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[NightSymphony]

Speaking of Revan and KOTOR, can I put on my Xmas list to have Bioware update the game and it's sequel to run on up to date computers?  I would LOVE to play it over and over again.  

You can buy them on GOG..they work just fine.

[_Lucinia]

You can buy them on GOG..they work just fine.

Also on Steam.  Plus I think they released a patch on Steam (possibly works for GOG version as well, maybe?) for KOTOR 2 that adds the cut content and what not.  I keep meaning to download it.

[Fen'Eira]

You can buy them on GOG..they work just fine.

WHAT!!!  OMG OMG OMG....*dives onto Santa's lap*  I've been good, honest!

[Sable Rhapsody]

Between that and the less than perfect implementation of Hawke, I say be careful what you (the general 'you', not you specifically) wish for when you want protags to come back.  At this point I am of the mind that if I can not control that character, I don't want to see them again.  It just never seems to work.  So please no don't ever bring the Warden back, BioWare please!  lol

 

Very true.  My desire for dual protagonist is, of course, assuming that I get to actually roleplay both characters

[GoldenGail3]

Very true.  My desire for dual protagonist is, of course, assuming that I get to actually roleplay both characters

 

Like the Witchers?   I see your point...

[Sable Rhapsody]

Like the Witchers?   I see your point...

 

I haven't played Witcher 3 yet.  Trying to work my way through that series, but it's a bit touch and go.  I keep getting distracted by other games

[GoldenGail3]

I haven't played Witcher 3 yet.  Trying to work my way through that series, but it's a bit touch and go.  I keep getting distracted by other games

I haven't played the Witchers.... And i'm finnne with dat. 

[ladyiolanthe]

I tried playing the first Witcher, and had to stop 3-4 hours into the game. I was just so angry.  Haven't booted it up since.

[Sable Rhapsody]

I tried playing the first Witcher, and had to stop 3-4 hours into the game. I was just so angry.  Haven't booted it up since.

It has a lot of the frustrations that old-school RPGs do. And its combat system is pretty borked. I find that it's best played in stints. I am enjoying it despite my slow progress through it.

[The Smiling Bandit]

I tried playing the first Witcher, and had to stop 3-4 hours into the game. I was just so angry.  Haven't booted it up since.

That's a higher tolerance for the Witcher than I have. I clocked in 22 minutes on the first. I was so disappointed, I was told it had an interesting combat system and characters. I was lied to.

[GoldenGail3]

That's a higher tolerance for the Witcher than I have. I clocked in 22 minutes on the first. I was so disappointed, I was told it had an interesting combat system and characters. I was lied to.

Well... I like creating progies so that's why i don't play the Witchers...

[_Lucinia]

Warning:  Incoming long post about Looking Glass by Feynite.  I'm going to be considerate and put it all under a spoiler tag to not spoil it and to for those folks who just don't care to read about it.

 

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I guess I feel like I should start off by saying that up until this game I was never someone that was ever interested in fan fiction.  And there's no judgment or anything from me by saying that, for people that write it, and enjoy reading it.  It was just a facet of fandom that didn't appeal to me.  Most Solas Thread regulars already know about my Solavellan hellspirial so I don't need to bring it up again lol.  Basically I was a mess and needed an outlet for my feelings.  Fan fiction gets shared a lot in this thread, so I thought why the heck not, I'll give it a try.  And it was pretty effective at getting it all out.  I had some cries, I purged most of it, I felt better.  Despite my unintentional prejudices a lot of what I read was well written, and I am glad I dipped my toe into the pool.  Thankfully I now have a different perspective when it comes to it.

 

There are sooooo many AU time travel Fen'harel + (Slave) Lavellan stories.  Some better than others.  I'm not making a judgment on the quality of anyone's writing, because quite frankly I am no authority on writing and have no place to really criticize; plus I am not interested in hurting anyone's feelings or anything like that.  Making something and sharing it with the world is a brave thing, no matter how good or bad it is.  And every fan art, original song, fan fiction, cosplay etc enriches us all.    Get to the point Luci!  I took the long way around to say that I really didn't want to read yet another AU where Lavellan goes back in time and meets Solas in Arlathan.  Instead of picking apart other stories for what I didn't like, I'm going to explain why despite it all I really enjoyed Looking Glass.

