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[Ginsky]

Not really sure what I'm doing here but I've just finished inquisition and trespasser and I am feeling genuinely bereft on behalf of my inquisition. I can't stop thinking about it. My husband thinks its hilarious and as an adult woman I am way to embarrassed to discuss how upset I am with anyone 'real'!! Seriously, I'm properly heart broken, my kids are waiting for their tea but instead I'm brooding and posting on here. How could you do this to me solas? And why the hell wasn't following him through the mirror an option- my lavellan would be having none of this you can't help me crap and would have steamed right after him.

I only hope the next game allows us to be in his side, not against him or I'm not sure I'll have the heart to play it.

[ladyiolanthe]

Tallis slipped my mind as I never bothered to purchase that DLC. Thank you.

I never purchased any DA2 DLC, either. I just poke around on the Dragon Age Wiki a lot.

[Solas]

I know this who Dalish are Jews/Gypsies thing is popular but I don't get it. Personally when I think Dalish I get a much stronger comparison to the Native American tribes. Strong connection to the Earth, people start arriving to North America, Europeans specifically come and f*ck everything up, who doesn't get killed off by disease is killed off in mass genocide, then they get pushed into "reservations" which if you've ever been to one they are essentially slums, where they still live today and everyone just accepts it, they also are still mistreated in many ways

I always just assumed inspiration for the elves was derived from various places: (historical and modern) Jewish people, travellers like the Romani people, indigenous peoples of the Americas and other places, and the result of turning traditional Tolkien-style elves trope on its head. All different places.

itp: me hoping that after a search I have used the correct words for these groups of people :S

That's a great point midnight tea, first thing I thought of when I learned Dalish elves travelled and had aravels etc was of Scottish travellers and Irish travellers.

[Ellawynn]

I actually *like* the fairy tale endings.  Everything doesn't have to be all surgary sweet but happy (or mostly happy) endings tend to be my favorite.  But even Cousland/Alistair endings aren't exactly fairy tale as they certainly don't live happily ever after.  

 

And that's fine, y'know? *Shrug* I don't necessarily have anything against happy endings, especially if they're done well (obviously). And I'm actually not too fond of tragic ones either, because it just leaves me feeling like the entire story is pointless. (There are exceptions to this, of course. I sort of expect prequel stories to have downer endings, because they have to set up the next installment. I also pretty much expect downer endings in horror stories - and even then, I've seen horror stories that could've reasonably ended on a positive note just... force a sad ending for no reason. I don't tend to have a lot of love for them beyond that, though.) 

 

But I prefer bittersweet endings most of all. And the Queen Cousland ending doesn't hit that mark for me (Even now, considering that every ending has the same issues as theirs, but nearly all the other endings have a heaping of troubles and tragedies on top of them). But that's just my personal preference.

 

The commoners might love them but the nobles are causing issues, they can't have heirs, Orlais is breathing down Ferelden's neck again, the queen sods off to who knows where,  Ferelden's closest ally (Kirkwall) gets attacked by qunari and then other massive chaos, the mages and templars break out into war and use Ferelden as their stomping grounds.  They may have what appears to be the fairy tale ending in DAO but it quickly goes downhill from there.

 

 

Maybe now, but at the time I was talking about DA2 hadn't even released yet, never mind Inquisition. I forget sometimes that a lot of Inquisition fans haven't even played Origins, much less that even more of them only played it years after it came out. 

 

...How do people even do that? How do they come in without playing the two previous games? Don't they feel lost? I probably would've felt lost. 

[almasy87]

 My husband thinks its hilarious and as an adult woman I am way to embarrassed to discuss how upset I am with anyone 'real'!! 

Oh I know that feeling. I wish I had more DA-obsessed friends IRL. Usually I just talk about DA with my bro and his gf on our facebook chat, just because they played the games and know about it. But it feels like I'm talking to myself most of the times cause they almost never reply or just reply with smiley emoticons, and the dialogue ends.

Sigh.

