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[LeoEyes]

*Snort* I spat out my tea, and possibly ejected some from my nostrils...Ow.
Now I want that in game damn it.Solas: Inquisitor, I sense an Elven artifact nearby.Inquistor: Indeed, it is a very impressive Elven artifactSolas: How do you know? You haven't found it ye...Oh.Inquisitor: We'll bang okay?

Oh good quote working now. That conversation made me lol. Added a like!

[thecookiesuspectsnothing]

My lizard's reaction to Solas LI announcement....

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Made it a spoiler tag in case of anyone was afraid of lizards or lizards which may look snake like.

[LeoEyes]

Oh nice a blue tongue. He's cute! I've got bearded dragons myself...

[chrislynn]

Especially if you're a Keeper's First! You should in theory be more knowledgeable than even Solas on Dalish matters in that case, I would think.

 

 

I just wanted to point out that a Keeper's First would be knowledgeable on keeper specific lore and magic which would be restricted to information recovered through the years. We've also been told that this is a small drop compared to what the ancients knew. If Solas truly sees into the past and the lives through lucid dreaming, he may very well know more than a Keeper's first because he is not restricted to old stories only. 

 

So, yeah, I'd buy it

[LeoEyes]

I just wanted to point out that a Keeper's First would be knowledgeable on keeper specific lore and magic which would be restricted to information recovered through the years. We've also been told that this is a small drop compared to what the ancients knew. If Solas truly sees into the past and the lives through lucid dreaming, he may very well know more than a Keeper's first because he is not restricted to old stories only. 
 
So, yeah, I'd buy it

That's an interesting point and I could see that happening.

[Phate Phoenix]

I just wanted to point out that a Keeper's First would be knowledgeable on keeper specific lore and magic which would be restricted to information recovered through the years. We've also been told that this is a small drop compared to what the ancients knew. If Solas truly sees into the past and the lives through lucid dreaming, he may very well know more than a Keeper's first because he is not restricted to old stories only. 

 

So, yeah, I'd buy it

 

On top of that, Keepers only know things they've found, and have been able to maybe translate from the old elvish. Quite possibly, there are some things that the Dalish believe to be true that Solas has found to be false.

[Awkward Octopus]

I just wanted to point out that a Keeper's First would be knowledgeable on keeper specific lore and magic which would be restricted to information recovered through the years. We've also been told that this is a small drop compared to what the ancients knew. If Solas truly sees into the past and the lives through lucid dreaming, he may very well know more than a Keeper's first because he is not restricted to old stories only. 

 

So, yeah, I'd buy it

 

 

On top of that, Keepers only know things they've found, and have been able to maybe translate from the old elvish. Quite possibly, there are some things that the Dalish believe to be true that Solas has found to be false.

 

Well, sure, of course. I guess I meant "Dalish matters" in a societal/cultural/political context than a "true history" thing, because yeah, they don't know, they're trying to find out. But yes, good point.

[Uirebhiril]

I just wanted to point out that a Keeper's First would be knowledgeable on keeper specific lore and magic which would be restricted to information recovered through the years. We've also been told that this is a small drop compared to what the ancients knew. If Solas truly sees into the past and the lives through lucid dreaming, he may very well know more than a Keeper's first because he is not restricted to old stories only. 

 

So, yeah, I'd buy it

 

I didn't necessarily mean with Solas; surely he'd have a greater understanding about certain things if he's spent that much time looking at memories and events. But it really rips me out of the story when characters talk about things that are relevant to your character's race or background and you have no way of interjecting any sort of thoughts or views of your own. Instead, the NPCs are "educating" you as if your character has no damn clue about anything. Or better yet, they're insulting your race to your face as if you aren't of that race yourself. Pfft.

 

If we're walking around some elven ruins and a companion wonders what they are, I'd really like my elf character to speak up and recognize them, or suggest they may be elven, and then Solas can ramble on about it all he damn well wants. If we're talking about wandering off to some forest where elves live, my character should be able to have suggestions or insight on the matter. Not have Cullen or Cassandra tell me what to expect. I think my character should have a good idea, you know?

 

This goes for all races of course. I'm just using elf here because, well, Solas.

