Speaking of screen shots, I was taking screens during Fade scene. Can anyone tell me what is going on with Solas' eyes here? ![]()
I think he was smoking elf root.
Speaking of screen shots, I was taking screens during Fade scene. Can anyone tell me what is going on with Solas' eyes here?
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I think he was smoking elf root.
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I think he's entranced by your Lavellan's fantastic hair.
Speaking of screen shots, I was taking screens during Fade scene. Can anyone tell me what is going on with Solas' eyes here?
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I think he was smoking elf root.
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I just did a laugh snort thing. Solas inspires people.
Speaking of screen shots, I was taking screens during Fade scene. Can anyone tell me what is going on with Solas' eyes here?
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I think he was smoking elf root.
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Another art post. ![]()
Gorgeous artwork of Lavellan kissing the giant form of the Dread Wolf.
Adorable sketch of Lavellan being all blushy in front of Solas. ![]()
A lovely Solavellan birthday art for just-dread-wolfing over at Tumblr. ![]()
Sketch of Solas in a sweater.
Lastly, not Solas but a great artwork of Zevran in his Crow armor by nanananananablr. ![]()
Happy birthday, Illyria! ![]()
Hands up anyone who played Planescape: Torment in the past. If you did then you may know what I am getting at; if not a brief explanation. (If you still think you might play it then Spoiler Alert)
To my mind this is still one of the best, if not the best fantasy game I have played. It does not have a happy ending but it does have a hopeful one. Basically the main character is someone who has been trying to avoid being damned for their past actions and this has only created more problems for them and others, particularly as they don't know who they are or what they did. At the end one of the options is to accept your fate and head off into the fields of the damned. However, one of the two ladies that have a thing for you promises to follow on and find you.
So it occurs to me that redeeming Solas might have him seeing the error of his ways and voluntarily heading off into the depths of the Fade, with his lady love being given the option of following him.
Oh no! You said the magic words!! Planescape Torment ![]()
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But on the note of Solas' fate, I do agree with that being one of the choices if there is a sad/tragic option. I like having those choices where your character says F it! and does what they want. Be it dying for them, in their place, or saying 'NOPE!' and sticking with them.
Guys: this is a werid coincidence.
The day I was born happens to fall on the same day as my birthday! Who would've thought it.
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I agree with those of you who do not think Solas will literally die - I think in a sense it is much worse. If he, like we have theorized, is originally a spirit given form then killing so many innocents might "turn" him in a similar way as Justice was turned into Vengeance. Solas (like Justice) would for all intent and purposes be dead, and instead we would have something else. I would hate to have a romanced Lavellan meet him in that shape, so I dearly hope that it will be avoidable if indeed this is what will happen!
I really, really hope that would not happen, if only because I see Solas as better than a simple spirit that can be turned against his will. It would go against everything that Bioware have written him to be. Even if they plan to make him an antagonist for DA4, I hope he retains enough of his unique personality that has made people love/hate him so much.
Post game (after Corypheus but before Trespasser) if you talk to Cole and where he speaks with Solas words - there is something that is always bothering me.
Solas says that he would not wish his fate on an enemy and much less on someone he "once" cared for. It is the "once" that is bothering me. Like whatever is going to happen to Solas as he says he must walk in solitude forever but he will stop caring? I mean why would he stop caring about Cole or Lavellan? I think whatever he is planning might change him. But I hope we can save him.
But on the note of Solas' fate, I do agree with that being one of the choices if there is a sad/tragic option. I like having those choices where your character says F it! and does what they want. Be it dying for them, in their place, or saying 'NOPE!' and sticking with them.
Funny how I took this choice not as tragic, but as a "happy ending" option
Solas does peculiar things to my perception of fluff.
Funny how I took this choice not as tragic, but as a "happy ending" option
Solas does peculiar things to my perception of fluff.
Lol I do too if there isn't a "We ride into the sunset/Fade together" or "we watch the world burn together". But commonly people think of those options as tragic ![]()
Plus those are technically a selfish choice when you think about it, which I love! I mean, the character is putting their own happiness before others, they are not choosing to be self righteous or self sacrificing. People will feel guilt, remorse, etc when they kill/die for them.
Random Solas screenshots
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http://wyntersosltic...e/56896623&qo=1
http://wyntersosltic...e/56896623&qo=0
Post game (after Corypheus but before Trespasser) if you talk to Cole and where he speaks with Solas words - there is something that is always bothering me.
Solas says that he would not wish his fate on an enemy and much less on someone he "once" cared for. It is the "once" that is bothering me. Like whatever is going to happen to Solas as he says he must walk in solitude forever but he will stop caring? I mean why would he stop caring about Cole or Lavellan? I think whatever he is planning might change him. But I hope we can save him.
I figured it was just Solas being his usual fatalistic self. He clearly still DOES care about Lavellan in Trespasser; he's completely ditched the pretense of calling her "Inquisitor," and he's in a lot of pain. He might have also phrased it that way to dissuade Cole from helping.
Not that it seems to work. Solas may have erased the specific knowledge of his plans, but by Trespasser, sweet cinnamon roll's right back to lines like "Solas isn't that kind of wolf," and it's implied that spirit!Cole goes back into the Fade to try and help.
