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Out of interest, how canon is this chart?

 

One of the things I'm hoping for in the CC is a description of what the different Vallaslin mean, even if it's just one or two words saying which Creator they represent, or their basic meaning.

 

AFAIK they are pretty canon, i believe hyperbali illustrated them directly from the ones in DAO and they do look accurate to me. I hope there's an explanation for each tattoo in the CC too, that would make picking them more meaningful. 



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Apparently Mike Laidlaw said it was not going to happen. No CC description of the gods related to the Vallaslin.

 

EDIT: official tweet here.

 

Thanks for that.

 

It's more of a best guess. In a different thread people were hoping that BW would make a blog post or something to explain each vallaslin meaning especially because they're mandatory this time. 

 

I hope so.  The Lore Nerd in me demands it!


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Unfortunatly I don't have any unique hug gifs so I'll just post this one here, hopes it puts all your minds at ease a bit (it always works for me   ;)

 

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I totally forgot about the possibility of new vallaslins! I really hope we have a bunch of new ones, I was maybe planning to use the Mother of Halla one, since my elfquisitor will have a strong connection with them and she loves animals, but I can't wait to see what new ones they have. I've always loved the intricate patterns of them. And with even a scar intensity setting gee, I'll have to spend the first 6 hours of the game in character creation if it's that in-depth  :P

 

The kitten is so cute and soothing.  I could watch it taking teeny breaths forever.  The Ghilan'nain is one of the prettiest, I think.  I may never make it into the game if the CC is that in depth. ;_;  Sylaise is one of my favorites and very appropriate for what I want to play.  But I really like the idea of Falon'din's for an Inquisitor.

 

Well, I'm glad it'll be a fairly easy transfer for you! That does sound like a viable variable, though. And I imagine a Dalish mage would be much more confident than a Circle mage, given that they're looked up to instead of essentially spat upon. Of course, Merrill's not exactly sure of herself, I guess... but still, fun things to ponder?   :)

 

My CE-turned-Dalish would obviously be infinity more familiar with humans and their world... plus she'd have no problems with City Elves, having come from there. So that gives me more room to work with while I get familiar with the current state of the world, which makes her appealing for a first run... However, when I ran her in the tabletop she was fairly jaded and cold. I guess I could evolve it as living with the clan and having a proper home, family, and life has loosened her up? And maybe she could want to spread those kind of positive feelings to other CEs... because I very much like the idea of the Dalish and City Elves working together for the sake of all elves, instead of being divided... That only makes it easier for the humans to dominate them, after all... Hmm... MICH NEWS, MUCH TO CONSIDER. The cousin to my Warden will still be my canon, but at least now I have an interesting mess of a first run instead of just a mess.   :P

 

Agree about the vallaslin, though. I've seen that link, and it's good! But I doubt all the options will be the same from Origins... Sigh. THIS IS IMPORTANT INFORMATION, BIOWARE. Even just, like, a forum sticky or something... But I guess worst comes to worst, I'll just pick what I think is pretty and tell myself that she chose it because it meant something to her.   :lol:

 

 I think she was pretty sure of herself either way but I think she'd have been older as a Circle mage.  She doesn't have any experience with the templars, so there won't be any immediate HATE reactions just oceans full of distrust; my Circle mage wasn't going to trust anyone easily either.  I may play her Circle mage variant just to see how she interacts differently with Cole because Cole is my actual favorite these days and maybe also to be my canon run, since I'm sure I will ruin everything on my first run.  What will probably happen is I will hit a point where race is important and then make a character of every race out of excitement and then have a dozen characters and no finished playthroughs.

 

I wish I was half as good at this planning stuff as you are.  That is so much well thought out planning and she sounds like a pretty awesome character.  <3


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I like the markings that is for the dead. I almost thought of giving that to my Dalish Mage along with necromancy. Even if Solas is proven to not be a complete villain (depending on your choices), I seem to be using the Dalish Elves for 'evil'. ^^;; Except for Hawke who just wants Merrill to do the right thing without using blood magic.



