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[Addictress]

Yeah it was just a joke, bred from my feels for Solas -__-

[Addictress]

I think Varric had meaningful interactions in his Bianca sidequest. Maybe a lot of the content could be like the Inquisitor's sidequest.

And again, of course I'd prefer just continuing Inquisitor as main protag. But I think Bioware won't do this - it'd be easier to convince them to make the Inquisitor a companion.

[midnight tea]

I think Varric had meaningful interactions in his Bianca sidequest. Maybe a lot of the content could be like the Inquisitor's sidequest.

And again, of course I'd prefer just continuing Inquisitor as main protag. But I think Bioware won't do this - it'd be easier to convince them to make the Inquisitor a companion.

 

I don't think it's a matter of convincing. They likely already know what they want to do, and even assuming that things won't go they way they want to, they have a role for Inky set. Now it's more a matter of us guessing what that role is and how extensive it would be.

 

IMO having Inky that is at least partially controllable is probably an optimal solution from the way I see it, because there's never a guarantee they'd nail the myriads of possible characterizations Inky could have via one or two personal quests.... Varric was a set character, Inquisitor isn't.

That's he biggest issue I see with them pulling Inky off, considering that Inky is in many respects like Warden - they don't have distinct paragon/renegade responses or three personality flavors of Hawke and those flavors they have are less pronounced; their responses allowed for more nuance between characterizations which may be very difficult to catch, either with Inky as a PC or NPC.

[Elessara]

 

The way I see it there's no guarantee that Inky would have any more meaningful dialogue/interactions as a protagonist. Whether they end up as an NPC/2nd protagonist or a protagonist, Bioware writers have a tough nut to crack here. Of course, I'm sure that they've been thinking/working on it ever since since they've decided to split the Inquisition plot arc in half and retain Inquisitor in some capacity and they appear to be pretty confident so far that they can pull this off, so whatever they have in store for us will likely be interesting, even if just from implementation perspective.

 

Also - the way I see it, having Inky as a companion (be it one that becomes controllable or not) means a lot of meaningful banter and interactions. On both sides. I see quite a lot of people being really interested in playing a native of Tevinter.... having Inky as a companion would mean that Inky could be audience's surrogate in terms of learning about Tevinter (it'd be bizarre if a native of Tevinter wouldn't know much about it...) On the other hand, Inky could also mentor a young protagonist, inform them about what they've found out, talk about Solas or tell them about the past and deeds as Inquisitor (great for newcomers to the series). Not at all cosmetic thing IMO.

 

 

Quite a few people (not all, I know) want to play as the Inquisitor again because the Inquisitor is the one who has a past with Solas.  BioWare has basically created this situation between the Inquisitor and Solas.  If some random new person pops in and decides Solas's fate, it diminishes the impact.  There's also the hope of a resolution of some sort with Solas and a romanced Lavellan.  I know it's been discussed in this forum quite a few times.  This is the meaningful impact I was referring to.  So, say you're playing some random new person with the Inquisitor in tow ... you get to the end and all of a sudden, Inquisitor-companion (who you may have never even bothered to bring along in the first place) gets to make the choice about Solas?  This does not make much sense to me.  Do you get to decide what Inquisitor-companion says?  How they react?  There were a lot of complaints about how Hawke was handled in this regard.  Also, Dorian would very likely react differently to an Inquisitor than to random_new_person_001.  Same with his friend from the wartable missions.  Provided of course that you meet either one of them in the next game.

 

At any rate, either they have the Inquisitor as protagonist (which seems unlikely), have the Inquisitor as a dual protagonist with a new person (also seems unlikely) or they have them in the background.  A companion does not make sense to me.

[Elessara]

I think Varric had meaningful interactions in his Bianca sidequest. Maybe a lot of the content could be like the Inquisitor's sidequest.

And again, of course I'd prefer just continuing Inquisitor as main protag. But I think Bioware won't do this - it'd be easier to convince them to make the Inquisitor a companion.

 

As Midnight tea said, we likely won't be able to convince BioWare of anything at this point.  I'm fairly sure the writing began for the next DA game before DAI was even released.  At this point the story might still be undergoing some changes but the main plot is probably already set.

