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Art post time again. :wizard:

 

Pulchra Tenebris part 24.

 

Victorian AU Solas and Lavellan. (Solas in glasses! <3)

 

Solas and Lavellan walking and holding hands.  ^_^

 

Solavellan doodles: Lavellan using Solas' shoulder as a pillow on the way back from Halamshiral.

 

A WIP of Lavellan and two wolves (Fen'Harel).

 

A cute Solas artwork.


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So do you think Solas can turn into a dragon? B)


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Alright, now what I'm curious about is that throughout all this revelation stuff, there still hasn't really been any mention of the Forgotten Ones. Yes, it could be just a 'completion of the pantheon' to represent negative qualities, but my theory is that perhaps the Forgotten Ones and the Enavuris are actually one and the same, only different aspects of the same beings.

 

The reason why I'm thinking this is because of how the elves regard their mythology: the FO's are bad. They do terrible things, represent the worst in their kind, they are 'locked away' for a good reason. Fen'Harel betraying them can only be a good thing. The 'gods' however, are good, despite the way they treated their people. Fen'Harel betraying them is sacrilege. This could be the people, some of them at least, recognizing that though Fen'Harel did a terrible thing that would cause the destruction of their entire civilization, he did also liberated them; so his actions are a double-edged sword. He saved them by destroying them. That would warrant a metaphorical depiction as the celestial turncoat. One thing bothers me, though: where in the nine hells did the legend of the quickening come from? That humans caused it, I mean? It is clear that Fen'Harel was responsible for the gods disappearing and thus far my theory has been that this weakened the elves to the point where they could easily be defeated by humans. Yet we see actual sources in the Crossroads saying that Fen'Harel raised the Veil - either this supports my theory that the 'ruling class' were all locked away along with the gods, or it means that somewhere along the line this critical piece of information got horribly garbled for some reason. (I mean, remembering Fen'Harel being responsible for the imprisonment of the gods but not remembering how seems a little odd to me.)

 

OK, bedtime before I sit here till gods know how long and I end up hating myself in the morning. :lol:

 

To be continued.

I just had one of them there Oprah aha moments I thunk. Thanks!

 

Yes, indeed the Elven gods and the Forgotten Ones could be one in the same. Lately I've been thinking about city elves vs the Dalish and how their mythologies fit into this all. Perhaps the city elves were just pacifists who gave up the fight against the shemlen vs the Dalish who did not...or perhaps they were two different peoples from the beginning--or rather since the end of Elvhenan. Perhaps the city elves are descendants of survivors who were already free or were freed by Fen'Harel while the Dalish descend from those devoted slaves who served the "gods" until the end and beyond (explains them passing the tradition of the slave markings onto their children). Perhaps these factions subsequently each had different views of the Evanuris, which inevitably evolved into the ideas of the Forgotten Ones and the Pantheon.

 

Consider Abelas...How likely do you think he'd be to acknowledge any wrong Mythal may have done? He is either blinded by his devotion or by the power of his markings, or maybe he and the other sentinels are simply brainwashed.   

 

Also, don't the elven gods seem strangely absent from alienages? There the Evanuris are the Forgotten Ones. 

 

This makes good story sense to me. We have "Where Willows Wail" which also may imply that all the modern elves descended from slaves (freed or otherwise) and it was the city elves' loss of faith in the gods that started the civil war with the others (now the Dalish and people like Abelas)--the war that brought about the end of the empire. It is from the World of Thedas Vol 2, but you can find it on the Dragon Age wiki.

 

Where Willows Wail
An elven version of a lullaby local to Denerim and nearby villages to the south. 
 
Tel’enara bellana bana’vhenadahl,
Sethen’a ir san’shiral, mala tel’halani
Ir sa’vir te’suledin var bana’vallaslin,
Vora’nadas san banal’him emma abel revas.
Ir tela’ena glandival, vir amin tel’hanin.
Ir tela las ir Fen halam, vir am’tela’elvahen.
 
We/it lost eternity or the ruined tree of the People
Time won’t help when the land of dreams is no longer our journey
We try to lead despite the eventual failing of our markings.
To the inevitable and troubling freedom we are committed.
When we could no longer believe, we lost glory to war.
When the Wolf failed/won, we lost the People to war.
 
