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[Riot Inducer]

Alright so I'm trying to write up a plausible plan that Solas might have to tear the veil down for my next fic.  I wanted to run a theory through here to see if it was plausible or too crazy.

 

Is it possible Solas could be having the artifacts activated because they will somehow allow him to tear the veil down in some places but leave it up in others?  The reason he might want to do this is so that the areas were the Evanuris are sealed will stay separated while the rest is torn down.  I just can't see Solas going through all that work to seal them only to tear it all down knowing that they will probably continue to be generally awful beings.  Also why would he go through all the trouble with the artifacts?  I mean yeah it could just be some random errand quest BioWare threw in but from a story stand point he must have a reason yes?

 

 

I've always thought there had to be  more to those things given his overall plans. I'm pretty sure they can do more than passively measure/strengthen the veil. At this point I'd say it's totally valid to fanfic additional uses/capabilities for those artifacts.

 

In related news Solas had a party banter the other day that made me want to smack him.

 

Solas: I will remember this. When it is over.

Blackwall: This? This war? The Inquisition?

Solas: The people. How you fought against the tide. It is...courageous. 

[BoscoBread]

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[Giton]

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[Zaerath]

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[Zaerath]

Alright so I'm trying to write up a plausible plan that Solas might have to tear the veil down for my next fic. I wanted to run a theory through here to see if it was plausible or too crazy.

Is it possible Solas could be having the artifacts activated because they will somehow allow him to tear the veil down in some places but leave it up in others? The reason he might want to do this is so that the areas were the Evanuris are sealed will stay separated while the rest is torn down. I just can't see Solas going through all that work to seal them only to tear it all down knowing that they will probably continue to be generally awful beings. Also why would he go through all the trouble with the artifacts? I mean yeah it could just be some random errand quest BioWare threw in but from a story stand point he must have a reason yes?

Does Solas actually say that he wants to free the Evanuris anywhere? I got the impression that he wants to tear down the Veil without freeing the Evanuris. I think that Evanuris are sealed not only behind the Veil but also with use of Eluvians (in those "inbetween places) so tearing down the Veil won't free them. Maybe it'll make their escape more possible, especially with the ongoing resurrection of the Eluvian Network.
If they were pretty awful when he sealed them up there's no way they would be any better after millennia of confinement. It doesn't make sense, right? I don't think Solas would be that irresponsible. Anyway, the world might need to reconnect to the Fade but I don't see why the hell would it need the Evanuris.

So, the artifacts. I'm not firmly in clan they-don't-strenghten-the-Veil-they-weaken-it but I think the artifacts may serve more than one purpose. For some reason I believe Solas when he says the Veil is stronger after I activate it. If he were lying spirits/demons would've swarmed those areas, maybe even couple more rifts popped up. But at the same time I do think that the artifacts will help him tear down the Veil.
How to combine those, you say? I think the artifacts are kind of a hook or a probe in the Veil. But they are not fully autonomous, they are linked directly to Solas. When he installed them he put them into "strengthen mode" so when Inqui activates them they really do measure and strengthen the Veil. But the moment Solas would be ready, he'll push a metaphorical Big Red Button in his head and all those pretty globes switch into the "tear that **** down" mode.

I'm not sure the Veil can be brought down in patches? On one hand, Solas always says things like "the Veil is thin here" but I don't think we actually got any concrete evidence that thin=young, thick=old theory is true, did we? On the other hand, I always got the impression that you can't tear down the Veil in some places and keep it in the others. I mean, how would that work? Wouldn't the Fade just seep through the Veil-free patches just going around the Veil that is left? Furthermore, Solas says that it's not much of a physical barrier, that is just an oversimplification used by the Chantry. So you probably can't just cut some parts out and leave others.

[CapricornSun]

Art post.

 

Pretty Solavellan artwork.

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Source: http://kimikoyukiart...its-been-awhile

 

 

Lavellan keeping watch as Solas sleeps.

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Source: http://pridetothefal...t-me-keep-watch

 

 

Solas and Lavellan as demigod parents.

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Source: http://millennium-fa...to-create-life 

 

 

Solas relaxing in a hot spring by kallielef. 

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Source: http://kallielef.tum...estream-was-fun

 

 

Solas bends a lot. By umabbas. 

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Source: http://umabbas.tumbl...keeping-secrets

 

 

What I've Become. Trespasser Solas.

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Source: http://tevinity.tumb...-first-fenharel

 

 

Gorgeous artwork of concept!Solas.

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Source: http://ysvyri.tumblr...-in-his-concept

 

 

Emoji meme: Solas and Lavellan smoking.

