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Modern AU Solas in spandex. (NSFW-ish for bulge. :P )

 

 

Uh yeah this... let's have more of this.   :wub:


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I thought the background might be a photo manipulation, yeah - but Solas looks very Solas-y and that's all you.  :)

 

DAI (and Solas' plotline and romance, specifically) has come very near to inspiring me to draw again. I used to draw my OCs a lot, but I haven't done much in nearly 20 years. I did doodle a decent Solas at work before Christmas, and doodling's probably what I need to do to reboot my drawing skills, but it's a little daunting to see how badly my skills have eroded since I was in my 20s. :/  I'll build up the courage eventually.


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*cheers ladyiolanthe on*

 

Solas and DA:I had that effect on me, too. And my brother giving me a drawing tablet for Christmas (and demanding Dark Souls and Bloodborne fanart in exchange. Huh). I haven't drawn new fanart for some 3-4 years, and right now I'm relearning everything from the ground up. And debating whether I should even upload this on my long unused deviantart account.

 

Drawing Solas (or anything not anime, actually) is a challenge, as I'm more used to the bishounen/bishoujo art style than realistic portraits. But that elf needed to be drawn...  :wub:


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having many kids was considered more desirable because it meant not only more free labor during your working years, but more likeliness that you'd have someone to take care of you in your old age.

 

 

First time i encountered Flemeth i assumed that she conceived Morrigan and the others  daughters for this same reason,so that they could have cooked,cleaned and roll up the blankets for her,well that didn't work after the whole Mythal subplot.... :P

 

 

Regardless of social constructs and environmental circumstances, I do agree though that the main reason people (hell, all living creatures) reproduce is to pass on their genes. Self-preservation is arguably the most basic and fundamental desire of all life (from the tiniest bacteria to the great blue whale), yet none of us live forever, so the next-best thing is to reproduce so our genetics can live on through our offspring.

 

 

Self preservation isn't to me the greatest desire, that is greed lol simply because i'm not a bacteria or a whale and i have no interest in the survival of my genetics,i'm slightly more complex than them

I used the sacrifice ending in DAO in the hope to become a god and gain phenomenal cosmic powers but that didn't work :unsure:

My warden was more greed than Corypheus

 

 

Er... Hello! *waves*

 

Long-time lurker, finally worked up the courage to post something on this amazing thread. :)

 

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... Butler!Solas AU, anyone?

 

Sorry for the hugeness!  :o

 

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Well this remind me more of a Lex Luthor with pointy ears rather than Solas...



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Mini art post.

 

"Let us stay here for a little longer." Pretty Solavellan art.  :wub:

 

Solavellan Patreon sketch. <3

 

Star Wars AU: KyloRen!Solas by kallielef:o


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Well this remind me more of a Lex Luthor with pointy ears rather than Solas...

 

He does, perhaps. :D  Or a poncy pointy-eared Mr. Clean.

 

(Just wait until I make him cosplay One Punch Man's Saitama...) ^o^v


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True, I mean if we take the amount of water in Lake Superior (about 3 quadrillion gallons) and divide that by how much blood is in an average human body (about 1.5 gallons), that would be like 2 quadrillion elves worth of blood.

 

Yeah, that sounds a lot like hyperbole to me.

 

 

Where did I even say anything like that?

 

The only thing I've done is say this: "we don't really know how ancient elvhen families and relations were, but it could be that the role of "father" or "mother" wasn't tied to biological parents; in fact it's curious whether a lot of ancient elvhen population HAD any biological parents, given that they could just manifest from the Fade."

 

I've made no claims you ascribe to me.

 

You flat-out said you doubt ancient elves even reproduce biologically "given that they could just manifest from the Fade" (which you said with complete certainty, like it's a self-evident fact). What other conclusion was I supposed to draw?

 

Self preservation isn't to me the greatest desire, that is greed lol simply because i'm not a bacteria or a whale and i have no interest in the survival of my genetics,i'm slightly more complex than them

 

I'm not even going to dignify that with a response.



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Well this remind me more of a Lex Luthor with pointy ears rather than Solas...

 

 

Do you know the oldest lie in Thedas, Inquisitor ? It's that power can be innocent...

 

The Red Templars are coming...the Red Templars are coming...

 

The greatest gladiator match in the history of Thedas: Child of the Blight versus Herald of Andraste !

 

That's a three syllable word too big for non-Elven minds...

 

Mmm. The Herald meets The Corypheus. I love it ! I love bringing people together ! How are we ?

