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[midnight tea]

 

I'll just go back to this...

 

Probably nothing? The first two are basic cinematography shots - when new character enters scene, have a shot of present characters turning around, and then a shot of the new character entering proper. It's just an over-the-shoulder shot followed by a wide shot, with both adhering to rule-of-thirds. You could probably find countless examples of that exact sequence across cinema.

 

And the third's only similar in that they're both displays of affection. They're not even the same display of affection, or shot similarly, or anything. And it doesn't even happen unless you romance him.

 

I think if it meant absolutely nothing, the lead writer wouldn't be telling us, specifically, to re-watch the scenes alongside one another and see what resonates. 

 

Mr. Weekes is a troll, but he's not 100% troll. There were things he told in interviews that actually are good tips, like paying attention to banter Solas initiates; he was also the one that told fandom that Solas wanted to tell Lavellan the truth at first.

 

Plus, I'd probably dismiss it more if I didn't notice much earlier that DAI actually uses a lot of visual cues and non-verbal language, especially in its cutscenes.

 

In other words, this is not just mere coincidence, same way the shadow that hides half of Solas' face in Trespasser isn't a coincidence. 

 

...Though I agree that the last screenshot is kind of forced. It's not as close an analogue as the first two, plus it hinges on Solas being romanced, while other two do not.

 

 

While I'm undecided on the Old Gods connection to anything, I'm leaning towards the whispers that directed the Magisters to the Golden City not being from the giant dragons sleeping underground. The Pillars of the Earth theory, that by the nature of their existence, the Old Gods are holding something up or back, makes sense to me. So I could see the Black City Assault as a very long-term plan to bust open something in the Fade by destroying the Pillars. *shrug*

 

Aren't 'pillars of the earth' established to be Titans?

 

In fact, the Whispers in Red Lyrium we can find in the Fade... many people theorize those whispers are from Evanuris, but I'd say that they may as well be whispers of Titans.

[In Exile]

That's what I think, too. But given that there's no real reason for the Old Gods to want into the Fade if they're trapped underground, something else is going on - what that something else is, I'm not too sure. Either the Old Gods are the Forgotten Ones, and wanted into the Fade to kill the Evanuris (And for some reason neglected to tell this to their priests.) The Old Gods are the Forgotten Ones, but never had anything to do with Tevinter - the Magisters simply assumed the gods speaking to them in dreams (Who were probably the Evanuris trying to get out.) were those big dragons running around. Or the Forgotten Ones are something else entirely and the Old Gods are the physical manifestations of the Evanuris or... some such magical non-sense.

 

I don't necessarily believe the "The Evanuris - and not the Forgotten Ones - are actually the Old Gods" theory to be true, but it is a theory, and it would explain their desire to get into the Fade.

 

Remember, Solas split things in "two" when he raised the Veil. The fact that the Forgotten Ones (or the Evanuris) have their physical form trapped in reality (on "Earth" or the "Unchanging World") does not mean that their "souls" are in the same place. So the Old Gods may have gotten a bunch of zealots together to get them out. As to why they wanted to release the Blight, well, we know that death in a mass scale shatters the Veil. What if the plan was simply to break it by creating so much death on Thedas that the whole thing collapsed on itself? 

[CapricornSun]

Okay, first I just wanted to share you guys this sort of pinup-style art I finished last night of Solas wearing furs. (NSFW-ish?)

 

Tan fur version:

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Black fur version:

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Tumblr link: http://sunny-arts.tu...nspired-by-this

DeviantArt link: Tan fur version | Black fur version

 

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And now, back to your regular art post.

 

Adorable blushy Solas and Lavellan by limpstella.

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Source: http://limpstella.tu...for-marnaeileen

 

 

Lovely art of best friends Solas and Freya Lavellan.

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Source: http://freyalavellan...od-looks-and-my

 

 

Inquisitor!Solas and Fen'Harel!Lavellan at Crestwood in this role reversal AU.

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Source: http://vladimirka.tu...hearts-internal

 

 

Post-Trespasser: Lavellan will save Solas but first, she has important matters to attend to. Based on this Skyrim post.

(I love that she has a picture of Solas next to her bed. xD)

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Source: http://eggsquisite-d...t-now-somewhere

 

 

Solas and Lavellan standing back to back.

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Source: http://annajiejie.tu...i-am-fond-of-it

 

 

Gorgeous art of Solas done as an anatomy/value study. Oooooh! 

