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[Delphine]

It's strange - this feeling of 'happiness' I'm experiencing.

 

What is this?  Is it normal?  Natural?

 

I... I wouldn't know.

 

[Lady Luminous]

Ever since I played my Solas-mancer Aithne, none of my inquisitors seem to be friends with Solas.

I miss lovable Solas who doesn't sneer at me. I mean, sure I could meta-game and get him to adore me again, but I want it to feel organic. Hence I'm diving back into the Solas-mancing pool.

I can't wait to create Eibhlin, and use all the pretty mods that exist now. Aithne was made before DA:I mods existed; gosh I'm excited!

[thaali]

Don't think any of you guys remember this, but I mentioned a couple of months ago that I had a friend try out DA:I on my PS4 (she hasn't had time to play much since, but Solas is still her "bestie"). I now gave her one of my extra copies of DA:O and told her to play it on her PS3. She was very skeptical at first, but it only took a few hours for her to fall head over heels in love! She has become quite obsessed with it (and she's really not much of a gamer at all), and I tease her mercilessly with dramatic sighs and comments like "Oh, so you like that character? Well, uhm..."  

 

She has accused me of being evil incarnate. I'm having a hard time disproving that claim.  

 

And a suggestion for those who want to leave solavellan hell for a couple of blissful hours is to watch BBC's miniseries "Pride and Prejudice" and "North and South". Colin Firth as Mr Darcy and Richard Armitage as Mr Thornton.      

 

I saw the Colin Firth version of Pride and Prejudice forever ago, way way before the new one with came out and I hate the newer one.  The Colin Firth version is where it's at. 

[TheyCallMeBunny]

I saw the Colin Firth version of Pride and Prejudice forever ago, way way before the new one with came out and I hate the newer one.  The Colin Firth version is where it's at. 

 

North and South is like a slightly darker version of Pride and Prejudice - I highly recommend it!

 

I wish BioWare could hire Armitage to voice a companion... my heart would melt to goo... 

[ShallowlLife9871]

Love the Colin Firth version of Darcy....*sigh*

[animedreamer]

What do you think would have happened had Solas and Lavellan both attempted the Divine back at the temple of sacred ashes? Like the both walked into the room at the same time, bar Lavellan catching the rolling orb and instead Solas grabbing it.

[Ellawynn]

I... I wouldn't know.

 

 

Says you. I'm perfectly happy in the Solavellan pit. There's so much delicious angst down here. 

[DiannaK]

What do you think would have happened had Solas and Lavellan both attempted the Divine back at the temple of sacred ashes? Like the both walked into the room at the same time, bar Lavellan catching the rolling orb and instead Solas grabbing it.

KABOOM?

[animedreamer]

KABOOM?

You don't think maybe he would have at least obtained the anchor and used it the way it was meant to be used? I like to imagine he, Lavellan and the Divine would have all ended up in the Fade at the least with he and Lavellan making it out.

[Melbella]

Love the Colin Firth version of Darcy....*sigh*

There are others?

[Bayonet Hipshot]

I have a few questions that I hope you folks can help me answer...I am asking them out of curiosity...

 

1) Why do all the Elves I see in fantasy games (except Elder Scrolls Elves) are physically beautiful and pretty ? Is this due to Tolkien or something else ? Has anyone made / roleplayed an average looking Elven character ? How was it like ?

 

2) We know Elves have pubic hair (from Sera's romance) but why can't they have body hair ? Speaking of hair, can Elves have curly hair (by curly I mean genuinely curly hair like some Africans have) or are they just limited to straight hair ?

 

3) Is it just me or are the Theodosian Elves are based on a blend of Ancient Native Indians, Jewish, and Scottish cultures ?

 

4) The number of Elven mages to succumb to possession and turn to abomination is somehow lesser than the number of Human mages to succumb to possession and turn to abomination (at least that is what it feels like. Marethari and Mihris are the only notable Elven mages to fall to possession so far and Mihris got out of it). Is this because of their nature as an Elf (being more in tune with the Fade) or is it simply due to the fact we don't see many Elves around ?

 

5) Have you played many Elven characters who did not hate humans ? How was the experience ?

[midnight tea]

I have a few questions that I hope you folks can help me answer...I am asking them out of curiosity...

 

1) Why do all the Elves I see in fantasy games (except Elder Scrolls Elves) are physically beautiful and pretty ? Is this due to Tolkien or something else ? Has anyone made / roleplayed an average looking Elven character ? How was it like ?