At any rate the city elves obviously remember more than Solas would give them credit for. I like how whoever wrote this piece included the dual meaning, "the Wolf failed/won." They've been singing the straight story to their children since who knows when. The alienages must hold some interesting secrets. I'm excited to get back to the city elves in the next game. I wonder if despite their servitude they are actually more true to an older elvhen tradition...with their hahrens and their vhenadahls.

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Well, might as well leave it here, so here's my Solavellan kid. I drew him before but as a bub with his mother Nanaya, so pretty much this is how he'd look when older. He looks more like a clone of his mother though... ><

 

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Coloured Version, because why not?


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24 February 2015.  An auspicious day. Thread page 3167.  Post #79168

 

Solas = The Tingle Dandy Hotdog

Iron Bull = The Tinker Bell

Blackwall = The Smart Obscene Eagle

Varric = The Special Enchanted Gaia

 

You guys know what I'm talking about.  I thought I would feel bad for Solas.  I actually feel much worse for Iron Bull.

Varric's though.   :blink:

 

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


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I've played on nightmare twice (once with a rift mage and once with a knight enchanter), and it really isn't that bad as long as you take your time. You can't rush ahead on nightmare, especially at the beginning. You have to kill everything and be sure you are at the appropriate level for plot quests and enemies. The hardest enemy for me on nightmare was Alexius. I ended up having to load and level up to 9 to kill him...level 7 just wasn't enough. Once you make it to Skyhold it's no big deal. That said, it makes more sense to play on nightmare for a more completionist playthrough...because you'll have to get a lot of xp to level up. 

 

About sealing the Breach at the beginning, my tip is to hide from the demon/kite enemies by running around that tower of rock/rubble/red lyrium or whatever it is that is in the center of the zone (right behind the breach) when you are waiting for recharges/cooldowns. You can also disrupt the rift from just behind that rubble which is great if you have the lesser enemies focused on a follower on the other side. You may have to revive people a lot (focus on Solas for the barrier and then Cassandra for the tanking), but it's doable even for a flying by the seat of her pants, potion guzzler like myself. ;)

 

I'm no expert. I'm just sharing the little I've gleaned.

 

 

*ALSO, a shameless self plug: the next chapter of my A Christmas Carol in Thedas fic is finally done. The chapter is 6700 some odd words. Yay!? That's the most I've written in one go since the senior thesis. At least it wasn't about Faulkner! I could use some tips and feedback. I started to feel a little crazy at the end of it all. 

Thanks for the tips! Very helpful, I never thought about hiding from the demon during the first part. It was funny on that playthrough even Leliana was down. I didn't know she could also be 'killed' and revived. I have a cute male Trevelyan at level one waiting on me to finish his intro. I forgot what setting his is on either hard or nightmare. I think I will try for the Trial of Fools achievement with him. Though I doubt I can do it, I tend to be too much of a completionist, gathering as much stuff as possible to level up early, and Haven has enough stuff to level up at least once before even leaving for the Hinterlands.

 

I've marked your chapter to read later, have a group assignment to finish before the holiday break. Funny how my team members are not procrastinators like I am. They actually want it done early :P


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A remake of the song Demons by Anthem Lights that so many ladies were requesting for :) 

 


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@Ardent Blossom:

 

There's an astrarium to Fenrir (white wolf and quite possibly Fen'Harel) outside the Tevinter slave prison Coracavus. I like to imagine the slaves at that time looked for hope in him.

 

Coracavus is built on top of a Deep Roads entrance. Not sure if that means an Old God is below the Western Approach.


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Here's a question:

 

How does Ameridan know time magic? The Still Ruins is the only other place where we've seen time stop, AND (brain just remembered this) the way to start time again was taking the Avvar weapon 'Tempest' (which has text regarding the Lady of the Skies).


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Here's a question:

 

How does Ameridan know time magic? The Still Ruins is the only other place where we've seen time stop, AND (brain just remembered this) the way to start time again was taking the Avvar weapon 'Tempest' (which has text regarding the Lady of the Skies).

 

Oooo! My guess is *spoilers*! Maybe time magic was always known to the elves in some form...not being able to travel back but just being able to stop time. Perhaps uthenera is also a form of time magic. Maybe Solas pulled an Ameridan (or a Flora, Fauna, and Merryweather, if you'd rather) on Arlathan. The place is frozen in time, but the spell won't hold much longer. The modern elves have simply forgotten the old spells like Ameridan's.