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Source: http://slayersangel....e-study-ツ-ref-x

 

 

Cyborg!Solas done as part of the Improvement Challenge using a Character Generator, by umabbas.

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Source: http://umabbas.tumbl...-character-from

 

 

Solas in feather pauldrons.

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Source: http://amskrayy.tumb...draw-an-egghead

 

 

Burden. Sad Solas.

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Source: http://neqquu.tumblr...77650419/burden

 

 

"An insult I took as a badge of pride." Young, concept!Solas.

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Source: http://projectnelm.t...-badge-of-pride

 

 

Sassy Nerd Clique. Modern AU Dorian, Vivienne, and Solas.

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Source: http://fatalmirage.t...based-on-this-x

 

 

Lavellan, Solas, Sera, and artist's OC drawn for the Draw The Squad meme.

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Source: http://noodlesforner...na-inquisiturnt

 

[Brass_Buckles]

Vir Arla'Nehn updated with Chapter 3 if anyone's reading it.

 

Also, I'm going to agree with Tea on this one.  Weekes pointed it out because it means something, even if we're not clear on what.  It's also true that when the game used cutscenes (instead of zoomed out dialogue), the animation team worked overtime to use facial expressions etc. to tell us what's going on and what people really mean.  So yeah, I'd say it's important.  The parallels are certainly significant.

 

But it's kind of frustrating to me, and I don't want to spend another night brainstorming over what it might mean.  Why?

 

Because we're probably not going to know anything until around 2019 when the next game is likely to be out and we have actually played it.  I think it's pretty cruel to try to stir up conversation about what it means now, when it's going to be so long before we can actually know.  Kudos to the writers and animators, but it's difficult to stay excited for literally years.

 

Why do I say 2019?  Well... MEA is slated for early 2017 (but could be delayed; we know how that goes).  Although DAI was out in 2014 (late 2014), and thus we'd normally expect DA4 to be out around the end of 2017, it has yet to be announced.  We also know there's at least one new IP being worked on that is probably close to its announce date.  So I'm guessing we will have the new IP out in 2018 or thereabouts, before we get the next Dragon Age.

 

The very earliest we can expect the next game is probably early 2018, seeing as we haven't even gotten a statement saying that there'll actually be a DA4 yet.  Usually these things get announced at least around a year ahead of time.  If they announced it six months or so beforehand, I'd be surprised.  They will want at least six months between Mass Effect Andromeda and whatever game they release after it--and they will also avoid releasing a new game right at the same time they release new DLC for a game that is already released.

 

In other words, we have a long wait ahead of us to know what's going on with this.  We can get worked up over it and talk it to death, but we'll be no closer to knowing what's going on than we were before.

 

Am I the only one who's feeling this way?

[TheyCallMeBunny]

Ugh, I've managed to become infected again, and thus I've gotten all my symptoms back.  The discomfort is making it hard for me to sleep, but the very few hours I did sleep I had a rather funny dream:

 

I dreamt that Bioware had hired me as a writer's assistant (mostly for lulz, they were well aware I really didn't have any qualifications) and they made me do some really strange things to prove that I "belonged" with them. What I remember most clearly from the dream though is sitting in a room where they had all the important plot points pinned on the wall, and I was so torn between looking at the papers on Solas and trying not to be suspiciously obvious about my interest.  I also recall wishing I could tell everyone how close I was to knowing! Sadly I never did get a look at those papers, and considering that my sleeping brain did manage to deduce that Solas was an Elven god when I first played DA:I (although I later dismissed the idea as being stupid) I'm curious what possible lead I might have stored somewhere deep inside my brain. Ah well, que sera, sera I guess! 

[Caddius]

 

 

I'll just go back to this...

 

 

I think if it meant absolutely nothing, the lead writer wouldn't be telling us, specifically, to re-watch the scenes alongside one another and see what resonates. 

 

Mr. Weekes a troll, but he's not 100% troll. There were things he told in interviews that actually are good tips, like paying attention to banter Solas initiates; he was also the one that told fandom that Solas wanted to tell Lavellan the truth at first.

 

Plus, I'd probably dismiss it more if I didn't notice much earlier that DAI actually uses a lot of visual cues and non-verbal language, especially in its cutscenes.

 

In other words, this is not just mere coincidence, same way the shadow that hides half of Solas' face in Trespasser isn't a coincidence. 

