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Sorry for interrupting your deep thoughts guys.. :P

I just wanted to say that I was rewatching 007 SKYFALL, and listening to Adele's intro, I felt like it was totally my Lavellan (I'm just saying mine cause I know she would have assisted Solas if he had given her the chance :P) that could be singing to him..
"Let the Sky fall
when it crumbles
we will stand tall
and face it all.. together

:mellow:  :mellow:  :mellow: 

Ok, I can go back to my dark cave now  :mellow:  :mellow:


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I still really struggle with this. On one hand, if Solas is being manipulated and used/forced into what he is doing, that probably would make him "less evil" in the eyes of many. But that just feels cheap when he's been worked up to be what, so far, looks like an incredible anti-hero. I like the idea that he is fully responsible for his choices and accepts the consequences. Not someone's puppet, or a tragic victim of someone else's manipulations. Just a person that accepts who he is and won't hide from the reality of his faults, flaws, and decisions. That's what makes me such a fan of his. I respect that in an individual like nothing else.

 

That's also what makes him so different from Blackwall, by the way -- Solas accepts and admits to the terrible things he did or will do. Blackwall tried to pretend himself away from it, at least until Trespasser. He can be redeemed, sure, and I liked him fine after that, but before he was just a phony who refused to own what he'd done. Lame. (Not the character or story, just the person Blackwall was living as.)

 

But... the idea that Solas gave himself totally to the cause with the belief he was doing what was necessary and then it turns out he is betrayed, geased into something he would never have done? That would be an incredible moment to see. Done well, it would be heartbreaking and tragic and perfect. Done as a matter of course, here's Solas' "get out of evil free" card, I'd be very disappointed.

 

Hmm... an interesting twist, maybe, would be to have Solas know he's being controlled, and him trying to formulate a plan on how to break out of that control. It could also explain why he's so insistent on pushing Lavellan away - he doesn't want her being controlled too, and without her, he's lost the one person who could stop him and free him. 

 

...But personally, I don't even really like that as much as him being in complete control of himself, and just deciding this is the best course of action. Yes, it means Solas is capable of doing terrible things, and it means he willingly decides to do those terrible things, but I think his character really isn't as impactful if he hasn't got complete agency over himself.


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But... the idea that Solas gave himself totally to the cause with the belief he was doing what was necessary and then it turns out he is betrayed, geased into something he would never have done? That would be an incredible moment to see. Done well, it would be heartbreaking and tragic and perfect. Done as a matter of course, here's Solas' "get out of evil free" card, I'd be very disappointed.

 

I find it very unlikely, for variety of reasons I or others have mentioned and one other thing: Solas is ALREADY someone who's been betrayed to the point of breaking. He doesn't really trust anyone; not even his well-intentioned lover, or friend. He killed Felassan for insubordination. He continually tells Inquisitor NOT to trust his friends and warning them of ally's betrayal. He directly tells Lavellan he has difficulty trusting people and she throws his lack of trust in her into his face when they meet in Trespasser.

 

For Mythal, or anyone else, to betray or use him now in malicious way, would not only undermine Solas agency - it would also undermine one of the biggest shortcomings Inquisition has spent a lot of time establishing he has and will ultimately most likely try and learn to overcome: his trust issues.

 

And after all this, after making all the hints that he's afraid of being betrayed and hurt again to a point he doesn't trust anyone, and that restoring his trust and faith in people is likely the way for his redemption... he's just going to be duped by Mythal?

 

Yeah, no. No matter what their past or current relationship is, no matter of Mythal's schemes, I just find it implausible.


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But... the idea that Solas gave himself totally to the cause with the belief he was doing what was necessary and then it turns out he is betrayed, geased into something he would never have done? That would be an incredible moment to see. Done well, it would be heartbreaking and tragic and perfect. Done as a matter of course, here's Solas' "get out of evil free" card, I'd be very disappointed.

 

Well, considering how Patrick likes to yank on people's heartstrings for funsies, I'm pretty sure whatever ending we get with him, kill or redeem, anyone who has any heart at all, is going to be curled up in a half-catatonic ball of horror and sadness that slowly gets worse the more you think about it.


