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[Solas]

Heyho Solas thread, just peeking in

 

By curiosity, are you guys going to do something Solavellan for St Valentine or the coming 6K?

hello Cerulione that is a great idea

 

:: eyes thread users :: 

[Garnet]

I predict ummm... Lavellan is able to change the dread wolf's mind with the power of love, they are reunited and ascend to become king and queen of the uplifted elves. They have 2.5 kids, a fade green picket fence, a golden retriever. They live happily ever after

Until one day, when the Fire Nation attacked

 

 

2.5 kids? What is that even supposed to mean? Do I want to know? Cause half a kid sounds a bit creepy XD Or is it half elf/half wolf?

Anyway.. not entirely Solas related but I finished my fenrisxhawke drawing and am super happy so I need to share the joy somewhere XD Here it is if anyone wants to have a look xD http://almasy87.devi...f-you-587766475

 

I was going to ask about the .5 but then my brain decided it was a 4, 2, and not yet 1 year old  (like 4 months or something.) Yay, happy endings! And as much as I love Avatar, I don't think the Fire Nation is much of a threat to Thedas considering all they've been through. 

(I've been really busy lately so I've been quiet. :x I still love and follow you, blanketfort!)

[FernRain]

I went to my childhood vacationing spot on the weekend and thought of you all..
 

 

I'm home again, we drove almost 1000km (621 miles) in 30 hours, yet I endure..

 

And we went to a place I sometimes visited where the water goes back into a cave, and when I read this Māori lore my mind jumped to theory mode and reminded me of Titans :

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[CapricornSun]

Heyho Solas thread, just peeking in

 

By curiosity, are you guys going to do something Solavellan for St Valentine or the coming 6K?

 

Not sure if the thread is doing anything (*looks at everyone in the thread*) but personally, I might draw some Solavellan thing for Valentine's Day.

 

(That is, if I could get out of my current art slump...)

[Solas]

[off-topic feel free to ignore] been working on an MLavellan (well, he's actually a City Elf)-

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Can't decide if I like his face or not  (eyes are supposed to be hazel lul, didn't realize how crazy bright they'd be with mods haha)

[CapricornSun]

Art post.

 

"What Pride Had Wrought" by kallielef.

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Source: http://kallielefave....ation-dragonage

 

 

Solas with a little owl. (Drawn as an appreciation to one of the tumblr users named misskindowl)

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Source: http://destinyaposta...-fandom-pass-it

 

 

A speedpaint of smoker!Solas. (NSFW-ish for nudity.)

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Source: http://monstertree-a...ll-always-be-my

 

 

Father and Son.

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Source: http://niklisson.tum.../father-and-son

 

 

Beautiful Solavellan tarot card: The Sun

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Source: http://elyhumanoid.d...e-Sun-587721244

 

 

Lovely traditional inked artwork of a sad Trespasser Solas and Lavellan.

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Source: http://chococonut.tu...-sketching-with

 

 

WIP: There is no leaving Solavellan hell, Ever.

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Source: http://solavellangar...ellan-hell-ever

 

 

Fen'Harel looking forward to having real talk with real people.

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Source: http://trashwarden.t...you-wanted-more

 

 

Solas and male Trevelyan from the 'finding Skyhold' scene.

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Source: http://silencedmomen...st/138355769823

 

 

Height differences: Alistair x Mahariel, Anders x f!Hawke, Dorian x Trevelyan, Solas x Lavellan.

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Source: http://mureh.tumblr....st/138356913678

 

 

 

Gorgeous sketches of Bull as well as sketches of Adaar messing around with Blackwall and Solas.

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Source: http://suketchilt.tu...ulls-face-slate

 

[Cerulione]

hello Cerulione that is a great idea

 

:: eyes thread users :: 

 

I'm in if you guys are on. Seriously I'd love to pass more time in this thread anyway, been lurking for a while XD

I'm doing something Solavellan, intended for Valentine's day but not sure if there is anything organized or if there might be the famous 6K

 

PS: I can't stop reading your signature with badly exagerrated Parisian accent XD

 

Not sure if the thread is doing anything (*looks at everyone in the thread*) but personally, I might draw some Solavellan thing for Valentine's Day.

 

(That is, if I could get out of my current art slump...)

