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Art break.

 

Mages of the Inquisition. (Solas, Vivienne, and Dorian.)

 

'Solas at Fen'Harel's Temple'. (Gorgeous art! Don't remember if this was shared here before though. xD)

 

A doodle of Solas. (Handsome <3)

 

And another lovely sketch of Solas. <3

 

Adorable Solavellan.


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I find it interesting that the wolf is howling and the dragon is bowing (almost submissively/acknowledging/any number of interpretations really...) 

Ugh, where's DA4 news <_<

Both statues look sad to me, though that could be the context of the shot coloring my perceptions.


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I find it interesting that the wolf is howling and the dragon is bowing (almost submissively/acknowledging/any number of interpretations really...) 

Ugh, where's DA4 news <_<

 

Stab in the dark here, in this scene the Dread Wolf just sucked the life force out of the dragon lady. I think the symbolism has something to do with that...

 

God, where is the DA4 news? The devs have been all, "If we make another DA game" whenever someone asked about sequel hooks. It's not funny anymore, guys. Let's change the discussion to "When we make another DA game..."



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Artses

 

Solas and Lavellan in the stars

http://alexielapril....ether-596677997

 

The Fox and the Wolf

http://gabriellaadel...-Wolf-596534053


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Stab in the dark here, in this scene the Dread Wolf just sucked the life force out of the dragon lady. I think the symbolism has something to do with that...

 

God, where is the DA4 news? The devs have been all, "If we make another DA game" whenever someone asked about sequel hooks. It's not funny anymore, guys. Let's change the discussion to "When we make another DA game..."

 

They probably can't say anything publicly without going through a PR rep, so until EA greenlights a sequel and tells the writers/PR department that they can talk about that, it's going to be a bunch of "ifs" and "maybes." When that happens, it'll probably be with a lot of ceremony and fanfare, because this industry runs on hype and letting some writer off-handedly mention a sequel on Twitter doesn't get people as excited as some over-the-top announcement. 

 

It's not like the writers are doing this just to be funny. They're still working for businessmen, and can't go around doing or saying whatever they'd like.


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I was at the Edmonton Expo this year and at one of the BioWare panels they actually said something along the lines of "until Legal says we can, we can't announce anything DA4 related - if there even will be a DA4."

It was a lot of winking and nudging and hinting going on though, so I'm sure we'll get details soon.
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For those hoping to stop/save Solas as the Inquisitor, I have some bad news. Bioware confirmed at a panel that one of the goals of the Trespasser DLC was to "conclusively tie off this protagonist". 

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For those hoping to stop/save Solas as the Inquisitor, I have some bad news. Bioware confirmed at a panel that one of the goals of the Trespasser DLC was to "conclusively tie off this protagonist". 

 

Eh. We might not see the Inquisitor as the protagonist again, but nothing saying they can't otherwise have a role in the story. Just hopefully executed a bit better than Hawke was.

 

Interesting though, considering the comment Weekes made on Twitter about that.


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Eh. We might not see the Inquisitor as the protagonist again, but nothing saying they can't otherwise have a role in the story. Just hopefully executed a bit better than Hawke was.

 

Interesting though, considering the comment Weekes made on Twitter about that.

True. I just meant that we personally won't be playing the Inquisitor even if they do have a role in the story.

They can't execute it any worse than Hawke, right?  :?

 

Which tweet?



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Eh. We might not see the Inquisitor as the protagonist again, but nothing saying they can't otherwise have a role in the story. Just hopefully executed a bit better than Hawke was.

 

Interesting though, considering the comment Weekes made on Twitter about that.

 

Yes, I'd say that Weekes' comment basically evens out the field again. The rift closing is done, hence they took the Mark to signify it - that doesn't mean the end of Inquisitor per se; just a start of new role or arc, even if they're not back in major role again (and I pretty much always considered dual-protag the most interesting route they could take).



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Art post.

 

Another gorgeous Solavellan artwork by nanananananablr. (Did they just... oh my...  :blush: )

 

When the bae catches you staring cause he rolled up his sleeves. (Solavellan)  ^_^

 

Lavellan daydreaming about Solas. :D

 

Sad Solas.

 

Solas sketch.

 

Concept!Solas.


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I was at the Edmonton Expo this year and at one of the BioWare panels they actually said something along the lines of "until Legal says we can, we can't announce anything DA4 related - if there even will be a DA4."

It was a lot of winking and nudging and hinting going on though, so I'm sure we'll get details soon.