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Source: http://destinyaposta...solas-b1-and-e7

 

 

Emoji meme: Silly Solas.

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Source: http://destinyaposta...9-silly-solas-3

 

 

Emoji meme: Er, some very light debauchery with Solas. (NSFW for the gesture he's making.  )

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Source: http://destinyaposta...destinyapostasy

 

 

Emoji meme: "Show me how to please you." Pride from feynite's Looking Glass.  (NSFW-ish?)

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Source: http://destinyaposta...stasy-i-see-all

 

 

Artist has feelings about Solas' floof. 

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Source: http://cheesiestart....-grandpas-floof

 

 

ERMAHGERD THE FERD.

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Source: http://geeky-jez.tum...ts-just-take-it

 

 

Egg meets egg. Saitama from One Punch Man meets Solas.

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Source: http://dinojay.tumbl...pe-and-its-bald

 

[ChuChu]

 

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Source: http://dinojay.tumbl...pe-and-its-bald

 

I can't help but wonder if I inspired this comic at all, or if two minds think alike xD

[FernRain]

 

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Wow. Terrifying .

[LadyKarrakaz]

Certainly already posted here, but Solas' voice actor singing a poem here.

[thaali]

Does Solas actually say that he wants to free the Evanuris anywhere? I got the impression that he wants to tear down the Veil without freeing the Evanuris. I think that Evanuris are sealed not only behind the Veil but also with use of Eluvians (in those "inbetween places) so tearing down the Veil won't free them. Maybe it'll make their escape more possible, especially with the ongoing resurrection of the Eluvian Network.
If they were pretty awful when he sealed them up there's no way they would be any better after millennia of confinement. It doesn't make sense, right? I don't think Solas would be that irresponsible. Anyway, the world might need to reconnect to the Fade but I don't see why the hell would it need the Evanuris.

 

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Lots of good thoughts on it and your right about the Veil now that I think of it.  It probably wouldn't be possible to tear it down in parts and not others.

 

That is what I was saying about the Evanuris though. Of course Solas wouldn't do anything to release them.  The issue is the veil was created to seal them away so wouldn't tearing it down release them?  Unless he has found a way to circumvent this now but in the past if he could seal them without the veil why wouldn't he have done that?  So that means he must have a way around it now.  That or they are sealed in an additional area besides the veil but, again, why create the veil then if they were already sealed?  Or maybe he has discovered a way to actually kill them... still seems really risky to do something that would release them or potentially release them.  Unless he thinks them being released would be a price worth paying to have things back as they were, that doesn't seem right but then again it seemed off to me that Solas would still be insistent on tearing down the veil in the first place after he became so close, and even fell in love, so knows they aren't just shells.

[NightSymphony]

More Art

 

Quick Solas and Lavellan sketch

http://monstertree-a...henan-586395244

 

Beautiful Solas and Lavellan Tarot Card

http://steftastan.de...Solas-586321984

 

Solas casting a spell

http://cookiesforsol...spell-586408933

 

Gorgeous Lavellan

http://le-shae.devia.../Inky-586387974

 

 

 

Throwing in some Mass Effect because it's so cute! (The Vakarian Family) 

http://scarlett-aimp...milly-586216076

[Zaerath]

Lots of good thoughts on it and your right about the Veil now that I think of it.  It probably wouldn't be possible to tear it down in parts and not others.

 

That is what I was saying about the Evanuris though. Of course Solas wouldn't do anything to release them.  The issue is the veil was created to seal them away so wouldn't tearing it down release them?  Unless he has found a way to circumvent this now but in the past if he could seal them without the veil why wouldn't he have done that?  So that means he must have a way around it now.  That or they are sealed in an additional area besides the veil but, again, why create the veil then if they were already sealed?  Or maybe he has discovered a way to actually kill them... still seems really risky to do something that would release them or potentially release them.  Unless he thinks them being released would be a price worth paying to have things back as they were, that doesn't seem right but then again it seemed off to me that Solas would still be insistent on tearing down the veil in the first place after he became so close, and even fell in love, so knows they aren't just shells.

 

I am also confused by that :/

 

It made me realise that we don't actually know anything about the banishing of the Evanuris and creating the Veil. Sure, we know it happened, that Solas did it and the Veil was created in Skyhold. That's it. How is pretty important here. We don't actually know anything about the processes. "He created the Veil and sealed the Evanuris away" like it's an everyday thing! Like it's as simple as bashing them over the head and them dragging their unconscious bodies to their prisons.

