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Well, I COULD do work.  Or I could write grad AU  :)

 

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Well, I COULD do work.  Or I could write grad AU  :)

 

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I could do work. Or I could read grad AU :D 

 

Whoa, what is she going to do next  :rolleyes:


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So..I'm doing the dishes and listening to music. Everything is peachy. I'm dancing and I'm happy until...this song comes on.

 

Bleed To Love Her - Fleetwood Mac

 

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https://www.youtube....h?v=TwGkLg5PeXw

 

 

I start crying. Damn you, Solas!!  :crying:



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I could do work. Or I could read grad AU :D

 

Whoa, what is she going to do next  :rolleyes:

 

Um, poke him in the eye.  DUH  :lol:

 

(I'm such an obvious and trope-y writer  :rolleyes:)


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Um, poke him in the eye.  DUH  :lol:

 

(I'm such an obvious and trope-y writer  :rolleyes:)

 

Oh, that? I thought she was trying to pickpocket him. But then again, that's a stupid guess, it's grad school AU, so his wallet is probably full of cobwebs :lol:

 

No, no, no, it's great, I LOVE it! And even if it were trope-y, I LOVE trope-y. The reason tropes exist is because they work. 


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Art

 

Concept art Solas tarot card

http://ioana-muresan...-Wolf-575433785

 

The Moon tarot card (I don't understand this one. It looks like the Norse Goddess Hel and Solas)

http://ioana-muresan...-Moon-575433814

 

Art for fanfic "In Another Wold, Vhenan"

http://demonlife.dev...henan-575422850

 

In My Dreams comic

http://delew.deviant...reams-575397023

 

 

Cute Chibi Fenris

http://omegasama.dev...Chibi-575382254


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Oh, that? I thought she was trying to pickpocket him. But then again, that's a stupid guess, it's grad school AU, so his wallet is probably full of cobwebs :lol:

 

No, no, no, it's great, I LOVE it! And even if it were trope-y, I LOVE trope-y. The reason tropes exist is because they work. 

 

I headcanon that grad!Solas's wallet is full of those little tear-off slips of paper that get attached to billboards on university campuses.  For everything from research studies to free seminars to cheap furniture.  And they're all neatly folded and organized because he's weird and actually remembers to attend and follow up on things  :P


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I'm up to Trespasser on my Trevelyan and am avoiding it. If I finish I'd have an excuse to make a Dwarf or a male Lavellan..

 

:?....


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Oh and what are these?

 

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They're remind me of swirly-tummy statue with the strange limbs.


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The idea that he will become the monster that some see him to be based on their actions towards him and the resulting low approval is interesting, isn't it? But I still don't want it to be a case of a beloved Inquisitor, whether friend or romance, being the Unique Special Snowflake that changes his mind. He really does need to do that for himself for it to matter, or at least, explain to us waaaay better why what he is doing is necessary.

 

Though now that I think of it, the whole redemption thing is strange. What exactly is it about? He screwed up by letting Corypheus have the orb, but that's kind of old news in the sight of tearing down the Veil. We can't "redeem" Solas for intending to tear down the Veil. Stop him or change his mind, providing there isn't a bigger nasty lurking somewhere that requires its destruction, sure... but...? The wording of "redeem Solas" is just odd to me these days.

 

This half-coherent ramble brought to you by not enough sleep and way too much coffee. <_<

 

Not that I want Lavellan to be a Special Snowflake, but in a way she is, because she is the one person in current Thedas who is his friend (aside from Cole, who is a spirit anyway). So even if she may not be the one to change his mind, she would be the catalyst and the one who reminds Fen'Harel that he is Solas still, wouldn't she?

 

I like midnight tea's view of redemption, but I think also that we can redeem him in the sense of saving him from his current path. In Trespasser he has already started on his plans to bring down the Veil, and we can see that he is already Fen'harel there, though perhaps not fully yet... whatever it is Bioware have planned for the climax of DA4.



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Oh and what are these?

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They're remind me of swirly-tummy statue with the strange limbs.

 

Lawn Art.  Or perhaps paperweights for the wildly insecure? 


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Lawn Art.  Or perhaps paperweights for the wildly insecure? 

 

I just tried to sit like one of them.

..It wasn't easy.


