! The DLC, Citadel in particular, is also excellent.
Man I miss my Shepard...
This is my favorite forum on the Citadel. I should go!
Edit* And for heavens sake, if you do play ME3 make sure you have the Extended Cut installed!!!