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So just created a new game with a human Mage who is extremely religious, full of herself, believes strongly in everything she's been taught about spirits and the fade being dangerous, and is very pro-circle. Solas hates her guts and it kinda makes me a little happy after how many times he's made me have the feels. Does this make me an awful person lol

 

I'm still planning an eventual human playthrough with an Andrastian human mage, and rather overly serious at first (but that changes when she falls for Sera), pro-Circle/Chantry, will ally with the Templars, keep the Wardens, who takes Vivienne as a mentor. Solas is going to love her.


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I'm still planning an eventual human playthrough with an Andrastian human mage, and rather overly serious at first (but that changes when she falls for Sera), pro-Circle/Chantry, will ally with the Templars, keep the Wardens, who takes Vivienne as a mentor. Solas is going to love her.


That is pretty much my girl though she is going for Cullen instead of for Sera. I'm gonna do a Qun when I do my Sera run. Still haven't decided what I'm gonna have her do with the Wardens. Character wise it could go either way but given how she tends to be very black and white with things I don't know that she'd be able to forgive the use of blood magic. It'll kill me to say no to them though. I swear that get sad puppy dog eyes when you do. The one game I did that I felt bad the whole rest of my pay through lol

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I slept for like 13 hours :mellow:, excuse the later reply:

 

Does anyone know what/who this statue is supposed to be?

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Picture number two would indicate that it is Dumat, but why would an Old God be present in Elven temples and holy places? Any ideas?

 

Those statues have the potential to be possessed. They can be used for binding, like in Merrill's story and the one in the Western Approach (The Thing in the Dark: This statue is oddly warm to the touch and shivers slightly, as though it might have a pulse). They have a bit of blood on them too, which would fit with blood magic.

 

Also, 1111 posts - :wizard: reoccurring numbers.


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Got another Dwarf comment out of Cole:

 

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Did the Dwarves sell themselves or their titan to the Elves? Maybe for protection.


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Got another Dwarf comment out of Cole:

 

Mkn1qzn.jpg

 

Did the Dwarves sell themselves or their titan to the Elves? Maybe for protection.

 

I think what they sell is lyrium.  :)


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Yep, the dwarves have the lyrium market cornered. :)


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I think what they sell is lyrium.   :)

 

:lol: Is it that obvious! This is what happens when you expect Cole to be cryptic all the time.


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Art post.

 

The holy and the cursed. Another beautiful Solavellan artwork by nipuni:wub:

 

Solas and Lavellan kissing.

 

“Well,” you say, a little weakly. “Consider yourself distracted.” Lovely artwork of Solas from Keeping Secrets, drawn by Fen'Inan:blush:

 

Beautiful Solas tarot card. <3

 

Gorgeous artwork of Solas at the Hissing Wastes by rhodaperdition.

 

A younger, wilder Solas.

 

Nice Solas sketch.


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Hi all!

 

I hope everyone's week has been fabulous so far... I had a brutal first week or so after the New Year -- deadlines and all sorts of yucky work stuff I was completely not in the mood to do. Bleah.

 

And then I quoted something like 17 posts to respond to here and... one wrong mouse click and poof. They're all gone. I'm so bummed. I had so many things I wanted to say! But no wall of text today, darn it. But as always it was wonderful to read all the latest theories and fan-fictions too, and to look at the latest fan art.

 

Meanwhile, as threatened, I have finally posted my "Devasted in Dumptown: Lavellan's Post-Solas Breakup Tavern Crawl" piece, so I hope you like it and that it at least gives you a chuckle or two:

 

http://archiveofouro...g/works/5705719

 

It's completely ridiculous, but it made me laugh, and it was (even more importantly) extremely cathartic for my incredible emotions after Solas dumped me (well, my Quizzie, but it sure felt like me) in my second playthrough. So I hope y'all enjoy it. Meanwhile, while we're talking about our sweet Elvish wolf, I was very sad at the loss of the Goblin King yesterday, darn it, so posting this gave me a few smiles at least.  Here's a taste:

 