So yeah, you're totally welcome here Come into the blanket fort and cry a bit with us

[Solas]

Barnzi I love the art of your lavellans family members

[Ellawynn]

So while messing around on Tumblr I saw this post on the Breach-worshipping cultists in the Hinterlands, specifically on that one kid who has to make a potion for his mother's health, and what Solas says to him if you let him deal with it instead of just doing the quest. And more to the point, what that kid responds with.

 

"Even if this world is an illusion about to be cast off, I should make my parents comfortable."

 

My, such delicious irony.

 

(What's more to the point is this - why are those cultists worshipping the Breach? Because they think it signals the Maker's return. And what divine figure do we know was only recently roused from sleep, with the Breach's creation being his act upon waking?

 

Goddamit Solas.)

[Solas]

Especially since Chantry lore holds that the Maker made the Veil

[Elessara]

And that's fine, y'know? *Shrug* I don't necessarily have anything against happy endings, especially if they're done well (obviously). And I'm actually not too fond of tragic ones either, because it just leaves me feeling like the entire story is pointless. (There are exceptions to this, of course. I sort of expect prequel stories to have downer endings, because they have to set up the next installment. I also pretty much expect downer endings in horror stories - and even then, I've seen horror stories that could've reasonably ended on a positive note just... force a sad ending for no reason. I don't tend to have a lot of love for them beyond that, though.) 

 

But I prefer bittersweet endings most of all. And the Queen Cousland ending doesn't hit that mark for me (Even now, considering that every ending has the same issues as theirs, but nearly all the other endings have a heaping of troubles and tragedies on top of them). But that's just my personal preference.

 

 

Maybe now, but at the time I was talking about DA2 hadn't even released yet, never mind Inquisition. I forget sometimes that a lot of Inquisition fans haven't even played Origins, much less that even more of them only played it years after it came out. 

 

...How do people even do that? How do they come in without playing the two previous games? Don't they feel lost? I probably would've felt lost. 

 

True enough.  When DAO was the only game it was pretty much a fairy tale ending.  Until DAA and the epilogue said the queen disappeared mysteriously after a few years.  I'm *still* annoyed at that lol.  I tend to think about the series as a continuous thing which colours my perceptions.

 

Honestly I'm not sure how people start in the middle of a series.  I didn't start playing the ME series until ME2 was almost out but even then I couldn't start ME2 until I finished the first one.  I'm pretty sure I would be lost as well.

[midnight tea]

Maybe now, but at the time I was talking about DA2 hadn't even released yet, never mind Inquisition. I forget sometimes that a lot of Inquisition fans haven't even played Origins, much less that even more of them only played it years after it came out. 

 

...How do people even do that? How do they come in without playing the two previous games? Don't they feel lost? I probably would've felt lost. 

 

Not really  I mean sure, I lacked context for quite some things, but I wouldn't call it being lost - the way I see it, going either forward or backward means that either way we'd be acquiring information and shifting or adjusting our perspective. So the same as people who began with Origins/DAII and approached Inquisition differently I did with DAO/DAII while starting with Inquisition, lol. The whole series seems to be built around the concept of not really mattering when we start, so long as we continue exploring (be it playing all games, reading books, comics, etc), IF we want to get a fuller picture.

[midnight tea]

Anyway, some small, inconsequential "speculamusing", since I'm slightly bored - been reading about epilogue slides in Trespasser and one thing about Solavellan cards made me wonder about something.

 

"Lavellan sometimes came awake from dreams in which her lover watched her sadly from across an endless distance. If they were more than simple dreams she could not say, for every time she reached for him, he vanished into nothing. Still she searched, and dreamed, and waited, for a way to change the Dread Wolf's heart."

 

A way to change the Dread Wolf's heart... is this as straightforward as I think it is, or is there a catch? I ask because, well... SHE is his heart

[ladyiolanthe]

Anyway, some small, inconsequential "speculamusing", since I'm slightly bored - been reading about epilogue slides in Trespasser and one thing about Solavellan cards made me wonder about something.

 

"Lavellan sometimes came awake from dreams in which her lover watched her sadly from across an endless distance. If they were more than simple dreams she could not say, for every time she reached for him, he vanished into nothing. Still she searched, and dreamed, and waited, for a way to change the Dread Wolf's heart."