 

The biggest thing for me was Solas.  There's no Fen'harel.  He's not suddenly this harsh and domineering, totally alien and different Solas.  The fact that he's essentially a servant was a great choice.  Also referring to him as Pride.  It really works.  Not using a name for Lavellan other than Puzzle helped as well.  It made it easy for me to accept these characters.  Luckily her characterization of Lavellan fit for my canon Inquisitor.  I could see her saying and doing a lot of the same things.  But for realsies, this less experienced, young, nervous and fumbling Solas.  How refreshing.  And there was still enough there of our Solas that I could believe that was still him, and could one day become the man we meet in game. 

 

The secondary characters were fantastic.  Compassion made me think of Cole without being a lesser stand in.  Curiosity is adorable, I love her.  The story of how Rage came to be and then how Puzzle helped him become Fortitude was beautiful, and I shed a tear or two.  The secondary characters are fleshed out so well.  They belong in this world, and I care about them.  Haninan.  Second Best Elf maybe? 

 

There's so much of what happened in the ancient times that we know nothing besides vague hints and legends.  I love how Feynite chose to fill in the blanks.  I'm not a lore expert and so many of the theories out there are so complex and detailed that it constantly blows my mind how people have put it all together.  There wasn't anything in the story that made me think about if it was plausible.  For my viewpoint and my own DA knowledge, the events of Looking Glass could very well have happened.  It was easy for me to stay immersed in the story because nothing was too outlandish to not be possible. 

 

I don't want this post to get too much longer.  But I just wanted to share some of my thoughts on Looking Glass because I feel it's an exceptional story that I could have no problem seeing on a shelf next to the other Dragon Age books.  I've been one of those folks saying that I'd love it if BioWare would put out an Arlathan style book for us.  But I am ok if we never get that now because Looking Glass, so far, has filled that spot for me. 

[_Lucinia]

I haven't played Witcher 3 yet.  Trying to work my way through that series, but it's a bit touch and go.  I keep getting distracted by other games

 

 

I tried playing the first Witcher, and had to stop 3-4 hours into the game. I was just so angry.  Haven't booted it up since.

 

 

It has a lot of the frustrations that old-school RPGs do. And its combat system is pretty borked. I find that it's best played in stints. I am enjoying it despite my slow progress through it.

 

 

That's a higher tolerance for the Witcher than I have. I clocked in 22 minutes on the first. I was so disappointed, I was told it had an interesting combat system and characters. I was lied to.

I am glad I played the first Witcher game when i did because I don't know if I would still have the patience for how outdated some of the mechanics are.  Which is a shame because the story is great.  Well I think it is anyways.  It was made using KOTOR's game engine.  And the years really haven't been kind to it.  I don't think it will ever appeal to those who like making their own characters.  I am a fan of both styles of games, so I enjoyed playing Geralt.  TW2 is a lot less clunky.  And looks so much better too lol.  I say try and stick with it.  But for some people it's just not a game for them and that is fine. 

[GoldenGail3]

I am glad I played the first Witcher game when i did because I don't know if I would still have the patience for how outdated some of the mechanics are.  Which is a shame because the story is great.  Well I think it is anyways.  It was made using KOTOR's game engine.  And the years really haven't been kind to it.  I don't think it will ever appeal to those who like making their own characters.  I am a fan of both styles of games, so I enjoyed playing Geralt.  TW2 is a lot less clunky.  And looks so much better too lol.  I say try and stick with it.  But for some people it's just not a game for them and that is fine. 

KOTOR i will play though. I love Revan (even though their all human. They have the best history ever as an epic Sith Lord). 

[paramitch]

*offering a Chai Latte and some cake*

 

 

Also a song I found if anyone needs more feels: https://youtu.be/YKWim4D27cc 

 

Thank you! The healing has begun. Eggnog is involved. And fluffy pillows. Now I just have to pull myself away from the "Trespasser" soundtrack or that certain YouTube video (the additional Dread Wolf theme) and I'll be fine. I expect that to happen... in a month or so.

 

I did like the actual mission, mostly, though I think In Hushed Whispers is better. 

 

I was happy to have done both. I loved IHW, but I felt the world-state after CotJ was more interesting.

 

In many respects Corypheus wasn't the problem - the world is a problem in a state that it is. It's divided, torn by conflicts, takes more than it gives, to a point that a threat like Cory can rise and almost succeed. It throws in monsters and despair and twists even the most enduring heroes into more or less reluctant villains, or just betrays and/or kills them: Mythal, Fen'Harel, Andraste, Inquisitor in some respects after the job was done... Practically anyone who goes against this world and tries to change it either ends being corrupted or disposed of.