[midnight tea]

Quite a few people (not all, I know) want to play as the Inquisitor again because the Inquisitor is the one who has a past with Solas.  BioWare has basically created this situation between the Inquisitor and Solas.  If some random new person pops in and decides Solas's fate, it diminishes the impact.  There's also the hope of a resolution of some sort with Solas and a romanced Lavellan.  I know it's been discussed in this forum quite a few times.  This is the meaningful impact I was referring to.  So, say you're playing some random new person with the Inquisitor in tow ... you get to the end and all of a sudden, Inquisitor-companion (who you may have never even bothered to bring along in the first place) gets to make the choice about Solas?  This does not make much sense to me.  Do you get to decide what Inquisitor-companion says?  How they react?  There were a lot of complaints about how Hawke was handled in this regard.  Also, Dorian would very likely react differently to an Inquisitor than to random_new_person_001.  Same with his friend from the wartable missions.  Provided of course that you meet either one of them in the next game.

 

At any rate, either they have the Inquisitor as protagonist (which seems unlikely), have the Inquisitor as a dual protagonist with a new person (also seems unlikely) or they have them in the background.  A companion does not make sense to me.

 

See, I've spent quite some time around the forum arguing with people who were adamant that Inquisitor either won't or can't be back, which makes no sense, because the story certainly implies that they will and the devs so far said nothing that would negate this... But I think that it's the same sort of mistake going in the other direction and insisting that the story wouldn't work if Inquisitor is anything other than main protagonist. 

 

I see no reason to think that including a new protagonist would diminish any sort of impact - we didn't play with Solas as PC, yet didn't his story have an impact on us?

 

DA is a story of multiple characters NOT because we switch protags with each installment, but because in each chapter BW tells the story of many people. We come to know and care about them not through playing them, but interacting with our PCs - and I don't think that would change in the future.

 

If BW manages to create meaningful interactions and dynamic between Inky and a new PC, I see no reason to claim that the story would be "diminished" - in fact it may be even more interesting if it turns out that the new PC could be in conflict, either with Inquisitor or moral conflict about the whole situation, if it turns out that the story will make a good case for Solas following through with his plans, or at least understand his motives much better than we do now. Or, on the other hand, they could be in conflict, because the plan is crazy, but Inky thinks that Solas can be reasoned with, or that they went on their side or whatever else. There are so many interesting possibilities I could think of that could add to the story, rather than subtract from it.

 

 

Speaking of interesting possibilities - wouldn't it be interesting if the game allowed us to start either as Solas or Inquisitor's spy? I know this most likely won't happen, because Bioware would have to create almost two separate stories, and that's on top of possible inclusion of recurring appearance of Inquisitor with all the baggage they come with from previous game, but it'd be a cool thing if they managed to actually pull that off.

[Elessara]

See, I've spent quite some time around the forum arguing with people who were adamant that Inquisitor either won't or can't be back, which makes no sense, because the story certainly implies that they will and the devs so far said nothing that would negate this... But I think that it's the same sort of mistake going in the other direction and insisting that the story wouldn't work if Inquisitor is anything other than main protagonist. 

 

I see no reason to think that including a new protagonist would diminish any sort of impact - we didn't play with Solas as PC, yet didn't his story have an impact on us?

 

DA is a story of multiple characters NOT because we switch protags with each installment, but because in each chapter BW tells the story of many people. We come to know and care about them not through playing them, but interacting with our PCs - and I don't think that would change in the future.

 

If BW manages to create meaningful interactions and dynamic between Inky and a new PC, I see no reason to claim that the story would be "diminished" - in fact it may be even more interesting if it turns out that the new PC could be in conflict, either with Inquisitor or moral conflict about the whole situation, if it turns out that the story will make a good case for Solas following through with his plans, or at least understand his motives much better than we do now. Or, on the other hand, they could be in conflict, because the plan is crazy, but Inky thinks that Solas can be reasoned with, or that they went on their side or whatever else. There are so many interesting possibilities I could think of that could add to the story, rather than subtract from it.

 

 

Speaking of interesting possibilities - wouldn't it be interesting if the game allowed us to start either as Solas or Inquisitor's spy? I know this most likely won't happen, because Bioware would have to create almost two separate stories, and that's on top of possible inclusion of recurring appearance of Inquisitor with all the baggage they come with from previous game, but it'd be a cool thing if they managed to actually pull that off.