 

A way to change the Dread Wolf's heart... is this as straightforward as I think it is, or is there a catch? I ask because, well... SHE is his heart

 

I am slowly working on a non-smutty fiction about this exact thing, actually. It's just my way of killing time until DA4 is released, and  hopefully putting all my speculative thoughts about DAI to rest, if possible. I may post it to my AO3 account someday, when I'm happy with it.

[Ardent Blossom]

Anyway, some small, inconsequential "speculamusing", since I'm slightly bored - been reading about epilogue slides in Trespasser and one thing about Solavellan cards made me wonder about something.

 

"Lavellan sometimes came awake from dreams in which her lover watched her sadly from across an endless distance. If they were more than simple dreams she could not say, for every time she reached for him, he vanished into nothing. Still she searched, and dreamed, and waited, for a way to change the Dread Wolf's heart."

 

A way to change the Dread Wolf's heart... is this as straightforward as I think it is, or is there a catch? I ask because, well... SHE is his heart

 

Ah ha. I see what you did there. Geesh, you gave me goose pimples (and not in a good way). I don't want his heart to change...in that way anyway. I don't want my Lavellan to change such that she doesn't care anymore or something else equally depressing. Since Weekes likes to keep Solavellan Hell as ambiguous as possible that interpretation might indeed be a thing. BP

 

Hey guys! If you haven't picked up a Hermit tarot card shirt, they are currently on sale for $5.99US for PAX South. Jus' sayin'.

[Addictress]

Personally I've always been a sucker for tragedies and angst. A movie doesn't impress me unless it makes me cry. But on the road to fatalistic, tragic endings, I want wild, passionate s...scenes. Laced throughout. Darkly alluring characters with dark endings and romantic journeys. 

[Ardent Blossom]

Personally I've always been a sucker for tragedies and angst. A movie doesn't impress me unless it makes me cry. But on the road to fatalistic, tragic endings, I want wild, passionate s...scenes. Laced throughout. Darkly alluring characters with dark endings and romantic journeys. 

 

This. If a movie makes me cry, it's gold. Yet, it's a love hate thing with me. I've loved tragedy since I read Wuthering Heights in high school but, I always wish I could fix things to give my favorite tragic characters a happy ending. Of course then the artistic value would be lost, and I probably wouldn't give a darn about it all. Oh the exquisite pain of it all! Solavellan Hell must have been specifically designed to entrap crazies like me.

[Elessara]

I don't mind tragedy and angst on the way to a happy ending.  But for me, if that's all there is - sorrow, tragedy, angst, tears - I'm left with the feeling of, "Well what was the point of THAT?  Ugh."  Eh, at this point I still have some hope for Solas and Lavellan though.

[ladyiolanthe]

Ah ha. I see what you did there. Geesh, you gave me goose pimples (and not in a good way). I don't want his heart to change...in that way anyway. I don't want my Lavellan to change such that she doesn't care anymore or something else equally depressing. Since Weekes likes to keep Solavellan Hell as ambiguous as possible that interpretation might indeed be a thing. BP

 

She doesn't have to change in a bad way! That isn't the end goal of my story, anyway. I suppose it depends on how you played your Lavellan. 

[FernRain]

Meta Varric + Cadash romance:

 

"Who is this.."

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The way she said "what were you talking about" after waltzing up was pretty on point for my headcannon. I recorded it:

 

Modifié par FernRain, 29 janvier 2016 - 06:53 .

[CapricornSun]

Art post.

 

The spirits told me that Fen'Harel had an eight pack. That Fen'Harel was shredded."

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Source: http://trashwarden.t...agon-i-randomly

 

 

Solas goes back in time and slaps himself.

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Source: http://neboou.tumblr...d-slaps-himself

 

 

 

After the defeat of Corypheus and Solas leaving, Kidquisitor finds a dragon egg in the depths of Skyhold...

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Source: http://coffeependulu...-ears-theyre-so

 

 

Solas pranks Sera and Dorian.

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Source: http://wardenpavus.t...ody-swap-movies

 

 

Solas taking a break from screwing things up.