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Hyperbali made a lovely illustrated chart of the main eight Vallaslin:

 

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Oh boy, I thought I was pretty sure of wanting to use Ghilan'nain, but now that I see them all like this I'm starting to fall in love with the first option for Falon'din... Maybe I'll just take that as an excuse to make another Lavellan  :P I wonder what the tradition with the markings is though, do they get to pick themselves, or does the Keeper do that for them if she/he thinks they have an affinity with a certain God? I don't remember ever reading something about that.



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Oh boy, I thought I was pretty sure of wanting to use Ghilan'nain, but now that I see them all like this I'm starting to fall in love with the first option for Falon'din... Maybe I'll just take that as an excuse to make another Lavellan :P I wonder what the tradition with the markings is though, do they get to pick themselves, or does the Keeper do that for them if she/he thinks they have an affinity with a certain God? I don't remember ever reading something about.

 

I think I remember a codex entry about it being the elf's choice and the ceremony had to be done in silence. If they can't endure the pain they're not ready for adulthood. 


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I think I remember a codex entry about it being the elf's choice and the ceremony had to be done in silence. If they can't endure the pain they're not ready for adulthood. 

 

Here the codex.


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So what's the latest on Solas? What are all the posts talking about, the ones that are saying Solas only wants a babymaker and that he is evil? 



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So what's the latest on Solas? What are all the posts talking about, the ones that are saying Solas only wants a babymaker and that he is evil? 

 

Solas is an LI for female elves only.  The babymaker theory is one of the less kind ones about why that may be.  The theory that he may be evil has been around for awhile; he's kind of sketchy sounding.



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I think I remember a codex entry about it being the elf's choice and the ceremony had to be done in silence. If they can't endure the pain they're not ready for adulthood. 

 

 

 

Ah, thank you! That's really interesting! And pretty harsh, wow  :P



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Huh so it being their choice is just headcanon then.

 

Sorry Cezelle.



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So what's the latest on Solas? What are all the posts talking about, the ones that are saying Solas only wants a babymaker and that he is evil? 

Well, we gathered some theories.

 

1 Who is he?

 

From the Wiki : "Solas grew up in a small village,though he spent most of his life alone in the wilderness and is technically neither a Dalish or city elf. Despite having no contact with the Circle of Magi or any Dalish tutors (though he has had contact with clans during his travels),Solas taught himself how to master his magical abilities. Solas' prime interest is in the Fade, happily spending his time dreaming in ancient ruins and learning all there is to learn about what dwells beyond the Veil rather than joining the current Mage-Templar War."

 

So, this can be what he tells others. But truely, his power seems to be VERY special. And being able to master your magic with no training at all? Often, Hedge mages turn out to only be able to do some tricks (as seen in asunder) but are not said to be able to master their power on their own.

Now, add Solas' ability to sense Elven artifacts. Even in Witch Hunt, Ariane needed a ritual with her blood to be able to detect the lights of Parlathan. So, there is some ground for a theory of Solas being an ancient Elf (an awoken Somniari) or the pure blooded descendant of the Elves of old.

 

2 What does he want?

 

He joins the inquisition after seing the Breach. But why?

 

A villain?  Some believe he might be a traitor. His link with the Veil and his ability to enter there at will make him a perfect potential accomplice for the scheme of demons. So, Solas would be infiltrating the Inquisition? Remember, devs said the demons could win.

 

An Elven supporter? Use the Inquisition for his own agenda? Restoring and Elven Land for instance? Solas seems very focused on the Elven lore.

 

Plus:

 

 

His story is too ordinary to justify his talent and knowledge, thus I'm of the opinion that he's an ancient elf, or working for one or another force. Same as Felassan. 

I don't believe elves are going to revolt for real in this game, but that Bioware is preparing the ground for some big conflict in the (hopefully) next game.

 

Then, Quoting myself:

 You know, I have no proof to defend this theory at all, but somehow, I think Solas beware Masked Empire spoiler

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I know it is far fetched, yet I like the idea.

 

 EDIT, and yeah! His story is definitely NOT explaining his powers!

 

And then

Yeah, we don't have enough infor so all we can do is speculate. I, too, think Solas' connected to what happened in the end of DAME. 

 

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I don't believe he's going to be a villain, though.

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#14288
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Huh so it being their choice is just headcanon then.

 

Sorry Cezelle.