Post game (after Corypheus but before Trespasser) if you talk to Cole and where he speaks with Solas words - there is something that is always bothering me.
Solas says that he would not wish his fate on an enemy and much less on someone he "once" cared for. It is the "once" that is bothering me. Like whatever is going to happen to Solas as he says he must walk in solitude forever but he will stop caring? I mean why would he stop caring about Cole or Lavellan? I think whatever he is planning might change him. But I hope we can save him.
If he's going to forget himself, or do something that will warp who he was then yes - he may stop caring. He also says to romanced Lavellan "what we HAD was real", even though he doesn't really hide his feelings towards her at the end of Trespasser. IMO at this point it's his way to distance himself from everyone.
Post game (after Corypheus but before Trespasser) if you talk to Cole and where he speaks with Solas words - there is something that is always bothering me.
Solas says that he would not wish his fate on an enemy and much less on someone he "once" cared for. It is the "once" that is bothering me. Like whatever is going to happen to Solas as he says he must walk in solitude forever but he will stop caring? I mean why would he stop caring about Cole or Lavellan? I think whatever he is planning might change him. But I hope we can save him.
Hmm, I did not notice that before. That... is incredibly ominous. It is reprised in Trespasser too, where he says to Lavellan that he would not have her see what he becomes.
It does sound like he will change somewhat in DA4, perhaps that is an inevitable part of him becoming an antagonist. I hope we can save him too. And I hope that, for the players who choose not to save him, what he becomes is not completely unrecognisable from the Solas we know.
Hmm, I did not notice that before. That... is incredibly ominous. It is reprised in Trespasser too, where he says to Lavellan that he would not have her see what he becomes.
It does sound like he will change somewhat in DA4, perhaps that is an inevitable part of him becoming an antagonist. I hope we can save him too. And I hope that, for the players who choose not to save him, what he becomes is not completely unrecognisable from the Solas we know.
Well, spirit!Cole states directly in one of his cryptic comments that "someone is hurting. He needs me to remember who he is." so I assume that this is what's going to happen: Solas will reach a point that will utterly break him (there has to be a reason why his main theme is called "Dark Solas"... lol, I still can't stop laughing about it
), though I assume that proper actions in DA4 will allow us to get him from that brink.
I love how hilariously uncomfortable future Solas looks! Hehehe, poor man, though his alternate self needs no pity.
Well, spirit!Cole states directly in one of his cryptic comments that "someone is hurting. He needs me to remember who he is." so I assume that this is what's going to happen: Solas will reach a point that will utterly break him (there has to be a reason why his main theme is called "Dark Solas"... lol, I still can't stop laughing about it
), though I assume that proper actions in DA4 will allow us to get him from that brink.
Dark Solas? Are you referring to the discussions about fanfic dark Solas? I had to do a search on that one.
Actually in searching this thread about "dark solas", I came across one of Sable Rhapsody's post that happens to be about this (I hope she doesn't mind my putting it here):
"We see it in low-approval quizzy's dialogues with him, in his banters with Vivienne, in some of his dialogue at the Winter Palace. Fen'Harel is just Solas when he's stopped giving a f*** about people. That's it. His personality doesn't do a complete 180. He doesn't turn into a snarling beast. He just ceases to care, and IMO that's both more interesting and more chilling."
So Fen'Harel in DA4.... I can't see him not caring about Lavellan, ever. Even after 2 years as Fen'Harel, he obviously still loves her. So perhaps a romanced or high approval Inquisitor will be the link to the Solas he used to be. And Cole! Can't wait to see Cole in DA4 again!
Dark Solas? Are you referring to the discussions about fanfic dark Solas? I had to do a search on that one.
No, the actual, official theme for Dread Wolf/Solas (the music that plays during the battle before we meet him and when we meet him, even if somewhat differently arranged) we can get on the recently released soundtrack is literally called Dark Solas. IMO that's hilarious ![]()
Actually in searching this thread about "dark solas", I came across one of Sable Rhapsody's post that happens to be about this (I hope she doesn't mind my putting it here):
"We see it in low-approval quizzy's dialogues with him, in his banters with Vivienne, in some of his dialogue at the Winter Palace. Fen'Harel is just Solas when he's stopped giving a f*** about people. That's it. His personality doesn't do a complete 180. He doesn't turn into a snarling beast. He just ceases to care, and IMO that's both more interesting and more chilling."So Fen'Harel in DA4.... I can't see him not caring about Lavellan, ever. Even after 2 years as Fen'Harel, he obviously still loves her. So perhaps a romanced or high approval Inquisitor will be the link to the Solas he used to be. And Cole! Can't wait to see Cole in DA4 again!
Well, we have no idea what we'd be able to decide and how our decisions will push events or characters in DA4 (or how our DA3 choices will influence DA4 ones), but at this point I optimistically assume we can make enough bad decisions that even friends/lovers can steer him on the wrong path, but there will be a way to make him keep his head above the surface.