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Lawn Art.  Or perhaps paperweights for the wildly insecure? 

 

They look like me, biting my nails, just before the deadline for something I had to do, but procrastinated for to long >.>'''


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Side note: Since AC Unity keeps crashing my computer (and by extension my browser), and since I've never gotten around to closing the clan name generator page, I now have a "Daily Clan Name" thing going on.

 

....Sometimes an hourly thing, actually.

 

Regardless! Today's clan name: "Worthless Butchers"

 

Because butchering should be a pointless activity.


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I headcanon that grad!Solas's wallet is full of those little tear-off slips of paper that get attached to billboards on university campuses. For everything from research studies to free seminars to cheap furniture. And they're all neatly folded and organized because he's weird and actually remembers to attend and follow up on things :P


Your headcanons are beautiful. <3

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 He obviously didn't accept what his actions turned Thedas to - he has good reasons to not accept it, but it's our scruffy future team's job to likely show him this world - and his actions, and life - have value and don't only bring destruction.

 

You know, sorry if this seems like a tangential rant on Elder Scrolls lore, but one thing I've always appreciated about Mehrunes Dagon is that one of his sphere's of influence is revolution. And you probably wouldn't know it, what with him just being the generic "devil" figure constantly trying to destroy everything, but it's something that's always stuck with me, and how pretty much the entirety of existence in ES is born out of the struggle between order and chaos.

 

I think it shows this interesting connection between destruction and change and renewal - I mean, Dagon's a pretty bad dude, and chaos and destruction are generally considered to be evil... but revolution is typically regarded as good. And we know that Solas is, more-or-less, the god of revolution himself. Not in the way Dagon is, he's not a literal embodiment of it, but it's what he's remembered for, (and it's interesting how time and legend have twisted him into a figure that's an awful lot like Dagon - an adversary, an agent of mindless and malicious destruction) But here's the thing about revolution - it's inherently destructive. It's tearing something down. Something that deserves to be torn down, usually, but it's still a bloody process by nature. It's just a specific sort of destruction.

 

But it's a destruction that allows something new - and maybe something better - to spring up in it's place. Which (finally) gets me to the point I'm trying to make - chaos and destruction are not always bad things. It has it's downsides, like everything does, but it allows change, and change allows improvement. Like how some types of seeds only germinate after forest fires - just because Solas has wrought destruction, doesn't mean it's entirely negative. Doesn't mean his actions only have bad consequences. His Veil may have destroyed Elvhenan, but Thedas would've never existed if he hadn't. You have to get rid of a status quo to build one better. You have to burn the forest down to let the new seeds grow. Even that Dalish practice of planting a tree over a grave - it all goes back to the idea that good things can come from destruction. Sometimes it's needed. Sometimes it's justified.

 

...Of course, one could also use that philosophy to justify his actions now, so, kinda an issue there. But... I guess my point is that, even if Solas is doomed to only destroy, he can still do good. Destruction's not always without value itself, if it's targeted and carefully considered... I dunno, it was just a random thought. Sorry if I sound like I'm rambling about obvious and/or boring stuff.

 

(Also - work? Why would I be doing any work? Nah, ranting about video games on the internet is much more important.)



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Your headcanons are beautiful.  <3

 
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It's easy when IRL does a lot of the inspiration for me :P  I had a political philosophy TA who forms the basis for grad!Solas's habits and mannerisms.
 
 

You know, sorry if this seems like a tangential rant on Elder Scrolls lore, but one thing I've always appreciated about Mehrunes Dagon is that one of his sphere's of influence is revolution. And you probably wouldn't know it, what with him just being the generic "devil" figure constantly trying to destroy everything, but it's something that's always stuck with me, and how pretty much the entirety of existence in ES is born out of the struggle between order and chaos.
 
I think it shows this interesting connection between destruction and change and renewal - I mean, Dagon's a pretty bad dude, and chaos and destruction are generally considered to be evil... but revolution is typically regarded as good. And we know that Solas is, more-or-less, the god of revolution himself. Not in the way Dagon is, he's not a literal embodiment of it, but it's what he's remembered for, (and it's interesting how time and legend have twisted him into a figure that's an awful lot like Dagon - an adversary, an agent of mindless and malicious destruction) But here's the thing about revolution - it's inherently destructive. It's tearing something down. Something that deserves to be torn down, usually, but it's still a bloody process by nature. It's just a specific sort of destruction.
 