 

...Though I agree that the last screenshot is kind of forced. It's not as close an analogue as the first two, plus it hinges on Solas being romanced, while other two do not.

 

 

 

Aren't 'pillars of the earth' established to be Titans?

 

In fact, the Whispers in Red Lyrium we can find in the Fade... many people theorize those whispers are from Evanuris, but I'd say that they may as well be whispers of Titans.

 

I should have been more specific. I was referring to the theory back before we knew more about the Titans, that made a correlation between the idea of the Old Gods being an anchor for some kind of spell or prison and the mention of 'pillars of the earth'. 

The Red Lyrium whispers would seem to be Evanuris if it wasn't for the use of 'sundered', which calls to mind the Codex entries about the Profane eating tainted Titan blood in the Primeval Thaig.

[Elessara]

I should have been more specific. I was referring to the theory back before we knew more about the Titans, that made a correlation between the idea of the Old Gods being an anchor for some kind of spell or prison and the mention of 'pillars of the earth'. 

The Red Lyrium whispers would seem to be Evanuris if it wasn't for the use of 'sundered', which calls to mind the Codex entries about the Profane eating tainted Titan blood in the Primeval Thaig.

 

I would agree except the Whispers also state they "have found the dreams again" and I'm not sure the Titans have anything to do with dreams?  Especially as dwarves can't dream unless under extraordinary circumstances.  The Titans and dwarves seem more tied to the physical realm whilst the elves seem more attuned to the Fade with humans and qunari somewhere in between.

[Caddius]

I would agree except the Whispers also state they "have found the dreams again" and I'm not sure the Titans have anything to do with dreams?  Especially as dwarves can't dream unless under extraordinary circumstances.  The Titans and dwarves seem more tied to the physical realm whilst the elves seem more attuned to the Fade with humans and qunari somewhere in between.

Oh, poo. 

Sundered and polluted almost suggest Titans, dreams suggests Evanuris or something connected to the Fade...hmm. While the Titans seem to be asleep, they don't seem all that connected to the Fade. They're that great 'other', grounded reality, that Cole mentions. Now I just don't know. 

[Ellawynn]

 

I think if it meant absolutely nothing, the lead writer wouldn't be telling us, specifically, to re-watch the scenes alongside one another and see what resonates. 

 

Mr. Weekes is a troll, but he's not 100% troll. There were things he told in interviews that actually are good tips, like paying attention to banter Solas initiates; he was also the one that told fandom that Solas wanted to tell Lavellan the truth at first.

 

Plus, I'd probably dismiss it more if I didn't notice much earlier that DAI actually uses a lot of visual cues and non-verbal language, especially in its cutscenes.

 

In other words, this is not just mere coincidence, same way the shadow that hides half of Solas' face in Trespasser isn't a coincidence. 

 

...Though I agree that the last screenshot is kind of forced. It's not as close an analogue as the first two, plus it hinges on Solas being romanced, while other two do not.

 

*Shrug* Like I said, if that's the resonance we're looking for, it's thin at best. You can interpret that statement as being on the people who found it... or the person who put it there. 

 

 

Am I the only one who's feeling this way?

 

Maybe? To be honest though, I'm getting increasingly suspicious of the new IP. It was announced as existing- jeez, a long time ago, wasn't it? Like, ME3-long ago? I remember hearing about it pre-Inquisition, at least. And we've gotten such scant information on it since - not to mention Gaider left, even though he was just put in charge of writing it. Seems bizarre to shuffle a lead writer from one project to another, only for them to leave anyway... unless that project's not happening anymore.

 

Hey, it happened with Shadow Realms. They put a trailer out and everything for Shadow Realms, and then just up and cancelled it.

 

It's probably too early to be jumping to conclusions like that. And I don't want it to be cancelled, because it'd be interesting to see BioWare tackle something new. But it's also like... have they really told us anything about it?

[NightSymphony]

Art

 

Beautiful Solas

http://kailerine.dev...Solas-598007386

 

Squad Golas (I just love this typo so I left it )

http://kaibacrop.dev...Goals-598010356

 

Burden

http://neqquu.devian...urden-597797183

 

 

Modern Fenris on a bus listening to headphones

http://green-feline....enris-598027388

[midnight tea]

*Shrug* Like I said, if that's the resonance we're looking for, it's thin at best. You can interpret that statement as being on the people who found it... or the person who put it there. 