 

2) We know Elves have pubic hair (from Sera's romance) but why can't they have body hair ? Speaking of hair, can Elves have curly hair (by curly I mean genuinely curly hair like some Africans have) or are they just limited to straight hair ?

 

3) Is it just me or are the Theodosian Elves are based on a blend of Ancient Native Indians, Jewish, and Scottish cultures ?

 

4) The number of Elven mages to succumb to possession and turn to abomination is somehow lesser than the number of Human mages to succumb to possession and turn to abomination (at least that is what it feels like. Marethari and Mihris are the only notable Elven mages to fall to possession so far and Mihris got out of it). Is this because of their nature as an Elf (being more in tune with the Fade) or is it simply due to the fact we don't see many Elves around ?

 

5) Have you played many Elven characters who did not hate humans ? How was the experience ?

 

1). Half of it is probably Tolkien, and half of it is probably mythology in general. I don't recall elves belonging to the 'ugly' side of mythological creatures - they were there with fairies and nymphs, or at least they are there now in general public consciousness.

 

2). No idea? Maybe it's a matter of aesthetics that got sort of ingrained so much in elven psyche that it affects their physique? Kieran, after all, tells the elven Inquisitor that he doesn't understand why elves "want to look like that". I assume he doesn't just mean elf ears, but also their sharp features, high-bridged noses, large eyes and may or may not include the lack of most facial or body hair.

 

Also - we don't have many curly or wavy hair in DA CCs, more than likely because they're harder to pull off, but since elves can use all the other hair styles other races can use - just like skin colors - I assume that can indeed have curly hair.

 

3). Um, in what sense? Not in a cultural sense, no. I see a lot of Celtic and certainly ancient Greek/Mediterrenean influences, plus a hint of gnosticism, of all things (some details that remind me of this early sect of Christianity, but too vague to be certain of them), but Jewish, or Native Indian? Not sure about that.

 

4). Probably because we don't see that many elves around. I mean, it COULD be that they're harder to posses, but the sample is too low at this point. Also - the Tevinter Imperium is ruled by human mages, but we don't hear many possession stories from Tevinter.

 

5). I don't think I've ever played a character that just straightforwardly hated humans. Didn't trust or was wary of humans? Hated everyone equally (for a time being at least)? Yes. Hated just humans? No, not really.

[NightSymphony]

Elves have always been beautiful.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elf

http://mythology.wikia.com/wiki/Elf

[Ghost Gal]

I saw the Colin Firth version of Pride and Prejudice forever ago, way way before the new one with came out and I hate the newer one.  The Colin Firth version is where it's at. 

 

Hey, I like the newer one. Focus Features knows how to make an adaptation.

 

Besides, I think Mathew McFadyen makes a better Darcy.

 

[/is shot]

 

Okay, hear me out. I've read the book three times, and the Darcy from the book is described as tall, dark, dour, brooding, and can come across as either proud and disdainful or just a little melancholic, depending on who he's talking to and how much effort he puts into making himself agreeable. Matthew McFadyen owns those descriptions in the film (you could come into the film blind and know nothing of the story, like my beau did when I forced him to watch it last Valentine's day  , and without the characters saying a word you can instantly tell that about him. "Wow, what a black hole of unhappiness," my beau said; "What a kill-joy!"), but I don't think Colin Firth really embodies any of those traits. He's not particularly tall, nor dark, nor does he come across as either proud nor dour in the film. He's just kind of an average-looking guy kind of standing there at parties, kind of quiet but not dour nor unapproachable, yet all the characters have to constantly talk about how much of a proud, unpleasant kill-joy he is, because if they didn't the audience could never tell. Plus, I just don't find Colin Firth that handsome or dreamy. 

[Ghost Gal]

I have a few questions that I hope you folks can help me answer...I am asking them out of curiosity...

 

1) Why do all the Elves I see in fantasy games (except Elder Scrolls Elves) are physically beautiful and pretty ? Is this due to Tolkien or something else ? Has anyone made / roleplayed an average looking Elven character ? How was it like ?

 

2) We know Elves have pubic hair (from Sera's romance) but why can't they have body hair ? Speaking of hair, can Elves have curly hair (by curly I mean genuinely curly hair like some Africans have) or are they just limited to straight hair ?