 

I'm not so sure about "soon." EA probably wants all focus to be on Andromeda right now, which I imagine is pretty much the biggest reason they're keeping so quiet about DA4. (Which, I mean, c'mon, it's gonna happen. It was always gonna happen. Inquisition may have garnered some mixed reviews, but it sold brilliantly.) I obviously can't say for sure, but I imagine we'll see an official announcement on DA4 and some details on development after - or maybe slightly before - Andromeda comes out. I'm just wondering where that new IP will fit into this.

 

But there has been a lot of winking and nudging, which wouldn't make sense otherwise since Weekes and the other writers haven't been (officially) assigned to the new IP or Andromeda. So, really, there's only one other thing they could be working on.


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I'm not so sure about "soon." EA probably wants all focus to be on Andromeda right now, which I imagine is pretty much the biggest reason they're keeping so quiet about DA4. (Which, I mean, c'mon, it's gonna happen. It was always gonna happen. Inquisition may have garnered some mixed reviews, but it sold brilliantly.) I obviously can't say for sure, but I imagine we'll see an official announcement on DA4 and some details on development after - or maybe slightly before - Andromeda comes out. I'm just wondering where that new IP will fit into this.

 

But there has been a lot of winking and nudging, which wouldn't make sense otherwise since Weekes and the other writers haven't been (officially) assigned to the new IP or Andromeda. So, really, there's only one other thing they could be working on.

 

Well, from the looks of it new IP game is in playable state now and some devs working on it seem to be itching to tell us more about it, so I assume it might not take long for some "sikrets" to be revealed.



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I'm not so sure about "soon." EA probably wants all focus to be on Andromeda right now, which I imagine is pretty much the biggest reason they're keeping so quiet about DA4. (Which, I mean, c'mon, it's gonna happen. It was always gonna happen. Inquisition may have garnered some mixed reviews, but it sold brilliantly.) I obviously can't say for sure, but I imagine we'll see an official announcement on DA4 and some details on development after - or maybe slightly before - Andromeda comes out. I'm just wondering where that new IP will fit into this.

But there has been a lot of winking and nudging, which wouldn't make sense otherwise since Weekes and the other writers haven't been (officially) assigned to the new IP or Andromeda. So, really, there's only one other thing they could be working on.

True, definitely not as soon as we all wish.

Gods I'm curious about the new IP.

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Solas Thread, I'm so sorry I left you for Cassandra; I've had a fetish for her romance and I've been unable to stop romancing her. It's gotten to the point where I never get to my Solas romance, who's sitting soundly at level 6 (after the game deleted like 11 levels off my Solas romance). I'm afraid I might romance Cassandra again, as a my new male PC and I'll never get to my Solas romance >.<

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Interesting though, considering the comment Weekes made on Twitter about that.

 

 

Yes, I'd say that Weekes' comment basically evens out the field again. 

 

Which tweet?

Which tweet indeed?

I may be blind but it doesn't seem to be there anymore.. Can anyone report what was said? :)

Dunno :( I still had hope left so now I feel a bit crushed D:

Basically if that's how they are going to go.. 
Eventually it's the player's choice so I'm sure you will be able to save Solas if you so wish. 

However it will not be Lavellan (or other inquis) to do it, but some unknown person with no relation to Solas, and that kinda kills it for me a bit.

:crying: 

Sure, it's still too early to say, but eh.  :?


EDIT: nvm, found the tweet, I'm indeed blind.
Well not sure of that changes anything or not XD



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True. I just meant that we personally won't be playing the Inquisitor even if they do have a role in the story.

They can't execute it any worse than Hawke, right?  :?

 

Which tweet?

 

This tweet:

 

https://twitter.com/...588579274522625


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Unfortunately that just means that's not why they took the hand.  Don't get me wrong, I *want* to play as the Inquisitor again because having the Inquisitor be the one who actually deals with Solas just makes sense.  But that tweet was pretty much just answering that guy's question of "is that why you took the hand".  Weekes says, no that's not why we took the hand.


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I wonder how the Well of Sorrows will play into things, as well. As it stands, the role can be played by both Morrigan or the Inquisitor; it's possible they just came up with it to have someone unable to act against Mythal/Flemeth for the ending of DA:I, but I'm inclined to thinking it'll play a bigger role.

 

It's potentially Quizzy who drank it, so I wonder how that'll be written.

