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Art again.

 

Certain... lingering looks ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

 

"You shouldn't cover your beautiful face with your hair, Inquisitor." (Solavellan)  ^_^

 

Lavellan poking Solas' face with a candy cane. :lol:

 

Another gorgeous artwork of Solas by Fen'Inan:) 

 

He felt the whole world change. (Fen'Harel)

 

Solas sketch.

 

Adorable chibi Solas!

 

Another chibi Solas. This time as a Christmas elf. :D

 

Solas looking ready to do some cleaning while Lavellan, Sera, and Cole read books. :P


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Hey thread,

 

I posted the next chapter of A bullet through the Veil. 

 

Summary: A choice and the point of no return for our rebel friends. 

 

Hope you read & enjoy it. 


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I dreamt Dorian gave me a cuddle and it was really nice..

 

Then he said Solas was going to tell me off for not keeping up with my (school?) studies. When I talked to him it turned into some sort of parody.

 

Dreams are weird. I'm pretty sure Varric was there too.


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Heyhoo... Sorry to butt in, I'm just officially started & (did a great deal) of Solas Romance with my Lavellan... And I cried, I cried, I cried, as probably most of you are T___T

 

Still hopeful though, he can still be redeemed...

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I just heard Solas say this (about himself): "It must've been some time since the renegade templars faced a mage of any talent".

 

So humble Solas..


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I just heard Solas say this (about himself): "It must've been some time since the renegade templars faced a mage of any talent".

 

So humble Solas..

 

I actually rather like him doing that, it's cocky and humble at the same time XD


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I just heard Solas say this (about himself): "It must've been some time since the renegade templars faced a mage of any talent".

 

So humble Solas..

 

Ah, he says that every playthrough for me. XD

 

Although I was also mage during those first dozen playthroughs, so I always felt like he was talking about both of us. "Yeah, we rock!"

 

... Until that playthrough where I wasn't a mage and he still said it. "Wow. Way to be humble, Solas...  <_< "


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Ah, he says that every playthrough for me. XD

 

Although I was also mage during those first dozen playthroughs, so I always felt like he was talking about both of us. "Yeah, we rock!"

 

... Until that playthrough where I wasn't a mage and he still said it. "Wow. Way to be humble, Solas...  <_< "

 

That's what I thought too.. :(.



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I just heard Solas say this (about himself): "It must've been some time since the renegade templars faced a mage of any talent".

 

So humble Solas..

Well his name does mean Pride, right?  :P


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Ah, he says that every playthrough for me. XD

 

Although I was also mage during those first dozen playthroughs, so I always felt like he was talking about both of us. "Yeah, we rock!"

 

... Until that playthrough where I wasn't a mage and he still said it. "Wow. Way to be humble, Solas...  <_< "

 

I'm... not really sure what's the issue here^^;? I have to admit that I am somewhat befuddled as to some want to hold such timid comment against him, as if he's all like "Ahaha - I'm the best! Fear me!", rather than making a statement that can mean anything from "slightly above average" to "god-like", and he never really claimed the latter.

 

He simply acknowledges that he has skills that go at least somewhat beyond what the Templars have encountered (and he does) - which was more an observation on the sorry state of the Circles, rather than his own expertise. In fact, given what he thinks about the Circles and how they're gilded cages that create severe limitations and prevent mages from becoming truly remarkable, it appears more like he's way downplaying his own might, rather than the other way around.


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I'm... not really sure what's the issue here^^;? I have to admit that I am somewhat befuddled as to some want to hold such timid comment against him, as if he's all like "Ahaha - I'm the best! Fear me!", rather than making a statement that can mean anything from "slightly above average" to "god-like", and he never really claimed the latter.

 

He simply acknowledges that he has skills that go at least somewhat beyond what the Templars have encountered (and he does) - which was more an observation on the sorry state of the Circles, rather than his own expertise. In fact, given what he thinks about the Circles and how they're gilded cages that create severe limitations and prevent mages from becoming truly remarkable, it appears more like he's way downplaying his own might, rather than the other way around.

This was more how I looked at it. The circle really doesn't let mages excel at magic. Anyone that becomes powerful risks death, or worse... Mess with some kind of magic the Chantry deems taboo, death or tranquility. There is a lot of dialog that hints at the severe limits the circle and Chantry has placed on magic. Even one of his banters with Vivienne mentions that magic is far more than she understands it to be.

 

 

In other news I have a new chapter ready.....

 

Chapter 21 is now posted (AO3 link). Hope not Faded.

 

“Hope is the thing with feathers that perches in the soul and sings the tune without words and never stops at all.” – Emily Dickinson (1830-1886)
Cara shows Dorian the Fade, and Solas learns of her trip to Denerim.


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Mini Art post! :wizard:

 

Beautiful DAI sketchdump by kallielef. (Lavellan, Solas, Cassandra, and Sera. Plus lizards. :lol: )

 

A lovely artwork of Lavellan and a rather sad-looking Solas.