[Phate Phoenix]

Well, sure, of course. I guess I meant "Dalish matters" in a societal/cultural/political context than a "true history" thing, because yeah, they don't know, they're trying to find out. But yes, good point.

 

Oh, well, that's true.   I'm thinking he probably has, like, no idea how Dalish act culturally, aside from what he's gleamed from dreams. I almost want someone, after he does some sort of terrible faux pas to, like, a Keeper, to turn to him and say, "Aren't you practically Dalish?"

 

SOLAS: Obviously not. How do I apologize? Do I apologize? I can cook. Maybe she'll like stewed rabbit?

LEVALLAN: [BURIES FACE IN HANDS]

SOLAS: Should I... leave? [PAUSE] I should just go, shouldn't I.

LEVALLAN: [SILENT NODDING]

SOLAS: Right. I... See you back at camp. [LEAVES]

BULL: ... You just wanted him gone, didn't you?

LEVALLAN: Creators yes.

[dragondreamer]

I'm not too worried about race or even class being ignored.  I thought the games were pretty good about letting a mage or an elf pipe up on things specific to them in the past.

[RynJ]

Okay, I have to come in and share this little gem of a dream I had. I was watching Christmas specials with a friend last night and I ended up dreaming about that mixed with Dragon Age at one point. 

 

Basically, Santa couldn't complete his normal rounds and he went to Solas to ask for help. The rest is fuzzy but the idea of Solas Saves Christmas had me laughing for a long time this morning! 

 

I just picture him dressing as Santa and delivering presents and some kid waking up and seeing him.

 

Kid: "You're not Santa....."

 

Solas: "Hmm, what gave it away?"

 

Kid: "You're an elf! Elves only make the toys. Everyone knows that!"

 

Solas: "....It's good to know that I'm helping someone who delegated my entire race to manual labor."

[RebbyWriter]

Oh my.

 

So many people here with commonalities:

 

I am a Solas fan who is a pagan with fertility issues, has a pixie cut, and three bearded dragons.

 

You guys! I feel so close to you right now!!! *hugs*

 

The power of Solas has brought us together.

 

 

Oh Maker, these posts are such quality. I find myself cackling like a lunatic and my dog is running around from the high pitched noises I'm emitting.

[Tevinter Rose]

I forgot about this, which now leads me to believe that Solas wanting to have a child is even more unlikely. If you can keep playing, then you're not in the process of settling down to be pregnant. 

 

I'd like to throw out questions so we can brainstorm what the story reason would be for an elf. Critical thinking is my thing.

 

1. Why would an elf want to be with another elf?

 

2. Why would an elf not want to be with a human, a dwarf, or a qunari?

 

3. Why would an elf not be able to be with a human, a dwarf, or a qunari in spite of his desires?

 

4. What are the benefits of a hedge mage elf coupling with a Dalish elf (of any class) who is also leader of an Inquisition and the Herald of Andraste?

 

5. What benefits does the fem Dalish Inquisitor receive for romancing Solas?

 

6. How does religious/nonreligious affiliation tie into Solas' desire for a female elf over other races? How does that tie into his Fade knowledge? 

 

7. Could it be possible that Solas has previously met the fem Dalish Inquisitor? (And of course she has no memory of this) Possible "we-have-previously-met" tropes: a female child he once saved in his youth who stole his heart, an old flame, an old friend, an old enemy, an arranged marriage... (Any other tropes?)

 

1. I think its just his comfort zone, what he's most familiar with

2. I can see him not wanting to be with other races because he's just not into them, we'll probably get more detailed reasons in the game.

3. I don't know if he doesn't want to be with other races in spite of his desires, I don't really know his desires yet we've yet to find out

4. I think the benefits would be a great exchange of magical power and knowledge between the two, they would learn a lot from each other about elven culture as well.

5. The benefits are you get to be in a magical elven power couple with a charming intellectual elf to love and to adventure around Thedas with. Possibly combining each others knowledge to help with the Fade crisis and strengthen the Inquisition, and ultimately taking over the world   .

6. Not sure yet what his religious or non religious status is. My Lavellan will probably believe the Creators are just archetypes so I'm not sure how that will play out with Solas' beliefs. How his beliefs tie into his fade knowledge I do not know but I do want to find out.

