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[Qun00]

How do you guys go about choosing a name for an elven character?

Personally, I think the rules to how the names are created are so vague that I don't feel confident enough to come up with one and feel like it's legitimate.

Comes the end of the day, I prefer to pick one from Tolkien's elves.

[CapricornSun]

Art post.

 

Beautiful modern AU Solavellan fanart by nipuni!   (Look at the rain! And I love the color palette.)

Based on the Solavellan modern AU fic Questionable Artistry by spirrum. (I should read this.)

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Source: http://nipuni.tumblr...s-are-one-of-my

 

 

Last Looks. (Trespasser Solas and Lavellan)

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Source: http://theresa-draws...3028/last-looks

 

 

Solas and Lavellan with a giant Dread Wolf over them.

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Source: http://solavellangar...s-ship-makes-me

 

 

Solavellan sketch dump.

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Source: http://stolen-wings....-a-picture-with

 

[Ellawynn]

*Enjoying the Kid!Quisitor debate*

 

Another thing to add; like someone had mentioned earlier but didn't really go into depth with, is that its Thedas. Children would have a much harsher life as the poster said. So unless they lived in a large city/village with means, they would be comfortable or at least ready for danger. Their parents/siblings/guardians/whatever would have made sure their kid knew how to escape or hide themselves. Kid!Quisitor could theoretically be quite believable in a world where there is so much danger that kids don't actually get to be kids. Depends on the child I think and in what capacity they have shown that people are willing to flock to your personage. (People think your a god or sent from one, they might believe in their own fanatical way that whatever comes out of your mouth is the holy gospel)

 

See, I'm just not sure I believe that kids in Thedas have it harder then modern children. 

 

I mean, Thedas is already progressive in terms of gender equality and gay rights. They've abolished slavery as well, most of them anyway. With all these modern values, I find it hard to believe that they wouldn't have a similarly modern view on children and childhood, especially since all of the (Admittedly few) kids we've seen have been what we would expect of children. We don't run into a lot of, I don't know, fourteen-year-old farmers or merchants. And all children we've seen thus far have been pretty... well, childish. Even with the Hawkes, Carver didn't join the army until he was... what, sixteen? And he was just some solider, he definitely wasn't making any serious decisions, and I doubt anyone would've let him. 

 

 

(I know there's no proof of this and it's pure speculation, but that's just a theory I'll hold onto until proven otherwise.)

 

No, I actually think it's very possible that the ancient Tevinters, once they figured out elf-blooded people had magic/were more gifted with magic, consciously interbred with them and then raised the children as "pure" human. It'd run with the general theme of Tevinter cribbing their power and knowledge from ancient Elvhenan, and we know from Dorian that Tevinter nobility practices some sort of... breeding program, to turn out the best and brightest mages. It'd make sense if the "gene" they're breeding for is actually elf-blood, while trying to keep as many actual elves out of the gene pool as possible. 

 

It could also explain why so many humans from all areas become mages. Humanity in Thedas began with the early Tevinter tribes. If the majority influx of elven blood was brought in back when humans were just a few clans to the north, then today that "mage" gene exists in all human Thedosian populations because the human Thedosian population expanded from those few elf-blooded tribes. 

 

Hmm. So if that's true, that means the "native" human population (Which lies across the sea north of Tevinter, and is presumably still existent and active.) don't possess magic at all. I wonder how they'd interact if Thedosian humans ever reconnected with them...

[thaali]

How do you guys go about choosing a name for an elven character?

Personally, I think the rules to how the names are created are so vague that I don't feel confident enough to come up with one and feel like it's legitimate.

Comes the end of the day, I prefer to pick one from Tolkien's elves.

 

That's what I did with Thaali.  I built a name that fit her using Tolkien's language since it is so developed and is pretty much universal with elves.  I'd imagine they even drew some form of inspiration from his dialect, hard not to.

[thaali]

No, I actually think it's very possible that the ancient Tevinters, once they figured out elf-blooded people had magic/were more gifted with magic, consciously interbred with them and then raised the children as "pure" human. It'd run with the general theme of Tevinter cribbing their power and knowledge from ancient Elvhenan, and we know from Dorian that Tevinter nobility practices some sort of... breeding program, to turn out the best and brightest mages. It'd make sense if the "gene" they're breeding for is actually elf-blood, while trying to keep as many actual elves out of the gene pool as possible. 