 

If The Blighted Magister won't bring down the Veil, then the Dread Wolf will do it !


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Do you know the oldest lie in Thedas, Inquisitor ? It's that power can be innocent...

 

The Red Templars are coming...the Red Templars are coming...

 

The greatest gladiator match in the history of Thedas: Child of the Blight versus Herald of Andraste !

 

That's a three syllable word too big for non-Elven minds...

 

Mmm. The Herald meets The Corypheus. I love it ! I love bringing people together ! How are we ?

 

If The Blighted Magister won't bring down the Veil, then the Dread Wolf will do it !

 

(gazes up at the Breach)

 

We know better now, don't we? Demons don't come from ground beneath us. They come from the sky.


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You flat-out said you doubt ancient elves even reproduce biologically "given that they could just manifest from the Fade" (which you said with complete certainty, like it's a self-evident fact). What other conclusion was I supposed to draw?

 

No I said I'm CURIOUS whether many ancient elves reproduced biologically, given that it's stated in the game that manifesting out of the Fade - parentless - is a thing. Wondering aloud is different from making definitive statements.



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Do you know the oldest lie in Thedas, Inquisitor ? It's that power can be innocent...

The Red Templars are coming...the Red Templars are
coming...

The greatest gladiator match in the history of Thedas: Child of the Blight versus Herald of Andraste !

That's a three syllable word too big for non-Elven minds...

Mmm. The Herald meets The Corypheus. I love it ! I love bringing people together ! How are we ?

If The Blighted Magister won't bring down the Veil, then the Dread Wolf will do it !


.. . I come back after avoiding spoilers and playing Trespasser to find Solas being compared to Lex Luther???


LMAO!!!

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Alright..I'm at it again. Playing another Solas romance. I recreated my Atisha using different mods. I think she looks even better this time. I made her a duel wielding rogue this time.

 

Atisha 2.0

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Why thank you, Solas.

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I love his smile :wub:

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Waking up

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I'm trying not to take the same screenshots I look before.


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Also...found some Solas and Lavellan comics but they are in Italian...can anyone translate?

 

Solas Doubts

 

1: http://idrilelf88.de...oubts-593463664

2: http://idrilelf88.de...pag-2-593464633

3: http://idrilelf88.de...pag-3-593467151

4: http://idrilelf88.de...pag-4-593467950

 

You kind of get the gist of these even if you can't read them.


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Also...found some Solas and Lavellan comics but they are in Italian...can anyone translate?

Solas Doubts

1: http://idrilelf88.de...oubts-593463664
2: http://idrilelf88.de...pag-2-593464633
3: http://idrilelf88.de...pag-3-593467151
4: http://idrilelf88.de...pag-4-593467950

You kind of get the gist of these even if you can't read them.


I... don't think she's a Lavellan. She looks like a Trevelyan. *points at her rounded ears*

*Sunny Greatly Disapproves *  -_-


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Ooooh..I didn't even notice that :(

 

*Night Greatly Disapproves* 


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No I said I'm CURIOUS whether many ancient elves reproduced biologically, given that it's stated in the game that manifesting out of the Fade - parentless - is a thing. Wondering aloud is different from making definitive statements.

 

Since there are implications that Elves and Spirits were interchangeable, dual complementary opposites of one another during the days of ancient Elvhenan, does this actually mean Spirit sex happened and was widespread ?

 

 

I am asking because of this banter and the revelations during the Trespasser.



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Since there are implications that Elves and Spirits were interchangeable, dual complementary opposites of one another during the days of ancient Elvhenan, does this actually mean Spirit sex happened and was widespread ?

 

 

I am asking because of this banter and the revelations during the Trespasser.

Well, there is this: Vir Dirthara: Birds of Fancy

It doesn't explain much, whether they were spirits or elves or something in between, but it looks like it happened often enough for someone pick up a completely random book in the library and catch a memory of it.



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Since there are implications that Elves and Spirits were interchangeable, dual complementary opposites of one another during the days of ancient Elvhenan, does this actually mean Spirit sex happened and was widespread ?

 

I am asking because of this banter and the revelations during the Trespasser.

 

Possibly? Humans, after all (unless they live in restrictive societies) don't treat sex as something that is just a mean for procreation - sex strengthens social bonds, can be a bargaining tool or a way to alleviate stress. In that regard we're somewhat similar to bonobos. And I assume ancient elves were no different, if not even more open about it than human... er, mortal? society in general.