But it's a destruction that allows something new - and maybe something better - to spring up in it's place. Which (finally) gets me to the point I'm trying to make - chaos and destruction are not always bad things. It has it's downsides, like everything does, but it allows change, and change allows improvement. Like how some types of seeds only germinate after forest fires - just because Solas has wrought destruction, doesn't mean it's entirely negative. Doesn't mean his actions only have bad consequences. His Veil may have destroyed Elvhenan, but Thedas would've never existed if he hadn't. You have to get rid of a status quo to build one better. You have to burn the forest down to let the new seeds grow. Even that Dalish practice of planting a tree over a grave - it all goes back to the idea that good things can come from destruction. Sometimes it's needed. Sometimes it's justified.
 
...Of course, one could also use that philosophy to justify his actions now, so, kinda an issue there. But... I guess my point is that, even if Solas is doomed to only destroy, he can still do good. Destruction's not always without value itself, if it's targeted and carefully considered... I dunno, it was just a random thought. Sorry if I sound like I'm rambling about obvious and/or boring stuff.

 

The whole "destruction can be good" thing always reminds me of the following dialogue from Anders and Merrill:
 
 

Merrill: Be careful what you believe in. A lot of things burn in that fire.
Anders: Burning isn't necessarily bad. Fire can cleanse.
Merrill: I don't think people are cleansed by fire. I used to believe in things, too. Now, I think maybe it's better just to believe in people.
Anders: People make mistakes.
Merrill: That's why they need you to believe in them. If you never made mistakes, it wouldn't matter if you believed.

 
Now obviously this is Anders speaking, so it's an extreme point of view.  But he's not entirely wrong either; the Circle system had fundamental, systemic flaws in it, and one potential solution in DA:I is to torch the thing and start over.  And vis-a-vis the Chantry as a whole, the most radical option of Leliana as Divine is presented as a legitimate approach to the Chantry's problems.  For all that the DA games generally enforce the status quo, they do occasionally allow the player to say, "F*** it, let's try again."
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I don't know if it was just for me, but Solas-an pmed me and asked not to post her screenshots here. :/

I wanted to respect her wishes and let you guys know. They are so lovely though...

 

Noted. It's a shame though. Her stuff is really great. :(


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 The whole "destruction can be good" thing always reminds me of the following dialogue from Anders and Merrill:
 
Now obviously this is Anders speaking, so it's an extreme point of view.  But he's not entirely wrong either; the Circle system had fundamental, systemic flaws in it, and one potential solution in DA:I is to torch the thing and start over.  And vis-a-vis the Chantry as a whole, the most radical option of Leliana as Divine is presented as a legitimate approach to the Chantry's problems.  For all that the DA games generally enforce the status quo, they do occasionally allow the player to say, "F*** it, let's try again."

 

Well, let's face it, the Inquisition itself was jump-started by the explosion at the Conclave, which basically began the process of unification (no matter how temporary) of people of southern parts of Thedas against an unknown threat. In that regard, it was a catalyst for what may yet be a change for the better... Heh, Cory - the unwitting savior of the world! I can't help but to love how hilariously ironic that is - kudos Bioware :lol:

 

 

Anyway - change is oftentimes violent and destruction is sometimes necessary - and I think Solas has accepted that long before he formed the Veil. Heck, he definitely accepts it now. 

 

He had led a rebellion against immortal mage-kings and didn't hide the fact that he got his hands bloodied in the process (and who knows if he fought in the war that led to the rise of the Evanuris - and if he did, what he's done then); even the creation of the Veil came with destruction he must have accepted - the thing he did not expect was probably the diminished state of people living in the Veiled world and the fact that over the millennia they didn't really grow as much as mostly warred with one another, oppressed various groups and forgot entirely about their connection to the Fade; and what they remember or are aware of they fear or exploit to hurt others. That I think hurts him the most. The life didn't get better - not at this stage at least. He doesn't seem to trust Thedas in a shape it is to move on and he thinks it's predominantly his fault.