7. It's very possible he might have already met the fem inquisitor or at least heard about her before. If he ends up being a villain I could see him already having knowledge of who the inquisitor is before he meets them so he can plot his possibly sinister plans.

[TanithAeyrs]

I forgot about this, which now leads me to believe that Solas wanting to have a child is even more unlikely. If you can keep playing, then you're not in the process of settling down to be pregnant. 
 
I'd like to throw out questions so we can brainstorm what the story reason would be for an elf. Critical thinking is my thing.
 
1. Why would an elf want to be with another elf?
 
2. Why would an elf not want to be with a human, a dwarf, or a qunari?
 
3. Why would an elf not be able to be with a human, a dwarf, or a qunari in spite of his desires?
 
4. What are the benefits of a hedge mage elf coupling with a Dalish elf (of any class) who is also leader of an Inquisition and the Herald of Andraste?
 
5. What benefits does the fem Dalish Inquisitor receive for romancing Solas?
 
6. How does religious/nonreligious affiliation tie into Solas' desire for a female elf over other races? How does that tie into his Fade knowledge? 
 
7. Could it be possible that Solas has previously met the fem Dalish Inquisitor? (And of course she has no memory of this) Possible "we-have-previously-met" tropes: a female child he once saved in his youth who stole his heart, an old flame, an old friend, an old enemy, an arranged marriage... (Any other tropes?)
 
 
Time to answer.

Hmm, I'll have a go at these. Just speculation, but fun questions.

1, 2 &3. An elf may simply only be romantically attracted to those of his own species. Not that he/she dislikes other species, they just don't see them in that way.

Or, perhaps Solas (specifically) is afraid that because he has spent so much time dreaming in Elvhen ruins that his lucid dreaming may negatively impact an individual of another species if he becomes intimate with them.

Or, as has been brought up before - lifespan issue associating with other species if Solas is an ancient elf or has discovered secrets relating to their long lifespan.

Another point that has been brought up often, if the union results in children he wishes them to be Elvhen.

Maybe there are some aspects of intimacy that are different if two elves are involved - possibly something related to Solas' lucid dreaming, a sort of mental bonding?

Or maybe Solas' abilities would diminish or vanish with intimate association with another species and he views his unique research and perspective as more important than his personal desires (sort of a "Tale of Two Cities" needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one).



4. Protection from Templars (if the mage/Templar conflict is not resolved in favor of the mages).

Political support for his perspective on the fade - perhaps even promotion of his ideas about teaching people not to be afraid of the fade.

Political and possible military support for his research - he may be able to explore ruins that were previously out of reach. Perhaps they were to close to inhabited areas or to dangerous for him to explore alone.

Aid in closing the Fade rifts and saving the world.

If the Inquisitor is known as the Herald of Andraste (which may not be true in all world states, we will have to see), then he will also have religious backing to support his ideas.



5. Intimacy with one of her own species who has knowledge of Elvhen culture.

Increased insight and knowledge about ancient elves.

Potentially a more "special" kind of relationship than can be obtained with a non-elf.

A mate who would be acceptable to her clan and who she could have Elvhen children with if that was what they both desired.

A LI who is as fascinated with unearthing ancient Elvhen culture as she is (for some Inquisitors).



6. Solas may worship the Elvhen pantheon and could not imagine intimacy with someone who doesn't.

Solas may be aware that all religions are based on false information, but he prefers to be in a relationship with someone who does not believe that converting an entire continent is necessary.

Solas may have direct association with one of the Elvhen gods and be unable, due to that association, to be intimate with another species. Commandment of the God or something.



7. I find this one the most problematic, as it interferes with the player's agency. It is possible, but I suspect if there is a connection it is made when the Inquisitor falls into the fade. The concept of a previous association could be interesting, but I do think it likely the developers would have found a compelling reason for it (and perhaps they did).

Edited for formatting and one bit of awkward phrasing

[manabloom]

[pokes head out from around a corner]

 

is it safe now? i came in earlier but all i found were posts implying that all m/f relationships were heterosexual... fun times. except not.

kind of thought about abandoning the thread. but i thought i heard laughter...

