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Oh, I don't know - Cassandra says that the Mark is killing Inky just at the beginning of the main game - and the initial closing of the Breach and whatever Solas has done to it then merely postponed the inevitable; for some reason I have a feeling that he's done the same thing now. I mean, yes, he removed the Anchor, but eventually the long-term exposure to its magic may yet claim Inquisitor's life.

Wasn't this covered by Weekes on Twitter? The anchor is gone and so is any threat to the Inquisitor from it. I don't have twitter, and I know the posts were in code but they were posted sometime within the week or two after Trespasser released.


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The only thing I wish for DA4 (I think they said they are going to resolve Solas story there?) is that there is not a Solas = ultimate evil plot and the only solution is to kill or trap him for eternity. I don't know I feel so sad about him I really wish there would be some happiness for him, but I fear that is unlikely. Or if he has to be trapped, give the option to send lavellan with him so he isn't alone. 

 

...I don't think that would make him happy^^; In fact, I think it may just destroy him entirely, especially that the reason he doesn't let Lavellan go with him is more then likely to not to pull her with him on din'anshiral. He knows she loves him and so far she hasn't yet given up on him and in the scenario where she leaves with him, ultimately betraying (or 'betraying', even if she only went to try and persuade him to not go with his plan) the world she so far protected would mean that she'd likely be more than ready to sacrifice herself for his sake, which will possibly doom her more profoundly than staying with the other side.


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Oh, I don't know - Cassandra says that the Mark is killing Inky just at the beginning of the main game - and the initial closing of the Breach and whatever Solas has done to it then merely postponed the inevitable; for some reason I have a feeling that he's done the same thing now. I mean, yes, he removed the Anchor, but eventually the long-term exposure to its magic may yet claim Inquisitor's life.

Yeah, but somehow we may still hope for a solution about both the anchor and the veil, story wise.  But at the same time I would want as a gamer both a happy and a tragic ending option. Like inky dies and the veil is torn with bad result (for the tragic ending then of course.) Just an example.



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Wasn't this covered by Weekes on Twitter? The anchor is gone and so is any threat to the Inquisitor from it. I don't have twitter, and I know the posts were in code but they were posted sometime within the week or two after Trespasser released.

 

 

Weekes was actually pretty vague about the Anchor for the most part. Besides - the Anchor doesn't have to be there for the residual magic to eventually claim Inky's life. Therefore it may eventually kill them, even if indirectly.



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Wasn't this covered by Weekes on Twitter? The anchor is gone and so is any threat to the Inquisitor from it. I don't have twitter, and I know the posts were in code but they were posted sometime within the week or two after Trespasser released.

 

Wasn't that just guesses not real facts?



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Oh, I don't know - Cassandra says that the Mark is killing Inky just at the beginning of the main game - and the initial closing of the Breach and whatever Solas has done to it then merely postponed the inevitable; for some reason I have a feeling that he's done the same thing now. I mean, yes, he removed the Anchor, but eventually the long-term exposure to its magic may yet claim Inquisitor's life.

 

I can't find it now, but Weekes, IIRC, cleared up that the threat is gone once the Anchor is gone.

 

edit: and others posted while I was searching for it.


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I can't find it now, but Weekes, IIRC, cleared up that the threat is gone once the Anchor is gone.

 

edit: and others posted while I was searching for it.

I know it's buried pages and pages back, but I can't even begin to think around what page number it was posted.


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I want a Hug Solas option.


It would be the very first thing my Lavellan did as soon as she saw Solas. I roleplay this one as a sweet, gentle and caring character, so it would be a perfectly natural reaction for her. :blush:



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From what I understood the anchor is not going to kill the inquisitor now that it is removed. From what Solas said I think the main threat for the inquisitors life is what Solas is going to do and not the anchor.

 

Which makes me wonder why he does not want lavellan to go with him. He expects her to die through his actions but does not want her to follow him on his death journey? I guees it is what he said before: he does not want lavellan to see what he becomes. Which makes me really wonder about his plans. 


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Yeah, but somehow we may still hope for a solution about both the anchor and the veil, story wise.  But at the same time I would want as a gamer both a happy and a tragic ending option. Like inky dies and the veil is torn with bad result (for the tragic ending then of course.) Just an example.