 

Solas x Cullen (yes, you heard me right) from the Mummy AU fic Curse of the Dread Wolf


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I'm... not really sure what's the issue here^^;? I have to admit that I am somewhat befuddled as to some want to hold such timid comment against him, as if he's all like "Ahaha - I'm the best! Fear me!", rather than making a statement that can mean anything from "slightly above average" to "god-like", and he never really claimed the latter.

He simply acknowledges that he has skills that go at least somewhat beyond what the Templars have encountered (and he does) - which was more an observation on the sorry state of the Circles, rather than his own expertise. In fact, given what he thinks about the Circles and how they're gilded cages that create severe limitations and prevent mages from becoming truly remarkable, it appears more like he's way downplaying his own might, rather than the other way around.

I'm not sure FernRain meant it to be an issue... seems more like a joke or light-hearted comment?

But in general: why be humble at all? It's a losing strategy and I'd rather it were not viewed as a good thing.

Solas is not humble, but he also does not overstate his abilities or flaunt them. He is simply confident, and it is true that he knows more than any other mage around at the time.

Also I think he would prefer that he weren't vastly more knowledgeable or skilled than everyone else. He *is* trying to restore the old magic after all. If someone friendly with more knowledge were around, he would probably nerd out excitedly and pester them with questions.

If it were all about his ego, he might have been happier living among the ignorant gremlins and using his superior skill to his advantage.
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This was more how I looked at it. The circle really doesn't let mages excel at magic. Anyone that becomes powerful risks death, or worse... Mess with some kind of magic the Chantry deems taboo, death or tranquility. There is a lot of dialog that hints at the severe limits the circle and Chantry has placed on magic. Even one of his banters with Vivienne mentions that magic is far more than she understands it to be.

 

Yeah, one just has to look at the mess that occurred in Fereldan Circle in DAO to see how bad it is - the mages rebel, things go wrong and the Templars lose control to a point that they think the only way out is Circles' complete annihilation. If it wasn't for the efforts of HOF and their plucky teams, Templars would just resort to the crudest methods possible when it comes to solving the problem.

 

One may point out that the Circle has still managed to produce exceptional people, like Warden, Wynne, Vivienne or human Inky, but each and one of them is noted during the game to be exceptionally skilled either way. Other than that, the Circle does more to restrict the mages' powers, rather than letting them grow.

 

Oh sure, there are still powerful individuals and the Circle is an authority on magic... but only because (on the South at least) there rally is no other authority. The Circles basically epitomize the saying "In the land of the blind the one-eyed is a king"... and considering that Solas has witnessed the feats of magic probably nobody has seen before, or knows things he likely knows are relatively easily obtainable by other mages (despite the Veil) if it wasn't for Circles' limitations, the state of Southern mages and their captors must really be a sorry sight.

 

I'm not sure FernRain meant it to be an issue... seems more like a joke or light-hearted comment?

But in general: why be humble at all? It's a losing strategy and I'd rather it were not viewed as a good thing.

Solas is not humble, but he also does not overstate his abilities or flaunt them. He is simply confident, and it is true that he knows more than any other mage around at the time.

Also I think he would prefer that he weren't vastly more knowledgeable or skilled than everyone else. He *is* trying to restore the old magic after all. If someone friendly with more knowledge were around, he would probably nerd out excitedly and pester them with questions.

If it were all about his ego, he might have been happier living among the ignorant gremlins and using his superior skill to his advantage.

 

Yeah, one of the best things about Solas is that he recognizes people's talents and deeply appreciates dedication, progress and research. People may tease him for making snappish comment at Dorian for appropriating many elven things and magical techniques, but the first thing he does when we meet Dorian and he explains that he and Alexius researched time magic, is he smiles and is like "This is fascinating! Dangerus, but still!". He recognizes and praises Dorian's own magical prowess and readily asks him about new techniques, when Dorian has a trick or two Solas doesn't know. Both of them sound in their element and seem to appreciate one another when they discuss magic. Even with Vivienne he recognizes her talent, her intellect and poise - what bothers him the most is her mindset.

 

But it's not just with the mages; same with Cassandra - he praises her easily (S: "You fight hard Seeker!" C: "We would be dead if I did not" <- Cass is confident of her skills too) and instead of b*tching at Templars and them stopping magic he remarks how fascinating it is to watch Cass and Templars using their abilities. And when Cassandra asks about his perspective on Templar skills, he's delighted that they can have a conversation about it.

 

Same with mage specializations, especially his own or Knight-Enchanter - he doesn't jealously hold his own secrets of manipulating the Fade close to him, in fact he remarks that the Inquisitor learned quickly something that took him years to master. He never holds against anyone, no matter the race or approval level, that they're studying Arcane Warrior techniques; in fact he seems to be all for it as long as the knowledge is preserved and Inky wants to learn things by studying.

 

It is genuinely one of the things I like the most about Solas - for all his ancient-elfiness and world-destroying plans and having his head crammed a thousand years ago, he's remarkably open-minded, very progressive and curious about everything. He will chide Iron Bull for defending the Qun, only to ask later how the Qunari are putting on shirts :lol: He's for sharing and expanding knowledge and for it to be available to most, so long as it isn't abused.