 

Aaawww hope that you'll get out of it soon! Love Tala the expressive cute elf

[almasy87]

Hahah poor egg got licked in the face

mmh.. I have a little silly question: is anyone a bit bothered by the different ways Elvhen is pronounced during the 3 games?
Like, they changed the pronunciation for DAI or something.. In DAO for instance there are some Elvhen songs, like Leliana's song, in which the pronunciation is different than later on.. for instance the song says "vhenan him dor'felas" but vhenan is pronounced like Veenan.. Or it says "Emma ir abElas" (accent on the E) but in DAI Solas always says "ir abelAs" (accent on the A).. and then we have Abelas, whose name has the accent on the first A..(though maybe I can understand it in this case cause it's a noun and not a verb, so ok.).

And then we have DA2 where Merril pronounces the Dread Wolf's name as something like.. fAn hArel  When Solas himself says fen'harEl, and since it's his name I suppose he knows best Plus there is member of Merril's clan who is named Fenarel, which sounds most similar to Solas' pronunciation.. but who in their right head would name their son almost like the Dread Wolf? eee, I hate that guy! He's just a name-thief wannabee! I am almost happy I slaughtered the clan

Anyway.. I suppose since Solas is the real ancient Elvhen, his pronunciation is the correct one, and the other ones are all wrong because they don't know..like Leliana (understandable since she's human).. but even the Dalish don't know how to pronounce Elvhen properly..? 

 So this is..what? Just one more thing the Dalish got wrong? (cit.).

Seems so.. Dunno why but it bothers me D:

[CapricornSun]

*snips*

And then we have DA2 where Merril pronounces the Dread Wolf's name as something like.. fAn hArel  When Solas himself says fen'harEl, and since it's his name I suppose he knows best Plus there is member of Merril's clan who is named Fenarel, which sounds most similar to Solas' pronunciation.. but who in their right head would name their son almost like the Dread Wolf? eee, I hate that guy! He's just a name-thief wannabee! I am almost happy I slaughtered the clan

*snips*

 

*Mahariel Greatly Disapproves* 

[Ginsky]

I've got a peculiar and possibly slightly irrelevant question: at the end of her encounter with solas in trespasser I'm sure lavellan still has her hand. Does the magic take it later or what? She has it cut off?

[Cerulione]

Hahah poor egg got licked in the face

mmh.. I have a little silly question: is anyone a bit bothered by the different ways Elvhen is pronounced during the 3 games?
Like, they changed the pronunciation for DAI or something.. In DAO for instance there are some Elvhen songs, like Leliana's song, in which the pronunciation is different than later on.. for instance the song says "vhenan him dor'felas" but vhenan is pronounced like Veenan.. Or it says "Emma ir abElas" (accent on the E) but in DAI Solas always says "ir abelAs" (accent on the A).. and then we have Abelas, whose name has the accent on the first A..(though maybe I can understand it in this case cause it's a noun and not a verb, so ok.).

And then we have DA2 where Merril pronounces the Dread Wolf's name as something like.. fAn hArel  When Solas himself says fen'harEl, and since it's his name I suppose he knows best Plus there is member of Merril's clan who is named Fenarel, which sounds most similar to Solas' pronunciation.. but who in their right head would name their son almost like the Dread Wolf? eee, I hate that guy! He's just a name-thief wannabee! I am almost happy I slaughtered the clan

Anyway.. I suppose since Solas is the real ancient Elvhen, his pronunciation is the correct one, and the other ones are all wrong because they don't know..like Leliana (understandable since she's human).. but even the Dalish don't know how to pronounce Elvhen properly..? 

 So this is..what? Just one more thing the Dalish got wrong? (cit.).

Seems so.. Dunno why but it bothers me D:

 

Hmmm not me. The thing with languages is, the more people speak it, the more dialects & variation there are. Like, even for the Dalish clans who lives apart they must've developped different dialects one from another. It's just... something that can be expected? Also, Olde Languages always have differences with Modern ones so well...

 

1. Solas speaks probably more Olde Elven version. Or at least highly influenced from it

2. Leliana does not speak Elvhen. More likely it's a song she just memorized the pronounciation

 

I expect it's like the Québecois in Canada speak different French to the French in France, and the Swiss and Belgians speak yet another variation. It's just not that weird to me. Anyway I re-heard the parts you said and it sounds quite subtle, the differences I mean.