 

Well LOL, they can't reveal anything more substantial - not when the Trespasser scene itself has Sola salmost shout "Spoilers!" at us. Weekes even sounds very guarded when Biofan asks about revealing something more about the scene. As if even bringing attention to that particular scene resonance is sort of pushing it.

 

 

 

Maybe? To be honest though, I'm getting increasingly suspicious of the new IP. It was announced as existing- jeez, a long time ago, wasn't it? Like, ME3-long ago? I remember hearing about it pre-Inquisition, at least. And we've gotten such scant information on it since - not to mention Gaider left, even though he was just put in charge of writing it. Seems bizarre to shuffle a lead writer from one project to another, only for them to leave anyway... unless that project's not happening anymore.

 

Hey, it happened with Shadow Realms. They put a trailer out and everything for Shadow Realms, and then just up and cancelled it.

 

It's probably too early to be jumping to conclusions like that. And I don't want it to be cancelled, because it'd be interesting to see BioWare tackle something new. But it's also like... have they really told us anything about it

 

Judging from tweets from devs (you can read those on Secret IP Twitter thread: http://forum.bioware...-thread/page-29 ) they're actually not far away from officially announcing something. They keep mentioning testing game builds, finishing work, crunch time and so on - recently there was even a photo from the secret IP dev team playing the game. And then there's this:

 

http://www.pcgamer.c...=buffer-pcgamer

 

Also - AFAIK, Gaider was put in charge of writing it long before he announced that he leaves DA team, nevermind leaving BW. I wouldn't be surprised if he was on the project for at least 2 years, if not more.

[CapricornSun]

Art post:

 

Awesome commission artwork of modern AU Detective Lavellan

and researcher/archeologist Solas from the fic Law and Order: Inquisition.

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Source: http://limpstella.tu...f-her-detective

 

 

Pretty art of Lavellan and the Dread Wolf.

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Source: http://impish-kay.tu...-as-a-christmas

 

 

Adorable WIP of Solas kissing Lavellan's forehead.

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Source: http://theresa-draws...g-this-at-330am

 

 

Lovely traditional artwork of Solas, Lavellan, and the Dread Wolf.

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Source: http://simbelmine.tu...ank-you-azahara

 

 

Beautiful environment practice using Crestwood and a Solavellan heartbreak scene. ; v ;

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Source: http://fishslappping...onment-practice

 

 

Solas and Lavellan have been working nonstop and are so tired. (Also starring Dorian. )

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Source: http://solavellangar...p-they-pass-out

 

 

"An insult I took as a badge of pride." Young, concept!Solas.

It's a revised version of the previous one I shared, only his hair is not in dreads on this one.

(Judging from the artist's tags on this one and the fact that said artist deleted the previous version, I think people took offense to the old version.)

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Source: http://projectnelm.t...-badge-of-pride

 

 

Gorgeous digital work practice of Solas.

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Source: http://unhealthynpco...-chalk-on-black

 

 

'Mercy for the elves'. Wow!

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Source: http://dancinfox.tum...y-for-the-elves

 

[Ellawynn]

Well LOL, they can't reveal anything more substantial - not when the Trespasser scene itself has Sola salmost shout "Spoilers!" at us. Weekes even sounds very guarded when Biofan asks about revealing something more about the scene. As if even bringing attention to that particular scene resonance is sort of pushing it.

 

 

 

Judging from tweets from devs (you can read those on Secret IP Twitter thread: http://forum.bioware...-thread/page-29 ) they're actually not far away from officially announcing something. They keep mentioning testing game builds, finishing work, crunch time and so on - recently there was even a photo from the secret IP dev team playing the game. And then there's this:

 

http://www.pcgamer.c...=buffer-pcgamer

 

Also - AFAIK, Gaider was put in charge of writing it long before he announced that he leaves DA team, nevermind leaving BW. I wouldn't be surprised if he was on the project for at least 2 years, if not more.

 

He can't reveal anything, but he didn't have to say anything either. Pointing out a (currently) meaningless detail and acting like it's an answer's just annoying.

 

No, Gaider was put on the new project back in March. And then he leaves about a year after. S'weird. And combined with the other writers and a developer leaving (Although granted, they were all on Andromeda) in the span of so many months, it just seems like something's up. 