 

I bet that he wants to take down the Veil since it was a problem he's created - his direct mistake - and later just remove himself from the world, so it would never be hurt by his perceived failures ever again :(

 

Uh, this reminds me of the saddest dialogue between Cole and Dorian and I can't help to think that it parallels what Solas thinks of himself as well:
 

Cole: I'm hurting you, Dorian. Words winding, wanting, wounding. You said I could ask.
Dorian: I know I did. The things you ask are just... very personal.
Cole: But it hurts. I want to help, but it's all tangled with the love, I can't tug it loose without tearing it.
Cole: You hold him so tightly. You let it keep hurting, because you think hurting is who you are. Why would you do that?
 
....I suspect this is also why he tells Cole him dumping Lavellan is a hurt Cole can't heal.

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Art post. Some of these were already shared by NightSymphony earlier but if ever you want the Tumblr link versions... :P

 

Fen'Harel Tarot Card: The White Wolf and Solavellan tarot card: The Moon (Warning for blood and body horror)

 

Of Butts & Tea, Part 1. :lol:

 

Sweet artwork of Solas and Lavellan kissing.  :wub:

 

Solas.

 

Blushing Solas.

 

Another blushing Solas. :P

 

And a third blushing Solas. :D

 

Tarot card of Solas, Lavellan, and Abelas.

 

Solas and Fenris Star Wars crossover? :lol: (Poor Fenris)


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You know, sorry if this seems like a tangential rant on Elder Scrolls lore, but one thing I've always appreciated about Mehrunes Dagon is that one of his sphere's of influence is revolution.

*snip*

 

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I am sorry, I simply could not resist. :ph34r:

 

*cough* On a more serious note, I have always enjoyed the analysis of destruction/renewal. I think perhaps at the core of it, destruction is viewed as evil where revolution is not because destruction by itself or for itself is an expression of entropy, while revolution is destruction with a purpose. Destruction is an inherent and inextricable part of nature, so we are forced to accept it not just with eyes of horror because of what we lose, but with the hope of seeing what could be as a result of the old being removed.

 

I'm a believer in gray - everything has multiple sides to it, good can be found in most expressions of evil (except for the archetypal essence) and vice versa. Everything is balanced morally based on its context and the subjective context of the observer. Revolutions can be terrible and incredibly bloody - the question is, is it worth the price and who is the victor?


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*cough* On a more serious note, I have always enjoyed the analysis of destruction/renewal. I think perhaps at the core of it, destruction is viewed as evil where revolution is not because destruction by itself or for itself is an expression of entropy, while revolution is destruction with a purpose. Destruction is an inherent and inextricable part of nature, so we are forced to accept it not just with eyes of horror because of what we lose, but with the hope of seeing what could be as a result of the old being removed.

 

Even Pokemon gets in on this trope with Yveltal and Xerneas.  And for how little plot the games have, IMO they did a pretty good job of describing the necessity of destruction, and the balance of the two.  It doesn't hurt that the giant laser vampire phoenix of destruction is, in fact, the cutest thing who loves head scritches:

 

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I don't know if this has been posted here before, but I really like this picture.

The style is breathtaking and the dominance Solas is showing while the shadowy shape of the wolf is surrounding him.. nicely done.

 

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One of my very favourite pics of Solas!

 

Also, ch12 of my Bookkeeper drabble is out in the open...if you feel bored. :P

 

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SOmeone was drawing Lavellans? :P I wouldn't mind a take on my warrior :)

 

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Ah yes, ofc I'll get first with this. Here, quick sift through my screens :D

 

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Even Pokemon gets in on this trope with Yveltal and Xerneas.  And for how little plot the games have, IMO they did a pretty good job of describing the necessity of destruction, and the balance of the two.  It doesn't hurt that the giant laser vampire phoenix of destruction is, in fact, the cutest thing who loves head scritches:

 

m6EejV0.png

 

Hahahahaha I laughed so hard at this. :D


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I don't know if it was just for me, but Solas-an pmed me and asked not to post her screenshots here. :/

I wanted to respect her wishes and let you guys know. They are so lovely though...

 

I have lots of my own to share but they're not nearly as high-quality. :P

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No, I've seen a few others say the same, so we should end reposting her screens, as nice as they are. Maybe link to the post if anything.
 


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