 

No problem! I think it would've been pretty neat if every elf could've chosen if she/he wanted vallaslin instead of it being forced upon them. But oh well, Dalish and their traditions..  :rolleyes:



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Oh boy, I thought I was pretty sure of wanting to use Ghilan'nain, but now that I see them all like this I'm starting to fall in love with the first option for Falon'din... Maybe I'll just take that as an excuse to make another Lavellan  :P I wonder what the tradition with the markings is though, do they get to pick themselves, or does the Keeper do that for them if she/he thinks they have an affinity with a certain God? I don't remember ever reading something about that.

 

I we thinking of using June's for my Braeth, and making her be a Necromancer. There's something... creepy about putting the symbol of Craftsman God on the face of a necromancer...

 

As for what's causing the forum to shift a bit, it could be something in your Signature causing a problem? Any hanging html tags?


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*pops in for vallaslin chatting*

Elgar'nan and Andruil are the ones that would make sense for my Elidri. Unfortunately, I'm not too keen on those designs. June and Ghilan'nain are my faves, but I'm not sure they fit her character. Decisions, decisions.
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I we thinking of using June's for my Braeth, and making her be a Necromancer. There's something... creepy about putting the symbol of Craftsman God on the face of a necromancer...

 

As for what's causing the forum to shift a bit, it could be something in your Signature causing a problem? Any hanging html tags?

 

That does sound delightfully creepy.

 

I've seen this happen in the twitter thread.  I think something was broken about the formatting of one of Cezelle's post but it should right itself once we hit a new page.


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*pops in for vallaslin chatting*

Elgar'nan and Andruil are the ones that would make sense for my Elidri. Unfortunately, I'm not too keen on those designs. June and Ghilan'nain are my faves, but I'm not sure they fit her character. Decisions, decisions.

Don't decide just now, there will be new Vallaslin patterns ;)



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I hope that the Falon'din one stays as it is, I really love its design  <3



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Don't decide just now, there will be new Vallaslin patterns ;)


I'm someone who plans months in advance, so this is pretty short notice for me! :P I do hope there are some nice ones that I can convince myself are for Elgar'nan or Andruil!

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I'm so intrigued by his character, I love all these theories. I don't know which I want to be true most.

81 sleeps till I find out what's happening with him! :( stupid UK release date..
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I we thinking of using June's for my Braeth, and making her be a Necromancer. There's something... creepy about putting the symbol of Craftsman God on the face of a necromancer...

 

As for what's causing the forum to shift a bit, it could be something in your Signature causing a problem? Any hanging html tags?

 

Well, you could say she might be a craftsman of the dead?... *cough bad joke cough* I'm not sure what's happening with the forum though, it seems only that one certain initial post of the vallaslin is acting weird and all the others look perfectly fine, I've tried closing/starting up my browser, logging in and out of the forum, editing it, deleting stuff and typing it back in, but it just sits there, looking weird.



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I think I will also choose Falon'Din Vallaslin (well, hoping that I can get some kind of official idea of which is which).

 

Mostly because I think Captain Glowstick in the Enemy of Thedas trailer could be Falon'Din (or, who the Dalish believe is Falon'Din, and the Chantry believe is Andraste, seeing as Captain Glowstick appears female... or something like that, I have no idea, yay, vaguely baseless speculation!).

 

Warning, large images are large:

 

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@Zarro-Morningstar - just a lot of unbased speculation.  No worries other than his status as a LI for female elves we have nothing new.

 

@ those who are messaging DG  and PW (although I doubt any of them are in this thread).  REALLY not cool to harass the devs just because you didn't get something you wanted.  We are so lucky here that the Bioware devs communicate with the fans as much as they do.  We should thank them for their time, not bash their writing babies. 

 

 

AND, back on topic.  The short fic I created to flesh out my first Inquisitor.  Female Dalish rogue who will probably romance Solas.  Both chapters up now.  DISCLAIMER:  All belongs to Bioware and I have no idea how my Inquisitor will actually meet Solas.  This is just what came to mind.

 

Chapter 1

 

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Chapter 2

 

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Ghilan'nain has always been my vallaslin choice, but I have no idea if it'll be right for my mage.  Probably be okay for my hunter.




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