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Erm... When Solas left the Inquisition at the end of my playthrough, I still had a bunch of rifts left to close. I assume it's the same for other ppl too. He's not gonna take your anchor when you still need it to close those rifts.

Then that thing with Mythal happened where he takes her power. If you bring Cole with you towards the end of Trespasser, he calls out, upon seeing Solas:

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That's my take anyway.


That's an interesting idea about Solas being stuck in that place.

But that line Cole said is very likely to be about the giant Saarebas we had to fight and the Vidassala. Qunari Saarebas are bound in some way to their overseers.
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:P  Sometimes I wonder if I'm part of a tiny minority that gleefully throws their PC headlong into angst. I have a hard time not playing the Solasmance, not just because I like it so much, but because it just feels too easy with everyone else. It's just... flirt, kiss, fall in love, maybe get married, aaand you're done. Happy ending. Congratulations. Throw your LI over your shoulder (Eh, maybe not if you romanced Bull) hop onto that shining steed and ride off into the sunset together. You win, easily and without (any serious) trouble. 

 

I remember a few weeks back I was talking on another forum with a guy who romanced Dorian. And he said that he was happy the Inquisitor lost their arm in Trespasser, because otherwise they wouldn't have lost anything during their entire journey. And I was just sitting there like "My Inquisitor had her faith completely dismantled, her boyfriend dump her in a field, and then, two years later, found out that same boyfriend's an immortal god bent on destroying her world. Bullshit she didn't lose anything." But it put things in perspective for me, how without the Solasmance, Inquisition's a pretty easy ride. Which I guess appeals to some people, but to me that's just... boring.

 

It's the same reason I can't finish an Origins playthrough where I romance Leliana or Zevran - things are so easy with them, when there's such fascinating drama to be had from romancing Alistair or Morrigan. I guess I just love to make my PCs suffer.   :\

 

EDIT: ^ Ah, well, there we are then.

 

I'm probably one of those people who is drawn to drama as well. My canon romances were Alistair (with a Dalish elf who kept him as a Warden), Anders, and Solas. I guess I could've saved my sanity by romancing one of the "safer" romance options but then that would be a bit boring. :P

 

Personally, if he looked like that, I probably wouldn't have wanted to romance him at all. Not my type, but then..neither are bald men. :-P I am very happy with the way Solas looks and very glad he's not overly handsome or sexy like Zevran. This version reminds me of Zev way too much.

 

If Solas looked like that, I guess I still would've romanced him anyway. Bald men weren't my type either but it was his intelligence and personality (and sexy voice) that got me attracted to him.

 

I guess what irks me is this attitude that people would totally romance him if he LOOKED a certain way; never mind his personality, intelligence, and interesting backstory.  -_-


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Erm... When Solas left the Inquisition at the end of my playthrough, I still had a bunch of rifts left to close. I assume it's the same for other ppl too. He's not gonna take your anchor when you still need it to close those rifts.

Then that thing with Mythal happened where he takes her power. If you bring Cole with you towards the end of Trespasser, he calls out, upon seeing Solas:

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That's my take anyway.

I imagined that without his Foci he needed to find another way to remove the anchor. Just because Corypheus couldn't remove it didn't mean Solas wouldn't know how to use 'his orb to remove it.

 

I also think there were still areas where rifts needed closed still, and he is looking for a way to gain enough magic to remove the mark and fulfill his goals. I don't see him as toying with her. He's genuinely afraid that once she knows who he is she will hate him like everyone else.



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That's an interesting idea about Solas being stuck in that place.
But that line Cole said is very likely to be about the giant Saarebas we had to fight and the Vidassala. Qunari Saarebas are bound in some way to their overseers.


Oh, I didn't know that. You may be right. It's just that Cole says it just as you catch a glimpse of Solas, so I thought it was about him.

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The only way I wouldn't romance Solas is if he had a beard. I'm serious, for some reason facial hair is simply not my thing. Sorry, Blackwall.
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Oh, I didn't know that. You may be right. It's just that Cole says it just as you catch a glimpse of Solas, so I thought it was about him.


It could as well have a double meaning.

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The only way I wouldn't romance Solas is if he had a beard. I'm serious, for some reason facial hair is simply not my thing. Sorry, Blackwall.

lol. Yeah, I just can't bring myself to try Blackwall's romance. It's the beard! I installed the mod that removes his beard but it was just too weird seeing him without it I had to remove the mod.


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I imagined that without his Foci he needed to find another way to remove the anchor. Just because Corypheus couldn't remove it didn't mean Solas wouldn't know how to use 'his orb to remove it.
 
I also think there were still areas where rifts needed closed still, and he is looking for a way to gain enough magic to remove the mark and fulfill his goals. I don't see him as toying with her. He's genuinely afraid that once she knows who he is she will hate him like everyone else.