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Sorry for interrupting your deep thoughts guys.. :P

I just wanted to say that I was rewatching 007 SKYFALL, and listening to Adele's intro, I felt like it was totally my Lavellan (I'm just saying mine cause I know she would have assisted Solas if he had given her the chance :P) that could be singing to him..
"Let the Sky fall
when it crumbles
we will stand tall
and face it all.. together

:mellow:  :mellow:  :mellow: 

Ok, I can go back to my dark cave now  :mellow:  :mellow:

 

I've always thought that Skyfall fits both Inquisition's plot and Solas's character arc perfectly.

 

Also the arc of the Dwarf Wardens from Origins. Aside the obvious way you can fit it to the Fifth Blight, "A thousand miles and poles apart" can be seen as the cultural divide between rich and poor in Orzammar, "Where worlds collide and days are dark" refers to the city and "You can take my name, but you'll never take my heart" refers to how they won't let being an exile or persona non grata stop them from saving their people from themselves.

 

I've put far too much thought into this... :ph34r:


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Well, considering how Patrick likes to yank on people's heartstrings for funsies, I'm pretty sure whatever ending we get with him, kill or redeem, anyone who has any heart at all, is going to be curled up in a half-catatonic ball of horror and sadness that slowly gets worse the more you think about it.

 

Except for the people who have a hate hard-on and will gloat that they got to murder the murdering murderer. ;)

 

Then their days will be filled with smug superiority as they harsh on those that cared about the character, and they can continue on into their peaceful little world of hate and questionable self-worth.

 

Nah, I'm sure whatever end we get it will be well done. As long as it has impact, and we all feel we got a good ending out of it.


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But to get at the point you made here - while Flemythal may have been testing Morrigan, I don't think she at all expected Morrigan to turn on her so completely. She was genuinely wounded. Even that line she gives as she departs - "You were never in danger from me." And said with such solemn regret, too. Like she's saddened that it even needed to be pointed out. That Morrigan didn't know. That's not a reaction I'd expect from someone who know they did wrong and saw retaliation coming. It's the reaction I'd expect of someone who thought they were doing a good job and were honestly astounded to be told otherwise. 

 

Uh, wall of text again >_<'' Apologies - I'll spoiler it for length:

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Yet it was Morrigan herself that brings up the fact that Flemeth was testing her, even though we aren't yet certain in what way.

 

I suspect it was was a secret test of character to see what kind of mother Morrigan was and whether she'd compatible to become the next host of Mythal. Since Mythal took on the persona of the mother goddess to the Elven pantheon, this is obviously something that means a lot to her and would be a requirement when finding someone she'd gel with in terms of personality and beliefs.

 

So when Morrigan admitted that Kieran was not a pawn anymore but her son, and refused to give him up even if it meant sacrificing herself to her mother's bidding, that was what precisely what Flemeth wanted to hear, as that demonstrated her fierce sense of motherhood.

 

This is not to say that Morrigan isn't just as worthy of being the host for Mythal should Kieran not exist, merely that his existence allowed Flemeth to have another way to check if Morrigan was the right person for the job. Morrigan tells us that getting pregnant was her mother's plan for her in Origins, so it does seem like Flemeth wanted Morrigan to have a child.



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EDIT EDIT: DA2 Line up by Matt Rhodes

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So Elves are shorter than Humans. How is it that Elves look spot on in the drawings but look weird / underfed in the game ?
 


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So Elves are shorter than Humans. How is it that Elves look spot on in the drawings but look weird / underfed in the game ?
 

 

 

Not to mention concept Bethany seemed to have Sera's hair...mostly a coincidence, I think. 


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Not to mention concept Bethany seemed to have Sera's hair...mostly a coincidence, I think. 

 

That's why this was weirding me out at first.


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This 'how the same emoji appears differently on various devices' picture made me think of a really enthusiastic Solas. :lol:

 

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I don't have a problem, guys. Really.

 

 

Also, I had the best experience at an employment agency today. Got into a discussion about DAI with the recruiter (he's playing now and we had a squee over Dorian. And I naturally didn't spoil anything. I do want these people to find me a job. :P ).


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Art post.

 

Sad Solavellan tarot card. :(

 

Solas and Lavellan walking together.

 

Post Trespasser Solas and Lavellan.

 

Solas and Lavellan.

 

Solas and Lavellan riding harts.

 

Fen'Harel.

 

A very ginger young Solas.

 

Solas setting his coattails on fire with an amused Vivienne in the background. :P

 

All-mage team.


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Nothing to see here, just random babbling. Move along now.

 

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That art of them riding harts is super cute. :)


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Some before dinner thoughts...
 