 

 

I'm not saying the story won't/can't work without the Inquisitor as the next protagonist.  I'm saying that because of the relationship (lover/friend/foe) that was built between Solas and the Inquisitor it will lose a certain .. intimacy?  The Inquisitor and Solas spent an entire game (a couple years or so) together, whether they liked, loved or hated each other.  To a new character, Solas will most likely come off as just the next BBEG.    Unless BioWare somehow wants to spend an entire game having Solas and the new protagonist get to know each other and such.  It doesn't matter if we, as the players, know Solas.  It matters what our character in game experiences.  To the new protag, Solas will just be their Archdemon or their Meredith or their Corypheus.  To the Inquisitor, Solas is their friend/their love/that arrogant jerk they punched.  It would be - to me - a much less interesting game if someone new, who had no such history with Solas, deals with him.  Which is not to say that I won't play the next game.  I will.  Regardless of there being a new protagonist in the next DA game, I still want to see how the whole thing continues/ends.

[CapricornSun]

Art break. 

 

Modern AU Solas admiring Lavellan's muscles.

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Source: http://fadetonguedon...a-similar-shirt

 

 

Solas reveals that he is Fen'Harel to Lavellan while wearing a rather... interesting attire. ^__^;

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Source: http://trulynocturna...st/135599137399

 

 

Gorgeous artwork of Solas and Lavellan cuddling in bed. (NSFW for nudity.)

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Source: http://heathwind-blo...r-evilbunnyking

 

 

Lavellan and Solas taking a nap by the fire.

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Source: http://neboou.tumblr...l-evilbunnyking

 

 

Sketch of Solas.

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Source: http://dearzelly.tum...on-thehelsabots

 

 

Adorable DA:I / Zootopia crossover!

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Source: http://tuherrus.tumb...tle-out-of-hand

 

[Amriah]

Heyo I don't really... post here often but uh I am writing a Solavellan/Lavellan centric longfic and wanted to share, if that's okay? It's still ongoing and I haven't gotten too far into the Solavellan yet but yeah. It's on Tumblr and AO3.

 

*Awkwardly waves and hides*

[Elessara]

Heyo I don't really... post here often but uh I am writing a Solavellan/Lavellan centric longfic and wanted to share, if that's okay? It's still ongoing and I haven't gotten too far into the Solavellan yet but yeah. It's on Tumblr and AO3.

 

*Awkwardly waves and hides*

 

It's always okay to share your works here.  

[Brass_Buckles]

OK, so I'm about to start work on Chapter 2 of my current fic, days after I meant to (I've been super tired lately...) and in the meantime I had a thought about the codex entry about the "Sinner."

 

Let me link you to a couple codex entries here...

 

Ancient Elven Writing (The Sinner)

 

Codex Entry:  Bear (Dragon Age: Inquisition)

 

Something made me remember that story about the foxes having wings.

 

And then I thought about the "Sinner" taking the "form of the divine."

 

Well, what we know about foxes is that they are often portrayed in various fables, religious beliefs, etc. as being crafty.  They're considered a trickster spirit or a trickster god.

 

There's more to this too...

 

We know Ghilan'ain created many different species, but according to her original codex entry, Andruil may have also been responsible for creating some beasts of the wild.   June's weaponcrafts were to hunt Andruil's gifts... not Ghilan'ain's.

 

Now, I'm not suggesting that Andruil and Ghilan'ain are one and the same--not in the least.  What I'm wondering is if the Dalish may have gotten the two muddled.  There's been a lot of suggestion that they were connected.  Or else, Ghilan'ain was actually doing some of the same things Andruil did, and she did them better.  Or more horrifically as the case may be...  Imitation is said to be the sincerest form of flattery.

 

So what am I getting at?

 

Okay, I think there was more than one "sinner," and the "sinners" are the foxes referred to in the bear codex entry.  Probably someone else has already made this connection pages and pages back.  Remember that the sinner belonged to Dirthamen.  He said, however, that he took wings at Ghilan'ain's urging, while hoping Mythal would protect him.

 

So it sounds like what happened is either Ghilan'ain or Andruil (again, we don't know if maybe the Dalish got the two mixed up) sold this "sinner" knowledge.  He may have hoped for mercy from Mythal because he was, after all, acting on the wishes of a god.