[Kyartah]

Hmmm not me. The thing with languages is, the more people speak it, the more dialects & variation there are. Like, even for the Dalish clans who lives apart they must've developped different dialects one from another. It's just... something that can be expected? Also, Olde Languages always have differences with Modern ones so well...

 

1. Solas speaks probably more Olde Elven version. Or at least highly influenced from it

2. Leliana does not speak Elvhen. More likely it's a song she just memorized the pronounciation

 

I expect it's like the Québecois in Canada speak different French to the French in France, and the Swiss and Belgians speak yet another variation. It's just not that weird to me. Anyway I re-heard the parts you said and it sounds quite subtle, the differences I mean.

 

You exactly wrote what my answer would have been as well.

It doesn't even need different countries around the world to have different pronunciation. Here in Switzerland (fairly small country) there is a different dialect for nearly every canton and it's all called "Swiss German".

[Cerulione]

You exactly wrote what my answer would have been as well.

It doesn't even need different countries around the world to have different pronunciation. Here in Switzerland (fairly small country) there is a different dialect for nearly every canton and it's all called "Swiss German".

 

You guys has at least words for numbers more than sixty. Here we don't, we start doing the arithmetic after sixty

 

So all in all, I imagine that since Elvhen language is a fragmented languages where there is nearly no speaker able to speak it completely (except Solas but he does not count), it might have been mixed with other non-elvhen dialect. Like I expect city elves in Denerim speak differently the few elvhen words known than the city elves in Val Royaux. City elves knows even less words than Dalish I presume...

 

Guess that Solas and all ancient elves (or spirit etc like the one in Vir Dirthara/Trespassers) speak "purer" version of elvhen that's the ancient Elvhen.

[ladyiolanthe]

I've got a peculiar and possibly slightly irrelevant question: at the end of her encounter with solas in trespasser I'm sure lavellan still has her hand. Does the magic take it later or what? She has it cut off?

 

It's not really clear in that scene, you are right - but devs (Patrick Weekes on Twitter, I believe) have confirmed that Solas magically dissolves the Inquisitor's arm just before he walks off into the eluvian. All we see is that the whole lower arm is green magical energy at that point.  I suppose it dissipated after Solas left.

 

Anyway, I suppose it was kind of him to do that - it must have been a more pleasant way to experience amputation than using a bone saw and no anesthetics (which is probably what any of our Inquisition soldiers who needed to have amputations would have experienced).  I suppose he must have sealed up our blood vessels and everything while he was at it, since he wanted us to live.

 

Edited to add: Here is the Twitter confirmation from Weekes: 

 

http://pandaspwnz.tu...the-arm-for-you

 

https://twitter.com/...532675241738240

[lynroy]

Huh, never saw those links before. I only thought he removed the anchor and then the arm was removed before showing up in front of the council. 

http://olessan.tumbl...ication-on-what

[Vlk3]

It's not really clear in that scene, you are right - but devs (Patrick Weekes on Twitter, I believe) have confirmed that Solas magically dissolves the Inquisitor's arm just before he walks off into the eluvian. All we see is that the whole lower arm is green magical energy at that point.  I suppose it dissipated after Solas left.

 

Anyway, I suppose it was kind of him to do that - it must have been a more pleasant way to experience amputation than using a bone saw and no anesthetics (which is probably what any of our Inquisition soldiers who needed to have amputations would have experienced).  I suppose he must have sealed up our blood vessels and everything while he was at it, since he wanted us to live.

 

Edited to add: Here is the Twitter confirmation from Weekes: 

 

http://pandaspwnz.tu...the-arm-for-you

 

https://twitter.com/...532675241738240

 

 

Oh, I haven't seen this exchange before. I always assumed he took the anchor (and the anchor consumed half of her arm) and that Lavellan had the rest of her arm cut off after returning to Winter Palace.

Well, at least I can hope it didn't hurt that much if it was done magically.

I don't like the loss of the arm. I mean, no one would like that, but I can't deal with it.

He could have tried to help the Inquisitor sooner, not wait until there was too late to save her hand.

[Arshes Nei]

I've got a peculiar and possibly slightly irrelevant question: at the end of her encounter with solas in trespasser I'm sure lavellan still has her hand. Does the magic take it later or what? She has it cut off?