 

I guess it's obviously not the new IP falling through. But still... 

[Brass_Buckles]

Well LOL, they can't reveal anything more substantial - not when the Trespasser scene itself has Sola salmost shout "Spoilers!" at us. Weekes even sounds very guarded when Biofan asks about revealing something more about the scene. As if even bringing attention to that particular scene resonance is sort of pushing it.

 

 

 

Judging from tweets from devs (you can read those on Secret IP Twitter thread: http://forum.bioware...-thread/page-29 ) they're actually not far away from officially announcing something. They keep mentioning testing game builds, finishing work, crunch time and so on - recently there was even a photo from the secret IP dev team playing the game. And then there's this:

 

http://www.pcgamer.c...=buffer-pcgamer

 

Also - AFAIK, Gaider was put in charge of writing it long before he announced that he leaves DA team, nevermind leaving BW. I wouldn't be surprised if he was on the project for at least 2 years, if not more.

 

Hm.  So, I'm thinking, in that case:  MEA release early next year (it was delayed from holiday this year--and it could be delayed again); new IP announced sometime mid- to late this year, and out mid- to late 2017.  That still pushes DA4 to at least 2018, assuming it's announced sometime between the middle of this year and the end of next year.  Four years is a good long while for game development these days.  Not really long at all considering all that has to go into AAA titles, of course.  But it's still a very long wait for us to be discussing the same things... over and over.

 

So I hope there are some novels that will shed new light on it, and in the meantime maybe I'll start buying the comics or something, I dunno.  There might be more Solas-related goodness to be found...

[ladyiolanthe]

Hm.  So, I'm thinking, in that case:  MEA release early next year (it was delayed from holiday this year--and it could be delayed again); new IP announced sometime mid- to late this year, and out mid- to late 2017.  That still pushes DA4 to at least 2018, assuming it's announced sometime between the middle of this year and the end of next year.  Four years is a good long while for game development these days.  Not really long at all considering all that has to go into AAA titles, of course.  But it's still a very long wait for us to be discussing the same things... over and over.

 

So I hope there are some novels that will shed new light on it, and in the meantime maybe I'll start buying the comics or something, I dunno.  There might be more Solas-related goodness to be found...

 

No Solas in the comics yet, but the mage killer protagonists may yet meet him, I suppose. We're only four installments in to their story, so far, and they have met some of our friends from the game.

[midnight tea]

Hm.  So, I'm thinking, in that case:  MEA release early next year (it was delayed from holiday this year--and it could be delayed again); new IP announced sometime mid- to late this year, and out mid- to late 2017.  That still pushes DA4 to at least 2018, assuming it's announced sometime between the middle of this year and the end of next year.  Four years is a good long while for game development these days.  Not really long at all considering all that has to go into AAA titles, of course.  But it's still a very long wait for us to be discussing the same things... over and over.

 

So I hope there are some novels that will shed new light on it, and in the meantime maybe I'll start buying the comics or something, I dunno.  There might be more Solas-related goodness to be found...

 

 

Perhaps we should take it as a good sign that, almost at the beginning of Interview, when Weekes says that he can't say what they're working on right now, but he hopes that people are interested in MEA and doesn't mention secret IP.

 

It may mean completely nothing - he might have just forgot, or didn't want to bring attention to it, but maaaaaybe it means that we may hear something about DA after MEA gets its share of time in the spotlight?

[myahele]

I wonder if the Titans/ Dwarves have their own type of "fade"

[FernRain]

Hello my fellow apocalypse BFers!

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BF = both Blanket Fort and boyfriend!

Just wanted to say hello. I haven't watched the interview with the lead writer, but I trust you've already extracted all the morsels of potentially new info .

 

Keep on being the jewel in the BSN desert .

[Donquijote and 59 others]

So it seems that Solas went to visit the well of sorrow after trespasser or so i've heard,maybe to met the woman of the well of sorrow?

[Donquijote and 59 others]

Someone on Tumblr did a gif comparison of the two scenes...

 

Source: http://smalllady.tum...st/141349684903

 

 

My mind is blown... What does this meeaann? 

It means that Mythal possessed Solas and he doesn't even know it.

[midnight tea]

It means that Mythal possessed Solas and he doesn't even know it.

 

... So by your logic Inquisitor is possessed by Solas.

[Donquijote and 59 others]

... So by your logic Inquisitor is possessed by Solas.