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Source: http://hamstershepar...ak-from-fucking

 

 

 

Beautiful painting of Solas giving Lavellan his wolf jawbone necklace.

(Yes, she is a Lavellan even though her pointy ears aren't shown for some reason.)

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Source: http://anieactuality...eirin-to-create

 

 

Final Farewell. (Solavellan)

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Source: http://espamistwalke...ided-to-draw-my

 

 

Emoji meme: Lavellan and Solas. (Implied NSFW  )

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Source: http://amaryllislave...maryllis-9b-333

 

 

Solas and Lavellan sketch (finished version).

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Source: http://christina-emi...vellan-theneras

 

 

Looking Glass fanart: Pride and Lavellan cuddling.

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Source: http://tiny-mom-ruby...d-at-me-and-saw

 

[Kyartah]

Hmmm... Endings...

 

I really like DAI but if I take a look at the ending, I definitely prefer DAO.

There you really have several endings for your chars while in DAI it all ends "the same". You have slight changes (who will be devine justinia) but all in all, it's the sane routine.

Real life isn't leading us to a happy end neither do I expect from a game. It's of course nice to have a nice, fluffy, pink, shiny happy ending but I prefere those endings that are in a way split. On one hand you saved the world but the question is... at what price?

 

Well in my DAO canon playthrough Alistair became a drinker, because I didn't support him as king. I simply thought he did not have the quality it needs to lead a whole country at the point where the choice had to be made and chose "the hard way" (Alistair was my LI). So I put stability of the kingdom above my feelings and Alistairs childlike sulk with the sudden idea he want's to be king despite all he said before.

 

So in my eyes, that's one of those ends that keep you thinking after the game, that make you replay the game, in the attempt to find a better way.

Is it better to make Alistair king and then... BAM... you can't be the mother of his child only some kind of paramour? Hell I didn't expect this when I was on my second playthrough... HA! I was right dumping him in my first playthrough!

 

I really wish for the DAseries to have somewhat of an "open" ending (happy, tragic, heroic or one in the "50 shades of grey" in between). But an end that is not leaving room for a next game/chapter.

[midnight tea]

Hmmm... Endings...

 

I really like DAI but if I take a look at the ending, I definitely prefer DAO.

There you really have several endings for your chars while in DAI it all ends "the same". You have slight changes (who will be devine justinia) but all in all, it's the sane routine.

Real life isn't leading us to a happy end neither do I expect from a game. It's of course nice to have a nice, fluffy, pink, shiny happy ending but I prefere those endings that are in a way split. On one hand you saved the world but the question is... at what price?

 

Ah, but you see - the varying endings is one of few major reasons why HoF will *never* return to the franchise, either as PC or NPC.

 

And it seems that Bioware still has plans for our Inquisitors... and if they have, they literally can't create too many diverging endings - and that's aside from the fact that too diverging endings are pretty much a hindrance in a continuing series. Bioware has admitted more than once that DAO epilogue has created problems fir them when writing Inquisition.

 

This is exactly the reason why DAI (and especially Tersppasser) ends with Inquisitor at the very same spot, no matter of their choices and approval levels with companions... Question now is what plans they indeed have for the story and our current protagonist.

 

 

 

 

I really wish for the DAseries to have somewhat of an "open" ending (happy, tragic, heroic or one in the "50 shades of grey" in between). But an end that is not leaving room for a next game/chapter.

 

For that, I think we'd all have to wait for the definite end of Dragon Age, or its current overarching story...

[Ellawynn]

On the ending thing, gotta agree with Midnight up there. Branching endings are nice, but there's a reason why the Origins ending slides have been non-canonized at nearly every turn. It's just impossible to have so many permutations, especially since they'd all build on each other.

 

The end of the overarching plot, when it comes, will probably have a mess of different outcomes though.