However, we don't really know what Solas is planning to do and how this will warp him, though I assume that whatever he has prepared for himself - or he has to do to himself in order to put his plan into action or live with consequences of destroying yet another world - he fully expect to destroy him in some way at the end. He walks the din'anshiral after all.
This doesn't mean that the difference would have to be extreme (though I assume with all the ancient powers and magic, the difference may as well be more stark) - just look at Leliana, who in many ways has a similar arc to Solas. We can either soften her or fail from pulling her from the path that basically turns her into Marjolane; and if we do manage to pull her away, at the end of her quest she says "I almost lost myself"... Solas, sadly, may yet lose himself in a similar fashion - just like he was pretty much losing himself in TME, which prompted him to killing Felassan. He was given a chance to recover during Inquisition, especially if Inquisitor becomes his friend/lover, but it will be events of DA4 that likely will decide whether he'd remember who he is or lose himself to his duty and guilt.
So Fen'Harel in DA4.... I can't see him not caring about Lavellan, ever. Even after 2 years as Fen'Harel, he obviously still loves her. So perhaps a romanced or high approval Inquisitor will be the link to the Solas he used to be. And Cole! Can't wait to see Cole in DA4 again!
The idea that he will become the monster that some see him to be based on their actions towards him and the resulting low approval is interesting, isn't it? But I still don't want it to be a case of a beloved Inquisitor, whether friend or romance, being the Unique Special Snowflake that changes his mind. He really does need to do that for himself for it to matter, or at least, explain to us waaaay better why what he is doing is necessary.
Though now that I think of it, the whole redemption thing is strange. What exactly is it about? He screwed up by letting Corypheus have the orb, but that's kind of old news in the sight of tearing down the Veil. We can't "redeem" Solas for intending to tear down the Veil. Stop him or change his mind, providing there isn't a bigger nasty lurking somewhere that requires its destruction, sure... but...? The wording of "redeem Solas" is just odd to me these days.
This half-coherent ramble brought to you by not enough sleep and way too much coffee. ![]()
The idea that he will become the monster that some see him to be based on their actions towards him and the resulting low approval is interesting, isn't it? But I still don't want it to be a case of a beloved Inquisitor, whether friend or romance, being the Unique Special Snowflake that changes his mind. He really does need to do that for himself for it to matter, or at least, explain to us waaaay better why what he is doing is necessary.
We've had characters in need of apparently 'saving' from dark paths before. Anders comes to mind. Friendship with the PC made him sadder about losing hold of himself, while rivalry made him angry, but the result was the same either way.
Hopefully Solas will have more options in the end, but Bioware do seem big on uncomfortable consequences. Unless you're the developer's pet (I'm looking at you Leliana and Liara,) bad decisions lead to bad endings and Solas has made some pretty bad decisions. I fear the quizzy's best attempts will not be enough.
And apparently grim fatalism is contagious. I need to go back to team optimism.
The idea that he will become the monster that some see him to be based on their actions towards him and the resulting low approval is interesting, isn't it? But I still don't want it to be a case of a beloved Inquisitor, whether friend or romance, being the Unique Special Snowflake that changes his mind. He really does need to do that for himself for it to matter, or at least, explain to us waaaay better why what he is doing is necessary.
Though now that I think of it, the whole redemption thing is strange. What exactly is it about? He screwed up by letting Corypheus have the orb, but that's kind of old news in the sight of tearing down the Veil. We can't "redeem" Solas for intending to tear down the Veil. Stop him or change his mind, providing there isn't a bigger nasty lurking somewhere that requires its destruction, sure... but...? The wording of "redeem Solas" is just odd to me these days.
This half-coherent ramble brought to you by not enough sleep and way too much coffee.
I think redeeming him may mean him accepting that not everything he's done over millenias - and especially creation of the Veil - were all complete failures and not all his mistakes were mistakes or had catastrophic results; that there's a way for the world to continue - to be given a chance, instead of being scrapped and remade. Even if at the end Thedas would have to change in some significant way, it won't have to be utterly destroyed in order for life - and possibly elves as they were, or close to it - to eventually thrive as things come into balance.
That is what I think redemption for Solas is - a redemption for the past and not the future deeds; from a perception that he can only make mistakes and they're dire and countless. After all, the whole 'elves restoration and Veil tearing' project in a way seems like a punishment Solas inflicts on himself, as much as it's his perceived duty.
After all, the friend!Inquisitor even states "Solas, I will prove to you that you don't have to destroy this world" and Solas responds that he looks forward to it. That would perhaps make him finally 'accept the blood' in order to heal, like he commended Blackwal for after the reveal... I mean, technically he accepts it, but in a very destructive fashion that will doom him. He obviously didn't accept what his actions turned Thedas to - he has good reasons to not accept it, but it's our scruffy future team's job to likely show him this world - and his actions, and life - have value and don't only bring destruction.
Oh my! That first Russian comic.
And that second one is just hilarious.
EDIT: Top Solas.
Here's a shot of Solas' beautiful lips by solas-an.
I don't know if it was just for me, but Solas-an pmed me and asked not to post her screenshots here. :/
I wanted to respect her wishes and let you guys know. They are so lovely though...
I have lots of my own to share but they're not nearly as high-quality. ![]()