LAVELLAN: So yes. Fine. I got a Bull-crush. After all, Bull’s prettier than he first appears. 
DORIAN: It sneaks up on you.
CASSANDRA: As unlikely as it sounds, I agree with you.
THE IRON BULL (pleased): Thank you, Seeker.
CASSANDRA: Don’t quote me. I am intoxicated and shall never admit it again.
LAVELLAN (caressing Bull’s arm): Those biceps, right? And he’s so insightful too. And funny!
DORIAN: Hands off, naughty girl.
LAVELLAN: Oops. Sorry.
THE IRON BULL: I don’t mind. Also, thank you, Boss.
DORIAN: Hands!
LAVELLAN: Aw. I’m grieving, not dead. So sure, I looked. Maybe flirted. Once. But I'd already had that stupid dream kiss. So congrats, Dorian, he's all yours. No fun Bull sex for me.
DORIAN: Yay me! Now paws off, darling.
LAVELLAN: Lucky bastard. Both of you. Bastards. Wait, now I’m confused on which one I’m more jealous of. Now I feel weird.
DORIAN: Awkward!
THE IRON BULL: Ha. Doesn’t have to be. I’m sure we could work something out.
LAVELLAN: Don’t even kid about a thing like that.
DORIAN: He’s kidding. You are kidding, right?
THE IRON BULL: Absolutely.
DORIAN: Thank the Maker. I may have soiled my armor. Slightly. 
CASSANDRA: Is that everyone?
LAVELLAN:  Well, Josie seemed like she was crushing on Blackwall, so no point there. Leliana’s gorgeous but terrifying. 
SERA: I know, right?
LELIANA: I’m not always scary. I can be fun.
VARRIC: I’m… Yes. I’m sure you can.
LELIANA: I CAN BE FUN.
SERA: Huh. You wish.
LAVELLAN: Besides, like I said, at this point, I'd already kind of slirted with Folas --
VIVIENNE: Flirted. With. Solas. Although heaven knows why.
LAVELLAN: What she said. Sholas.
DORIAN: Solas...
SERA: Smurfy-Elfy-Sh*tpants.
LAVELLAN: That's what I said, Folas... and I thought, no, I'm gonna go for the quiet guy. The quiet ones never break your hearts. This time it will all work out.  So no Bull-riding for me. Poof. Then it all went wrong.
THE IRON BULL: It’s so sad. I do like everyone to go home happy.
LAVELLAN: So I’ve heard. But I blew it. I could have been having hot sex all over Skyhold. At least once! Just once!
COLE: The Iron Bull, she just pictured you and the War-Table, and there were ribbons and –
DORIAN, VIVIENNE and LAVELLAN: No!
VIVIENNE: Hmm. My word.
CASSANDRA: Cole. Do not finish that sentence.
COLE: Sorry.
CASSANDRA: Unless you wish to tell it to me later.
THE IRON BULL: Ha. Interesting.
LAVELLAN: But nooooo, noooo, noooo. No War-Table sexytimes for me. Instead I got a few lousy pucker-ups and then -- just when I think I'm -- finally -- going -- to get some – NOTHING!
 
She puts her head down on the table, weeping.
 
VIVIENNE: Oh, darling, seriously. We must try to hold on to what little dignity we still possess.
LAVELLAN (muffled, still face-down): I have no dignity.
VIVIENNE: We’re quite aware.
LAVELLAN: This table is so nice. It feels so good on my face.
KREM: Chief, should we tell her the Chargers were sitting up here last night doing shots? 
VARRIC: I’m gonna vote no on that one.
CASSANDRA: Definitely not.
THE IRON BULL: And it was no-pants-Friday.
DORIAN: Charming.
VIVIENNE: Thank you for that lovely mental image.
THE IRON BULL: Welcome, ma’am. Sorry, ma'am.
 
Lavellan sits up, enraged at a new thought. Her hair has reached a new low. She needs a tissue. And there is now a peanut stuck to her face.
 