 

Either way, it is apparent that the "foxes," the "birds," and the "bear" are allegorical.  We know who the foxes were--assuming there was more than one fox.  So who are our wealthy birds, and who are our steadfast bears?

 

The sinner being a fox means he probably was not Solas, who is a wolf, and whose spirit may well be a greater pride demon.

 

More importantly, we know "the sinner" was caught, but the Bear codex indicates there's more than one fox who took wings.  It's likely that our Sinner fox was one of the Forbidden Ones or Forgotten Ones, or was given to the Formless One.  What became of the other foxes?  Were they caught?

 

Edit:

 

It appears to me that whoever the sinner was (and again, it seems there might have been more of these allegorical foxes)... Ghilan'ain encouraged him to sell Dirthamen's knowledge to Andruil.  He likely presumed that because he acted on the urging of an Evanuris, Mythal would protect him.  She did not.

 

This begs the question of what knowledge he possessed that Andruil and Ghilan'ain wanted so badly, and whether they thought he might be "god" material himself.

 

Honestly?

 

I can see motivation for Dirthamen having betrayed, or helped to betray, the rest of the Evanuris--especially if he and Falon'din had shared or connected spirits/souls.  But Mythal treated him fairly.  Which is kind of scary considering the sinner "belonged" to him... as in as a possession, a slave.  There's a lot of hints in the art within the game that Dirthamen had to do with this massive betrayal of Mythal, and if he did I'm sure it had to do with how Falon'din was dealt with after his deadly efforts to acquire further power and followers (it sounds like he may have been up to blood magic, but this is not certain).

 

Just food for thought...

 

Edited again for a correction:  The "Bear" codex entry is from Origins.

 

Which means this is something the writers had planned storywise for a very long time.

[Arshes Nei]

I'm quite enjoying the debate over dual protag/no inky/only inky and so on. It raises the question of what could be done story-wise and this is absolutely awesome. The only thing I have really to add to that is considering the ending of Trespasser, how it was handled, story-wise they made it so that Inky would need to come back in some capacity in order to make sense. Plus, as it has been mentioned, regardless of hate/friend/love the Inquisitor has a personal stake in handling Solas and this makes for the added umph in a story.

 

Now on that note, storyteller me wants Inky back ONLY for dealing with Solas. I actually have a rather unpopular opinion when it comes to the Inquisitor (*Cue the stone throwing*), I found them bland . Taking Canon only, nothing else, there was no connection to the character. He/she was very diplomatic/good/dry for me. It was only through the companion dialogue interactions that I got anything personality-wise and even that was not much (Sorry Inky did get some personality with Nug King and the Bear pun). Companions were Goddamn awesome and romance? They carried the romance scenes 100% for me. Inky was more of a tag-along. The Solas romance was hands down my favorite because-feelz-but if I could, I would have my Warden/Purple!Hawke/(maybe new protag? depends if they can be boss) be his love interest instead. I don't know, I have the unpopular opinion that he deserves someone much cooler

[Elessara]

I'm quite enjoying the debate over dual protag/no inky/only inky and so on. It raises the question of what could be done story-wise and this is absolutely awesome. The only thing I have really to add to that is considering the ending of Trespasser, how it was handled, story-wise they made it so that Inky would need to come back in some capacity in order to make sense. Plus, as it has been mentioned, regardless of hate/friend/love the Inquisitor has a personal stake in handling Solas and this makes for the added umph in a story.

 

Now on that note, storyteller me wants Inky back ONLY for dealing with Solas. I actually have a rather unpopular opinion when it comes to the Inquisitor (*Cue the stone throwing*), I found them bland . Taking Canon only, nothing else, there was no connection to the character. He/she was very diplomatic/good/dry for me. It was only through the companion dialogue interactions that I got anything personality-wise and even that was not much (Sorry Inky did get some personality with Nug King and the Bear pun). Companions were Goddamn awesome and romance? They carried the romance scenes 100% for me. Inky was more of a tag-along. The Solas romance was hands down my favorite because-feelz-but if I could, I would have my Warden/Purple!Hawke/(maybe new protag? depends if they can be boss) be his love interest instead. I don't know, I have the unpopular opinion that he deserves someone much cooler

 

To be honest, I liked the personality thing BioWare did for Hawke.  The personality allowed for more interaction in party banter and different reactions to cutscenes.  It made Hawke feel more like a person.  They did give the Inquisitor a wider range of emotional responses in dialogue (usually) but outside of that it would have been nice for the Inquisitor to have more banter with the party as Hawke did.  And the Warden?  Honestly the Warden was the blandest of the bunch.  The Inquisitor is somewhere between the two.