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I'm... not really sure what's the issue here^^;? I have to admit that I am somewhat befuddled as to some want to hold such timid comment against him, as if he's all like "Ahaha - I'm the best! Fear me!", rather than making a statement that can mean anything from "slightly above average" to "god-like", and he never really claimed the latter.

 

He simply acknowledges that he has skills that go at least somewhat beyond what the Templars have encountered (and he does) - which was more an observation on the sorry state of the Circles, rather than his own expertise. In fact, given what he thinks about the Circles and how they're gilded cages that create severe limitations and prevent mages from becoming truly remarkable, it appears more like he's way downplaying his own might, rather than the other way around.

 

There's no need to take this so seriously.  :huh:

 

I was just saying I had a similar reaction to FernRain the first time I heard Solas utter that line. Everything you said is true, but the very first time I heard it with a second mage in the party it sounded like he was congratulating all mages in the party for being awesome, but the first time I heard it without a second mage my immediate knee-jerk reaction was, "Whoa, way to pat yourself on the back."

 

I'm not gonna pretend my first reaction to hearing that line was different just because you don't like it. Just because I make a little tongue-and-cheek jab at his humility (his name means "Pride," after all) doesn't mean I'm saying he thinks he's "Ahaha the best" or "god-like," and just because I poke fun at something he says doesn't mean I don't like him or recognize his virtues.


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I'm not sure FernRain meant it to be an issue... seems more like a joke or light-hearted comment?

 

Yep. The only thing I take remotely seriously is lore-crafting.

 

Something annoying just happened to me:

I'm playing a Dwarf Inquisitor and the one quest my race would change the outcome of I missed out on, 'cause Ritts died. Argh! And I haven't been able to find a video of what would've happened ,_, .. Curses.



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I also found a lore discrepancy:

 

This is Hyndel's mother, a human:

 

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This is Hyndel, an elf:

 

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Hyndel's father is an Elf. Either she's not his biological mother or they messed up.


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There's no need to take this so seriously.  :huh:

 

I was just saying I had a similar reaction to FernRain the first time I heard Solas utter that line. Everything you said is true, but the very first time I heard it with a second mage in the party it sounded like he was congratulating all mages in the party for being awesome, but the first time I heard it without a second mage my immediate knee-jerk reaction was, "Whoa, way to pat yourself on the back."

 

I'm not gonna pretend my first reaction to hearing that line was different just because you don't like it. Just because I make a little tongue-and-cheek jab at his humility (his name means "Pride," after all) doesn't mean I'm saying he thinks he's "Ahaha the best" or "god-like," and just because I poke fun at something he says doesn't mean I don't like him or recognize his virtues.

 

I'm not taking it seriously, nor I've ever made it about you or anyone else liking, or not liking Solas - we make fun or criticize Solas quite often on the thread, while still liking the character. That was never an issue.

 

I'm just surprised that an off-handed comment that is more a statement on the sorry state of mages and templars can even grow to a tongue-in-cheek jab status, or people having kneejerk reaction to it, however slight or initial. Most companions acknowledge that they're at least above-average in one or another place in the game, and I'm yet to see anyone making it onto a jab - though I suppose their name isn't "Pride"... We really are just running in circles at this point, aren't we? :D Taking the slightest things and analyzing them ;)


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Yep. The only thing I take remotely seriously is lore-crafting.

That's more seriousness than I am capable of :lol:

But I love yours and all the other theories out there. Kudos for crafting them.
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We really are just running in circles at this point, aren't we? :D Taking the slightest things and analyzing them ;)


Yeah, oh goodness, and we have seveal more years.
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I also found a lore discrepancy:

 

This is Hyndel's mother, a human:

 

This is Hyndel, an elf:

 

 

 

Hyndel's father is an Elf. Either she's not his biological mother or they messed up.

 

Well, we do know for sure that there are no such things as half-elves in Thedas, so it's either not his biological mother (we never know from the game if she is, only that Hyndel considers her family), or they simply missed that detail.

 

I have to admit, I'm rather more interested with the fact that Wisdom herself uses human model, despite apparently being really old - one of Solas' oldest friends, which means that she rally must be old - and speaking in elvhen, yet she looks decidedly human. They do have elf models using her attire, so.... huh?

Same with ghosts in Brecilian ruins in DAO - they've made the boy and the woman in the tomb human, despite speaking elvhen and being all 'elfy' in any respect other then looks.... Whyyyyyyyyy? What's the secret here? Because it's just too large to be an oversight.


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Yeah, oh goodness, and we have seveal more years.

 

OH DEAR GODS, DON'T REMIND ME!!

 

http://niklisson.tum...y-cycle-of-life


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OH DEAR GODS, DON'T REMIND ME!!

http://niklisson.tum...y-cycle-of-life


Omg this is my life.
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OH DEAR GODS, DON'T REMIND ME!!

http://niklisson.tum...y-cycle-of-life


Yep, that's me :lol:

They have to give us a book or something.
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Yep, that's me :lol:

They have to give us a book or something.

Sorry, but you have to fill the time writing your own fanfic instead.... :o


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