LAVELLAN: And speaking of my face! Look at me. 
COLE: Aw, you have a peanut stuck to your cheek! The squirrels will want to be friends with you!
LAVELLAN: No! Not that! I’m not Dalish anymore! I’m a blank! I let him take my Vallaslin! 
THE IRON BULL: I thought you didn’t have any sex…?
LAVELLAN: My Vallaslin! My Falish dace tattoo!
THE IRON BULL: Oh. That.
 

Anyway, it's totally dumb and ridiculous but it was lots of fun to write, and I got to use some of my real-life playwriting skills (or lack thereof), so it was a fun exercise. And definitely consoled my inner Lavellan after her Solas dumpage.


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*snip*

 

 

 

I went on AO3 and read your full thing and it was hilarious.  I especially loved the bit about Cullen for some reason and poor Blackwell.  Too good for people to have a crush on T-T.  Also kind of made me wish I had gone with a mage for my Quizzy instead of a rogue just so I could imagine her chasing Solas around trying to set his pants on fire after he shredded her heart to tiny itsy bitsy pieces.


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I slept for like 13 hours :mellow:, excuse the later reply:

 

 

Those statues have the potential to be possessed. They can be used for binding, like in Merrill's story and the one in the Western Approach (The Thing in the Dark: This statue is oddly warm to the touch and shivers slightly, as though it might have a pulse). They have a bit of blood on them too, which would fit with blood magic.

 

Also, 1111 posts - :wizard: reoccurring numbers.

 

I'm glad you finally managed to get some sleep!  :)

 

You might be right about the demon-binding thing, although it does not explain why the same statue was used for both an Elven god and a Tevinter god. Then again, it might be as Lynroy said and it was simply reused without further thought. I'm still kind of hoping that there is more to them, they fascinate me for some reason!

 

Oh, and Patrick Weekes tweeted:

 

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Another successful "Well, I don't see why that WOULDN'T work" from the technical folks! WOOOO! #WriterScripting

 

That's got to mean that they are in pre-production (or at least preparing for going into it), right? Please, I need to know that they are working on it! My body and soul craves for info on a new DA-game!


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I think what they sell is lyrium.   :)

 

What's the "blood that walks", though? Lyrium doesn't walk. (At least it hasn't, till we got red templar behemoths.)

 

I'm sure he's talking about lyrium in the last sentence. I'm just confused by the first one.

 

Also, this apparently confirms that dwarves did once dream, when they were connected to the titans? Interesting. 


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Oh, and Patrick Weekes tweeted:

 

 Patrick Weekes

Another successful "Well, I don't see why that WOULDN'T work" from the technical folks! WOOOO! #WriterScripting

 

That's got to mean that they are in pre-production (or at least preparing for going into it), right? Please, I need to know that they are working on it! My body and soul craves for info on a new DA-game!

 

YES! I saw that yesterday on my twitter feed and I was all "Yes, work on DA4, head writer, work hard on it so that we can play it soon!" (But not so soon that they don't have time to do it well, of course.)

 

What's the "blood that walks", though? Lyrium doesn't walk. (At least it hasn't, till we got red templar behemoths.)

 

I'm sure he's talking about lyrium in the last sentence. I'm just confused by the first one.

 

Also, this apparently confirms that dwarves did once dream, when they were connected to the titans? Interesting. 

 

The blood that walks, etc. is the most cryptic part of that Cole-statement, I agree. For now, all I can think is that the Stone is the Titans, and 'the blood that walks' is the dwarves, but I'm not sure that's right.


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The blood that walks, etc. is the most cryptic part of that Cole-statement, I agree. For now, all I can think is that the Stone is the Titans, and 'the blood that walks' is the dwarves, but I'm not sure that's right.

 

Agreed, that's the best thing I can think of, at the moment, too. I mean.. I suppose if you think of the dwarves as part of the titan's immune system or something. Part of its body. Then maybe you can call them "the blood that walks". But every other titan blood reference we've ever had has been referring to lyrium, not dwarves themselves.