 

3) Is it just me or are the Theodosian Elves are based on a blend of Ancient Native Indians, Jewish, and Scottish cultures ?

 

4) The number of Elven mages to succumb to possession and turn to abomination is somehow lesser than the number of Human mages to succumb to possession and turn to abomination (at least that is what it feels like. Marethari and Mihris are the only notable Elven mages to fall to possession so far and Mihris got out of it). Is this because of their nature as an Elf (being more in tune with the Fade) or is it simply due to the fact we don't see many Elves around ?

 

5) Have you played many Elven characters who did not hate humans ? How was the experience ?

 

1) Yup. It's because of Tolkien. Before him, there were no consistent physical descriptions of elves. They're mentioned in surviving manuscripts of medieval Scandinavian/Germanic "pagan" lore, but not physically described. In European folklore, they were only vaguely described as tiny, mischievous, naked, wild little  nature spirits. (Similar to how we now think of fairies, actually.) In later centuries, especially near and during the Victorian Era, they were more-or-less interchangeable with nymphs and faeries.

 

Tolkien was the one who solidified them in popular culture by describing them as ethereally beautiful, immortal, graceful, connected to nature (which, for Tolkien, was supposed to be a good thing; since he lived before the popular backlash against hippies and environmentalism), thus having "leaf-shaped ears" and nature-friendly weapons (like bows), etc. Since Tolkien basically redefined the fantasy genre, countless authors have just played Follow the Leader.

 

2) It's part of that whole "elves are supposed to embody ideal beauty" thing, which I think Tolkien's endless knock-offs have run away with more than Tolkien described himself. I don't think Tolkien really described them beyond beyond being beautiful, graceful, ethereal, beardless, etc. It was D&D (the insanely popular roleplaying game that came out soon after Tolkien's cult popularity took off, and which solidified the "standard fantasy setting" that Tolkien inspired) were the ones who said elves definitely don't have any body hair apart from that on their head, their eyebrows, and eyelashes.

 

As for "curly" hair, Thedosian elves have been shown to have other African features (dark skin, dark eyes, full lips and nose and cheekbones, etc), so I don't think there's any reason they can't have thick, curly hair. =) (Heck, as of DAI we can choose such for our elves, although it's limited to semi-buzz cuts.    )

 

3) Oh, it's definitely not just you. A lot of people have come to recognize that either on their own, or after someone pointed it out. Jews, Romani, African Americans, Native Americans, ancient Celts (conquered and persecuted by Anglos and Saxons), Irish (persecuted by Brits and Americans); Thedas elves have 'em all. If Thedas is Fantasy Medieval Europe and humans are fantasy Medieval Catholics, then the elves are every minority group the Europeans ever came into contact with, stuck in a blender, then stuck with pointed ears.

 

It was actually the selling point for me on this game. A friend of a friend described the setting and DAO's origins, and mentioned how "Dalish elves are like wandering gypsies, while city elves are like European Jews living in ghettos." I said, "I'm Jewish! I must play this game!" and bought it first opportunity.

 

4) I think it's just because we don't see that many elves around. For every group of Circle mages we encounter, there seems to be like one or two elves among them. (DAO Circle, every group of mages you run into in DA2, Fiona's Circle mages at Redcliffe in DAI, mage allies at Skyhold, etc.)

 

5) I don't think I ever made an elven character who hated humans. Bitter about her people's lot? Yeah. Kind of resented humanity in general for how she and/or her people are often treated? Sure. Sensitive to comments from humans about elves (that is, alert for any slur or insult)? Guilty. But not hate, and definitely not one to try to hurt or punish humans.

 

Long, unnecessary explanation of characters time:

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I mean, my Warden Tabris fell in romantic love with Morrigan and Alistair, and gave up her ambition to make Alistiar king to help her people partly because she didn't want to force him into anything, nor give up the relationship. I also imagine that Anders and Nathaniel became some of her best friends in Awakening. (Until Anders absorbed Justice and ran off with Hawke.  ) My mage elf was less nice and more angry at humans, but she regarded Wynne and Irving as surrogate parents and her moral compass. My Dalish didn't have a racist bone in her body because she was highly autistic and didn't really care about anything besides hunting, trapping, and crafting weapons and traps for the next hunt. Her dislike of humans began and ended with individual humans preventing elven individuals from pursuing their passion the way she wanted to be free to occasionally have spare time to pursue hers. One of my Lavellans romanced Cullen, another Dorian, another Cassandra, and the only one who romanced Solas considered Dorian, Cassandra, and Cullen to be her closest and most trusted friends by the end of Trespasser. If that's not a lack of hate for humans, I don't know what is.