So we've established Solas' parallels to Anders are pretty strong. The more I think about it though, the more I believe that Solas is going to turn out to be in the end, not "Anders up to 11", but more like both Anders and Fenris up to 11. Though that only works if its true that he really was Mythal's servant/slave, was her wolf, the powerful creature she kept on a leash to threaten the other magistersgods with, like Fenris was Danarius' "little wolf", and the parallel is that like Fenris, Solas' chains aren't completely broken, though how these chains would/could manifest, emotionally or physically, is yet to be shown.

WOAH WAHOOOO! That would be .. OH MY GOD.. never thought about this possibility. But it seems rather unlikely. Our dear Harel must have had a similar relationship to Mythal like Loki did with Frigga.
 

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How did you concluded this?

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A nice Fanart I found ;D OH YEAH! he's just so ... ... Our little Medusa  :wub:

 

 

young_angry_solas_by_purple_meow-d9n77vc


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On a somewhat related note: I found out today that David Gaider's found work with a studio called Beamdog, along with Brent Knowles (The designer who oversaw most of Origin's development.) and some other ex-BioWare talent. Beamdog, if you didn't know, was the studio behind the updated releases of Baulder's Gate, and currently they're working on an expansion for BG called Siege of Dragonspear.

 

So it seems like the studio's an attempt at recreating "Old BioWare." Interesting. Given current BioWare's somewhat tarnished reputation, i wonder how they'll be received...


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A nice Fanart I found ;D OH YEAH! he's just so ... ... Our little Medusa  :wub:

 

 

young_angry_solas_by_purple_meow-d9n77vc

 

Not only ain't that nothing like Solas, it's also.... why a vampire, what the heck? A vampire with a pointed tongue even.

 

So, basically, they give us a character we fall in love with and we express it by depicting him as something completely different from the person we were introduced to? Figures.


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Not only ain't that nothing like Solas, it's also.... why a vampire, what the heck? A vampire with a pointed tongue even.

 

So, basically, they give us a character we fall in love with and we express it by depicting him as something completely different from the person we were introduced to? Figures.

 

It'll always astound me how varied and oftentimes diverging the perception of a given character or story is. Sometimes I'm just looking at things (not necessarily from DA fandom) and I'm like "... Have we actually watched/read the same story??? :mellow: "


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A lot of these come with either tags or text explaining the oddities. Sometimes it's a drawing for a fanfiction, for an AU, or just a random idea popped  up in the head. Most of the 'misplaced' and 'weird' depictions of Solas I've seen were simply fanfic art and prompts.

 

I, for once, draw Solas paired with human pretty often.

 


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Speaking of art...

 

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http://elaninae.devi...oodle-590032104

 

 

Solas resting under a tree

http://tommieglenn.d...Solas-589916950

 

Beware the forms of Fen-Harel

http://tracikush.dev...Harel-590010666


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A lot of these come with either tags or text explaining the oddities. Sometimes it's a drawing for a fanfiction, for an AU, or just a random idea popped  up in the head. Most of the 'misplaced' and 'weird' depictions of Solas I've seen were simply fanfic art and prompts.

 

I, for once, draw Solas paired with human pretty often.

 

 

This is so ethereal and lovely. All of the details and the way you play with light. :wub:


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Mini art post.

 

Gorgeous sketch of Solas and Lavellan resting by a Fen'Harel statue.

 

Adorable artwork of chibi Iron Bull x F!Trevelyan picking apples and Solas x Lavellan having a picnic.  ^_^

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Modern AU rock band Solas, Iron Bull, Dorian, and Cullen. :D

 

 

EDIT: Top again.

 

Source: http://mezilandre.tu...st/139073590795

 

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That is just adorable...

Eh, I'm working on a little chibi Valentine drawing with all my DA couples :P Hopefully I finish it in time (very lazy)!


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Not only ain't that nothing like Solas, it's also.... why a vampire, what the heck? A vampire with a pointed tongue even.

 

So, basically, they give us a character we fall in love with and we express it by depicting him as something completely different from the person we were introduced to? Figures.

Chilllll~ Well it's art and a fanart, I liked it, so I shared it.

Besides I liked the joke implied and how his hair is portraited like the snakes of the Meduse. 

Well he looks indeed like Solas, just not EGG Solas but HAIR Solas so xD TIHI <3 

If the mod manager would be advanced enough for us to add stuff you would most definitely some bushy manes on that Egg-head of his.

HEH HEH HEH