 

Warden:  Personality almost entirely dependent on the player.  Greater variety in the dialogue options but the tone had to be entirely heard in your head.  Facial expressions were few.  I like to refer to the warden as Stoneface.

Hawke:  Three distinct personalities that influenced random dialogue in cutscenes and party banter.  Not much projection required but less control over how Hawke responded to situations.

Inquisitor:  Personality was there in dialogue options but nothing set by the game.  More projection required than Hawke but less than for the Warden.

 

Of the three, I preferred the Inquisitor.  And of course, this is all my opinion.  It's a hard line for the writers to walk.  How much is too much or not enough?

[Arshes Nei]

Warden:  Personality almost entirely dependent on the player.  Greater variety in the dialogue options but the tone had to be entirely heard in your head.  Facial expressions were few.  I like to refer to the warden as Stoneface.

Hawke:  Three distinct personalities that influenced random dialogue in cutscenes and party banter.  Not much projection required but less control over how Hawke responded to situations.

Inquisitor:  Personality was there in dialogue options but nothing set by the game.  More projection required than Hawke but less than for the Warden.

 

lol stoneface is actually a pretty good description. I agree with these points accept for the Inquisitor. The personalities for Hawke were great and you could connect with your PC. Warden, well yes the facial expressions were blah but we can't expect much since it was years ago. Put DAI quality into DA then Warden is only going to blow Inquisitor out of the water more. I loved my PC look for Inquisitor, the creation was great but when it came down to dialogue, even angry/red options were diplomatic and didn't have any bite/punch. This is why Inquisitor fell short for me. Not because of the dialogue wheel but the fact that I couldn't have a snarky or angry or hell anything that wasn't 'I'm displeased but polite about it'

that is really the only way I can describe it lol.

 

Edit: Politician! Inquisitor is too much like a politician. This is what comes to mind when I think of every single thing out of their mouth lol. Trespasser is the only real show of emotion actually

Modifié par Arshes Nei, 20 mars 2016 - 03:17 .

[Elessara]

lol stoneface is actually a pretty good description. I agree with these points accept for the Inquisitor. The personalities for Hawke were great and you could connect with your PC. Warden, well yes the facial expressions were blah but we can't expect much since it was years ago. Put DAI quality into DA then Warden is only going to blow Inquisitor out of the water more. I loved my PC look for Inquisitor, the creation was great but when it came down to dialogue, even angry/red options were diplomatic and didn't have any bite/punch. This is why Inquisitor fell short for me. Not because of the dialogue wheel but the fact that I couldn't have a snarky or angry or hell anything that wasn't 'I'm displeased but polite about it'

that is really the only way I can describe it lol.

 

Edit: Politician! Inquisitor is too much like a politician. This is what comes to mind when I think of every single thing out of their mouth lol. Trespasser is the only real show of emotion actually

 

Well, except put DAO into DAI quality and they'd have a voice actor for the Warden ... what VA would they use?  Would that VA do a good job?  And of course they would cut down on the number of responses the Warden would have.  There's really no way to compare DAO in that aspect.

 

Which VA did you prefer?

 

Edit to add:  I meant, which VA did you prefer for your Inquisitor in DAI.

[Brass_Buckles]

I want the Inquisitor to be back at least to deal with Solas, but... it's been discussed before so much that I don't think anything can be said about it that hasn't already been said.  I don't think we'll get the Inquisitor as a playable protagonist.  And I think that's a complete shame since it won't be the same to deal with the Solas and Inquisitor arc thirdhand.  It doesn't matter if you were friends or if you were low approval... that's a personal situation and it needed to be dealt with by the Inquisitor, not someone new.

 

But maybe it'll become personal to them too?

 

I really don't know.

 

In any case... My new fic has updated with chapter 2, if anyone would like to read it.  I'm debating taking a break for the night or starting in on Chapter 3.

[Arshes Nei]

Well, except put DAO into DAI quality and they'd have a voice actor for the Warden ... what VA would they use?  Would that VA do a good job?  And of course they would cut down on the number of responses the Warden would have.  There's really no way to compare DAO in that aspect.