Eh? From the comparision i see similitudes between Solas and Flemeth animations only, not between the animations of the Inquisitor and Solas since the Inquisitor behave differently in Trespasser depend on player choice, gender and background.

[midnight tea]

Eh? From the comparision i see similitudes between Solas and Flemeth animations only, not between the animations of the Inquisitor and Solas since the Inquisitor behave differently in Trespasser depend on player choice, gender and background.

 

Not "eh" - you're 'deducing' that he's possessed just from their position in the scene, in this case: Solas in place of Mythal. It just so happens that Inquisitor in place of Solas, ergo: by your logic they're possessed too.

 

Yet you yourself have noted that the scene has played out differently. The position swap is largely (and vaguely) symbolic and isn't meant to be taken so literally.

[Addictress]

It means that Mythal possessed Solas and he doesn't even know it.

At first I thought they both knew what's going on and that they'd made an arrangement that benefited the both of them. But now I don't think so.

 

Solas motivation: "But the people... they need me."

Mythal motivation: "She was betrayed as I was betrayed, as the world was betrayed.... and I will be AVENGED."

Solas is fully his own self waking up and intent on restoring the world for the People.

Mythal is just a fragment of herself who has waited until the opportune time, when her vanguard - her 'champion' or Elvehn general or however you might call the original Fen'Harel, is also awake in the world?

Both of them are allied against the other Evanuris who are locked away and both intend to see them destroyed.

I think Solas may be briefly carrying whatever's left of Mythal and may transfer her to some other vessel or properly return her to wherever she may peacefully sleep or at least allow her to witness and participate in her vengeance as he deals with the remaining Evanuris. 

Solas had always planned to awake and unlock the orb. Even in the Kocari Wilds during DAO, Flemeth was waiting for Solas to wake up so that he could take down the veil and then execute whatever his 'plans' were for the remaining Evanuris. She must somehow play a part in those plans, otherwise why did she feel she needed to actively maintain her presence in the world - why did she need a young boy or woman to possess? If she knew Solas was about to take down the veil and her vengeance would come swiftly, she could have just maintained her Flemeth body a little longer, and then rest in peace shortly thereafter. Why did she still seek a younger body if she knew Solas' plans were about to begin?

 

"I knew that you would come."

 

At this point it seems they were not necessarily on the same page at all, then. It looks like Solas and Flemeth were not on the same page for a while. Solas had done all these other things of his own accord, apart from Mythal. Giving the orb to Corypheus, etc... it was not her call. At some point in the past, they diverged. We imagine Solas used to be a close vanguard of hers, an agent of Mythal's, from the time of Arlathan. Or is this just Looking Glass AU and not canon? Am I getting confused?

 

So why didn't Mythal seek out Solas sooner, or vice versa, if their motivations are rather in line as I described above? Both want the Evanuris dead. I don't imagine that the motivations we know Solas has conflicts with the motivations Mythal has, so why are they suddenly separated by some distance here, and Mythal must turn as if to face an unknowable and possibly dangerous variable as she turns away from the Eluvian? Obviously she at that moment has some plan in place and so does Solas. However, while Flemeth is cunning indeed, we know for a fact no one can match the Dread Wolf in cunning and trickery. He's best at Wicked Grace. He tricked both Andruil and Anaris in the story about his hunting the halla, tricked ALL the Forgotten Ones and Evanuris. It's safe to say that Flemeth, who is the most caring and righteous god and probably quite cunning in her own right, but not necessarily the most cunning, may be outwitted by Fen'Harel. In addition, there is some point in which they must disagree. Why didn't they ally earlier? Because there is something they disagree on - something we aren't really aware of yet. Maybe a decision he made in the past. Maybe the method by which he is going to do something, Mythal doesn't necessarily agree with. Something happened in the past to separate the two, which we don't know about yet. It wasn't enough to make them enemies per se, but it was enough to erode trust.

[Ellawynn]

At first I thought they both knew what's going on and that they'd made an arrangement that benefited the both of them. But now I don't think so.

 

Solas motivation: "But the people... they need me."

Mythal motivation: "She was betrayed as I was betrayed, as the world was betrayed.... and I will be AVENGED."

Solas is fully his own self waking up and intent on restoring the world for the People.

Mythal is just a fragment of herself who has waited until the opportune time, when her vanguard - her 'champion' or Elvehn general or however you might call the original Fen'Harel, is also awake in the world?