 

It could also explain why so many humans from all areas become mages. Humanity in Thedas began with the early Tevinter tribes. If the majority influx of elven blood was brought in back when humans were just a few clans to the north, then today that "mage" gene exists in all human Thedosian populations because the human Thedosian population expanded from those few elf-blooded tribes. 

 

Hmm. So if that's true, that means the "native" human population (Which lies across the sea north of Tevinter, and is presumably still existent and active.) don't possess magic at all. I wonder how they'd interact if Thedosian humans ever reconnected with them...

 

Ok that could be an awesome fan fiction that hasn't been touched on before.  I don't know how you'd make it believable that Inky was someone from across the sea unless you had them not be Inky and arrive sometime after Trespasser.  Ugh I don't know how you'd do it but it sounds like it has tons of potential if someone had the ability/interest.

[CapricornSun]

How do you guys go about choosing a name for an elven character?

Personally, I think the rules to how the names are created are so vague that I don't feel confident enough to come up with one and feel like it's legitimate.

Comes the end of the day, I prefer to pick one from Tolkien's elves.

 

I usually use online elf name generators, usually the Tolkien-related ones. Or sometimes, if I'm picking names for Dragon Age elves, I try looking at Celtic, Welsh, or some other European names. I could use some of the elvhen given by Bioware but it's very limited.

 

Personally for my Lavellan, Tala, I named her after one of the local deities from my country.  (Because why the hell not?)

[midnight tea]

It could also explain why so many humans from all areas become mages. Humanity in Thedas began with the early Tevinter tribes. If the majority influx of elven blood was brought in back when humans were just a few clans to the north, then today that "mage" gene exists in all human Thedosian populations because the human Thedosian population expanded from those few elf-blooded tribes. 

 

Hmm. So if that's true, that means the "native" human population (Which lies across the sea north of Tevinter, and is presumably still existent and active.) don't possess magic at all. I wonder how they'd interact if Thedosian humans ever reconnected with them...

 

Well, there's one race we know of that doesn't possess magic - the dwarves. What if humans are basically elf-blooded dwarves?

[Siha]

The Inquisitor is the leader - the one making the big choices.  [...] These actions never would've been taken by a child Herald since Cass (or Hawke) would've just taken charge instead.
 

I haven't read these kidquisitor thingies but has the decision making part been explored at all? I do not see why you can't have an inquisitor who's nothing but a symbol. Emperors usually made decisions but I doubt that 2-year-old Puyi did. (Or various kings, presidents, or prime ministers when it comes to that...) (Also, maybe history even knows of children who actually did make decisions because some law put them in charge...) Titles and positions can just be for show. Cass or Hawke could still be in charge behind the scenes while showing the world a child inquisitor. Because the inquisition is not established and depends on public support, which is based on the popularity of its leader. Assuming that the kid was the Herold, fought monsters and closed the rifts, why not name it inquisitor and let the supervisors decide in the background?

[NightSymphony]

How do you guys go about choosing a name for an elven character?

Personally, I think the rules to how the names are created are so vague that I don't feel confident enough to come up with one and feel like it's legitimate.

Comes the end of the day, I prefer to pick one from Tolkien's elves.

I used the Dragon Age Wiki and looked up the elven language.  Atisha means peace..I thought it suited her.

[midnight tea]

How do you guys go about choosing a name for an elven character?

Personally, I think the rules to how the names are created are so vague that I don't feel confident enough to come up with one and feel like it's legitimate.

Comes the end of the day, I prefer to pick one from Tolkien's elves.

 

I simply picked a name from mythology (Hindu in this case) that I really like - Asura (Suri, in short) - and it turned out to be relatively compatible

 

Dunno what it could really mean even if I tried to invent something, but I did note an abundance of 'as' in many elvhen words on wiki (asha, revas, serannas... Abelas, Solas, duh) as well as 'ura' (Evanura, which might be a singular form of Evanuris), so I suppose it's possible it may actually - yet coincidentally - mean something ;D

[Kyartah]

 

Well, there's one race we know of that doesn't possess magic - the dwarves. What if humans are basically elf-blooded dwarves?

 

On 22nd January I adressed that thesis while doing a brainstorm on the discussion if humans and elves co-existed or if elves/humans lived before the others.

(I strongly doubt anyone ever read that post... )

 

Here the post (again). Just for brainstorming...

 

Ok, let's think outside "the box" for a moment in regards of elven history...

 

--- [ IRONY ON ]---

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The Elfs practised blood-magic and needed (beside their normal elven-slave-servants) a source for blood. 