[Garnet]

Elves have always been beautiful.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elf

http://mythology.wikia.com/wiki/Elf

Buuut.. Link is not an elf! (First picture of the second.....link. )

[CapricornSun]

Art, art, art.

 

Solavellan kisses.

Spoiler

Source: http://palmsmudges.t...can-grip-ensues

 

 

Lovely little comic of Solas pouring tea/coffee for Lavellan then dozing off to sleep

(all curled up) on her couch as she does some paperwork. 

Spoiler

Source: http://athousanddayy...713/wip-i-guess

 

 

Adorable warmup sketch of Lavellan kissing Solas. (With little Varric cheering and Cass blushing in the background. )

Spoiler

Source: http://athousanddayy...73/quick-warmup

 

 

Sketch of Solas and Lavellan reading in bed after a day of adventuring.

Spoiler

Source: http://missanorexorc...avellan-reading

 

 

Looking Glass fanart: Pride x Lavellan forehead touches.

Spoiler

Source: http://izzayylmao.tu...head-touches-is

 

 

“Don’t look back…” 

Out of all the feats in all his thousands of years, this was the most difficult one. And one he failed at miserably.

“Vhenan.”

Spoiler

Source: http://thesnowmage.t...he-feats-in-all

 

 

Solas face studies.

Spoiler

Source: http://destinyaposta...sketches-before

 

 

Ancient elf booty. (NSFW-ish? Because it's just his butt? It's a clothed butt though. )

Spoiler

Source: http://sin-harel.tum...cient-elf-booty

 

 

Solas and Inquisitor Adaar. (She's pretty!)

Spoiler

Source: http://muruchi.tumbl...nquisitor-adaar

 

 

The Inquisitor sees something shiny when they look through the ocularum. And it's not a shard.

Spoiler

Source: http://allublog.tumb...st/140316275184

 

 

The artist's DA heroes and their love interests. (Zevran x m!Tabris, Garrett Hawke x Anders, Solas x Lavellan)

Spoiler

Source: http://neboou.tumblr...n-and-their-lis

 

[Caddius]

The elves are depicted as having otherworldly beauty because some of the more famous iterations of the Fair Folk, like the Tuatha de Danann, for instance, were Irish, and Irish women are the most beautiful women in the world.

Yes, my Irish SO does have a lot of knives, why do you ask? 

 

Fun side-note: apparently lacking a good word to translate elf to, the Finnish translators for Lord of the Rings replaced every instance of elf with the Finnish word for demon. Naturally every encounter with elves becomes insanely creepy, because it goes from 'look how pretty they are and how pretty their trees are' to some Dresden Files Winter Seelie level **** right quick. 

[Bayonet Hipshot]

The elves are depicted as having otherworldly beauty because some of the more famous iterations of the Fair Folk, like the Tuatha de Danann, for instance, were Irish, and Irish women are the most beautiful women in the world.

 

Yes, my Irish SO does have a lot of knives, why do you ask? 

 

Fun side-note: apparently lacking a good word to translate elf to, the Finnish translators for Lord of the Rings replaced every instance of elf with the Finnish word for demon. Naturally every encounter with elves becomes insanely creepy, because it goes from 'look how pretty they are and how pretty their trees are' to some Dresden Files Winter Seelie level **** right quick. 

 

Irish women are the most beautiful women in the world ?

[Caddius]

Irish women are the most beautiful women in the world ?

Well, mine is. *shrug* I haven't met the rest.

[Aren]

The magical coma of Uthenera is elven specific or other races can do that?

[Illyria]

The magical coma of Uthenera is elvhen specific or other races can do that?

 

Elven.

[Aren]

Elven.

Oh my mistake i wrote "elvhen" Solas would have slapped me for sure...

[Illyria]

Oh my mistake i wrote "elvhen" Solas would have slapped me for sure...

 

I meant it that it's an elven only thing.

[AlleluiaElizabeth]

I wonder, do we know that for sure? I mean, a human or qunari (though prolly not a dwarf cus no dreams) might be able to experience Uthenera, too, and just hasn't cus no one knows how it works/has the inclination. Not sure we know enough about Uthenera to declare it impossible that non-elves can undergo it.