 

I am always for options, the more the better - but I do like to have a somewhat happy ending, although it is really relative what one expects to be a happy ending I guess...


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From what I understood the anchor is not going to kill the inquisitor now that it is removed. From what Solas said I think the main threat for the inquisitors life is what Solas is going to do and not the anchor.

 

Which makes me wonder why he does not want lavellan to go with him. He expects her to die through his actions but does not want her to follow him on his death journey? I guees it is what he said before: he does not want lavellan to see what he becomes. Which makes me really wonder about his plans. 

 

That a thing that made me wonder if maybe Solas could be dying now or something else?



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An other one:

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That a thing that made me wonder if maybe Solas could be dying now or something else?

 

I am not sure - first I thought it sounded like he was going to die but he says that on this journey there is only death - does not mean his death. And we know that the evanuris (and he belongs to them although he is likely not as powerful than before) are not easy to kill. 


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That a thing that made me wonder if maybe Solas could be dying now or something else?

 

One doesn't have to die literally to be 'dead' - especially given that we know that Solas may be as hard to kill as other Evanuris are, given that he's like them, even if somewhat diminished. Taking into consideration all the comments about his possible end, I assume therefore that he doesn't necessarily means a permanent death - some part of him would likely always be alive (since he said to Cole that the path he chose he'd be walking alone through eternity), however, he will likely 'die' in a sense that he forgets himself and therefore everything that made Solas... well 'Solas' will likely perish or be diminished to the point of insignificance - or he'd be removed from the world of living and therefore 'dead' to it.



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Oh, I don't know - Cassandra says that the Mark is killing Inky just at the beginning of the main game - and the initial closing of the Breach and whatever Solas has done to it then merely postponed the inevitable; for some reason I have a feeling that he's done the same thing now. I mean, yes, he removed the Anchor, but eventually the long-term exposure to its magic may yet claim Inquisitor's life.

 

I won't rule out there still being residual magic left within the Inquisitor.  We don't know how the Anchor may have changed the Inquisitor either.  But I don't think the Anchor is a danger to the Inquisitor now.  But who knows, maybe the writers will decide they want that to crop up later.

 

At this point I'd just like them to announce whether or not they'll be making a next game since Weekes is being coy and always saying "should we make another game" and stuff like that.  I mean, I know he can't just up and tell everyone that there will be a next game without permission.  I just wish they'd officially announce it so we can stop with the ifs.



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Probably not until the Mass Effect stuff is in high gear/ the game is out. DAI was formally announced about 6 months after ME3 came out. But once we do get something, it will be that much closer to coming out, at least?



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Probably not until the Mass Effect stuff is in high gear/ the game is out. DAI was formally announced about 6 months after ME3 came out,

 

True enough.  I'd just like something to look forward to.  There isn't enough info out about Andromeda for me to really look forward to it and Fallout 4 just isn't holding my interest.  It did for a few days but after that ... I haven't even finished the main quest and I'm just feeling meh about the game.



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I won't rule out there still being residual magic left within the Inquisitor.  We don't know how the Anchor may have changed the Inquisitor either.  But I don't think the Anchor is a danger to the Inquisitor now.  But who knows, maybe the writers will decide they want that to crop up later.

 

At this point I'd just like them to announce whether or not they'll be making a next game since Weekes is being coy and always saying "should we make another game" and stuff like that.  I mean, I know he can't just up and tell everyone that there will be a next game without permission.  I just wish they'd officially announce it so we can stop with the ifs.

 

Well, the Anchor wasn't a danger for Inquisitor through most of DAI - eventually however the Mark began acting up, and we do know that its exposure to ancient elfy magic only made it worse. And given a 100% certainty that they're likely going to be in contact with more ancient elfy magic in the future there's no way to predict now what exactly may eventually try and claim their life.

 

As for DA4 - I'm afraid that even if they announce it, we'd still have to wait for the details for a while, especially if they were to announce early that they're working on the game... I mean, I think they most likely do, but if I'm not mistaken, I think they're now preparing the demo for EA, so the game wasn't given a green light yet.