 

IMO the villain isn't Corypheus - it's the bleakness of the world itself. Cory wasn't as much of an individual threat as a symptom of a much bigger problem.

 

This is exactly how I see the world state as well, in DAI. That every conflict we witness -- mages, Templars, Corypants, Qunari, Tevinter, the spread of Red Lyrium -- is a symptom of a greater oncoming sickness (Blight) just beneath the surface -- in the lands, the people, the skies, the magic itself, and that's all being exacerbated and manipulated by the major players simply because it's their nature to do so. It's why it doesn't bother me that Cory isn't a better villain, because the reveal of who Solas is was, for me, far more fascinating from a big picture perspective.

 

Which is even further interesting to me because: What if the cheese (Thedas) is already sliding off its Triscuit into darkness? What if Solas's big "restore/damn the world" plan ends up being (in some fashion) the only way to save it? What would make that even more intriguing is if we manage to convince Solas to stop his plans, only to realize they are the only things that might work.

 

It's a pity.  Having played both now, I think I prefer the overall story with the templar arc.  I like Samson, but Calpernia is IMO better-written and gives more insight into the Venatori and Corypheus.  

I prefer Calpurnia over Samson as well, but in terms of the two quests, I find "In Hushed Whispers" incredibly moving and atmospheric. I just didn't feel the high stakes the same way in Champions of the Just. But finding my beloved companions all dying in "IHW" broke my heart, and their willingness to keep fighting, to die so that I could somehow fix the world, made me love them even more. 

 

I love that one bit in In Hushed Whispers where you see the companions in their cells and experience how they deal with the horrible future. It says a lot about each character.

 

I brought Solas, Bull and Cass, and their scenes just killed me. 

 

Then having Leliana be so brave and absolutely unwavering, surviving all the torture they could throw at her only to still throw down at the end, dying so that my Quizzie could live? I found it incredibly powerful and, um, I may have cried. (Yes, I'm a crier, if you haven't figured it out yet...) 

 

As a DAO player, I'd hated what Leliana becomes in DAI (she is a casualty to power, to me, in a really big way), but seeing her strong enough to overcome IHW made me realize how much I still loved and respected her.

 

Cory functions predominantly as an accumulation of world's bleakness and problems. Even Solas tells Cass at one point - regardless who is responsible for Cory threat (*cough*him, to an extent*cough*) it's the conflicts in Thedas like mage-templar war, or civil war or general infighting that allowed him to rise to power: what is exposed in Inquisition and what we're fighting is predominantly the weakness of the entire system.

 

Question now is whether Inquisition and Inquisitor (and whoever is going to help them) is still enough, given that mere 2 years after Cory's defeat, the world begins to return to a state of slowly unraveling itself - the political infighting and demands towards Inqusition almost cost everyone losing the South to the Qun. The vicious circle so far continues. And the problems ahead only seem bigger and bigger.

This. I really think this is where it's all going. Which should be really exciting for the next/final DA, because it really could be "fate of the world" high stakes, ramped up even beyond what we witnessed in DAO and DAI. If they actually go "full Blight" this time, it could be incredibly dramatic. Especially for players who have been there all along, and who know and love these places -- Redcliffe, Denerim, Orzammar, Val Royeux, etc...

 

I still remember my shock in DAO when Lothering was obliterated. Just gone. And now I can certainly imagine we might see something like that on a grander scale across the landscape of Thedas. (Imagine returning to the Winter Palace, where you once danced with Solas and smiled with your friends, and it's a blackened wreckage home to demons.)

 

So even though I think Cory wasn't the most interesting villain, as a symptom of a larger (inescapable) problem to come, he worked fine for me.

 

I agree that from a story perspective, it makes more sense to me personally to go to the mages ... unless you never go to Redcliffe at all and go straight to Therinfal Redoubt which is possible because you can go directly there without even unlocking In Hushed Whispers.

 

And I am fairly torn on this because I greatly prefer siding with the mages but I also think that Calpernia is a more interesting character and I like that you learn more of Cory's motivations from her questline.  I'd have loved to do both but of course you can't for ... reasons.