 

Perhaps this is hinting the dwarven race started as lyrium made flesh? If lyrium allows dreaming, aka a connection to the Fade and the world of spirits, and Titans have lyrium as their blood, it stands to reason Titans have a connection to the Fade and they (at least used to) dream. Perhaps there are spirits who interacted with the Titan in the fade and found they could use the lyrium in Titans as a medium to gain bodies? Like lyrium ghost!Leliana, in a sense. It could also be thought of as some weird form of possession, I think, though it'd be with consent since the Titans don't seem to reject their dwarves. And this might have resulted in the  dwarven hivemind we've seen hinted at cus the spirits were still symbiotically attached to their respective Titan. As opposed to the spirits above ground who manifested as individual, singular elves through force of will alone.  

 

And my theorizing is running wild now. lol But, yeah. Point is I agree, its still up in the air.

 

 

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I love everyone in this. "Falish dace tattoo" ROFL Oh this made me laugh. Thank you.


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I went on AO3 and read your full thing and it was hilarious.  I especially loved the bit about Cullen for some reason and poor Blackwell.  Too good for people to have a crush on T-T.  Also kind of made me wish I had gone with a mage for my Quizzy instead of a rogue just so I could imagine her chasing Solas around trying to set his pants on fire after he shredded her heart to tiny itsy bitsy pieces.

 

Thanks so much! I so appreciate your checking it out. And it was a lot of fun (and very cathartic) to write.

 

For some reason, the part that still makes me laugh out loud is where Lavellan admits to her crush on Cullen, Cassandra's, like, "It's not just me?" and the WHOLE BAR goes, "IT'S NOT JUST YOU." I mean, that's just so Cullen. He seems so oblivious to how gorgeous he is, and it's so funny to me.

 

(I was so glad my Solasmance Lavellen was a mage specifically so that she could end by shooting fireballs at Solas's pants while yelling "TAKE THAT! TAARSIDATH-AN HALSAAM, ELFYSH*TS!" It was weirdly satisfying. I'm a simple person at heart.)



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What's the "blood that walks", though? Lyrium doesn't walk. (At least it hasn't, till we got red templar behemoths.)

 

I'm sure he's talking about lyrium in the last sentence. I'm just confused by the first one.

 

Also, this apparently confirms that dwarves did once dream, when they were connected to the titans? Interesting. 

The way I interpret it, is that the dwarves were at some point, actually part of the Titans as an organism.

 

This severing is something the elves did, probably starting with Mythal; they cut them loose, or severed them from their connection to the Titans, as the elves wanted to mine the lyrium that boosted their magic, and likely made things like eluvians and the Well of Sorrows possible (if you recall, the stone can record memories), and couldn't do so with the dwarves fighting them tooth and nail defending their Titan. I'm wondering if this severing is what gave Solas the idea for the Veil, or if the Veil was originally planned as something smaller, a spell created intitally to subdue the Titans, and he amplified it to take out the Evanuris and the Titans both, because shutting them both down was the only way he could contain the Blight ( and Mythal's murder meant there would be no other recourse).

 

Dwarves return to the "Stone" when they die - I've always taken this to mean that any dwarves whose corpses aren't kept away from the stone, are somehow absorbed back into it - this certainly seems to be what happens to Lt. Renn in Descent. His body just disappears.

 

They are the "blood that walks" because they are/were internally integral to the Titans (who appear to be, until Descent, sleeping), enough so that the elves considered them mindless, soulless slaves (like say, blood cells inside a vein) and which the Sha-Brytol seemed to resemble, probably still have a certain amount of lyrium inborn in their bodies that connects them to the stone, creating "stone sense" and magic resistance.

 

Those are my interpretations, at least. 


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What's the "blood that walks", though? Lyrium doesn't walk. (At least it hasn't, till we got red templar behemoths.)

 

I think it's the titans / shapers. The Chant of Light:
 

Seven times seventy men of stone immense
Rose up from the earth like sleepers waking at the dawn,
Crossing the land with strides immeasureable,
And in the hollows of their footprints
Paradise was stamped, indelible.

 

There are gate guardians with the lyrium control rods (codex here), and those that Meredith set off in Kirkwall with her red lyrium.

 

Kieran comments that Dwarves "can't be taller, not without the titans".