Both of them are allied against the other Evanuris who are locked away and both intend to see them destroyed.

I think Solas may be briefly carrying whatever's left of Mythal and may transfer her to some other vessel or properly return her to wherever she may peacefully sleep or at least allow her to witness and participate in her vengeance as he deals with the remaining Evanuris. 

Solas had always planned to awake and unlock the orb. Even in the Kocari Wilds during DAO, Flemeth was waiting for Solas to wake up so that he could take down the veil and then execute whatever his 'plans' were for the remaining Evanuris. She must somehow play a part in those plans, otherwise why did she feel she needed to actively maintain her presence in the world - why did she need a young boy or woman to possess? If she knew Solas was about the take down the veil and her vengeance would come swiftly, she could have just maintained her Flemeth body a little longer, and then rest in peace shortly thereafter. Why did she still seek a younger body if she knew Solas' plans were about to begin?

 

"I knew that you would come."

 

At this point it seems they were not necessarily on the same page at all, then. It looks like Solas and Flemeth were not on the same page for a while. Solas had done all these other things of his own accord, apart from Mythal. Giving the orb to Corypheus, etc... it was not her call. At some point in the past, they diverged. We imagine Solas used to be a close vanguard of hers, an agent of Mythal's, from the time of Arlathan. Or is this just Looking Glass AU and not cannon? Am I getting confused?

 

So why didn't Mythal seek out Solas sooner, or vice versa, if their motivations are rather in line as I described above? Both want the Evanuris dead. I don't imagine that the motivations we know Solas has conflicts with the motivations Mythal has, so why are they suddenly separated by some distance here, and Mythal must turn as if to face an unknowable and possibly dangerous variable as she turns away from the Eluvian? Obviously she at that moment has some plan in place and so does Solas. However, while Flemeth is cunning indeed, we know for a fact no one can match the Dread Wolf in cunning and trickery. He's best at Wicked Grace. He tricked both Andruil and Anaris in the story about his hunting the halla, tricked ALL the Forgotten Ones and Evanuris. It's safe to say that Flemeth, who is the most caring and righteous god and probably quite cunning in her own right, but not necessarily the most cunning, may be outwitted by Fen'Harel. In addition, there is some point in which they must disagree. Why didn't they ally earlier? Because there is something they disagree on - something we are really aware of yet. Maybe a decision he made in the past. Maybe the method by which he is going to do something, Mythal doesn't necessarily agree with. Something happened in the past to separate the two, which we don't know about yet. It wasn't enough to make them enemies per se, but it was enough to erode trust.

 

It hasn't been outright confirmed, but there's plenty of canon evidence that Fen'Harel was a subservient of some sort to Mythal. His statues in the entry to her temple, the codex in Trespasser about Fen'Harel as an attendant and guardian to her, Cole's comments about how "she" bid "him" to take a body. (Although I'm not convinced that last one refers to Mythal, because why would Solas be friends with someone who tried to enslave him?)

 

And just as I don't think Mythal is directly manipulating Solas, I don't think Solas is directly manipulating Mythal either. He didn't even know she was alive until the Temple, after all. As for why she didn't approach him, I don't know, especially since she's probably the one who woke him up in the first place. (Although... I can't quite remember, but hadn't Felassan been around for a few years prior to Masked Empire? That definitely predates the day Solas supposedly woke up.). I find it hard to believe she's planned everything all along, since Solas approaching her was the result of a random and unforeseeable string of events. Solas had to decide to try and fix the world, had to decide to give the Orb away, had to give it away to a unstable individual who would somehow survive the opening process and then use it for his own purposes, the Orb had to break or otherwise become unusable to Solas, and he would've had to know that Mythal was alive - after he had given the Orb away, natch, otherwise he'd just give it to her. Mythal would've needed to predict and depend on all of that in order to pull off this plan of hers - if Corypheus had simply died when the Orb opened, or Solas had successfully retrieved it, then she'd be dead in the water. And, y'know, both of those outcomes were more likely than what actually happened - Corypheus especially was an unpredictable wrench in the works, since he wasn't even running around until very, very recently, and his pretty rare ability to not-die is literally the only reason Solas' original plan didn't work. 

 

I can see Mythal planning on Solas waking up, regretting his decision, and trying to fix it. So maybe the reason for her staying away relates to that.