 

I believe a few posters here have screenshots of Trespasser, but it dissolves. You can see (especially in the 'removal' scene with Solas-grabs arm/kiss depending on relationship) that it appears to be disintegrating due to the magic.

[TheyCallMeBunny]

You exactly wrote what my answer would have been as well.

It doesn't even need different countries around the world to have different pronunciation. Here in Switzerland (fairly small country) there is a different dialect for nearly every canton and it's all called "Swiss German".

 

Ah Switzerland, sometimes known as Sweden (and vice versa). I always found it funny to be mistaken for a Swiss as our countries really are not similar at all in regards to culture and politics. I'm hoping to be able to go there someday, you seem to live in an amazingly beautiful country! 

 

As for languages and pronunciation, dialects really do have a big effect (and I'm guessing there were dialects within such a huge realm as Elvhenan). Perhaps the elves in Arlathan spoke a noticeably different Elvhen than the elves in the Arbor Wilds? I'm guessing it would depend on how much contact the elves had through the eluvians. 

[Kyartah]

Yes, the contact between the elves would be interesting to know. But as we know, the eluvians were destroyed or "closed" long time ago when the elves were at war. So since then it passed enough time where elves were stuck all over the world and stayd for themselves. This makes dialects very likely.

 

I think Switzerland as small country developed so many different dialects because the landscape here with the hills and mountains really promotes local differences for interaction/contact in the past was limited.

[ladyiolanthe]

*snip*

 

He could have tried to help the Inquisitor sooner, not wait until there was too late to save her hand.

 

I think it was probably already too late to save the Inquisitor's hand when they first step out of the Breach at the beginning of the game, sadly. There's an immense amount of magical energy concentrated in the anchor/mark - enough for a person (or a party) to step physically into the Fade. And during your first confrontation with Corypheus, after failing to remove it from your hand, he says "The anchor is permanent," which suggests that there is no way of removing it without removing your hand in the process.

 

Now into the realm of speculation: remember that Solas had you at his mercy while you were unconscious right at the very beginning of the game. I am pretty sure that trying to remove the mark from your hand would probably have been one of the first things he tried under the guise of 'helping you', since he needs the immense amount of power represented by it to tear down the Veil. Everyone expects the Inquisitor to die at this stage so if you died during Solas' attempt to reclaim that power for himself, no one would be any the wiser. Solas would feel no guilt at all, because to him you are not actually a person, at that point. Obviously he couldn't get rid of it though! Possibly because he doesn't have enough power to do that until he absorbs Mythal's power. So he had to nurse you back to health and keep you alive in the hope that he could still salvage something of his original plan, somehow. He's playing a long game.

 

Also, ha ha, the irony and foreshadowing: While crafting this reply I had to re-watch the battle for Haven.  Corypheus' words to the Inquisitor might as well be Solas' to Corypheus: "It is your fault, "Herald." You interrupted a ritual years in the planning, and instead of dying, you stole its purpose."

[Bayonet Hipshot]

*snip*

And then we have DA2 where Merril pronounces the Dread Wolf's name as something like.. fAn hArel  When Solas himself says fen'harEl, and since it's his name I suppose he knows best Plus there is member of Merril's clan who is named Fenarel, which sounds most similar to Solas' pronunciation.. but who in their right head would name their son almost like the Dread Wolf? eee, I hate that guy! He's just a name-thief wannabee! I am almost happy I slaughtered the clan

 

*snip*

 

 

Lol. All my Elven Wardens in DAO named Dog as Fen'Harel. It just seems fitting.

[CapricornSun]

Art post.

 

Solas. (I love the color palette! )

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Source: http://valveillen.tu...421260932/solas

 

 

Close up:

 

 

Wolf. Another lovely Solas artwork by umabbas.

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Source: http://umabbas.tumbl...again-i-need-to

 

 

A smiling, sparkling Solas.

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Source: http://mouwrost.tumb...stickernotebook

 

 

Creepy red (lyrium?) Solas.

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Source: http://luukum.tumblr...st/138404226233

 

 

Some Solas sketches.

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Source: http://jessthenoob.t...lf-who-broke-my

 

 

'Silly girls who run with wolves are bound to be swallowed whole.'

Colored animation version of that creepy six-eyed Lavellan sketch earlier. (NSFW-ish for boobies)

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Source: http://bloodwrit.tum...are-bound-to-be

 

 

Adaar with her arm draped around Solas. (Pretty artwork!)