 

SOLAS: [LOUNGES ON A BEARSKIN RUG] Inquisitior, I sense an impressive elven artifact nearby.

So do Elven artifacts give off some kind of aura that Solas can sense with his abilities? Or is Solas just an absolute boss at antiquing?

"I got this for a steal, inquisitor."

Okay, I have to come in and share this little gem of a dream I had. I was watching Christmas specials with a friend last night and I ended up dreaming about that mixed with Dragon Age at one point. 

Basically, Santa couldn't complete his normal rounds and he went to Solas to ask for help. The rest is fuzzy but the idea of Solas Saves Christmas had me laughing for a long time this morning! 

 

ah! i did hear laughter!

yes. good.

 

[crawls behind a nearby plant]

[lurks]

 

[Arvaarad]

Don't know if this has already been posted, but have some Solas art

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from http://smailika.tumblr.com/

Hold up.

I finally realized why Solas' outfit looked vaguely familiar.

He looks like a more warmly-dressed version of Sagacious Zu, right down to the staff he's holding. Especially with the color scheme used in that fanart.

I look forward to discovering that (Jade Empire spoilers)

Spoiler

Solas worked for the big bad.

[Mistic]

I didn't necessarily mean with Solas; surely he'd have a greater understanding about certain things if he's spent that much time looking at memories and events. But it really rips me out of the story when characters talk about things that are relevant to your character's race or background and you have no way of interjecting any sort of thoughts or views of your own. Instead, the NPCs are "educating" you as if your character has no damn clue about anything. Or better yet, they're insulting your race to your face as if you aren't of that race yourself. Pfft.

 

If we're walking around some elven ruins and a companion wonders what they are, I'd really like my elf character to speak up and recognize them, or suggest they may be elven, and then Solas can ramble on about it all he damn well wants. If we're talking about wandering off to some forest where elves live, my character should be able to have suggestions or insight on the matter. Not have Cullen or Cassandra tell me what to expect. I think my character should have a good idea, you know?

 

I think DA:O did a good job in that regard. When you went to a place specifically tailored for your origin (Circle for mages, Dalish camp for Dalish, Orzammar for Dwarves, Landsmeet for nobles, Alienage for City Elves) there were differences. I remember even a Dalish having remarks about Leliana's story about Shartan (another thing is that Leliana reacted or not, but the remarks were there).

 

7. Could it be possible that Solas has previously met the fem Dalish Inquisitor? (And of course she has no memory of this) Possible "we-have-previously-met" tropes: a female child he once saved in his youth who stole his heart, an old flame, an old friend, an old enemy, an arranged marriage... (Any other tropes?)

 

The other questions will be answered in due time. However, some will make headcanons about this. As the backgrounds and the romance reveals have proved time and time again, it's not good to make headcanons before we know more about the game. For example, do we know if Solas has had dealings with Dalish before?

 

However, there's a way it could happen... if Solas was working for the Big Bad and was involved in the Warden's disappearance. But then it wouldn't make the Dalish origin any different from other origins.

[Tevinter Rose]

"solas I know you lived in the woods alone for your whole life. but you can’t just sneak into the inquisitor’s bedroom to observe them while sleeping…"

[source]

[Phate Phoenix]

Hold up.

I finally realized why Solas' outfit looked vaguely familiar.

He looks like a more warmly-dressed version of Sagacious Zu, right down to the staff he's holding. Especially with the color scheme used in that fanart.

I look forward to discovering that (Jade Empire spoilers)

Spoiler

Solas worked for the big bad.

 

[manabloom]

Hold up.
I finally realized why Solas' outfit looked vaguely familiar.
He looks like a more warmly-dressed version of Sagacious Zu, right down to the staff he's holding. Especially with the color scheme used in that fanart.

I look forward to discovering that (Jade Empire spoilers)

Spoiler

Solas worked for the big bad.

 

[clutches chest]

Zu.

Ow.

 

The other questions will be answered in due time. However, some will make headcanons about this. As the backgrounds and the romance reveals have proved time and time again, it's not good to make headcanons before we know more about the game. For example, do we know if Solas has had dealings with Dalish before?

