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*snip*

 

Your fic sounds compelling! Along somewhat similar lines, I've got this whole headcanon of a dude (my) Tala meets post endgame, pre-Trespasser which I've been debating trying to write out. It makes the whole romantic element of Solas and Tala's Trespasser reunion more conflicted and dramatic in my mind. She's torn between a lover she'd thought lost and this hopeful new hot piece of--WAIT, what!? There is a smut thread? We needs it. We wants it.

 

Oooh! Yours sounds interesting too! More drama in (your) Tala's life!  :ph34r: I say write it out!  :D

 

Just in case you're wondering what I'm working on (copy & pasting what I wrote at the smut thread):

 

Spoiler

 

 As for the smut thread, it's actually over here at the Blanket Fort Writers' Group: http://forum.bioware...t-fort-writers/

Feel free to join us! The more the merrier! :) (Cee could approve you for the group if ever you decide to join in!)

 

I'd kind of like to romance Thane, but the flirt option/timing with the dead wife thing threw me right off.

 

Thane: And that's how my wife died.

Shepard: **** me.

 

Cool it, Shep.

 

Okay, this kinda made me laugh. :P


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I'd kind of like to romance Thane, but the flirt option/timing with the dead wife thing threw me right off.

 

Thane: And that's how my wife died.

Shepard: **** me.

 

Cool it, Shep.

 

My Shepard and Thane had a definite attraction-but-unrequited-love thing going on. I really liked his character, but it would have destroyed the narrative I had going in my head about their interactions and feelings. Also I am so over dead wives.

 

Meanwhile I refused to go near Jacob because I was fully convinced Shepard would step into the room buck-naked and adorned with whipped cream. "Heeeyyyy Jaacob. Wanna... talk a bit? About... things?" *winkwink*

 

I love your voice acting, Jennifer Hale, but WT ever loving F.


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Art post.

 

First off, artbyanca did this lovely artwork of my Tala and Solas for my birthday. <3

 

Pencil sketch of modern AU Solas and Lavellan. :)

 

Solas and Lavellan wrapped in a blanket.

 

Sketches of Solas and Lavellan.

 

When Dorian found illegal files, Solas greatly disapproves. (Warning for blood.)


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Happy b-day Sunny! :D
Nope I'm turning 29 the 24th.

Birthday twins :D
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I'd kind of like to romance Thane, but the flirt option/timing with the dead wife thing threw me right off.

 

Thane: And that's how my wife died.

Shepard: **** me.

 

Cool it, Shep.

 


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My Shepard and Thane had a definite attraction-but-unrequited-love thing going on. I really liked his character, but it would have destroyed the narrative I had going in my head about their interactions and feelings. Also I am so over dead wives.


Yeah, me too  :sick: 

 

Though to be fair, I also think BioWare's gotten better at writing the dead ex thing.  I definitely got the creepy replacement goldfish impression with earlier LIs (Carth), but not with more recent ones (Steve Cortez, Cassandra).


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Yeah, me too  :sick:

 

Though to be fair, I also think BioWare's gotten better at writing the dead ex thing.  I definitely got the creepy replacement goldfish impression with earlier LIs (Carth), but not with more recent ones (Steve Cortez, Cassandra).

 

Aie, Carth. I liked him okay enough, but telling his crush that she reminds him of his dead wife was like nooo thanks. Still did the romance, but seriously?  :unsure:

 

They have gotten better though, and I'll be the first to say so. Turns out it IS possible to give characters backstories and reasons for angst and feelings that are not some new flavor of "my whole family was killed" or "my true love died." :P



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Aie, Carth. I liked him okay enough, but telling his crush that she reminds him of his dead wife was like nooo thanks. Still did the romance, but seriously?  :unsure:
 
They have gotten better though, and I'll be the first to say so. Turns out it IS possible to give characters backstories and reasons for angst and feelings that are not some new flavor of "my whole family was killed" or "my true love died." :P


Yeah, I...urgh.  No.  Icky.  It probably didn't help that KOTOR was my first CRPG and I was 16.  Carth's son was closer to my age than Carth himself  :blink:  I couldn't go through with that romance.



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Meanwhile I refused to go near Jacob because I was fully convinced Shepard would step into the room buck-naked and adorned with whipped cream. "Heeeyyyy Jaacob. Wanna... talk a bit? About... things?" *winkwink*

 

I love your voice acting, Jennifer Hale, but WT ever loving F.

I stopped talking to Jacob after doing his loyalty mission because of that voice acting. Especially awkward when your Shepard is a lesbian.

 


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I stopped talking to Jacob after doing his loyalty mission because of that voice acting. Especially awkward when your Shepard is a lesbian.