 

Which VA did you prefer?

 

Edit to add:  I meant, which VA did you prefer for your Inquisitor in DAI.

True in that regard. More lines means more money/time. Still it wasn't delivery that was the problem, it was what came out of the Inquisitor's mouth. The lines, no matter who says them, the words don't have anything other than diplomat to them. (at least to me.)

 

Alix Regan for Elves/Humans and Summalee for Dwarves/Qunari. Idk those voices just seemed to fit the most for those races. I know people swear the other way around is better and vise versa. 

[midnight tea]

Well, except put DAO into DAI quality and they'd have a voice actor for the Warden ... what VA would they use?  Would that VA do a good job?  And of course they would cut down on the number of responses the Warden would have.  There's really no way to compare DAO in that aspect.

 

Actually, I paid special attention to Warden's dialogue when I first played, since I heard stories about HoF's wider personality spectrum... and I've noticed no significantly bigger numbers of responses. Most of the time there were 3 or 4, with similar personality flavors we have in Inquisition (good/diplomatic, witty/snarky/intelligent, aggressive/grouchy/to-the-point - or happy/sad/angry/confused at times) and even if they've had additional response or two at times, quite a few NPCs ended up responding the same way they did to other dialogue options.

 

The one thing I've noted - alongside quite a few other people on this forum, after I mentioned it on other threads - is that investigative options and special responses are oftentimes cobbled together, making it seem as if they have more responses or dialogue options. Truth is however that the major difference between Inquisitor and Warden appears to be that DAI dialogue wheel is simply more organized.

[Elessara]

Actually, I paid special attention to Warden's dialogue when I first played, since I heard stories about HoF's wider personality spectrum... and I've noticed no significantly bigger numbers of responses. Most of the time there were 3 or 4, with similar personality flavors we have in Inquisition (good/diplomatic, witty/snarky/intelligent, aggressive/grouchy/to-the-point - or happy/sad/angry/confused at times) and even if they've had additional response or two at times, quite a few NPCs ended up responding the same way they did to other dialogue options.

 

The one thing I've noted - alongside quite a few other people on this forum, after I mentioned it on other threads - is that investigative options and special responses are oftentimes cobbled together, making it seem as if they have more responses or dialogue options. Truth is however that the major difference between Inquisitor and Warden appears to be that DAI dialogue wheel is simply more organized.

 

Good point.  It's been awhile since I've played DAO.  I guess maybe it feels a little different because what your character is "saying" is spelled out exactly instead of having a paraphrase that kinda sorta lets you know the content of what you character is going to say.

 

And I did notice that NPCs tended to respond the same to different options.

[keepingitloki]

Hey guys, I've never really posted here as I've always been too shy, but I may have been lurking here for a lonnng while... Anyway I recently watched an Interview with Patrick Weekes and he mentioned something about rewatching the post-credit scene with Solas and Flemeth then comparing it Solas and the Inquisitor in Trespasser. I recently completed a playthrough where I romanced Solas.....again *cries* and I noticed that with a romanced Inquisitor before he goes to kiss her he does that glowy eyes thing kind of like the same he did in the post credit scene? He doesn't do this when taking the mark with a friendly/rivaled Inquisitor I don't think, And I was just wondering if you guys had any thoughts about this or noticed it? Maybe it means nothing but I found it interesting and can't stop thinking about it. Like did he do something that's maybe going to save her? 

[dawnstone]

Somebody did what Patrick suggested with watching both endings together:

 

https://twitter.com/...580425979076609

 

hmmmm.... What are u doin', Mythal?

[Addictress]

Somebody did what Patrick suggested with watching both endings together:

 

https://twitter.com/...580425979076609

 

hmmmm.... What are u doin', Mythal?

so wait, what are you guys implying? What is the suggestion?

 

That... that he was truly in some romantic situation with Mythal? Or something?