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Source: http://strix567.tumb...st/138407646536

 

 

I'm not sure what's going on since the comic is in Korean but it looks interesting.

Starring Lavellan, Solas, Blackwall and Bull.

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Source: http://banmu.tumblr....214/블랙월-괴롭히는-만화

 

[Kadan]

I think it was probably already too late to save the Inquisitor's hand when they first step out of the Breach at the beginning of the game, sadly. There's an immense amount of magical energy concentrated in the anchor/mark - enough for a person (or a party) to step physically into the Fade. And during your first confrontation with Corypheus, after failing to remove it from your hand, he says "The anchor is permanent," which suggests that there is no way of removing it without removing your hand in the process.

 

Now into the realm of speculation: remember that Solas had you at his mercy while you were unconscious right at the very beginning of the game. I am pretty sure that trying to remove the mark from your hand would probably have been one of the first things he tried under the guise of 'helping you', since he needs the immense amount of power represented by it to tear down the Veil. Everyone expects the Inquisitor to die at this stage so if you died during Solas' attempt to reclaim that power for himself, no one would be any the wiser. Solas would feel no guilt at all, because to him you are not actually a person, at that point. Obviously he couldn't get rid of it though! Possibly because he doesn't have enough power to do that until he absorbs Mythal's power. So he had to nurse you back to health and keep you alive in the hope that he could still salvage something of his original plan, somehow. He's playing a long game.

 

Also, ha ha, the irony and foreshadowing: While crafting this reply I had to re-watch the battle for Haven.  Corypheus' words to the Inquisitor might as well be Solas' to Corypheus: "It is your fault, "Herald." You interrupted a ritual years in the planning, and instead of dying, you stole its purpose."

This is exactly how I imagine what happened when Solas first inspects the mark on their hand. He knows they aren't part of Corypheus plan, or at least I expect he knows they aren't part of the Venatori, but I wonder just what he did expect Corypheus to do when he opened the orb....Anyway I'm sure he did try to take back the Anchor, unless he knew that without the orb taking the Anchor is impossible. That is my other theory. He tries and realizes that without his Orb he can't remove the Anchor. What Corypheus tries to do in Haven is akin to Danarius piecing together the ritual that put the lyrium markings on Fenris. I don't believe they were supposed to be as painful as they end up being because Danarius lacks the complete spell so he's improvising on the unknown and so is Corypheus. Instead of removing the Anchor he simple changes it.

 

Solas on the other hand knows exactly how to manipulate the Anchor, and the orb. He can stop the magic of it even in his weakened state, although it is only temporarily. But without the Orb, he doesn't have the power to remove it completely. I think part of the end scene is him realizing that now he has no way of saving the Inquisitor from the Anchor. He expected to regain control of his orb, and his power. He knows they have limited time and he leaves to find a solution to both problems now. Having his power returned and removing the Anchor. I believe that the later was always part of his plan and Trespasser just confirms this for me.

 

To me it says a lot about Solas' true character when he does in fact remove the Anchor. Even if the Inquisitor is a complete and total ass bag he still saves them. It would have been so easy for him to let his enemy die.  How many would do the same?

[Ellawynn]

 Everyone expects the Inquisitor to die at this stage so if you died during Solas' attempt to reclaim that power for himself, no one would be any the wiser. Solas would feel no guilt at all, because to him you are not actually a person, at that point. 

 

Eh, I wouldn't say he'd feel no remorse. If his bleeding approval in the Hinterlands is any indication, he does seem to feel pretty guilty for the Breach and it's destruction. I imagine, if he killed the Inquisitor there, he probably would've felt the same.

 

Not that it would've really stopped him, mind.

[ladyiolanthe]

Eh, I wouldn't say he'd feel no remorse. If his bleeding approval in the Hinterlands is any indication, he does seem to feel pretty guilty for the Breach and it's destruction. I imagine, if he killed the Inquisitor there, he probably would've felt the same.

 

Not that it would've really stopped him, mind.

 

Fair point, Ellawynn. But yeah, I agree it wouldn't have stopped him.

 

BioWare often states that they like it when the fans are polarized by a character, because then they know they've succeeded in making that character memorable. If all the feels people have about Solas (both positive and negative) are any indication, I think they hit the ball out of the park with him. ;D