 

Yes, it's been stated that he's met Dalish.

Also... I'm totally over here running with the idea, hah. Not getting attached, so no harm if proved false... but the dream bit is too cute. Cheesy. But cute.

 

I personally like to imagine that her clan came upon some ruins, and being First, she was sent in as part of the group that was to see if anything could be recovered... Some time later, Solas finds them, naps, sees her in the memories... BOOM. LIGHTNING. Waifu. 

 

i'm such a sucker for fluff oh gosh.

[AnimeLavellan]

Is it safe to come back now? Yes? Good. HELLO EVERYONE, IT IS I, ANIMELAVELLAN! I HAVE RETURNED FROM MY ETERNAL SLUMBER!

 

 

Ahem, anyways...

 

I speculate it comes from the overwhelming amount of time he spends in the Fade. Specifically, he naps in ancient ruins where the Veil is extra thin. I assume doing that causes one to have a more intense Fade experience than most. Perhaps after a time of so much exposure, he learns things within the Fade realm. Beyond that, maybe Solas is slowly but surely becoming permanently "altered" by spending so much time in the Fade. It must have some kind of permanent, lasting effect (or damage?) to the brain. And since demons and spirits exist in the Fade, capable of attaching themselves to mediums (which it sounds like Solas is "medium material") then perhaps one of those creatures are altering his perceptions, carrying over to the real world. Remember that the Fade is just a distorted version of Thedas, like an alternate dimension. (Sorta.) If Solas is capable of lucid dreaming, then that means he can easily navigate his dreams (and the Fade) and retain information collected from within. It kind of feels like him being an elf is somewhat irrelevant compared to his habits that which are likely altering his conscious state of mind. It's probably like dropping acid one too many times, to a point in which differentiating reality from distorted reality becomes a struggle. I assume Solas will start off confident and able to hone his treasure seeking abilities, but that will evolve into an obstacle for him as he loses whatever sense of control he had at the start of the game.

 

I like this idea

 

Inquisitor my Elven artifcact senses are a tingling~

 

Rift mage! Rift mage!

Does whatever a rift mage does!

Can he sense elven artifacts?

Yes he can, cause he's a rift mage!

 

XD

 

SOLAS: [LOUNGES ON A BEARSKIN RUG] Inquisitior, I sense an impressive elven artifact nearby.

 

 

 

(THIS IS A GOOD WAY TO START A MORNING HI GUYS)

 

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My lizard's reaction to Solas LI announcement....

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Made it a spoiler tag in case of anyone was afraid of lizards or lizards which may look snake like.

 

*Squeals* Ah~ It's SO CUTE!!

 

Okay, I have to come in and share this little gem of a dream I had. I was watching Christmas specials with a friend last night and I ended up dreaming about that mixed with Dragon Age at one point. 

 

Basically, Santa couldn't complete his normal rounds and he went to Solas to ask for help. The rest is fuzzy but the idea of Solas Saves Christmas had me laughing for a long time this morning! 

 

I just picture him dressing as Santa and delivering presents and some kid waking up and seeing him.

 

Kid: "You're not Santa....."

 

Solas: "Hmm, what gave it away?"

 

Kid: "You're an elf! Elves only make the toys. Everyone knows that!"

 

Solas: "....It's good to know that I'm helping someone who delegated my entire race to manual labor."

 

Liked Cause I'm out of likes. Again.

 

"solas I know you lived in the woods alone for your whole life. but you can’t just sneak into the inquisitor’s bedroom to observe them while sleeping…"

[source]

 

You know, I wouldn't mind him watching me sleep. Though... It kinda reminds me of this guy:

 

[manabloom]

Is it safe to come back now? Yes? Good. HELLO EVERYONE, IT IS I, ANIMELAVELLAN! I HAVE RETURNED FROM MY ETERNAL SLUMBER!

 

I like how we came out of hiding at the same time.   

HIGH FIVE FOR SAFETY. 

 

[Phate Phoenix]

LOOK IT'S OUR NERD
 

Better quality.



Source

Awww, you can see his toes. I love those toes.

[AnimeLavellan]

I like how we came out of hiding at the same time.   

HIGH FIVE FOR SAFETY.