[Addictress]

Took some screencaps of Solas in the Descent DLC today

http://addictress.tu...ans-ʖ-i-used-to

[CapricornSun]

Hey guys, I've never really posted here as I've always been too shy, but I may have been lurking here for a lonnng while... Anyway I recently watched an Interview with Patrick Weekes and he mentioned something about rewatching the post-credit scene with Solas and Flemeth then comparing it Solas and the Inquisitor in Trespasser. I recently completed a playthrough where I romanced Solas.....again *cries* and I noticed that with a romanced Inquisitor before he goes to kiss her he does that glowy eyes thing kind of like the same he did in the post credit scene? He doesn't do this when taking the mark with a friendly/rivaled Inquisitor I don't think, And I was just wondering if you guys had any thoughts about this or noticed it? Maybe it means nothing but I found it interesting and can't stop thinking about it. Like did he do something that's maybe going to save her? 

 

Somebody did what Patrick suggested with watching both endings together:

 

https://twitter.com/...580425979076609

 

hmmmm.... What are u doin', Mythal?

 

Someone on Tumblr did a gif comparison of the two scenes...

 

Source: http://smalllady.tum...st/141349684903

 

 

My mind is blown... What does this meeaann? 

[Brass_Buckles]

so wait, what are you guys implying? What is the suggestion?

 

That... that he was truly in some romantic situation with Mythal? Or something?

 

It's probably just that I'm too tired to grasp what they're trying to get at... but I don't really get it either?

 

Maybe if someone had the 2 videos playing side by side on YouTube?

 

All I'm seeing is a similarity between "Solas enters stage left" and "Inquisitor enters stage left."  Solas and Mythal are in the same relative spaces on the screen.

 

Other than that... I don't know?  Solas takes Mythal's power, and dispels yours.

 

Maybe the implication is Solas is the Inquisitor's Mythal, somehow?  Bleh, that doesn't make sense.  But if it were the case then it would mean we're going to kill Solas and steal his power with the Inquisitor (who's no longer "us" in the next game)...

 

I'm sure I'm missing whatever it is people are seeing though.  100% sure.  Could someone enlighten me?

 

Edit:  Okay, someone showed what's up.

 

Annnd, I don't get it, still.  Either it implies that Solas is basically becoming Mythal thanks to taking her power (or a geas) or that Solas is "our" Mythal.

 

I have no idea what it means.

 

If Mythal slipped some of her "self" into Solas, the Solas we knew and loved is already gone and he doesn't even know it.  That's... terribly sad.  And also terribly dangerous.

 

If Solas is under a geas, then he has been this whole time and it's probably what caused him to end the world in the first place, and why he's out to do it a second time.  This actually, to me, makes more sense... that he's acting under Mythal's will without even being aware of it.  We know he once had her vallaslin.  He warned us about the Well.

 

What's interesting is the relative reversal of roles.  If we're in the Solas role in Trespasser... then we should be the one stealing power.  But we're not.  Solas takes our Inquisitor's hand.  If that particular action has any weight in how the endings are alike... we should be very worried for Solas, because it means Solas took nothing and Mythal took everything.

 

And again... that would be sad.  It would explain a lot, but it would be terribly sad.

 

Except Solas still has feelings for the Inquisitor, and still seems to be Solas, or believes he is.

 

I... really don't know what this means.  It's not mindblowing to me, simply because I don't know what it means.  And the bad thing is we aren't going to know for another few years, most likely.

 

Edited to add:  I'm just going to leave for the night with the reminder that I've repeatedly said I don't think Mythal is up to any good.  She's been plotting some kind of revenge for way, way too long.  If she's influencing Solas somehow... geas, or taking over his body, or whatever?  Then not only has she likely planned to do so for a very long time, but whatever Solas is up to plays right into her plans.  And we know she wants a "reckoning" on a massive scale.  That... cannot be good.

 

Conversely, Solas is the Inquisitor's Mythal.  This might make sense in that he pushed us into power, but the relationship isn't necessarily the same.  We could be friendly, romantic, or absolutely detest him.  I know his relationship with Mythal was complicated, but it seems to have been mostly positive.  If Solas is our Mythal, though, it probably means we will have to kill him and steal his power at some point... which is also an ugly situation.

 

Another, simpler possibility is just that Solas neutralizes the Inquisitor similarly to how he neutralizes Mythal.

 

Yet another possibility is there's been more than a little bit of Mythal present in Solas all along.  She's the "All-Mother."  Perhaps she's shaped Solas more than we are aware.

 

... Really it's clear as mud.  And again, it's going to be years before we know.  I'm just... not going to worry about it.  There's simply not enough evidence right now to come to any conclusion at all.