Yeah, he also confirmed that he did not sleep with the Inquisitor because he "would not lay with [her] under false pretenses." If he was just playing her, that wouldn't have mattered to him, right?
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Oh, I didn't know that. You may be right. It's just that Cole says it just as you catch a glimpse of Solas, so I thought it was about him.

 

 

It could as well have a double meaning.

The line is still said whether it's a female Lavellan or not, so it pretty much has to be about the Viddasala and the Serebaas.


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The only way I wouldn't romance Solas is if he had a beard. I'm serious, for some reason facial hair is simply not my thing. Sorry, Blackwall.

 

Agreed. In my book no hair is miles better than too much hair :P One of my Inkys may romance Blackwall someday, but probably only after I mod his looks >D (which I usually don't do, but, uh... SO MUCH HAIR!)


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lol. Yeah, I just can't bring myself to try Blackwall's romance. It's the beard! I installed the mod that removes his beard but it was just too weird seeing him without it I had to remove the mod.


I play on PS4 so no mods. I've watched the BW romance and he's really sweet, there's also some angst to keep me interested. But even if I could mod him, it doesn't feel like he's himself without that beard. I guess it just wasn't meant to be.
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The line is still said whether it's a female Lavellan or not, so it pretty much has to be about the Viddasala and the Serebaas.


If it's about Solas and Mythal, as I initially assumed, it wouldn't matter if the inquisitor is female or not, since it's not about her.
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Yeah, he also confirmed that he did not sleep with the Inquisitor because he "would not lay with [her] under false pretenses." If he was just playing her, that wouldn't have mattered to him, right?

Weekes said on Twitter that that line can be interpreted either way - that they did sleep together and that Solas does love her, and it wasn't part of a ruse to take advantage, or he didn't because there was a lot he wasn't telling her. It's all up to your personal preference, since it wasn't explicit in the game.


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If it's about Solas and Mythal, as I initially assumed, it wouldn't matter if the inquisitor is female or not, since it's not about her.

Oh sorry, I didn't see the part that was under the cut. :P Mythal was dead and Sarebaas have to be close to the person who has their leash - the arvaarad, so Mythal didn't even occur to me.



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^^ :ph34r: 'd

Have more high off his rocker Solas.

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The only way I wouldn't romance Solas is if he had a beard. I'm serious, for some reason facial hair is simply not my thing. Sorry, Blackwall.

 


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Weekes said on Twitter that that line can be interpreted either way - that they did sleep together and that Solas does love her, and it wasn't part of a ruse to take advantage, or he didn't because there was a lot he wasn't telling her. It's all up to your personal preference, since it wasn't explicit in the game.


Ah... you mean if "take" meant like..."taken for a fool" or something like that? 'Cause in response to you saying "and so he did," he says, "I did not. I would not lay with you under false pretenses."

Meaning... no, I did not sleep with you under false pretenses.

Lol. Interesting! I hadn't considered reading it that way. Haha. Dammit Solas, why is everything with you so murky and ambiguous?

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:P  Sometimes I wonder if I'm part of a tiny minority that gleefully throws their PC headlong into angst. I have a hard time not playing the Solasmance, not just because I like it so much, but because it just feels too easy with everyone else. It's just... flirt, kiss, fall in love, maybe get married, aaand you're done. Happy ending. Congratulations. Throw your LI over your shoulder (Eh, maybe not if you romanced Bull) hop onto that shining steed and ride off into the sunset together. You win, easily and without (any serious) trouble. 

 

I remember a few weeks back I was talking on another forum with a guy who romanced Dorian. And he said that he was happy the Inquisitor lost their arm in Trespasser, because otherwise they wouldn't have lost anything during their entire journey. And I was just sitting there like "My Inquisitor had her faith completely dismantled, her boyfriend dump her in a field, and then, two years later, found out that same boyfriend's an immortal god bent on destroying her world. Bullshit she didn't lose anything." But it put things in perspective for me, how without the Solasmance, Inquisition's a pretty easy ride. Which I guess appeals to some people, but to me that's just... boring.

 

It's the same reason I can't finish an Origins playthrough where I romance Leliana or Zevran - things are so easy with them, when there's such fascinating drama to be had from romancing Alistair or Morrigan. I guess I just love to make my PCs suffer.   :\

 

EDIT: ^ Ah, well, there we are then.

 

I suppose how Inky fares depends on the perspective and perhaps some actions chosen - still, even the best of Inkys has a lot to fall on their head, ever since they've interrupted Corypheus; that with the whole being sort of forced by fate to be the savior of Thedas, no matter of personal problems or views.