 

Solas, after all, despite thousands of years of solitude expressed the rush of his feelings towards Lavellan in a fairly straightforward, physical manner and does so in a fashion that appears both natural and skilled - to a point when Lavellan pretty much instantly melted in his arms :lol:

 

Second time on a balcony was kiiinda the same - before he states that he actually loves her, he expresses his feelings via kiss first; it's as if words aren't enough and the first thing he thinks about when he wants to communicate his affections is through contact and gesture. The codex in Vir Dirthara also seems to confirm that ancient elves considered physical (or whatever "physical" was before) contact important, calling the described 'dance' a wordless "promise never to be parted, whatever ages come".

 

Still, "ancient elf" appears to be something more than a spirit. The elves call spirits their brethren, not just "the People". And then there are these banters between Solas and Cole:
 

Cole: It makes sense. It holds them as they die. But then it's a man, and he wants a woman. Why?
Solas: When they possess people, they often indulge in feelings they have never before experienced.
Cole: But it changed. It is blank, black, blunted from being. It never wanted before.
Solas: Have you felt no interest in women since you came through the Veil?
Cole: No.
 
So spirits, by themselves (though I suppose it depends what they're spirits of) don't necessarily have to feel things like sex drive or physical attraction... well unless we assume that Cole is simply asexual, or those matters sort of were pushed farther into the background, as he slowly developed his personality.

 

There's also this:

 

(excerpt)

Cole: You don't need to envy me, Solas. You can find happiness in your own way.
Solas: I apologize for disturbing you, Cole. I am not a spirit, and sometimes it is hard to remember such simple truths.
 
So there's a difference between an elf and a spirit, but it's vague enough that sometimes Solas just... forgets that he's more than a spirit?

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Well, there is this: Vir Dirthara: Birds of Fancy

It doesn't explain much, whether they were spirits or elves or something in between, but it looks like it happened often enough for someone pick up a completely random book in the library and catch a memory of it.

 

I had to laugh at that the first time I picked it up. We read a scene that seems... well, pretty magical and all, and suddenly it ends with "get a room, you two!!"


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No I said I'm CURIOUS whether many ancient elves reproduced biologically, given that it's stated in the game that manifesting out of the Fade - parentless - is a thing. Wondering aloud is different from making definitive statements.

 

Please, I'm not trying to offend. Your statement just left me dazzed and confused. I have personally never heard the fan interpretation from vague codex hints that ancient elves were all spirits who manifested from the Fade and then took physical form like our Cole (I've heard the theory that Solas, and possibly other Evanuris, was a Fade spirit who manifested and took physical form, particularly because, "he didn't want to come, but she wanted him to" and such, but as a possible member of the Evanuris he's not exactly an example of your average, everyday ancient elf), so your matter-of-fact statement that "given that they could manifest from the Fade" knocked me for a loop.

 

I never really questioned that ancient elves biologically reproduced like the other races (humans, dwarves, etc), because I never saw the game give me reason to question it. While it's stated that they were immortal and thus slow, ponderous, and never in a hurry to do anything, and I interpret that they likely didn't reproduce often because otherwise there'd be a huge population problem, I'm just personally not sold on the idea that ancient elves manifested from the Fade.

 

I know it's stated in the game that the ancient elves were intricately tied to the Fade and its magic, and that's why they lost their way and their society collapsed when the Veil went up, but I personally think it has more to do with the fact that elves came from a world where the Fade was everywhere (not another place, but a state of being, like the wind) rather than because they were spirits who manifested in the Fade and then took physical form like Cole.

 

That's all I meant.



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So having gone through Trespasser again recently, one thing still kinda confuses me.

Now, possibly, Solas didn't want to go through his long and elaborate backstory, but it didn't seem implied that he was once one of the Evanuris. Rather, that he was (assuming Cole's dialogue was referring to Solas) a servant of Mythal who removed his vallaslin and rose up in rebellion. Maybe he was one of Mythal's highest ranking servants and went rogue, while she provided support. Maybe he was just a regular elf that liked to travel. But his beef with the Evanuris seems more personal than overthrowing the local feudal overlords.

So what's with Fen'harel iconography being everywhere? If one of Mythal's former top guys, that would make sense as an extension of her authority. Dirthamen would acknowledge Mythal's authority over him without the embarrassment of another god's image in his temple. But if not, then the wolf statues everywhere is kinda odd. What does everyone think Solas's relation to the rest of the Evanuris was?