 

Valta says, “It shapes the Stone. It is the Stone. It sculpts the world within and without.”

 

The Elves wanted Elgar'nan to stop the titans from shaping: Give us victory, over the Earth that shakes our cities.

 

Dagna says after studying a rune that she felt mountain-tall, moving and as if around all her people, their combined thoughts constituting her thought like parts.

 

Cole says, "Their ancient shapers were mountains drawn of all their wills, walking their memories into valleys of the world".


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Art post.

 

Adorable Solavellan family going for a walk in the forest.

 

Lovely figure sketches of Solas and Lavellan by kallielef.

 

Looking Glass fanart: Lavellan and a crying Pride. :(

 

A hypothetical hopeful reunion. (Solavellan)

 

Sleepy Solas and Lavellan.

 

Awesome Star Wars AU artwork of Sith Solas by nipuni

 

Naked Pride by Fen'Inan. (NSFW for nudity and Solas' lovely butt.)  :blush: 

 

Gorgeous sketch of Solas again by Fen'Inan. <3

 

Lovely Sketches of Solas.

 

Solas portrait.

 

Cole putting a blanket over sleepy Solas.


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The way I interpret it, is that the dwarves were at some point, actually part of the Titans as an organism.

 

Not sure about organism per se, but they definitely seem to be part of a collective consciousness that creates the Titan. Cole, after all, tells us on different occasions "Their ancient shapers were mountains drawn of all their wills, walking their memories into valleys of the world" and, in Descent "It's singing. As they that's an it that's asleep, but still making music".

 

 

This severing is something the elves did, probably starting with Mythal; they cut them loose, or severed them from their connection to the Titans, as the elves wanted to mine the lyrium that boosted their magic, and likely made things like eluvians and the Well of Sorrows possible (if you recall, the stone can record memories), and couldn't do so with the dwarves fighting them tooth and nail defending their Titan.

 

I don't think it's just that. I think it was generally about claiming Earth as their domain and, again, as Cole said it in Trespasser "They made bodies from the earth. And the earth was afraid. It fought back. But they made it forget." And Solas tells us during encounter with spirit of command that "The body is both a shackle and strength". I think the Evanuris were interested both with both that shackle and strength. Who knows, perhaps it was about manufacturing solid bodies spirits could inhabit (instead of spirits just doing that out of their own free will, like Cole), thanks to which they've eventually enslaved entire population. 

 

We also know from rune found on Deep Roads Soals' mural that they've mined the Titans for 'something else' aside form lyrium - probably something that exists under the base of those giants trees we sometimes see (Mythal's temple, Frostback Basin).

 

Anyway, from a few hints here and there (most made by Cole, obviously) I gather that by severing them (Stone, Titans, Dwarves) or 'making them forget' means that in some way they've must've either severed, or seriously diminshed Titan's connection to the Fade and then incapacitated them by making them forget how to wake up or re-connect by placing massive sigils above them, like the ones the existence of which is hinted at through gates of Segrummar in Descent. 

 

I'm wondering if this severing is what gave Solas the idea for the Veil, or if the Veil was originally planned as something smaller, a spell created intitally to subdue the Titans, and he amplified it to take out the Evanuris and the Titans both, because shutting them both down was the only way he could contain the Blight ( and Mythal's murder meant there would be no other recourse).

 

Which makes me wonder... is Solas only planning to return the surface world to how it was after (presumed) Titans' defeat, or does he mean to restore the Titans as well? We know the entire region was shaking just because of one Titan stirring (and Valta tells us that it was caused by the opening of the Breach in the Veil), so can you imagine what would happen if all of them suddenly woke up? Like Inquisitor said to Valta, when she protested the idea that Titans shaped the world by destroying it - "depending on the perspective, change could be violent".

 

It's possible that this is what Solas meant by "raw chaos" - when he lifts the Veil, the Titans/Stone will reclaim the earth and shape it back to how it was before. Thing is, nobody would be really able to survive this reshaping, since the world will be ripped apart by cataclysm that will make Emmerich's 2012 movie shenanigans look like hiccups:

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It's possible that it wouldn't matter though, since every living being's spirits may as well be released to the Fade at that point, waiting for a time when they could manifest back in the world re-shaped by Titans.