 

I managed, via a combination of reloading and using the mute button, to find the most neutral dialogue options with Jacob.  But seriously, that is way too much f***ing effort on my part.  I liked Jacob a lot better playing as ManShep, where I didn't have to tiptoe through a minefield of awkward.



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I stopped talking to Jacob after doing his loyalty mission because of that voice acting. Especially awkward when your Shepard is a lesbian.

 

I prefer the oblivious lesbian Shepard of ME1 who was slowly making Kaidan fall in love with her while just being '????? We are such good friends!'



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Now that I know so many people here are close to my age, I want to have a Solasmancer party aaahhh
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I prefer the oblivious lesbian Shepard of ME1 who was slowly making Kaidan fall in love with her while just being '????? We are such good friends!'

 

The sky is pretty.

 

 

*cue love triangle*


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The sky is pretty.

 

 

*cue love triangle*

 

Liara has the excuse of being a sweet, shy dork who's "only" 106  :wub:   Kaidan, you're in your 30s.  Grow some social skills :P


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Thanks guys and gals for the help earlier! I am still on the fence for a romance option.

I've done..
Female Qunari x Iron Bull
Male Human Mage x Dorian
Human Male Warrior x Cassandra
'Youtubed' Cullen and Sera
Female Elf Mage x Solas

So for a change of romance, I was thinking of Josephine.

The only thing that is stopping me..is headcanon. With her being the heir of her household, I feel as an elf that I would be holding her back from a true romance of marrying a human noble and bringing her house heirs of their own without the elf blood holding her down.

Sorry for being off topic, but every time I come to this thread, I get thoughtful post and opinions. :P
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Thanks guys and gals for the help earlier! I am still on the fence for a romance option.

I've done..
Female Qunari x Iron Bull
Male Human Mage x Dorian
Human Male Warrior x Cassandra
'Youtubed' Cullen and Sera
Female Elf Mage x Solas

So for a change of romance, I was thinking of Josephine.

The only thing that is stopping me..is headcanon. With her being the heir of her household, I feel as an elf that I would be holding her back from a true romance of marrying a human noble and bringing her house heirs of their own without the elf blood holding her down.

Sorry for being off topic, but every time I come to this thread, I get thoughtful post and opinions. :P

 

Well... if Solas succeeds with only minor destruction, then a human being married to an elf might be a good thing.  As long as Solas' success means the modern elves have their conscious connection to the Fade restored, that is. Then you'd be one of the new overlords of Thedas.  ;) (I am kidding, mostly.)


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Well... if Solas succeeds with only minor destruction, then a human being married to an elf might be a good thing.  As long as Solas' success means the modern elves have their conscious connection to the Fade restored, that is. Then you'd be one of the new overlords of Thedas.   ;) (I am kidding, mostly.)

 

I don't think it's just modern elves, especially considering that Solas doesn't really think of them much more than other races. And so long as we believe that Sandal's prophecy is about Solas and possible tearing of the Veil "everyone will be like they were before".


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Thanks, you two!

Both answers helped me envision better things. Off to play now, I was at a crossroads when the Flirt option came up but it's going to happen! :)

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So for a change of romance, I was thinking of Josephine.

The only thing that is stopping me..is headcanon. With her being the heir of her household, I feel as an elf that I would be holding her back from a true romance of marrying a human noble and bringing her house heirs of their own without the elf blood holding her down.

 

This was the precise reason my Adaar broke off her romance with Josephine. Adaar was a conflicted young woman who wanted nothing more than to have a simple, happy, ordinary life and not be seen only for what she was -- a "monstrous" mercenary, and a mage. She found a moment of peace and love with Josephine, but let her go so Josie could have what Adaar wanted most and could never give her. It was an awesome little bit of roleplay.

 

So go for it and see what happens. A story is what you make of it. :)


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So for a change of romance, I was thinking of Josephine.

The only thing that is stopping me..is headcanon. With her being the heir of her household, I feel as an elf that I would be holding her back from a true romance of marrying a human noble and bringing her house heirs of their own without the elf blood holding her down.

Sorry for being off topic, but every time I come to this thread, I get thoughtful post and opinions. :P

 

It's like those people who were wondering about whether bisexual Josephine would really want to be with a woman. If she loves you, she loves you. Go with it. :)  Also, she has a sister who seems pretty into men who could add another generation to her family line. In case your headcanon has to do with the elf thing.



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I don't think it's just modern elves, especially considering that Solas doesn't really think of them much more than other races. And so long as we believe that Sandal's prophecy is about Solas and possible tearing of the Veil "everyone will be like they were before".