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So having gone through Trespasser again recently, one thing still kinda confuses me.

 

Now, possibly, Solas didn't want to go through his long and elaborate backstory, but it didn't seem implied that he was once one of the Evanuris. Rather, that he was (assuming Cole's dialogue was referring to Solas) a servant of Mythal who removed his vallaslin and rose up in rebellion. Maybe he was one of Mythal's highest ranking servants and went rogue, while she provided support. Maybe he was just a regular elf that liked to travel. But his beef with the Evanuris seems more personal than overthrowing the local feudal overlords.

So what's with Fen'harel iconography being everywhere? If one of Mythal's former top guys, that would make sense as an extension of her authority. Dirthamen would acknowledge Mythal's authority over him without the embarrassment of another god's image in his temple. But if not, then the wolf statues everywhere is kinda odd. What does everyone think Solas's relation to the rest of the Evanuris was?

 

He is not one of the Evanuris but we can reasonably assume that he was one of Mythal's guardian / top guy / enforcer / possibly lover.

 

The best way to think about this is to look at the Crime Syndicate of America from Justice League Crisis on Two Earths:- https://en.wikipedia...cate_of_America

 

 

The Crime Syndicate appeared in the 2010 Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths DC animated film, which was based on the abandoned Justice League: Worlds Collide project. This version of the Crime Syndicate is based on actual crime syndicates, consisting of different families and bosses. It is composed of Ultraman (voiced by Brian Bloom), Superwoman (voiced by Gina Torres), Owlman (voiced by James Woods), Power Ring (voiced by Nolan North), Johnny Quick (voiced by James Patrick Stuart), and J'edd "The Martian" J'arkus (a counterpart of the Martian Manhunter), collectively known as the "Bosses", with Ultraman as the "Boss of Bosses". Below them are lower-tier villains called the "Made Men" who were granted superpowers by the "Bosses" in exchange for joining the Syndicate.

 

The Evanuris are the Bosses of the Crime Syndicate, Elgar'nan was the Boss of Bosses, Mythal was Superwoman and Solas was Mythal's Made-Man who later rebelled.



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He is not one of the Evanuris but we can reasonably assume that he was one of Mythal's guardian / top guy / enforcer / possibly lover.

 

Well, technically, he WAS Evanuris for a time being, when the rest sort of tried to make him a god (either because they thought this is why he instigated his rebellion for, or to put a wedge between him and his followers) -> http://dragonage.wik...Ancient_Mosaics

 

But we don't know what was the power structure during the war, or even times after the war, when the generals first became respected elders, then kings and later gods.

 

There's also a question of position of Forgotten Ones - what were they before they became the Forgotten ones? Personally I think they were rivals or equals to Evanuris which were later exiled or imprisoned after The Leaders began the whole "hey, let's start a pantheon" thing, which may or may not have included previous leaders, or people who were earlier in a position similar to that of Solas (some other god's 'right hand), or generals themselves, who had their own ideas about who or how should rule Elvenhan. And considering that Fen'Harel is described to be sort of both a god and kin with Forgotten Ones, I wouldn't be surprised if - initially - he was deemed to be one of the Forgotten when he began his rebellion.


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David Gaider was at GX Australia and was on some sort of panel.

 

Apparently, Varric was planned to be killed off at the end of the cancelled DA2 DLC.

 

And this:

 

 

Funnily enough, he also said that Patrick Weekes secretly wrote Solas' romance because the team didn't really think it would work? I think that's what he said. He was pretty surprised at how sad it was and he didn't think he could do it, himself.

 

 

We already knew he just sort of went off and wrote it on his own, but there were apparently team doubts....huh.....I'm glad that happened, even with all of the feelings. :D


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Alright..I'm at it again. Playing another Solas romance. I recreated my Atisha using different mods. I think she looks even better this time. I made her a duel wielding rogue this time.

 

Atisha 2.0

*snip*

 

I'm trying not to take the same screenshots I look before.

 

 

Your Inquisitor looks pretty. <3 What specialization would you take for this playthru?

 

Ooooh..I didn't even notice that :(

 

*Night Greatly Disapproves* 

 

Aww, let the artist have her fun. ^^; From what I could make out (my Italian's pretty basic) from the artist's comment, she drew these since her human Inquisitor can't enter a romantic relationship with Solas in the first place (but fanart renders the impossible possible!).

 

And with just how great the Solas romance is, who could blame her?  ^_^


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