 

I mean, he was just one person against 7 others and there's no indication that he was somehow inherently stronger than them. Then how did he do it? Seeing as he is the Trickster, it's not improbable that he used some kind of "trick" to accomplish the impossible. Maybe Solas created the Veil to sever them from their magic so he would be able to defeat all of them? And somehow safeguarded himself beforehand? Maybe by pouring most of his power into that pretty fingerprint orb?

 

Maybe creation of the Veil was just a tool Solas needed to trap the Evanuris, maybe it's not the Veil that holds them there. Like I said, if the Evanuris (and I really need a synonym I can refer to them with ) are actually trapped by the Eluvian network that 1) requires keys and 2) is decaying AND Solas severed them from their magic by creating the Veil, it explains why they haven't freed themselves yet. I mean, spirits and demons that are not that powerful can cross into physical world and very powerful mage-kings/queens couldn't? Unless they are all having a giant siesta there with the Titans and the Old Gods, heck, maybe the Forgotten ones too :/

 

So yeah, here are my thoughts. I think I just ended up confusing myself even more  -__-

[Solas]

I don't think he wants to release them, rather that their release will be an unfortunate side effect of tearing down the Veil, and he thinks he has a plan for dealing with that/them, but like all his plans it's probably crap and he'll make a mess

[DarthEmpress]

 

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AHHAHAHA every single time i see this i fall in love XD best drawing of solas ever tbh

[thaali]

I am also confused by that :/

 

It made me realise that we don't actually know anything about the banishing of the Evanuris and creating the Veil. Sure, we know it happened, that Solas did it and the Veil was created in Skyhold. That's it. How is pretty important here. We don't actually know anything about the processes. "He created the Veil and sealed the Evanuris away" like it's an everyday thing! Like it's as simple as bashing them over the head and them dragging their unconscious bodies to their prisons.

 

I mean, he was just one person against 7 others and there's no indication that he was somehow inherently stronger than them. Then how did he do it? Seeing as he is the Trickster, it's not improbable that he used some kind of "trick" to accomplish the impossible. Maybe Solas created the Veil to sever them from their magic so he would be able to defeat all of them? And somehow safeguarded himself beforehand? Maybe by pouring most of his power into that pretty fingerprint orb?

 

Maybe creation of the Veil was just a tool Solas needed to trap the Evanuris, maybe it's not the Veil that holds them there. Like I said, if the Evanuris (and I really need a synonym I can refer to them with ) are actually trapped by the Eluvian network that 1) requires keys and 2) is decaying AND Solas severed them from their magic by creating the Veil, it explains why they haven't freed themselves yet. I mean, spirits and demons that are not that powerful can cross into physical world and very powerful mage-kings/queens couldn't? Unless they are all having a giant siesta there with the Titans and the Old Gods, heck, maybe the Forgotten ones too :/

 

So yeah, here are my thoughts. I think I just ended up confusing myself even more  -__-

 

Ok that bit about him hitting them over the head... so many hilarious images came to mind for me right there .

 

One of the theories I like the most was that he tricked them by claiming some kind of peace talks.  Though they probably all came armed to the gills he already had a trap set for them and bam.

 

I also think it would add extra layers if they can't escape but have agents loyal to them wandering about.  I don't know the details of how that would work but it isn't totally impossible especially if you give any credit to the theory that the Evanuris (can we call them the Eva or something? XD) are the ones that gave Tevinter their blood magic.

 

I don't think he wants to release them, rather that their release will be an unfortunate side effect of tearing down the Veil, and he thinks he has a plan for dealing with that/them, but like all his plans it's probably crap and he'll make a mess

 

Most likely.  Poor Solas, so smart yet so dumb.  He reminds me of Gandalf.  If you know LOTR mythology Gandalf is actually a demi-god, he is thus super powerful and super smart (just forbidden from doing more then giving little shoves of help here and there), anyways because he is so smart he has serious issues grasping little concepts.  Like when they are trying to get into the Dwarven door that says speak friend and enter and he keeps trying really convoluted difficult answers until someone is just like "What about friend in dwarven?" and bam door opens.  That's pretty much how I see Solas, to be honest.

 

P.S. Went ahead and posted the first chapter of my new fic I've had in the works for the past several weeks.  Anyone likes it and would like to beta-read I'd love additional eyes for catching grammar/plot issues!

 

Once Upon A Dream Chapter 1 http://archiveofouro...apters/13380253

[Qun00]

I'm curious... has anyone here decided to keep the Inquisition as the honor guard?