 

And honestly, I don't think unhardened Alistair would make a great King either. (Hardened Alistair apparently does, if the ending slides are anything to go off of though.) I mean, he's honorable, and selfless, and compassionate - he's a genuinely good guy, and I think that's worth preserving. But he's too desperate to please people, too prone to acting on emotion rather than thinking things through, too inexperienced to rule alone but not really capable of trusting others to help him. For instance, I'm firmly in the camp that says Eamon was manipulating him into being a puppet to the throne, repaired amulet or no. And Alistair would've been one, because he's so desperate for affection, so trusting of his supposed friends, so unsure of himself to the point where he wouldn't question someone who he sees as a mentor and father figure. With all his good attributes, I can see an unhardened Alistair making a good King if he had a circle of advisers he can trust. But he doesn't. He's got Eamon, whose motives are questionable at best, and maybe the Warden, depending on who they are and where they end up.

 

That being said, I've never really understood why people seem to get mad at him for dumping the Warden upon becoming King, or why it's so insulting that he's willing to take them as a mistress. It's quite clearly not what he wants. But it's the best either him or the Warden can do without being revoltingly selfish.

 

EDIT: On a totally unrelated note GUYS HOLY SH!T

 

Sunless Sea is free to play for the weekend but only for the weekend. After that you gotta buy it.

 

If you don't know what Sunless Sea is, it's a gothic horror/Lovecraftian steampunk/text-heavy rogue-like set in the Fallen London universe, where you play the captain of a ship on an ocean filled with mind-breaking horrors. Your job is to make piles of money and not lose your mind. I've heard good things about it. Although I haven't confirmed if those good things are true. But that's about to change. Obviously.

 

Anyway, just a heads-up. Check it out if it sounds like your thing.

[TheyCallMeBunny]

I know I already linked this song before, but after Trespasser it seems even more relevant. The song really seems to reflect the struggles of a Lavellan who, at the end of Trespasser, still has very deep feelings for Solas but also wants to do the "right" thing (perhaps even choosing to stop him no matter what). I want to listen to the Lost Elf theme now, but I fear I will drown in feelings. 

 

 

 

Edit* Top! Hmmm, have this one of my Lavellan and Solas before he started breaking her heart... 

 

 

Sorry about the size!

[Feliishiiaa]

I kinda have a feeling I’m arriving late to a party as I finished my 1st run of DA:I in December. Could not play it earlier as my computer could not run it properly and I hate playing this type of games on consoles (plus we only have last gen and god the game is ugly on those).

So when I got money for a new computer, I of course had to play Inquisition.
And guess what ? 1st playthrough, Dalish Mage Inquisitor, romance with Solas. Ouch, right in the feels. Played Trespasser right after (I feel luck I didn’t have to wait for it) and cried my eyes out.

Since then it’s safe to say I have developed a ‘slight’ case of Solasbsession (yeah, I’m making up words).
(I’ve replayed DAO and DA2 in the meantime)

Right now I’m in my second playthrough, this time as human rogue and romancing Cullen, ‘coz for once I’d like to have a happy ending but I’ll have to make a third to re-romance the sexiest bald elf in the universe.

But honestly despite my broken heart, I really feel it’s the most interesting romance story wise and the fact that's it's with a smart, sexy elf doesn't hurt.

TL;DR
Heart broken and obsessed. Need a support group of sorts
 

[Elessara]

I kinda have a feeling I’m arriving late to a party as I finished my 1st run of DA:I in December. Could not play it earlier as my computer could not run it properly and I hate playing this type of games on consoles (plus we only have last gen and god the game is ugly on those).

So when I got money for a new computer, I of course had to play Inquisition.
And guess what ? 1st playthrough, Dalish Mage Inquisitor, romance with Solas. Ouch, right in the feels. Played Trespasser right after (I feel luck I didn’t have to wait for it) and cried my eyes out.

Since then it’s safe to say I have developed a ‘slight’ case of Solasbsession (yeah, I’m making up words).
(I’ve replayed DAO and DA2 in the meantime)

Right now I’m in my second playthrough, this time as human rogue and romancing Cullen, ‘coz for once I’d like to have a happy ending but I’ll have to make a third to re-romance the sexiest bald elf in the universe.

But honestly despite my broken heart, I really feel it’s the most interesting romance story wise and the fact that's it's with a smart, sexy elf doesn't hurt.

TL;DR
Heart broken and obsessed. Need a support group of sorts
 

 

 

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