(Solas once sais, blood-magic is just an other type of magic, not necessarily bad)

Being immortal they had all time they needed, to breed Dwarfs out of the Titans. But as the Elvfs realised, that Dwarfs are non-magical creatures and their blood was only of minor quality for their rituals they started to breed in elven blood from their lowest servants. The result was split. 

 

On one hand there came out the Qunari! Those breeds between Dwarfs and Elfs developed more back towards the titans, became tall, strong and didn't think high of magic. This breed was locked away as it wasn't usefull for blood-magic and due to their strength more labour-intensive than the second type of breed...

 

The second outcome from the breed between Dwarfs and Elfs were the Humans! There existed quite a reasonable amount of magic-capable individuals and it seemed the Humans had quite some talent to learn magic and keep themselfs alive in herds. With a reproduction rate from more or less than 25-30 years they kept their breed going just in the right amount for the elven rituals.

So the Elfs abandoned the humans and let them feed, breed and clean themselves and just went there to pick the magicians for their blood-rituals. 

(Humans developed culture in that time... that's where the Pyramids come from. Oh and well, because the magicians were picked out, most of the existing humans nowadays still are not able to do magic.)

 

As humans were so easy to breed at such a high rate whith a reasonable amount of magic-able individuals they were kept also for producing magical artefacts. The iron-particle were extracted from the blood and some very very very powerfull magical-devices like the Orbs where formed out of those human-blood-iron-particles. 

 

So when the Elfs started to fight each other in their wars, the abandoned human-herds grew out of control and became more numerous. And when Solas finally seperated the fade from the "world" and the Elfs lost their Power, the Humans took over and enslaved their former oppressors! 

(That's where the hate against Elfs comes from... That's deep inside the human DNA)

 

Solas in deed is "the Maker" of the "New World Order" and was worshiped by the humans for it. But as time passed, that knowledge got lost and Solas is not longer known to be "the Maker". Solas himself couldn't do anything as he was so exhausted after the seperation, that he fell asleep for centuries! And while he was sleeping, the world "as we know it" formed... 

 

So when Solas woke up, he saw that everything went wrong and decided to undo his separetion from the fade and the world.

Knowing that humans will once again become a blood-source for the elven blood-magic -once the Elfs have their powers back- he wishes the inquisitor all the best for the time that remains... 

 

 

--- [ IRONY OFF ]---

 

I think I better go to bed now... My brain is producing weird ideas... 

[Qun00]

I used the Dragon Age Wiki and looked up the elven language. Atisha means peace..I thought it suited her.

I've considered doing that, but it doesn't seem like naming their children after common words is something that is done all that often.

That is true whether we consider ancient or modern ones. There are no examples among the Dalish.

And then we have Abelas, who only received that name after certain events took place.

I usually use online elf name generators, usually the Tolkien-related ones. Or sometimes, if I'm picking names for Dragon Age elves, I try looking at Celtic, Welsh, or some other European names. I could use some of the elvhen given by Bioware but it's very limited.
 
Personally for my Lavellan, Tala, I named her after one of the local deities from my country.  (Because why the hell not?)

Huh... I forgot that we could do that. I simply named my Dalish Warden "Feanor", from the Silmarillion.

[FernRain]

Well, there's one race we know of that doesn't possess magic - the dwarves. What if humans are basically elf-blooded dwarves?

 

What about templar magic! That still confuses me.

[Qun00]

Solas refers to the dwarves as "a severed limb". Maybe even they were mages once.

[midnight tea]

Solas refers to the dwarves as "a severed limb". Maybe even they were mages once.

 

Well, Valta can certainly use some form of magic after she re-connects with the Titan. She says that she's "pure" (Something Sha-Bryols certainly tried to achieve, but apparently failed, since the Titan didn't really seem to care about them, nor any of them managed to calm it down, as it did after Valta was struck), though what that means is anyone's guess.

 

...Though I have to admit that it's been a while since I've suspected that some form of "impurity" may play a role in here somewhere. Is it the Taint? Different blood perhaps? Some other thing?

[Illyria]

I can't remember who here told me to watch Black Lagoon in English but thank you.  I do not regret switching to the dub.

[TheyCallMeBunny]

How do you guys go about choosing a name for an elven character?

Personally, I think the rules to how the names are created are so vague that I don't feel confident enough to come up with one and feel like it's legitimate.

Comes the end of the day, I prefer to pick one from Tolkien's elves.