 

What's interesting to me is that each has genuinely strong positives: "In Hushed Whispers" to me is the best introduction of Dorian -- you get to know him so much more quickly, and he's in his element (I also adore Bull's first words at the sight of him -- something like, "Never trust the pretty ones"). The story was also much more emotional for me, out of the two. And yet with "Champions of the Just," we get that beautiful introduction to Cole -- and Calpernia is a more interesting and complex antagonist than Samson (I also prefer Ser Barris to the monumentally uncharismatic Fiona). So I love that we can replay and do either one.

 

I also think it's key that we have this choice -- there's no right one here. The world's problems are bigger than mages vs. Templars and this illustrates that really well, I think.

 

I am 100% for mage freedom personally and they did make it more challenging to justify why you're allying with the templars. 

 

But in-story perspective is actually exactly what makes it possible to justify that choice. As players we are these omniscient beings who have all the meta knowledge and can use the pure logic of how the situation stands. And one can play such a character too as well. IDK, maybe I'm weird, or maybe I'm less weird than I think, but I like playing these limited foolish people with their own biases who wouldn't always make the logically obvious choice. I didn't end up with a perfect world state in either playthrough: my canon sucks from my perspective, and even my do-goody Andrastian who tries to be the perfect Inquisitor enabled Cullen's lyrium addiction and he died.

 

And I love it that the story as written does allow one to do these things that defy logic. Your Inky can claim they're the Herald of Andraste against all evidence to the contrary, for example. 

 

I loved this -- I'm very much the same way. For me the game wouldn't be nearly as much fun if I didn't really try to build a character, complete with personality and point of view. My just-finished second playthrough Solasmance (sob! sorry. I'm fine), I knew who my Inquisitor was this time just as deeply as I did the first time, and they were very different people. My second Inquisitor was quieter, elfier, not as funny, but also a bit braver and a bit more of a crusader (she was very much about giving the mages their freedom, so this playthrough Viv pretty much hated me the entire time).

 

For me, the character-building opportunities in DAI make the game for me, just as they did in the Mass Effect verse. I will always love my FemShep(s), just as I'll always love my Inquisitor(s). I would love it if -- in the next DA -- we had the opportunity to continue the Inquisitor's journey -- it's certainly implied that she will be back in some way, so fingers crossed.

 

I really, really want a direct sequel and not dual protagonist. I just want to play our Inquisitors again.

 

But I doubt it will happen since they always want to add new companions and new romances and such and people want and expect this. So I expect someone new.

 

But if I could play the whole thing with her again, I would.

 

I'm with you on this. To me it's not only more fun, it offers richer opportunity for character development. 

Yeah the nug king was such a highlight during Descent.  I was grinning.  I always avoid killing the nugs and fennec foxes.  Does anyone know if it plays out differently if you killed a lot of nugs?  Would be amazing if it did.

 

edit:  Oh I haven't been the top in a while (*snicker*  heh)  relevant picture :

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I loved this so much. I always play a mage, and I can't tell you how sorry I constantly am for blasting some poor fennec or nug up the wazoo while a battle's raging, so this made me laugh out loud.

 

I keep fantasizing that one of the things my Inquisitor does after DAI is start a wildlife fund for all the poor fennecs, halla, nugs and other animals she inadvertently killed on her lethal journey across Thedas... 

[Cee]

So, apparently, I had an attack of the massive feels tonight, and wound up writing a sort of prologue chapter consisting of short letters from Nirwen to Josephine, Cullen, and to her younger brother on the eve of the events of Trespasser. The basis of this was some of the thoughts about the Anchor worsening, and what that might mean, and Vivienne banter when she asks about the extent of the pain that someone posted recently.

 

So, feelsy letters inspired by this weird magical thingie in your hand possibly acting like unstable magical poison.

 

http://archiveofouro...apters/12548519

[CapricornSun]

Art post.

 

The End of All Things by paperwick.   (Solavellan; Warning for blood and sadness.)

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Source: http://paperwick.tum...on-song-the-end

 

 

Solas and Lavellan talking by the veilfire.

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Source: http://theresa-draws...-the-people-and

 

 

You changed everything. (Solavellan)

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Source: http://theresa-draws...nged-everything

 

 

A Lesson in Linguistics. (Solavellan)

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Source: http://cl0udb3rryart...sy-afternoon-at

 

 

A beautiful portrait of sad Solas by nipuni.

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Source: http://nipuni.tumblr...-art-piece-and 

 

 

Lovely Solas sketch.