 

Besides, even if they were working on the game and managed to secure the funds and everything was in their favor there's no telling whatsoever whether they'd manage to make DA4 the way they planned to - though I assume that plans for DA4 are much more concrete than plans for DAI.

 

We know that the game was supposed to be different (in fact, it was supposed to be twice a s long... only they didn't cut that part of the game as much as they've saved it for another installment, judging from Gaider's comments) and went through many iterations, only to be given another year of development, thanks to which we have additional races and romances, including one with Solas. I suppose they could at least tell us if, say, Inky is going to return in any larger capacity - I personally think it is inevitable, but HOW they're going to do that is another thing entirely. Will Inquisitor return as a portagonist? As a secondary protagonist? As a strange mix-up of NPC and controllable PC at some points? Just as NPC? As proxies and notes and war table missions or something? Uh, really hard to tell what they're planning and if they can pull that of.

 

As for me, I'm carefully optimistic - the old-gen is no longer hampering them (plus, I assume developing on 3 platforms rather than 5 less costly); they have Frostbite engine mostly figured out, with new modules created and polished and tested further with MEA; they have all the assets created for DAI that can now be further expanded upon, rather than created from scratch or refurbished from older games; they have a working combat/crafting/inventory/potion/leveling system; many of the lose ends from older games are cut or tied and they appear to have a pretty firm grasp on what they want to do in the future.

 

So as much as I'm pulling my hair out because I want DA4 *right now!!!*, I'm pretty confident that whatever we're going to get it and whenever we're going to get it, it will likely be something that I'll probably find satisfying :)


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Perhaps Solas (if he now where dying) perhaps he is in a hurry to consive his plan because of that fact in one way or an other, whatever that plan might contain. I am just running through options in my mind of what might be nad not exactly excluding any... I will not decide to believe"Ah! this is it!" And then Bioware twist that with whatever they will write... :blush:  No offence. :pinched:



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Well, the Anchor wasn't a danger for Inquisitor through most of DAI - eventually however the Mark began acting up, and we do know that its exposure to ancient elfy magic only made it worse. And given a 100% certainty that they're likely going to be in contact with more ancient elfy magic in the future there's no way to predict now what exactly may eventually try and claim their life.

 

As for DA4 - I'm afraid that even if they announce it, we'd still have to wait for the details for a while, especially if they were to announce early that they're working on the game... I mean, I think they most likely do, but if I'm not mistaken, I think they're now preparing the demo for EA, so the game wasn't given a green light yet.

 

Besides, even if they were working on the game and managed to secure the funds and everything was in their favor there's no telling whatsoever whether they'd manage to make DA4 the way they planned to - though I assume that plans for DA4 are much more concrete than plans for DAI.

 

We know that the game was supposed to be different (in fact, it was supposed to be twice a s long... only they didn't cut that part of the game as much as they've saved it for another installment, judging from Gaider's comments) and went through many iterations, only to be given another year of development, thanks to which we have additional races and romances, including one with Solas. I suppose they could at least tell us if, say, Inky is going to return in any larger capacity - I personally think it is inevitable, but HOW they're going to do that is another thing entirely. Will Inquisitor return as a portagonist? As a secondary protagonist? As a strange mix-up of NPC and controllable PC at some points? Just as NPC? As proxies and notes and war table missions or something? Uh, really hard to tell what they're planning and if they can pull that of.

 

As for me, I'm carefully optimistic - the old-gen is no longer hampering them (plus, I assume developing on 3 platforms rather than 5 less costly); they have Frostbite engine mostly figured out, with new modules created and polished and tested further with MEA; they have all the assets created for DAI that can now be further expanded upon, rather than created from scratch or refurbished from older games; they have a working combat/crafting/inventory/potion/leveling system; many of the lose ends from older games are cut or tied and they appear to have a pretty firm grasp on what they want to do in the future.