 

I've more or less given up on giving them names that feel completely authentic to the setting. My canon Surana Warden (since I knew nothing of the setting) is named Alexis, a name I picked simply because I liked it. Since then I've tried to create some kind of cohesion, so I decided that Fereldan characters would have typical traditional English names (Maryan, Evelyn, Celia) while my Elven names are Celtic (Taryn, Keena, Riona), and my Dwarven names are old Germanic/Scandinavian (Freia, Elsa). I admit the Qunari names have me quite stumped, so I usually pick a name with a meaning I like (Asala, Meraad).

 

I do remember considering taking one of Tolkien's names for my elf, but ultimately decided it didn't feel right for me. Naming my characters is often one of the hardest things because once you have the name you're stuck with it. When playing Mass Effect for the first time I remember being so eager, I just didn't want to spend the usual amount of time digging on the web for a good name. So I took one of my history books and flipped it open and picked a name at random - and that is how my poor Lavinia Shepard was born. I've since headcanoned that she disliked her name and usually used her more generic middle name Jane instead. 

[Joe25]

Yes, basically Varian (the Kidquisitor a.k.a The Lonely Dragon) is part of the Elf Crew and Valen Lavellan (a.k.a. Warrior Princess) adopted him as her own and she's in a romance with Solas, hence why he calls Solas "Egg dad".

 

And yeah it does get a bit confusing.  Varian in the Elf Crew page is said to be 18 but later on he ended up being younger for the Kidquisitor comics.

 

EDIT: Top of the page again.

 

Fen'Harel at the club like...

 

 

 

 

Source: http://kiwi-xeet.tum...trash-sorry-not

[Joe25]

The arm is long gone.  You can see it melting when he removes the anchor.
 

Who said there needed to be flesh.

[Qun00]

I can't remember who here told me to watch Black Lagoon in English but thank you.  I do not regret switching to the dub.

All that Engrish in the original dub could kill you from ear bleeding.

[Illyria]

Who said there needed to be flesh.

 

I think that melted too.  The only thing Solas took was the anchor.  The arm was still attached to the Inquisitor when it got destroyed.

 

All that Engrish in the original dub could kill you from ear bleeding.

 

I saw quite a bit of it in Japanese years ago, long before the dub and enjoyed it.  I don't really remember the Engrish but it was years ago, and I only saw the first two episodes (which I enjoyed) and the Hansel and Gretel episodes (which were too disturbing to really focus on any Engrish they may or may have had...  I never did trust the choices of the guy who picked those episodes again)  I've finally got around to watching the whole show and I'm loving it in English (which is highly unusal for me).

[almasy87]

I usually use online elf name generators, usually the Tolkien-related ones. Or sometimes, if I'm picking names for Dragon Age elves, I try looking at Celtic, Welsh, or some other European names. I could use some of the elvhen given by Bioware but it's very limited.

Me too My Lavellan has been named Silme..
 

silmë is a noun meaning "starlight" in Quenya.^[1]

Silmë is also the name in Quenya of the twenty-ninth letter of the Tengwar alphabet.^[1] In all modes this letter represents S.^[2] The Westron name for this letter is Só.^[3]

Although it is a bit funny cause it reminds me of "Slime" as well XD

[midnight tea]

 

Me too My Lavellan has been named Silme..
 

silmë is a noun meaning "starlight" in Quenya.^[1]

Silmë is also the name in Quenya of the twenty-ninth letter of the Tengwar alphabet.^[1] In all modes this letter represents S.^[2] The Westron name for this letter is Só.^[3]

Although it is a bit funny cause it reminds me of "Slime" as well XD

 

 

I... am a little tired, so I did indeed read it as "Slime" at first 

[NightSymphony]

I... am a little tired, so I did indeed read it as "Slime" at first 

I did too.

[ladyiolanthe]

I usually use online elf name generators, usually the Tolkien-related ones. Or sometimes, if I'm picking names for Dragon Age elves, I try looking at Celtic, Welsh, or some other European names. I could use some of the elvhen given by Bioware but it's very limited.

 

Personally for my Lavellan, Tala, I named her after one of the local deities from my country.  (Because why the hell not?)

 

Okay, totally off-topic story time now. For a tabletop Pathfinder game that I play in, my GM was trying to come up with names for a number of Shadar-kai NPCs. So one evening, a bunch of us were using an online dark elf name generator (this one, as it happens) to come up with names for them. I kid you not: one randomly generated name that I got was "Dude Chillmage." We all went hysterical and still joke about "Dude Chillmage" when we're not in character... a year and a half on.  ^-^

 

For the record, he is not in the game but obviously if he was, he'd be a pothead sorceror.

 

Okay, back to something a little more topical: I also read Slime at first.