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Source: http://cl0udb3rryart...ad-yet-ref-used

 

 

The Unending Wake, Part 46.

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Source: http://harellanart.t...e-travel-au-the

 

 

Concept!Solas.

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Source: http://rudimentree.t...ve-trust-issues

 

 

How Wicked Grace should have gone.

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Source: http://theresa-draws...one-josie-voice

 

[Cee]

So many feels tonight.

[paramitch]

So, apparently, I had an attack of the massive feels tonight, and wound up writing a sort of prologue chapter consisting of short letters from Nirwen to Josephine, Cullen, and to her younger brother on the eve of the events of Trespasser. The basis of this was some of the thoughts about the Anchor worsening, and what that might mean, and Vivienne banter when she asks about the extent of the pain that someone posted recently.

 

So, feelsy letters inspired by this weird magical thingie in your hand possibly acting like unstable magical poison.

 

http://archiveofouro...apters/12548519

 

That's a lovely idea, and I'm looking forward to reading it. I've definitely got lots of great Blanket Fort fiction to catch up on just from the past week or so.

 

And I think I may wade in myself. I've been writing some fan-fiction, and I've also been toying with some ideas on a serial piece based on my Perionnan character's story progression (and all the stuff we can't say in the game, but that we find ourselves feeling for the characters -- filling in those gaps).

[Sable Rhapsody]

That's a lovely idea, and I'm looking forward to reading it. I've definitely got lots of great Blanket Fort fiction to catch up on just from the past week or so.

 

And I think I may wade in myself. I've been writing some fan-fiction, and I've also been toying with some ideas on a serial piece based on my Perionnan character's story progression (and all the stuff we can't say in the game, but that we find ourselves feeling for the characters -- filling in those gaps).

 

If you're interested, there's a fanfiction writer's group for the Blanketfort.  Link is in Cee's signature

[drosophila]

That's a lovely idea, and I'm looking forward to reading it. I've definitely got lots of great Blanket Fort fiction to catch up on just from the past week or so.

And I think I may wade in myself. I've been writing some fan-fiction, and I've also been toying with some ideas on a serial piece based on my Perionnan character's story progression (and all the stuff we can't say in the game, but that we find ourselves feeling for the characters -- filling in those gaps).

Do it!

And don't forget to share.

Also join us in the writing group

[Cee]

That's a lovely idea, and I'm looking forward to reading it. I've definitely got lots of great Blanket Fort fiction to catch up on just from the past week or so.

 

And I think I may wade in myself. I've been writing some fan-fiction, and I've also been toying with some ideas on a serial piece based on my Perionnan character's story progression (and all the stuff we can't say in the game, but that we find ourselves feeling for the characters -- filling in those gaps).

 

It can definitely be a good way to work through the feelings...or create more.

 

But if you'd like to join the group, beware we may enable more writing, more feels, and such.

[Sable Rhapsody]

But if you'd like to join the group, beware we may enable more writing, more feels, and such.

 

By which she means hot, hot elf smut 

 

EDIT: Very topical.  Have Solas sans shirt.

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source: http://lily-girl414.deviantart.com/

[Cee]

By which she means hot, hot elf smut 

 

EDIT: Very topical.  Have Solas sans shirt.

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source: http://lily-girl414.deviantart.com/

 

 

Shhh, you're giving away our secrets.

[CapricornSun]

Art post.  

 

The Unending Wake, Part 47.

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Source: http://harellanart.t...e-travel-au-the

 

 

Pulchra Tenebris, Part 28.

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Source: http://thefateshaper...olaslavellan-by

 

 

Solas done in the art style of Fallout 4! 

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Source: http://nachio.tumblr...st/135242672385

 

 

Solas and Lavellan eating candy canes!   (The comic is in Japanese though.)

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Source: http://nachio.tumblr...st/135242692150

 

 

Some gorgeous WIPs of Solas and Lavellan by kallielef.

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Source: http://kallielef.tum...300962/my-loves

 

 

Continuation of this comic. The DAI gang talking about the best meal in Skyhold.

When it gets to Solas' turn, Lavellan thought he was talking about other things. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) It's pretty damn funny.

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Source: http://solavellangar...5-minutes-later

 

 

5 mintutes later...

 

Another 5 minutes later...

 

Lovely artwork of sad Solas and Lavellan.

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Source: http://fenharxl.tumb...mmmmandy-i-cant