 

 

They are the "blood that walks" because they are/were internally integral to the Titans (who appear to be, until Descent, sleeping), enough so that the elves considered them mindless, soulless slaves (like say, blood cells inside a vein) and which the Sha-Brytol seemed to resemble, probably still have a certain amount of lyrium inborn in their bodies that connects them to the stone, creating "stone sense" and magic resistance.

 

According to Valta the Sha-Brytol have corrupted themselves to monsters and the Titan doesn't really care about them ("They fear me. They love me. They understand I am a part of the Titan they defend, but they don't realize it doesn't need their protection. It never has. Whoever these dwarves once were, whatever motives drove them to remain here, now they are only lost").

 

I don't think Sha-Brytol is how ancient dwarves looked like at all. I think this is how they look when the 'impure' try and commune with the Titan.

 

Look at Valta after all: she tells us that she is 'pure' and unlike Sha-Brytol she is coherent, enlightened even, she tells us that the Titan has calmed down when it felt connection with one of its children (if Sha-Brytol where considered to be so, why didn't it calm down before?) and is capable of casting some sort of spells, unlike any Sha-Brytol we've met (they used mechanisms to hurl lyrium bullets on our teams, not magic of any sort). Later, she even manages to keep in contact with Inquisition through materializing pages of her journal, seemingly out of thin air. 

 

So the 'soulless, mindless" things elves mentioned are either not dwarves at all, or are dwarves that have already been severed or corrupted. In fact, perhaps they may even mean darkspawn, or darkspawn protoplasts. Nobody said that the Titans the elves wanted to hunt were not corrupted by Bligh already. Actually, what if this is what Solas has disrupted? The hunt on corrupted Titans the blood and power contained withing Evanuris thought will bolster their powers?

 

As for "blood that walks" - I think those are not just dwarves. Those are probably every living, sentient beings with blood, be it dwarves, elves or humans.


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After leaving the Inquisition, I directed a music video with Solas. We filmed all over Thedas, some of my favorite locations were on the Storm Coast and the Exalted Plains. Solas never tired from all the running and leaping, and he performed all of his own stunts, like Harrison Ford. 

 

After Dragon Age: Inquisition, I became pretty obsessed, not unlike all the other fans on here. Also working on another video of my Solavellan story. if you like this one, stay tuned  <3

 

 

Truly,

 

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Not much art for me to share lately :(

 

Solas meditating

http://rotlunatik.de...Solas-584148272

 

Motivational Solas

http://static-byte.d...Solas-584109335

 

Face the Wolf

http://yaralia.devia...-Wolf-584232795


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Art post. 

 

Gorgeous Lavellan necromancer tarot card with Fen'Harel in the background.

 

Gorgeous sketch of Ma'alin Lavellan and Solas from the fic, The Fox and the Wolf. Art by thetaiwanesedartjob:wub:

 

Lie still. Another beautiful artwork of Solas by nipuni. <3

Inspired by this song/poem by Solas' VA.

 

Pretty artwork of Solas napping in the forest.

 

Different faces of Solas.

 

Solas meditating.

 

Adorable sad Solas by lilium-snow.

 

DA:I voice actors as their characters! :D

Gareth David-Lloyd as Solas, Miranda Raison as Cassandra, and Claudia Black as Morrigan.

 

Lavellan is tired of your sh*t, Sera. Oh my. :P


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Awwwwww.... Did you see this?  ^-^

 

Varric mentions Solas

by Albaharu

 

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I am suddenly tempted to listen to Lost Elf because it's late night and I suppose I want to torture myself.


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I am suddenly tempted to listen to Lost Elf because it's late night and I suppose I want to torture myself.

 

I find myself hesitant to listen to Lost Elf just for the simple reason that doing so still makes me burst into tears. :crying: I love that track and the Dread Wolf theme but yeah, they still make me sad. (And I haven't played through Trespasser yet because I'm still hooked on Fallout 4.  :unsure: One day...)


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