 

Then again perhaps it wasn't so much that the ancient elves lived forever, it was just that their magic allowed them to exist in frozen time. They somehow lived in infinite slow motion. Remember when Solas says the elves' immortality was the effect of their magic not the cause of their nature. Perhaps the time magics that caused effective immortality required a connection to the fade, which would totally work with Alexius' amulet only working while the breach was open. Hmmm...so many good ideas floating around this morning.


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Art

 

Coloring Page - If anyone wants to color this, you can as long as you let her know about it. :D

http://whatitmeansto...-Path-574169628

 

The Hermit

http://ladyscribbles...ermit-574168473

 

Mini Solas Figurine

http://karikun.devia...Munny-574122686

 

Egg doing his research

http://miroyasha.dev...earch-574005316


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Yes it sounds related to the fade because the Avvar seem to be connected, and they're rather connected with those things.

 

The still ruins also has one of Solas' artifacts. And apparently time shopping stopping (lol auto correct) was a fail safe.


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Lastly, how do the Avvar summon their gods in dragon form? I mean that has to be a major hint right there: mortals requesting spirits inhabit dragon bodies. Does that mean the Old Gods were spirits summoned into bodies?

 

Many thoughts.. much questions. Wow.


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Yes it sounds related to the fade because the Avvar seem to be connected, and they're rather connected with those things.

 

The still ruins also has one of Sols' artifacts. And apparently time shopping was a fail safe.

 

Wow, you guys put a lot more thought/writer credit into this than I did.  I just chalked it up to a slightly messy plot device so we could meet the silver foxiest of Inquisitors  :lol:


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Sable: Oh gawsh, you made me see my typo (time shopping) :lol:.

 

While I'm on a roll, a theory:

 

The evanuris were after body-hopping immortality, by brainwashing via vallaslin lyrium markings. A soul isn't forced on the unwilling. Brainwashing is potentially mentioned in the 'Willows Wail': eventual failing of our markings, troubling freedom. I also think Dwarves were once mindless drones for the titans because of lyrium (which has failing memory as a side effect).


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Art again. :P

 

Modern AU: Grad student Solas by salesart:wub:

 

Solas researching by candlelight. (animation)

 

The first time Miha Lavellan repeated it to him after learning what it meant..  ^_^

 

Sketch of Solas and Lavellan.

 

Welcome to the Magic Nerd  Magic Discussion Group about Magic. :wizard: (Male Lavellan, Solas, Dorian, and Vivienne)


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Sable: Oh gawsh, you made me see my typo (time shopping) :lol:.

 

Time shopping sounds like fun. I'd buy enough to sleep in.


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I bet it was a thing in Arlathan.

 

TIME SHOPPING: Come! Explore forgotten periods in time, review long past moments.. Relive favourite memories or learn from the past!

 

Ooookay.. I'm going to uthenera now. Someone remember to stick some elfroot-weed in my mouth to sustain me.


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I bet it was a thing in Arlathan.

 

TIME SHOPPING: Come! Explore forgotten periods in time, review long past moments.. Relive favourite memories or learn from the past!

 

Ooookay.. I'm going to uthenera now. Someone remember to stick some elfroot-weed in my mouth to sustain me.

 

:lol:


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I'm laughing much more than I should...
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Modern AU: Grad student Solas by salesart:wub:

 

Oh Solas.  First the hobo sweater, then the kneefaces and crotch pelt.  Now the manbun.  Always the least fashionable  :wub:


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Oh Solas.  First the hobo sweater, then the kneefaces and crotch pelt.  Now the manbun.  Always the least fashionable  :wub:

 

Endearingly so. :wub:

 

I still want to touch the sweater.


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Just realized that having dark Lavellan will make some screenarchery a little tricky.

 

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Look what I have stumbled upon!

 

http://karikun.devia...Munny-574122686

 

solas_mini_munny_by_karikun-d9htfwe.jpg


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Endearingly so. :wub:

 

I still want to touch the sweater.

 

He's such a lost cause :P  In hindsight, the dork hat at Halamshiral really shouldn't have come as a surprise.


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He's such a lost cause :P  In hindsight, the dork hat at Halamshiral really shouldn't have come as a surprise.

 

That hat is just so Solas too.

 

Ah, the days of innocent, dorky face shrapnel.


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