If anything, even their roaring success, a circle of good friends and  love of the masses must have eventually felt like a burden, especially at the end of Trespasser - suddenly people watch at Inquisition with suspicion, they're dying from magic that elevated them into position of a demigod in the first place, friends scatter about, because life moves on and there are other things to be done, and no matter what their thoughts about the matter, the reveals in Trespasser must've shaken them at least a bit. Then there's whole Solas is the Dread Wolf reveal, which even at the very best must have been both a blessing and a curse: on one hand it gives Inkys who feel like they were spent and unwanted a new sense of purpose, on another... well, it's saving the world all over again, but this time from much more difficult and dangerous person who was once our companion.

 

Still, I can't help but to think that the game is especially vicious to Lavellans and especially Lavellans who romance Solas - last time I played mine, every time there was a romance scene I couldn't just help and think "you poor girl" :lol: And then comes Trespasser and it feels like every time they hit a bottom they find out there's another one underneath :P And with the situation with elves as it is (who are they rounded up by and to what end?), with them probably probably being endangered with new bout of hatred from others for some of them conspiring with the Qunari - never mind Solas plans - they're sort of caught between hammer and anvil. On one side they can't join Solas (either because they don't want to see world burn or he just denies her) and fight for fellow elves, on the other they have to fight for a world that may be increasingly hostile towards her :/


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Ah... you mean if "take" meant like..."taken for a fool" or something like that? 'Cause in response to you saying "and so he did," he says, "I did not. I would not lay with you under false pretenses."

Meaning... no, I did not sleep with you under false pretenses.

Lol. Interesting! I hadn't considered reading it that way. Haha. Dammit Solas, why is everything with you so murky and ambiguous?

This line is, to me, one that leans more toward that they did sleep together, though it still isn't a confirmation either way. "And so he did." She implies that they slept together, that the 'dread wolf' took her. But he says no I didn't lay with you under false pretenses, meaning I was always Solas, Dread Wolf is just a title, not unlike Inquisitor. So if they slept together it was Solas and Lavellan, not Inquisitor and the Dread Wolf"  I really love this line, it holds so much meaning for the two of them, and opens up so many discussions.

 

Whether the player takes it to mean they slept together or not, I felt like it spoke more of the respect he has for her. He didn't use her, or lie about his feelings for her.


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The only way I wouldn't romance Solas is if he had a beard. I'm serious, for some reason facial hair is simply not my thing. Sorry, Blackwall.

 

I just saw some art where the person drew Solas with stubble and it's like 'evil Spock' territory.

 

Facial hair has never been my thing but then I started dating a guy who frequently has a beard of some sort. But neither facial hair nor baldness appeal to me in general, but I also tend to just fall for people over looks in games and real life so I can never say never. But while I like Blackwall fine enough, his personality doesn't do it for me.



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I just saw some art where the person drew Solas with stubble and it's like 'evil Spock' territory.


Double shudder for breaking canon and personal turn off. But who knows, folks that find facial hair attractive should be able to enjoy their Solas to the fullest.
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I just saw some art where the person drew Solas with stubble and it's like 'evil Spock' territory.

 

Facial hair has never been my thing but then I started dating a guy who frequently has a beard of some sort. But neither facial hair nor baldness appeal to me in general, but I also tend to just fall for people over looks in games and real life so I can never say never. But while I like Blackwall fine enough, his personality doesn't do it for me.

I don't mind facial hair, it just bugs me when people draw him with it because Solas can't have a beard canonically. Elves can't grow facial hair, just like a child born from a human/elf pair can't have pointed ears, as the child will always reflect the non-elf parent. It's funny that Bioware wrote elves not to be able to have beards tho, and still give you a bunch of skins for the male elves that have visible stubble. So annoying and inconsistent.


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I don't mind facial hair, it just bugs me when people draw him with it because Solas can't have a beard canonically. Elves can't grow facial hair, just like a child born from a human/elf pair can't have pointed ears, as the child will always reflect the non-elf parent. It's funny that Bioware wrote elves not to be able to have beards tho, and still give you a bunch of skins for the male elves that have visible stubble. So annoying and inconsistent.


Let's not forget that unfortunate banter between BW and Solas about elves having beards.

There's just so much lore at this point that even some of the writers can't keep up with it all. I honestly revere David Gaider for creating so much complexity and keeping track of it somehow.

 

Edit: TOP is mine! Have Solas with a hoodie drawn by salesman for our Sunny. :)

 

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Let's not forget that unfortunate banter between BW and Solas about elves having beards.

There's just so much lore at this point that even some of the writers can't keep up with it all. I honestly revere David Gaider for creating so much complexity and keeping track of it somehow.

Yes, Patrick has lamented multiple times at his faulty grasp of the greater lore - which ends up giving us things like dwarves dreaming and bearded elves. They did patch out the banter between Solas and Blackwall though. I remember getting it every now and then, and then suddenly, nope.


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How do you think my elf sprouted his glorious moustache? :P


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