 

Well, in truth, we don't know that humans, dwarves, and Qunari like Sten and Iron Bull had a conscious connection to the Fade prior to Solas creating the Veil. In fact, it seems likely that dwarves were mindless servants of the Titans until Solas and Mythal did something to them (at least that is one of the hypotheses I have seen floating around).  Qunari may well not have existed, and may be returned to being dragons and some flavour of humanoid, if that hypothesis holds and Sandal's prophecy applies to what Solas is up to. We don't know when the kossith would have been created, for lack of a better word, since Thedas has no records of them until -410 Ancient. And all we know about human origins is that they apparently appeared in Thedas around -3100 Ancient. In fact, the ancient humans seem not to have had magic. The first human mages learned magic from the Old Gods in dreams.

 

From the timeline in WoT Vol. 1 (pg 12):

 

-2800 Ancient: The Old Gods are said to begin whispering to humanity from the Black City. They teach the Dreamers of the Neromenian tribes magic. Power shifts, and these Dreamers become both priests and kings among their people.

 

And from WoT Vol. 1 (pg 26) under  the heading "Early Human Tribes":

 

Neromenian: Believed to be the first humans in Thedas, the Neromenians fought early battles with the elves and were also the first humans to practice magic.

 

I am sort of thinking that Solas created the Veil prior to -3100 Ancient, and the appearance of humans in Thedas (and perhaps their very origin) is a by-product of the separation of the Fade from the "real" world. And I think that something about that explains why half-elves look fully human. But I don't know exactly what, or how, yet.

 

Edited to add: Uh, top of the page, so I guess I have to post a picture... I have none - will a song that someone from Dragon Age Confessions thought was perfect for Solavellan [hell] work instead?

 



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Well, in truth, we don't know that humans, dwarves, and qunari had a conscious connection to the Fade prior to Solas creating the Veil.

 

Solas states in Trespasser that he does what he does because "the Veil has cut most people's conscious connection to the Fade", hence it was like walking among Tranquil. He never specifies in that bit that 'most people' are just ancient elves, in fact I assume his plan is entirely about restoring everyone to how they were before (or modern people's ancestors were before). If that is true, then his claim that "the return of my people means the end of yours" (no matter of Quizzy's race) makes a lot of sense.

 

 

In fact, it seems likely that dwarves were mindless servants of the Titans (at least that is one of the hypotheses I have seen floating around).  

 

I myself doubt it - the dwarves are intimately connected with the Stone and Titans, but judging form what happens to Valta, there's more to dwarves than just being mindless Titan's workers. In fact, the dwarves themselves appear to be as ancient as elves, and elves apparently drove them under the ground - which might have resulted in dwarves warping into a diminished form of themselves, or being enslaved by the elves, who knows?*

 

*according to hints here http://dragonage.wik...oads,_Section_2 and here http://dragonage.wik...oads,_Section_3

 

 

Qunari may well not have existed, or may be returned to being dragons and some flavour of humanoid, if that hypothesis holds. We don't know when they would have been created, for lack of a better word, since Thedas has no records of them until -410 Ancient. And all we know about human origins is that they apparently appeared in Thedas around -3100 Ancient. In fact, the ancient humans seem not to have had magic. The first human mages learned magic from the Old Gods in dreams.

 

You can't "learn magic" unless you have a connection to the Fade/are an untrained mage first in Thedas. Besides - wasn't it blood magic that Old Gods taught them? Because judging from Avvar relationship with spirits, humans knew how to teach their mages self-control and spell-casting for a long while.

 

So either that or whether humans or Qunari existed before is irrelevant - IMO at least, because I'm still waiting for a bombshell to drop about most/all races in Thedas actually originating from elves, or being "the People" underneath it all, only Stuff Happened and most of them forgot what that meant.

 

Solas does say to Inky after all "the Veil took everything from the elves - even themselves". Modern elves are likely the last echo - ones that are closest to how things were, but that's about it: they retain heir old blood and closer connection to the Fade, but not much other than that and that remnant of ancient identity is tenuous and on the verge of extinction. Even their offspring from human-elf union turns out to be entirely human, seemingly in every respect.


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http://maicakes.devi...Dance-581341868

 

Solas and a Gerbil (a miniature giant space gerbil?)

http://yaralia.devia...bbles-583147740

 

Solas and Blackwall sketches

http://sicarius8.dev...ketch-583235113


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*snip*

 

You bring up some fine points, but I think there's room for a lot of different interpretations based on the information we have. The BioWare writers are good at keeping us guessing! :) I find the "return of my people means the end of yours" line especially ambiguous. It could mean what either of us suggest in our posts, or it could mean something entirely different.

 

Gonna go to spoiler mode because wall of text...

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#147125
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Art post.

 

Aimo's selling her Winter Warmer art prints over at her online store! :wizard:

 

Oh, My Heart. (Solavellan) <3

 

Egg-grab. Solas in an Adventure Time AU? (This actually made me laugh. :lol: )

 

A cute Solavellan Christmas card.  ^_^


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