I'd imagine it would be hard to explain why a Dalish elf would make that choice, considering their experience with military force employed by the Chantry.

And while we can trust Leliana/Cassandra not to abuse it, the same can't be said for the next Divine.

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Eyy gurl, wanna see me tear down your Veil?

[Illyria]

Birthday Happy, Thread Dad!  We love you!

 

(even though you are actually younger than me.  You're still my dad).

[Cee]

A lot of us can probably relate to this: http://babes-of-thed...-thats-not-nice

[Cee]

I don't think he wants to release them, rather that their release will be an unfortunate side effect of tearing down the Veil, and he thinks he has a plan for dealing with that/them, but like all his plans it's probably crap and he'll make a mess

 

Good, old reliable Solas.

 

And happy birthday Official thread party wizards for you!

[Cee]

I'm curious... has anyone here decided to keep the Inquisition as the honor guard?

I'd imagine it would be hard to explain why a Dalish elf would make that choice, considering their experience with military force employed by the Chantry.

And while we can trust Leliana/Cassandra not to abuse it, the same can't be said for the next Divine.

 

In my canon, the Inquisition still exists. This makes sense in my headcanon but we'll see what the consequences will be. But Nirwen kept the organization because shes close to Leliana (Divine) also the greater resources (and yes, chance of infiltration) for the duty that lies ahead, and also because she felt her life had changed enough that she had found an unexpected place and felt there was still unfinished work to be done. Not just with Solas but in helping people.

 

edit: Just finished a fic I had been working on on and off for a while, so might as well share. It began as cozy fluff between Nirwen and her first love, Nehn, then took on some plot elements, and finally decided it wanted to be smut. http://archiveofouro...g/works/5805901

[CapricornSun]

Art post.

 

Blame it on the wine. Another beautiful Solavellan artwork by nipuni. 

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Source: http://nipuni.tumblr...n-the-wine-mhmm

 

 

The winds of Haven strike again! (I don't blame you Lavellan, I'd probably stare at it as well.) 

EDIT: I just realized that Cee posted a link to this earlier but oh well, I worked hard to post these images. )

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Source: http://babes-of-thed...-thats-not-nice

 

 

He's used to it. Solas with a drunk Lavellan on his lap.

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Source: http://babes-of-thed...es-used-to-it-ツ

 

 

Sketch of Trespasser Solas covering Lavellan's eyes.

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Source: http://marmarris.tum...tches-this-time

 

 

Ir abelas, ma vhenan. (Solavellan)

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Source: http://monstertree-a...0am-why-isnt-my

 

 

Solas portrait.

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Source: http://capt-spangles...o-i-felt-like-a

 

 

Solas casting a spell.

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Source: http://monstertree-a...-laundry-to-dry

 

[thaali]

A lot of us can probably relate to this: http://babes-of-thed...-thats-not-nice

 

Thank goodness I'm not the only one!

[Zaerath]

Ok that bit about him hitting them over the head... so many hilarious images came to mind for me right there .

 

One of the theories I like the most was that he tricked them by claiming some kind of peace talks.  Though they probably all came armed to the gills he already had a trap set for them and bam.

 

I also think it would add extra layers if they can't escape but have agents loyal to them wandering about.  I don't know the details of how that would work but it isn't totally impossible especially if you give any credit to the theory that the Evanuris (can we call them the Eva or something? XD) are the ones that gave Tevinter their blood magic.

 

Most likely.  Poor Solas, so smart yet so dumb.  He reminds me of Gandalf.  If you know LOTR mythology Gandalf is actually a demi-god, he is thus super powerful and super smart (just forbidden from doing more then giving little shoves of help here and there), anyways because he is so smart he has serious issues grasping little concepts.  Like when they are trying to get into the Dwarven door that says speak friend and enter and he keeps trying really convoluted difficult answers until someone is just like "What about friend in dwarven?" and bam door opens.  That's pretty much how I see Solas, to be honest.

 

Well, I think Solas has plenty of reasons for petty revenge *cough*Andruil*cough* I always try to write her as Anduril you can't escape LOTR

 

Hm, I missed that one on my theory-binge. I still what to know what that trap/trick is because should've been something spectacular *sigh*

 

Erm, weren't the Forbidden Ones who taught them the blood magic? Or the Old Gods?

 

Omg, that's actually the best comparison! Yeah, I always laughed so hard at the door. I think there's a trope like "Too Smart To Function" or something. That suits them perfectly x)

 

Good, old reliable Solas.

 

And happy birthday Official thread party wizards for you!

 

Really?

Happy Birthday Thread Dad