 

Edit: But I don't want Quizzy to be the protag either. Let them be involved in off-screen Solas-related things and cameo'ing. (I didn't hate what they did with Hawke.)



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I'll add this ... if their intent was to "tie off that protagonist" they did a bad job.  Especially with the ending cutscene which practically screams "I'm not done yet" from the Inquisitor.

 

But what happens, happens.


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I'm not invested in convincing myself that we'll play as the Inquisitor in DA4. I'd just find it very unsatisfying to interact with Solas as a completely new character and not let the ones that got to know -- and sometimes love -- him be the ones there at whatever conclusion there will be. I mean, I already know what limits my Lavellan has and what her choice will be up to that point. What I'd love to see is what my Adaar does in the end, because she's a bitter and betrayed wildcard. So much angst and feelings and potential.

 

I guess this is all assuming we redeem/stop/whatever Solas in DA4. We really have no idea what to expect with that yet, so I guess it's just about settling in for the long wait until there is news. Still. Playing an amputee protagonist character? That would be nice and it's for that alone I'd like to see the Inquisitor back in some honest capacity.


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Well, I personally hope that what they meant was more "tie off the Inquisitor as protagonist" - but perhaps not excluding Lavellan/Trevelyan/etc as protagonist in the next game? After all, we see at the end of Trespasser that, even should the Inquisition continue as Divine Victoria's force, our hero will likely not continue as Inquisitor since she will have her own agenda.

 

I wouldn't want our character to reappear in DA4 as an unplayable cameo... I want to be the one finishing off Lavellan's story, not having it play out without my input.


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Well, I personally hope that what they meant was more "tie off the Inquisitor as protagonist" - but perhaps not excluding Lavellan/Trevelyan/etc as protagonist in the next game? After all, we see at the end of Trespasser that, even should the Inquisition continue as Divine Victoria's force, our hero will likely not continue as Inquisitor since she will have her own agenda.

 

That was my initial impression, because there's no doubt the story of the Inquisition is over, and with it, the story of the Inquisitor. But I agree with Elessara -- if they meant to definitively tie off Lavellan/Cadash/Trevelyan/Adaar as a character, they did a poor job of it at the end of Trespasser.


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I'll add this ... if their intent was to "tie off that protagonist" they did a bad job.  Especially with the ending cutscene which practically screams "I'm not done yet" from the Inquisitor.

 

But what happens, happens.

 

Seriously. They did nothing but lay the groundwork for a whole other story. Letting someone new with no connection to Solas solve the arc would rob the Inquisitor of any resolution, and depending on how much effort they put into humanizing Solas a second time, it could rob him of a lot of his complexity too. I'd hate to see him just be "generic evil overlord trying to destroy the world #44590" because that's all the new protagonist can see him as, having never really gotten to know him. 


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Couldn't one say that the endings of Dragon Age Origins "conclusively tied off this protagonist" with regards to the Warden? In fact, much more conclusively than the events of Trespasser did the Inquisitor b/c the Warden had no real hanging plot threads by the end. They slayed the archdemon, and either lived to be a hero or died in the attempt. Their goal was accomplished. And yet the Warden, if alive, still returns as Warden Commander of Amaranthine to experience a whole new, mostly unconnected adventure. 

 

The story of the Inquisition, and our role as its leader, is concluded. If you consider the protagonist to be the Inquisitor (or the Inquisition itself) then its possible to say "mission accomplished". The person behind the Inquisitor role(Trevelyan/Lavellan/Cadash/Adaar), however, has more to deal with still, as the DLC itself shows with the fervent planning in the basement that all PCs see no matter their choices. 

 

I'm not trying to be overly literal here with this slide. I think this differentiation btwn the Inquisitor and Trevelyan/Lavellan/Cadash/Adaar is a valid interpretation b/c it would actually be keeping with the theme of how the Inquisitor (and the Herald of Andraste) was becoming a symbol that was almost a separate entity from the actual person behind it. Many companions commented on it: Varric, Cassandra, Vivienne, etc. And there was a general theme of people wearing a mask or Becoming the Mask throughout the entire game. It wouldn't surprise me if the dev team also thought of the Inquisitor in this way on a meta-level. And, due to this, its entirely possible for them to say they want to "tie up" the Inquisitor as protagonist in DA3 and still have Trevelyan/Lavellan/Cadash/Adaar playable in some capacity in DA4.

 

tl;dr that slide doesn't rule out being able to play as your Inquisitor at some point in DA4, imo.


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