 

So as much as I'm pulling my hair out because I want DA4 *right now!!!*, I'm pretty confident that whatever we're going to get it and whenever we're going to get it, it will likely be something that I'll probably find satisfying :)

 

Eh, I wouldn't expect any kind of details this far out.  And given DAI's success relative to DA2 I'd say it's a good bet that they'll make another DA game.  But I'm not a gambling kind of person and I prefer actual confirmation which is all I'd really like at this point.  I won't get it and as Cee said earlier they probably won't make any kind of announcement until some time after Andromeda releases.  I just want it!  NOW!  =p


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Topless Solas by our very own Garnet. (I hope you don't mind me showcasing it here.  :P )

 

 

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Lol I don't mind.  :blush: I'm flattered! It was meant to only be a figure study but then it turned into Solas. (There is a "full version" which I didn't show because legs and hands are not my fortè.)

 

I want a Hug Solas option.

I wanted nothing more than to grab his waist and give him a big hug in Trespasser. (Which may or may not have something to do with his armor..and curves....and...shiny.....  :whistle: ) A hug option would be nice!

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Hands up anyone who played Planescape: Torment in the past.   If you did then you may know what I am getting at; if not a brief explanation. (If you still think you might play it then Spoiler Alert)

 

To my mind this is still one of the best, if not the best fantasy game I have played.    It does not have a happy ending but it does have a hopeful one.    Basically the main character is someone who has been trying to avoid being damned for their past actions and this has only created more problems for them and others, particularly as they don't know who they are or what they did.    At the end one of the options is to accept your fate and head off into the fields of the damned.   However, one of the two ladies that have a thing for you promises to follow on and find you.  

 

So it occurs to me that redeeming Solas might have him seeing the error of his ways and voluntarily heading off into the depths of the Fade, with his lady love being given the option of following him.


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Hands up anyone who played Planescape: Torment in the past.   If you did then you may know what I am getting at; if not a brief explanation. (If you still think you might play it then Spoiler Alert)

 

To my mind this is still one of the best, if not the best fantasy game I have played.    It does not have a happy ending but it does have a hopeful one.    Basically the main character is someone who has been trying to avoid being damned for their past actions and this has only created more problems for them and others, particularly as they don't know who they are or what they did.    At the end one of the options is to accept your fate and head off into the fields of the damned.   However, one of the two ladies that have a thing for you promises to follow on and find you.  

 

So it occurs to me that redeeming Solas might have him seeing the error of his ways and voluntarily heading off into the depths of the Fade, with his lady love being given the option of following him.

 

I'm not exactly sure that I would say wandering off into the fields of the damned is a hopeful ending, whether or not the person who loves you follows.  That might even be worse because not only are YOU stuck basically in hell but so is the person you love the most.  I think I'll hope for something a little less dark than that.  =x

 

Edit to add:  Not that it shouldn't be an option.  Options are always good.  But it all depends on if they're planning more games even after the possible next DA game and if they can incorporate multiple endings.



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Hands up anyone who played Planescape: Torment in the past.   If you did then you may know what I am getting at; if not a brief explanation. (If you still think you might play it then Spoiler Alert)

 

To my mind this is still one of the best, if not the best fantasy game I have played.    It does not have a happy ending but it does have a hopeful one.    Basically the main character is someone who has been trying to avoid being damned for their past actions and this has only created more problems for them and others, particularly as they don't know who they are or what they did.    At the end one of the options is to accept your fate and head off into the fields of the damned.   However, one of the two ladies that have a thing for you promises to follow on and find you.  

 

So it occurs to me that redeeming Solas might have him seeing the error of his ways and voluntarily heading off into the depths of the Fade, with his lady love being given the option of following him.

 

I live in deep regret for not having played  Planescape: Torment.
I was into Baldurs Gate and the whole stuff  and every one was telling me to give it a try but somehow I never managed to do so.

It really bugs me. Guess I have to do some homework on this. Thanks for the reminder.



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I agree with those of you who do not think Solas will literally die - I think in a sense it is much worse. If he, like we have theorized, is originally a spirit given form then killing so many innocents might "turn" him in a similar way as Justice was turned into Vengeance. Solas (like Justice) would for all intent and purposes be dead, and instead we would have something else. I would hate to have a romanced Lavellan meet him in that shape, so I dearly hope that it will be avoidable if indeed this is what will happen!  :(


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